First Time Watching The Second Mother/Que Horas Ela Volta? (2015) Film Reaction & Review
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- This is my reaction and review for the film The Second Mother/Que Horas Ela Volta? directed by Anna Muylaert. This is a dope film that I didn't even plan to watch this week.
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Thanks for watching. Portuguese subtitles have been added.
This situation with housekeepers was still common until the 90s. With this class segregation for both sides. A real situation I know is that the housekeeper has agreed to work for a family in exchange for them raising her child as if it were theirs. She, 65, was still making the bed of her son who is already 30.
As before, I recommend you to watch "Central Station" (Central do Brasil).
Veja uma comédia Os farofeiros .
Veja "MEU NOME NÃO É JOHNY", filme brasileiro !!
TIM MAIA MOVIE, PLEASE.
@goonygoogles I'll explain the ice cream thing, it's that whoever is from the house eats the most expensive ice cream, it's imported and they buy cheap ice cream just for Val to eat. The owner of the house says that the maid is family, but Val, who works there for years, never ate the most expensive ice cream or sat at the table to eat with the family and the husband was giving the ice cream rich and calling the girl to sit at the table with the intention of staying with her. Val was surprised because she knew it was the most expensive ice cream he asked to get. It's what the woman always says when Val belongs to the family, but she doesn't eat expensive food. About the cups that Val bought, they are made of plastic, here it is like something for the poor, Val did not buy something inferior, we can see that it was a set, that for poor people in Brazil is luxury and expensive, but for rich people it is something inferior and poor, the woman pretended she liked it and said she was going to take it to the other house, which is where she doesn't receive guests. The hostess of the house whenever she says nice things to Val can always tell that she's just pretending to be nice. They're not even that rich, they're middle class, but they can't stand the poor, but pretend they do to keep them working.
And Val is already so conditioned to fit in that society that that bizarre scene happened, she bought a gift that was expensive for her, to give to the patões and it was her work instrument, she didn't think about buying it for her, alias if it was buy it for her maybe buy something inferior. Ah, can you see that Val and her daughter speak differently from the bosses? She has a northeastern accent, many years ago the northeastern people left the northeast of Brazil to the South and Southeast looking for a job, and they are always jobs considered inferior, that don't need a college: maid, doorman, driver, bricklayer. My mother was from the northeast, a maid and physically looked like this actress who played Val (who by the way is one of the best actresses in Brazil) I saw this movie and cried from beginning to end remembering my mother.
The critics thought this movie was an exaggeration about the brazilian housekeepers. It's not. Believe it or not, this is a REAL, the way it is presented.
I can't think of any movie that is more realistic than Second Mother.
@@catioroforasterodeloeste4790 I second that.
Sim, esse filme me deixa desconfortável pq eu enxergo minha mãe nele.
@@gabrielm.xavier1274 Espero que. no futuro, a única coisa que vc se identifique com esse filme seja o amor incondicional um pelo outro
Isso não é só aqui não, em todo lugar... E igual aq os br falam q o racismo "já ficou no passado" sendo q ele ainda está aq firme e forte
This movie talks directly about how the elite behavior in Brazil.
I don't know if you can tell the different accents (the maid and daughter have a northeast accent and the family has a São Paulo accent). There is a lot of xenophobia with people from northeast of Brazil.
In Brazil the best universities are the public ones (and there is a sense of pride of getting in one, like if you're paying a private one is because you didn't make it to the public one). They have way more prestige and reputation than the private ones.
In the past 20 years we begin to have a big change in public university admissions. A lot of affirmative actions too (racial, ethnicity, transgender, class, etc.)
The maid's daughter having the same opportunities in life than the boss son is unacceptable for the elite. And that represents Brazil more than soccer and samba hahahaha.
I went to public university trough affirmative action and I can tell you that some of my classmates were not happy about it. They believe some people don't belong there (they're not big fans of diverse thinking, some white rich people). I'm the first person of my entire family (including extended family) to graduate (my parents can't even write or read). That is a HUGE change for us. My parents have planned for me to finish elementary school, and then I finished high school, they were super proud. They never even imagined it was possible for me to get in university. Now I have one cousin that just got into the university too.
In the movie, Jessica don't understand what her mother is going trough. She has the audacity to think that she deserves to be treated equaly (to at least be treated with dignity). There is class, xenophobia, generation gap, sexism, and other social issues. And is specially a part of the enslaver mind from our past. Very passive-agressive humiliation.
