Thanks for the video with all the information on the system. I bought a base system back in the 90’s and a few games. Later in the 90’s when the company went out of business a local game store was selling base turbo graft systems for $5 and games for $1. I bought 4 used base systems and a lot of the games. NEC Technologies was 20 minutes from where I lived and I used to go there and play games before they were released in return for filling out a survey. One time they even gave me my favorite game for the system, Neutopia II. I still have the game factory sealed in the box. They also gave me some promotional material which consisted of 5 by 7 inch cards which had the artwork of the box of the game and a written description of the game. I still have these cards too. It is interesting to find out now that some of the games are worth over $100 now because I remember seeing those turbo graft game cards for $1 in used game bins at small game stores in the 90’s. Back then you could also buy a converter that attached to the Turbo Grafx that played PC Engine games. I bought a lot of those too for $1 back in the late 90’s at small game stores with used games...
Turbografx 16 and it’s games are very expensive because everyone that has a Turbografx wants a complete set. I have a Turbografx 16 but will not buy every single game that was ever made for it. That doesn’t mean that the games will continuously go up in value exponentially forever. That is not how collectible markets work. Eventually, there will be a time when people will lose interest in it and will not be paying $100s on its games. Awhile ago a payed several hundred dollars per several games just because I thought they were cool and I wanted them. I think I want to buy the Turbo Drive card because you can get every single game ever released on the system. That is really awesome!
I miss my Turbo Grafix so much , I had the Express and I think I played it more than any of my systems as a kid, my uncle owned a pawn shop and was just sitting in the overstock room and said I can have it , so good
@@SuperNicktendo Ninja Spirit uhhhhgain , I m too be sure to most definitely get a PC Engine converter to TG-16 too play STREET FIGHTER 2 and Strip Fighter as well with Japanese version of SPLATTER HOUSE 🧟♂️😱👊🧟♀️
The TurboGrafix is way too expensive to collect for. I just use the Wii U. The Wii U Virtual Console has a ton of TG-16 games on it, and is my go-to TG player. It has a lot of really great games. Especially shooters!
Nefarious Wes - During 1989, I wanted/purchased a Turbografx 16 only, because my brother had an NES and my cousins had a Sega Genesis, so I wanted to be different and got TG16 instead. Bonk and Keith Courage were memorable and fun, but Bloody Wolf stoke the show for me. I don’t remember when, but I did sell the system to get new games and next gen systems, but I managed to buy back many of my TG16 games, system, and associated hardware over the years on eBay.
Although I gave you a thumbs up! No other system or emulator has better grapfx or sound and game play then the original hardware or Turbografx-16 just ordered one in the mail used at $192.00🤑 Ready to get them awsome Games now. I also had a Turbografx-16 before in 1992 sold it BIG MISTAKE 🙏☯️😎
“Not a lot of legal options” boy did that line crack me up. TG16 can literally be played on a 3DS and it emulates it well. Plus, like, a toaster can play these games as well.
This was fantastic Nick. How can the CD add-on result in a dead system? Does it overload and burst the caps or something? The overall trends seem to point to a... CRASH!!! Haha ok not really but not nearly keeping the exponential rates like they had in the last decade. I’d be hesitant to collect for a system that is subject to so many problems and system failures. Emulation is the savior!
Should have gone into more detail about the addon. Blown caps and a lot of moving parts means that you don't see a lot of those around. The cd unit itself comes out of the addon for some reason. Very early cd system that had a lot of flaws. As pricing goes : they're leveling off and I think you'll see that they either don't rise at all or the rare games will stay in a private collection somewhere and the system will be just a distant memory.
As much as I'd love to own even a single Turbografx-related thing, I can't see myself starting to collect for it at this stage in the game. It's unfortunate, but I'll live! Thanks for a very informative video!
You were kind of right with your comments of common turbografx issues. I repair/mod these systems so I can inform. US Turbografx systems do NOT suffer from Bad capacitors. In fact, they are very reliable(other than the built in RF jacks). Here is a list of the systems that do NOT suffer from Bad capacitors. US TurboGrafx, jp pc engine, jp coregrafx 1&2, jp pce shuttle, jp Duo-r and rx, and jp super grafx. Here is a list of all the turbo grafx and PC engine variations that do suffer from Bad capacitors. Duo systems(both us and jp. Black case), turbo Express / PC engine GT portable, gray super CD-ROM 2 CD drive, PC engine LT, white PC engine CD ROM 2 drive and some black tg-16 CD-ROM drives. All of these systems can end up being very reliable once the capacitors and other standard maintenance is done.
Thanks a lot for that information. I figured since I had to have my turbo express recapped (the sound still doesn't work) that having a recapped turbo anything would be ideal.