About the brazilian movie industry - it's very complex to make a movie in our country. So you can have an idea: the most expensive movie ever made here costed about 20 million reais (That was about 5-6 million dollars, not kidding). That is less than some independent movies in US.
The majority of movies have to go trough government laws to happen (it's not for approval, but for the money). The biggest problem is not even making the movie, but the distribution. You can imagine that a national movie has no chance to compete with "The Avengers" for a exhibition room. One has way more money and will have way more audience than the other. That's why is so impressive that Bacurau was such a success, even with all the limitation on the budget (for marketing especially). Was a mouth to mouth thing.
This is the comment you all should read in order to understand what the movie is about.
Uma ótima explicação da ideia central do filme! Creio que seja difícil para estrangeiros entenderem a complexidade da situação do Brasil em que até a população branca pobre(como é o caso da Val) sofrem com uma elite escravocrata e reacionária. Parabéns pela análise e pela conquista da faculdade. Tempos melhores virão...
Realmente, esse é um filme que quanto mais contexto cultural se tem mais rico se torna, porque ele retrata nossa realidade em níveis bem profundos.
Parabéns por ter conseguido entrar na universidade! Eu também fui a primeira pessoa da minha família a me formar, e entrei por cota de escola pública!
something else that's interesting to address is the roots of the "servant" situation. them saying Val is like family and keeping her in the back room it's reminiscent to the slave quarters (senzala). especially having in mind that, when slavery was abolished, it wasn't unusual for white people in the elite to point themselves as godfather (apadrinhamento) to a black person and act and say as if it was family, giving them housing in exchange their labor (and by housing I mean, you guessed it ! a small room closer to the kitchen, such as Val's).
A parte em que ela usa o Inglês, pra falar com o marido é o reflexo de como saber Inglês é algo elitista para os brasileiros. As pessoas que dizem que nossos filmes e produções não são bons, são as milhares de Bárbaras que infelizmente temos por aqui.
Por isso eu amo quando um riquinho leva um susto em ve q eu sei inglês sendo do interior do ceara sem pagar cursinho chique kkkk
@@AlekiGGqual é a tradução do q ela falou? só entendi o final
@@girlianesantos8350 Disse, sarcasticamente: 'A filhazinha graciosa dela voltou'.
Brazilian’s title is “in What time is she back” which is one of the first lines of the movie delivered by Fabinho and later is brought up as something that Jessica would ask when I child. This is an interesting parallel between Val an Barbara since both had neglected their part in raising their own child in order to financially provide for them.
mas sabe que 'second mother' eu achei interessante tb. pq o filme todo você acha que Val é a second mother do fabinho, mas na verdade ela se torna a do neto no final
I think “When is she coming back?” is a better translation
na vdd é uma tradução meio "ao pé da letra" em inglês ficaria mais certo "When is she coming back?"
Val (Regina Casé) is a treasure of ours! Gotta love her.
I met her on a plane when I was a kid, my mom made me take a picture with her.
@@rafaelalodio5116 Huahua! Well, at least it serves you as a good story, as we say, right? Your mom had a point, after all.
@@DimeCrisBag mano pq cês tao conversando em inglês
@@gabrieltourinho2477 porque a gente está no canal de um cara AMERICANO. No canal dele, obviamente, ele fala inglês. Imagino que se a maioria do público dele for de americanos como ele, eles devem entender na maioria inglês só também. Seria como você entrar na casa dum cara e conversar com um amigo seu numa língua, ou um assunto, que ele não está entendendo nada. É só por respeito. O FILME é brasileiro, mas o CANAL, o DONO do canal, e a maior parte do público aqui, provavelmente, não. Uma forma de respeito, só, mesmo.
Regina Casé É FODA. Os vira lata chora.
In Brazil, when the Fabinho´s tipe get old, they do exactly the same as there fathers. Its a never ending circle.
Auto da compadecida merecia uma reação, disparado o melhor filme.
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Great reaction! you are seeing very good movies man! and i like yous opinions after. about the story, the context is: in brazil, in the beginning of 21 century, after many decades we had a governmet that give a minimun of chance to poor people, but between the end of slavery (19th century) and 21 century, many workers got used to accepting everything, especially maids, but with this new social projects 20 years ago, the daughter had the chance to be part of a generation that was born poor but managed to get to university, it was one of the first generations...recently there was a soft coup in brazil, to take away the governments that brought this chance to the poorest...and during many demonstrations against the coup, posters appeared with the phrase: '' the big house goes crazy when the maid's daughter arrives at the university '' or a young black girl with a poster, 'i am doctor , daugther of a maid'. all of this is very recent
Thanks for this context. There are issues presented in the film that become more clear with that information.
@@GoonyGoogles that's the best comment about this movie! The so called "elite" portrayed in the movie is actually something called "upper mid-class", that has some money, but is closest to the maid than to a CEO like Jeff Bezzos or Elon Musk. They were really annoyed when a government gave the lower classes a chance to have a better life, and see the difference between then and the poor.
@@BrunoMilek THIS
When I first watched this movie, I cried like a baby when Val gets in the pool
Dude, that scene makes me cry just thinking about it.
Eu SEMPRE choro
"I'm sure she saved a lot of money living in that house", not how it works around here my friend, many consider that the "privilege" of living in a good house and eating good food is more than enough of a payment, and then pay something like 1000 USD / year as a "bonus". I've seen this happening quite often.
Plus, she probably sent a big chunk of her money to raise Jessica.
It’s cute how Americans think domestic workers make tons of money here in Brazil, isn’t it? hahaha
The realities are SO diverse. The MIDDLE class in Brazil doesn’t think they should clean their own homes, do their own laundry or dishes, or even cook their own food.
The reality is domestic workers make 1,5 minimum wage, 2 max., and send 80% of that for their children’s education back home.
It’s ridiculous.
@@raquelmarcalsantos it really is, i was thinking the exact same thing
Dude, I'm genuinely impressed at how fast you get it, as opposed to Brazilians not getting it at all. You're intelligent as fuck, man, and I thank you very much for taking a shot at understanding our culture.
You just witnessed with that movie an average São Paulo middle-class household. It's same old, same old; women come from the northeast to work as maids in those houses, oftentimes leaving their families behind.
um dos motivos é a cultura de odiar o que é nosso que é implantada na sociedade.
tem gente que nem quis ver o filme por ser brasileiro.
Love this movie, the way it talks about the remainings of slavery in brazil, the house worker who is 'practically family', and the xenophobic relation of the south and the north.
Que Horas Ela Volta is such an accurate portrayal of the social interactions between the elite, middle class and and lower classes in Brazil, man! And Regina Casé (Val)? National treasure, I swear to god
Não sei escrever em inglês, mas o canal Gonny me trás um sentimento de empatia com nossa cultura. Ver um "gringo" tentando compreender nossa realidade, as mazelas sócias é muito gratificante, é comun a gente olhar para cultura americana como referência, como sonho a ser alcançado, ver ele olhar pro outro lado é muito legal cara.
It's nice that you mentioned Parasite at the beginning cos I feel like this movie has a lot of similar undertones to it regarding class structure but also the deconstruction of the "good and well intended bosses"
This movie was shot in 2015. In 2016 we impeached the president for no reason. basically, because the daughters of the housekeepers were getting into college and the upperclass wouldn't have that.
Amo esse filme, tem tantos detalhes para serem percebidos. O Fabinho , por exemplo, vai pra Austrália após não ter conseguido passar no vestibular, e a Jéssica? A gente consegue ver que ela só teria um destino possível se não passase, ela seria no máximo empregada e teria que negligenciar o próprio filho para poder sustentar-lo assim como sua mãe ( mulher que ela tinha tantas críticas por ter lhe deixado) fez. O ciclo se repetiria, o que não aconteceu. Essa história tem tantas nuances delicadas que fazem com que esse filme seja tão especial. É uma trama que abre a nossa mente de uma forma surreal.
This movie depicts one of the reasons why the upper classes in Brazil hate and overthrew the Worker's Party from government. For the first time in our history, such story was possible and believable: the maid's child is going to the university, while the boss's is not.
I appreciate that so many of you explained this context to me. It made the movie mean so much more.
Awesome reaction man ,as always! I recommend the movie "Central Station".
"central station" is a master piece.
I liked the fact you mentioned how impressive is Regina Casé's acting skills. We got to remember she's playing the role of a woman who comes from the northeast region, so she basically had to change her accent, idiomatic expressions, tone of voice, etc. She's also being cheered for her work in the main brazilian soap opera live in prime time in which she also plays a northeastern woman whose plot is mainly related to motherhood, too. I'm always fascinated by how natural she acts no matter what role she is playing.