@@SuperNicktendo the sound still doesn't work after a recap? Who did the work? There's probably bad traces caused by old cap damage. That's something I can repair for you if you'd like to get it working correctly.
In about 1996 my mom bought a new tg16 system from a rental store they never used for $25 because they were clearing out all their stock to do with that particular system and I was lucky enough to get one that had never been used and they had all the best games for $3 devil's/alien crush splatterhouse,ninja spirit,bloody wolf,neutooia,bonk, legendary axe,military madness the list goes on and the games were totally complete with the cardboard box the CD style case went in.
The TG-16 is such a nightmare to collect for. Absolutely enjoyed the support the Nintendo eshop put out for it--way more worth the money and effort. Also, I snickered when you mentioned the low level games not cracking the $20 spot because it's like yeah...don't come to OUR neck of the woods--these people around here slap $30 on Keith Courage and mouth off when you question them... I'd love for Hudson to just say to hell with it and put out a TG-16 Classic, fully packed with all the games. LOL
Liked the video. Subbed after watching. Commenting because you asked. I’d consider collecting TG16 only because it was the unicorn growing up and it’s got only 138 games. I look forward to watching more content just like this from you.
Good video! I have recently bought a Duo-r that was recapped, RGB and region modded from Japan. I picked up 10 x Turbografx 16 boxed games, and a couple of PC Engine games (Street Fighter Championship Edition and Operation Wolf). I also picked up the arcade Hucard to play to Neo Geo ports down the line. It's a great system, and one that I had always wanted for the last 30 years! I just wish I had picked it up years ago, as prices do seem to be rising. The Japanese PC engine equivalents though are quite a bit cheaper than the Turbografx 16 games! :)
Great video man, so much information. I have never owned a TG16. I played it at my friends house growing up, but that was the only time. I wasn't really introduced to it again till much later in life. Mostly being because it was expensive so a lot of kids parents couldn't afford it and just bought a SNES or Sega at the time. There is no way I can afford to collect for it now, but do enjoy the games via my SNES Classic system, which a friend modded for me
yeah you have to boy some special adaptor that will accept a micro SD card and than you can add a ton of stuff. I have all the NES, SNES, N64, GB, GBC, GBA, Master system, Sega, 32x, and a few playstation 1 games
Great video just gained a sub. I remember when I used to pickup TG16 lots on ebay back in 2004 that would give you a full working system and a few games for $30. I am glad I picked up my systems back then but I regret not getting a pc engine or core grafx because the TG16 is just a bulky mess for my current setup and would have preferred those. Anyways look forward to the next vid!
Thanks for sticking around! I look forward to bringing more content. I also have a series where I review a game from my collection that the audience chooses. That will be the next video!
Glad I got my turbo Grafx and CD back in the 90's when they were cheap. My library and hardware has expanded since. I would eventually get an express and super Grafx along with the everdrive preloaded with all hucard roms and some extras. Also got an arcade card for my turbo cd which allows me to play all 3 CD turbo formats.
I can never collect for the turbo Graphics at the time because I spent all my money on Sega Genesis stuff The Grey video that's crazy how much money people will pay for some of these games I better just emulate some of them if I can't afford them I think everybody should at least enjoy a game no need to pay that kind of money for game just enjoy it and I don't understand why somebody would dislike this video this is a very good quality video good job you should deserve more
@@SuperNicktendo yeah I wouldn't mind playing a lot of them games but some of them are so expensive like the Saturn it's just crazy to think that somebody's going to pay $180 to eight hundred bucks per game Panzer Dragoon and whatnot excetera and I think everybody's going to have the money go out there to experience some of these good games I believe in emulating them the ones that are downright expansively crazy just to see what they're like or a lot of hacked ROMs and Japanese versions that we never got over here in the states I love emulation for that reason
@@SuperNicktendo no I understand for this year it's been so crazy for me and plus I got three kids and a wife so I got other stuff that's I guess more important one more worth my money than little Samson kids or wife or I definitely be trying to hunt video games down like I do when I was young
Nice rundown! I'm an old timer so as far as suggestions go I wouldn't mind seeing a video on Commodore 64/128, Amiga, or classic Atari collecting. That said, I really enjoyed this one, a lot of in the weeds details I haven't seen much of elsewhere. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for the feedback! I'm trying to find a fine line between documentary and casual consumption. I have an Atari 2600 collection. I just got a Commodore 64 a couple months ago so I haven't expanded my collection but it does seem fun to cover those older consoles.