@goonygoogles Vou explicar o lance do sorvete, é que quem é da casa come o sorvete mais caro, é importado e eles compram um sorvete barato só para a Val comer. A dona da casa diz que a empregada é da família, mas a Val que trabalha ali a anos, nunca comeu o sorvete mais caro ou se sentou a mesa para comer com a família e o marido estava dando o sorvete de rico e chamando a menina para sentar na mesa já com intenção de ficar com ela. A Val estranhou pq sabia que era o sorvete mais caro que ele pediu pra pegar. É aquilo que a mulher repete sempre q a val é da familia, mas a comida cara ela não come. Sobre as xicaras que a Val comprou, são de plástico, aqui é como coisa de pobre, a Val não comprou algo inferior, podemos ver que foi um conjunto, aquilo para pessoas pobres no Brasil é luxo e caro, mas para pessoas ricas é coisa inferior e pobre, a mulher fingiu que gostou e disse que ia levar para a outra casa, que é onde ela nao recebe convidados. A dona da casa sempre que fala coisas boas para a Val sempre dá para perceber que ela só está fingindo que é legal. Eles nem são tão ricos, são de classe média, mas não suporta os pobres, mas finge que sim para manter eles trabalhando.
E a Val já está tão condicionada a se encaixar naquela sociedade que aconteceu aquela cena bizarra, ela comprar uma presente que pra ela foi caro, para dar aos patões e era instrumento de trabalho dela, ela não pensou em comprar para ela, alias se fosse comprar pra ela talvez compraria algo inferior. Ah consegue perceber que a Val e a filha fala diferente dos patrões? Ela tem sotaque nordestino, a muitos anos os nordestinos saíram do nordeste do Brasil para o Sul e Sudeste atrás de emprego, e são sempre empregos assim considerados inferiores, que não precisa de faculdade: de empregada, porteiro, motorista, pedreiro. Minha mãe era nordestina, empregada e parecia fisicamente com essa atriz que fez a Val (que por sinal é uma das melhores atrizes do Brasil) eu vi esse filme e chorei do inicio ao fim lembrando da minha mãe. A
I like you not only because you react from brazilian movies and songs, but you have amazing insights and, oddly or not, can relate to our culture
Maybe because both countries have history of slavery?
@@FreeToBe_Me Unfortunately that makes sense
Every single Brazilian person that says shit about our movie industry are just blind with Hollywood perspective. I’m a actress, already worked with Regina Case (Val), and I can say for sure, here, we make the most amazing, cultural, intense, human films in the whole world. We don’t share any story, we share perspectives that change and demonstrate how life is over here. I spend my afternoon watching yours reactions and dude, you are ❤️🔥
Esse filme é perfeito, quase não tem trilha sonora, então todas as cenas de silêncio falam mais alto com o telespectador...
This film is perfect, it has almost no soundtrack, so all the scenes of silence speak louder to the viewer ...
A música assim que começa os créditos é tão gostosa. Eu vi no cinema e quando o filme acabou eu estava em prantos quase de tanto chorar. Aí a música ajudou a me recompor hehehe
The way the family treats Val, not at "odds way" tells a lot about how the class and racial structure was formed in Brazil since the slavery times. Brazil had a history of "mixing races" after the slavery's abolition so the population got whiter with time, which with the type of relationship the female slaves had with the white families formed some type of "veiled racism". The way the movie emphasizes how Val is "family" for them but she is never treated as such shows exactly how class and racial issues are treated here for a lot of the population. It's no surprise so many people refuse to believe there's racism in Brazil.
Everything in this movie happens for a reason. Every scene, every shot, every dialogue. It is full of layers.
This movie speaks a lot of Brazilian reality and how the country changed during PT governments (the poor people going to college, for example). It also helps to understand why we had a coup in Brazil in 2016.
This movie made me cry when I watched in 2015, in a theater. And now, watching just a few clips of it, it made me cry again. It's unbelievable how good this movie describes Brazilian society!
Que bom que gostou. Esse filme representa muita gente no Brasil
I had an aunt who worked cleaning houses every other day and worked for us, and even though she was present on family gatherings, when she was on her "work mode" she wouldn't sit on the big table, she would eat in a tiny table we had on the kitchen. Even asking her to eat on the big table, she sorta understood that as unprofessional, or that someone of her "rank" wouldn't eat on the big table.
Anna Muylaert, the director of this film is amazing. Besides this one, Durval Records and Don't Call Me Son are my favorites. It's also interesting to see that motherhood is a recurring theme in most of her work.
I really love this movie! It shows class struggles without even needing any expository dialogues or super obvious scenes. You can just FEEL the discomfort caused by Jessica doing certain things she is "not supposed to" - to a point where we as spectators actually get bothered by her actions too when, thinking about it, she is actually just doing her thing and not pretending she is less than anyone in that house.
Btw: In Brazil the common age to college entrance exams is 17/18, so you got it right.
About Carandiru: I think it falls in the same formula as movies you've already seen tbh, so I don't even know if I would recomend it, since - and that's entirely my opinion - City of God is pretty much the best thing you're going to see in that whole "urban violence in Brazil" kind of movie.
If you're interested in more brazilian movies I would recommend Aquarius, it's a movie about real state speculation issues - I swear it's not boring - by Kleber Mendonça Filho (Bacurau's director).
E interessante ver como do mesmo jeito que a Val não vê a Jéssica como filha dela no começo a Jéssica também não vê a Val como mãe e isso faz com que ambas sofram absurdamente elas foram sequestradas uma da outra e não se dão conta... eu vivi isso com minha mãe, sei exatamente como é se sentir um estranho com a pessoa que deveria ser tudo pra você.
- Curto demais as suas reações aos filmes, muito sensato e inteligente...Me identifico bastante. Valeu!!!
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Eu simplesmente adoro como ele sempre consegue interpretar tão bem e rapidamente essas obras brasileiras... 😁🥰
(I just love how he can always interpret these Brazilian works so quickly and well...)
é foda que mesmo com legenda, ele não entende o tom que a personagem Bárbara fala. Ele entendeu de modo geral, claro. Mas o tom que ela usa é que é bagulho. Tipo, naquela cena na mesa, é normal pra gente aqui no Brasil perguntar um para o outro sobre faculdade, trabalho e blá blá, pra qualquer pessoa, sendo pessoa próxima ou não, porém o tom e comentários que ela usa é que é foda. Não sei se ele captou isso. Mas pode ser que sim e eu que não entendi ele pq ele fala inglês e eu nem ativei a legenda kkkkkk..nao sabia que tinha, agora que vi nos comentários fixados que tinha.
Ele não entendeu pq nos EUA não existe isso, ate eu tive dificuldade de entender esse filme, não sabia quem era a Val, se era parente, amiga, se tava vivendo de favor... eu não entendi foi é nada desse filme, ate ver a reação no canal pewee explicando sobre o filme... A realidade no brasil é cruel, e a mulher era uma diarista q parecia mais q ela morava na casa, isso o gringo nunca vai entender... pq é bizarro de um nivel q só acontece no brasil
@@sansiomohammed2285 essa situco é tão errada ué te configuração de muitos apartamentos tem o famoso quarto da empregada, q é exatamente onde Val mora, e acho q isso dá meninos querer fazer arquitetura soa até com um critica a espacialidade do apartamento
@@arizepinheiro5603 sei la, so sei q eu e milhares de pessoas pelo o mundo nao entendeu foi é porra nenhuma desse filme. Eu nao gostei, achei um filme lento e sem direcao, mais é pq eu nao tinha intendido q ela era empregada
I think that you will really like watch a movie: "The man who copied". "O homem que copiava" in portuguese. It's wonderful
One of my favourites! I’ve watched over 30 times and still know many dialogues by heart...
the message of this film: slavery disguised as equality. the film addresses veiled prejudice. class struggle . this film has a message similar to the movie the help (viola davis, octavia spencer). the two films are similar.
i'm so glad you are watching these brazilian movies, you have the best reactions and I really like how you absorb their messages
Esse filme é o retrato do Brasil!
Só de pensar que minha mãe já foi "uma Val" me dá raiva.
Tô impressionada com a sua compreensão com as questões que o filme aborda.
love how you get it all so right! "even without subtitles i would understand" awesome. much love
This film is incredible. The cast is full of wonderful actors. The actor who plays Dr. Carlos is called Lourenço Mutarelli, he is one of the greatest comic artists in the country, if not the greatest. He is also a writer. There is a lot about Brazil to know and this film is an excellent gateway.
I love your videos, man. It's really cool how you approach our culture.
Eu não consigo nem ver um trecho do filme num react sem chorar. Sou mais uma Jessica, filha de mais uma Val. Filme necessário!
Gostei da sua análise, GG
Greettings from Brazil, man. You really should review El Secreto de Sus Ojos (2009). It's from Argentina and it's a gem for sure!
That was a tough film. Especially since it’s based on a true story
Loving that reactors from another countries are giving our national cinema some chance 😊
Hey, Goony, a thing that I don't know if you know about Brazil that may help you get more of the gist of the movie: Val and her daughter are from the northest region of the country, wich is treated with prejudice by the richest part of the country (mainly south and southeast) where Val's bosses live. That regional difference is indicated by their respective accents.
Ah, the actress that brilliant interprets Val is called Regina Casé. She is a very well-known actress here.
And, if I may, I would like to recommend to you the 2006 movie "The Year My Parents Went on Vacation". It is one of many movies that bring to the screen the years of military dictatorship in Brazil, adressing themes as the persecution of any left wing actvists and how families were disrupted by the regime.
Hey @GoonyGoogles I'm Brazilian but I've been living here in Australia for 4 years and is kind of funny that the first that I've heard Racionais MC's was after watching your react. Peace out ✌️
There's another behavior very common of class A and B in Brazil that upsets me a lot. They use to bring the babysisters to casual places to display them, to show that they can afford a life style. There's really a social structure behind it.
This movie is the history of my grandma. Regina Casé was perfect!
the film portrays the lives of most Brazilian single mothers. I'm a jessica and I lived my childhood with my mother in a house where she worked, they gave me gifts, took me to the cinema and deducted from my mother's salary everything they bought at the cinema. Today, at 21, 7 years have passed since I left my city to study and work to give my mother the best.
Esse filme me desmonta, minha mãe já passou por muitas situações parecidas sendo empregada doméstica, e eu presenciava quando ela não tinha com quem me deixar e me levava na casa dos patrões.
I love this movie. It is so kind in a strange way, with this compliments like saying "Mom" in the end and etc.
You have literally the best reviews I've seen. Such accurate insights.
It’s great to watch your reaction to Brazilian movies. Thank you for the videos!
I loved this video. This is one of my favorite movies of all time.
One thing that might not be clear to someone who watches from a different country is that this structure here is very common and extremely accepted. Val being more lovingly to Fabinho is something that shows that they are part of the family without being part of anything at the same time.
I heard so many stories about little kids who behaved differently with their parents than with the in house keepers. The elite accepted this and they talk freely about this structure. They are proud to say “my cleaner is like a member of the family.”
I have really enjoyed your reflections. You do something interesting: you try to understand different ideas that arise throughout the film.
My girlfriend loves this film, because it discusses very deep structures in Brazil.It is not explicit in the film, but the fact that Val is living at "work", that is, at the employers' house, is something common, reminiscent of slavery. It was not just the masters who owned many of the enslaved black people who had slaves, in Brazilian slavery (until 1988) it was common for any white person to have one or two slaves working at home. Black women generally took care of the children of their "ladies", including being "wet nurses", that is, they gave their own milk to the children of their enslavers.
with the end of slavery, white people who had money often had a worker, usually black, living and serving them (as you rightly put it, in a servile regime, but which at first was not very different from the conditions of slavery).
When slavery finally ended, working conditions analogous to slavery did not disappear, they lasted, and some jobs just shifted to jobs like the one you saw Val being subjected to.
Domestic work to this day is subject to conditions like the one in the film, it is something established and common. There are job ads like hers, in which they demand that the worker does not leave work without express authorization; many of these women are black.
In addition to the film discussing the existing relationships and their contradictions, which you knew how to capitate in a sensitive way, it discusses a certain change that has taken place in Brazil in the last decades and that has been going backwards since 2016.
Since the 2000s, in Brazil, the poorest have been gaining economic power and mechanisms like the national entrance exam was created (ENEM), making many poor people have real chances of studying at a prestigious university (which in Brazil are public) . So the film is also about different generals and a slow social change that started to be noticed. This change is exemplified, not only by the conduct of the young daughter, but above all by having won admission to the university. This fact helped Val, in addition to the departure of the boss's son, to realize the possibility of breaking the barriers that seemed insurmountable.
I really enjoyed your notes and reflec
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Hey mate, i just watched your react. Some things in brazil are hard to understand. Actually Val didnt save a lot of money, probably she was working like most poor people, for very few money. What happened is that class was forced to always take orders to survive, with no rights, including work rights. After 2002 the poor people in brazil started to get some money with assistance policies, the economy worked better, and they started to recognize rights. Vals daughter represent her class in ascension, who doesnt accept the slave heritage. Thanks for the video mate, i really apreciatte your reacts.
Instant like. One of the best brazilian movies I have ever seen.
"Bingo: The King Of The Mornings" it's a good movie too, highly recommend
That's a very good movie, and so was your analysis. There are many subtle aspects which are clearer to native brazilians and I think your views complement those pretty well
We don't get all the huge variety of ice cream you have over at US. It's incredibly expensive here, so the national brands are very basic, not at all like Ben & Jerry's or Häagen Daazs.
About the "SATs" here, the best universities here are the public ones, and it's increasingly difficult to get in. She gets in a top school, in spite of not having had access to the best education, like he had.
This movie makes me cry like a little kid. My whole childhood right there. Hits too much home to me
Jutsu de invocação BR!
Amazing reaction and review as always!
bro, keep it coming! love to see you reacting to those gems!
Me inscrevendo agora. Já havia visto outros vídeos do canal, mas esse e o de Bacurau ganharam meu coração.
Olha..que bela crítica dele. O cara entende de cinema. Sacou o filme todo.
Dude, first of all, your channel is incredible good, aside for the reacts, your analysis are so good, you really enjoy and feel the movies and songs. About that movie, im son of northeasts people leaving in São Paulo, i think that this movie is the best way of understanding the social dynamics here, people use to say that racism and xenophobia dont exist here, but its just hide behind the masks. Great review, dude, hugs from Santo André - São Paulo.
Dude thanks for appreciate and understand our movies !they're telling our history,our lives !!thanx !!
In Brazil we have some perfect movies, some of them are: A febre do rato (my favorite), Aquarius (with Sonia Braga, same director of Bacurau), O som ao redor (also by Kleber Mendonça Filho, director of Bacurau), Pixote (super heavy movie, by Hector Babenco, one of the best director we ever had, director of Carandiru), Chão (by Camila Freitas, tells how work the MST, a movement of people who don't have a place to live, so they appropriate of lands legally, some politicians support their act and some don't, also is a theme that envolves all kind of prejudice agaist the families who are MST and their work), Espero tua (re)volta (documentary, tells about the school occupation movements, organized by high school students. is marvelous, they paralyzed the whole country in protest, all so young people, brings hope), Auto da compadecida (classic brazilian movie, so so so funny, all Brazilians have watched it at least twice), Abril despedaçado (by Walter Salles, other director very important to us, director of Central do Brasil), A vida invisível (it competed with Bacurau when we chose the film for the oscars, in the end, none of them was chose for the category Best International Feature Film, but they were there to selection. A vida invisível was producced by Rodrigo Teixeira, our most successful producer, he producced Frances Ha, Call me by your name, The witch, The lighthouse, Ad Astra, and others), Eles não usam Black-tie (it's about union strikes, with Fernanda Montenegro, actress in Central do Brasil, btw, she is our best actress, very respected in the country)... Anyway... if you want more, I can give you more.
About Que horas ela volta?, in Brazil, we tend to compare the maid's conditions to slave labor. they live with their bosses, often work without rest, without vacations and poor working conditions. We used to say that the senzala (where slaves lived during the colonization) is now the maid's little room.
I honestly, recognize how good an actress Regina Casé is.... But honestly, to know that she has already said that she 'hates poor people and people from the favela' made any charm I had for it to dissipate.
But this is an incredible film, there is no denying it. Great video, man. Thanks.
This movie is very powerful! It says so much about our reality and how people with more money and better opputunities see the poor.
We actually have a lot of good, great quality films in Brazil. I am really glad you're enjoying them. I have been showing your videos to a few friends of mine and they also liked all the videos.
22:23 Hum, actually, Val _did_ get that Jessica was the rat. The language, as you pointed out, is very clear, but for "politeness" (and there is whole lot to unpack here) sake, Barbara wouldn't say "Jessica", she would say "a rat", and Val did what was expected of her, accepted quietly and agreed with her. This is behaviour of appeasing a dominant person.
I grew up with a mother just like Barbara, so believe me, they were both on the same page. Also, I'm brazilian, so it's clearer to me some subtexts that might not translate well.
I loved your take on it. I find that this is a very hard movie to watch, because it's really not fiction at all.
ESSE FILME É maravilhoso! Chorei demais e gostei tanto como ele é diferente...
Lebanese movie suggestions: Capharnaum and Where do we go Now?
I don't think carandiru is the best movie for you to watch, it is great because we know the history and specially for São Paulo residents and Racionais mc's fans is a really good movie, but I think that an foregneir wouldn't really like. I recommend Central Station, not only because it is beautiful, but specially for Fernanda Montenegro acting.
GG, the thing they say about the way Jessica talks it's because Jessica and Val are from northeast and people from other regions from Brazil make fun of the northeastern accent
That's not only xenophobia. That represents the structure of colonial times, which is still very present in Brazilian society, with Barbara's family being "slave owners" whose kids used to be raised by black/native Brazilian wet nurses. Val is subservient and "grateful" for whatever she gets from them. One the other hand, her daughter, Jessica, has grown up in the 2000s, when Brazil was changing and creating oportunities for lower classes. That allowed them to get to public universities (the best ones here), which had almost exclusively upper class students. In 2012, the Brazilian government approved a law stablishing quotas in public colleges and later, in 2014, for public service. The movie sort of shows that transition.
You nailed it! I loved your review and it made me look at this movie (which I love) from a different perspective. Keep it up!
Gostei muito desse filme. Acho que daí que surgiu a Personagem Lurdes (Amor de mãe), parece bastante!
Eu tive as mesmas reações de apesar de detestar a forma que Jéssica trata a Val, ficar feliz por elas no fim!
I consider The Second Mother one of the most important brazilian films of the last decade. Why? Because that theme is simply underspoken in our society and even less common in our films. It´s a crude picture of what really happens down here.
Bárbara is acting with a cordial discrimination, she hides evil with attitudes that are supposedly well intentioned, but which always have a form of discrimination, whether explicit or implicit.
Thank you for giving a chance for our culture! This movie is amazing! Love your review! I'm going to subscribe 💖
You should watch A Dog’s Will (O Auto da Compadecida) it has very fast paced dialogue, but the criticism of the way that the brazilian society treats poor people is *chef’s kiss*, it’s also very funny
the rat in the pool was val, she had it cleaned because val got in the pool
The part of Australia is brilliant, in Brazil there's a lot of that about the bourgeoisie, they get an exchange with everything paid or a good job in the family business for by defeat, and they love to talk about meritocracy
I felt like I was watching the movie with you lol, so funny!! Thanks for the video :)
Parabéns por ter uma percepção inteligente dos filmes brasileiros, apesar do regionalismo da linguagem você consegue ter a visão sobre desigualdade e questões raciais
This is a very nice review. I saw this film right as it came out, in the cinema (I'm brazilian). Recently I couldn't help but to compare it to _Parasite_ . It just didn't get the same attention, but in many ways I do think it might be better, although we have to consider the lower budget. The thing I like the most in this film is _definitely_ the fact that it doesn't force itself on you. So much so that to many people the message didn't even come across. It doesn't show the division of classes and racism as blatant and violent. Instead, it shows the complexity in which it manifests in our own homes. Many brazilian families have that dynamic with their house employees, it's truthful to reality and I love that they included the _kindness_ of the family in relation to Val... The relationship she has with the boy, the "you're almost part of the family" thing. I'm not rich like them but my parents had people working for us all my life and let me tell you... It hits so close to home. I've had so many terrible behaviours myself. I remember having a conversation with my brother about this filme though, and he didn't see the point of it at all. He also didn't see any problems conveyed on screen. I still think of it sometimes.
You get so many things that are from a totally different culture. Real smart dude.
this film speaks a lot about the class structure in Brazil. The mother represents the lower and dominant class, which for centuries lived in a kind of slave labor, with no opportunity for growth, study or enrichment. While the daughter represents the recent rise that this class had, with government programs that gave assistance, housing and access to universities for the poorest. Jessica doesn't accept living in Val's old world. She knows she's poorer than her mother's employers, but she doesn't accept being treated as different.
I love your videos, whenever I see them I have a lot to rethink about the movies, in particular, "The Second Mother" is an amazing movie, I loved your video about Bacurau too, if you liked "The Second Mother"/ "A que horas ela volta" for the social context, "Bacurau" for the tension and "Carandiru" for the criticism of society, watch: "Eles não usam Black-Tie/"They don't wear Black-Tie", you'll love this movie or at least adore it, it takes place in the military dictatorship, talks about: family, a strike as a form of revolt, tension to know what will happen and an Oscar-worthy performance by "Fernanda Montenegro"!
PS: I don't know if they brought "Eles não usam Black-Tie" to "They don't wear Black-Tie"
thanks, man. and greattings from brazil. beautifull (and realistic) movie and i love your view and opinions about it. fun fact for you: in brazil the movie is called somethin on the lines of "what time does she comes back?", meaning the question that youngerJessica asks her caretaker about Val, since Val is far away not taking care of her. I think in the begining of the movie Val receives a call from her homeland and the person on the phone says that Jessica keeps asking it. preety deep
I LOVE this movie ❤
It was a really great reaction, and it was awesome to see that u catched up on some veryyyy small details of the characters and their relationships!
If I could, I would like to recommend the movie "o auto da compadecida" it is probably a little different from the other brazilian movies u saw until now, but it's seriously a gem!!!!! keep up the good work!!
Carandiru is very worth it, the movie is só good, I hope that one day u can still have this experience and the second mother made me cry a lot, it's an incredible story!