Great video mah dude! I got myself a turbo grafx a few years back, but never really invested in getting much for it. ...For some pretty obvious reasons lol. Just a side note, watch out for black frames while editing. I noticed one at 1:54-1:55. I'll let it slide this time, because I've seen hollywood do worse :P
Thanks for the feedback! I am fine tuning this format so it's good to know where the edges needed to be softened. I had an original vision for the format and changed a couple things and looks like a couple of spaces were left open.
Funny. If I started collecting back in the late 90s, everything would have been dirt cheap. Everybody was all about the Play Station and N64. The 8 & 16-bit games were practically given away in garage sales or store bargain bins. Ah well, at least the mini is coming out soon. BTW, something can't lose 160% in value. If that were true, a game worth $100 would then be worth -$60. Instead of selling it to you for $100, I'd have to GIVE it to you and an extra $60 as well.
I realized that my percentages were wrong. Of course this video took off. Maybe I should make it a habit. I really wish that I started collecting in the late 90s instead of Star Wars toys.
I never had the TG16 growing up, but I was aware of it. I've played a few of the games on my Raspberry Pi, and they're pretty cool. A few years ago I heard about this thing called the PC Engine, and when I looked it up I was surprised to see that it was the Japanese name for the TG16. I liked the PC Engine's name and design better. The TG16 is a bit bulky for my taste. If I had my choice, the top console to get the Classics treatment would be the PC Engine. I love mini consoles, and I would buy a PC Engine Classic for sure!
A turbo classic would be amazing! But I'm sure a lot of these games are stuck in copyright limbo. Maybe the Nintendo online will offer those games again but I'm not holding my breath.
Indeed. I've got a bunch of those Neo Geo games on my Switch, and those are awesome. I'm definitely curious to see if they make more with the online subscription service as opposed to just offering classic games on the eShop and using the proceeds to maintain their online service. I know personally, I'm likely to spend more than $20 per year on those games in the eShop (quite a bit in fact, based on what I spent on the Neo Geo games), but there are people who aren't going to care about these classic games. I don't know. I feel like it's better to be able to buy it outright as opposed to paying for a service that will shut down one day. In 10-20 years when I boot up my Switch, I'll still have those Neo Geo games, but when Nintendo discontinues the online service the games that are part of the service are gone.
The Turbo Grafx 16 mini will lower the price of many of the expensive games, especially if you mod the new mini system which hopefully will be possible as all the other mini systems can be moded, if that's the case then you can actually add ALL the games for the TG16 onto your new mini.
This might be the first Mini to actually do that. The SNES and NES classics didn't do that much to curb prices, but given the outlandish prices of the TGX16, we might see a serious drop
I had a Turbografx in 1991, then later got the CD add on and in 1992 got the TurboDuo to replace them, and picked up the Turbo Express when it lowered to $199 and offered 5 free games. Unfortunately I had to sell off my collection in 2010 after a job loss and a break up with my ex. I’ve recently been acquiring games again and this time mostly opting for the PC engine. I’m mainly buying HuCards off eBay, and getting Reproductions of the CD games. Now I don’t own a PCengine, Turbografx or a Duo…. But I will be getting the Analogue Duo to play these titles. I know this isn’t a common method of collecting but it’s how I want to do it. I’m able to buy mostly new software via reproductions and a brand new console that will play everything in one system. And I can supplement what PCE works doesn’t make with clean like new or even in some cases new/sealed vintage pieces. I’m not going with Turbografx North American titles for the most part because they are just ridiculously expensive now, and I had that style of media for 20 years, so I’m happy to get the Japanese variants plus they have better packaging and art design in my opinion. I do have a couple US copies though (splatter house and ninja spirit) anyways, that’s my rant…. Maybe it helps someone else wanting to get into this and seems put off by the pricing.
This was great Nick , I’m digging the style and upgrade in production value . This is a very professional and well put together video and lot of great info here . I was going to bring up the WiiU but I see Wes already beat me to it . It was crazy that the year the Switch came out like in a 10 month period like over 25 tg16 games trickled into the WiiU eShop . The only one I bought on the virtual console so far has been New Adventure Island . Great work man , keep it up.
Since when was there any production for a new gaming console from Turbografx 16 and when the hell was there any talk about that company joining sides with Sega LOL
just magical chase game is over 2000. i think maybe u underestimate ? it depends if you talk about complete games or new ones also... there can be a huge difference between loose and nib.
I REALLY wanted to collect for the turbo, but I just can't with those prices. I LOVE shmups, but I can't be dropping so much cash on each individual game
Super Nicktendo YEAH! For now I'm playing turbo games on my snes classic, but being able to actually use turbo controllers will be so much nicer on the turbo mini
I bought the TG-16+CD-ROM on 1999 till today still playing ok, but........ now I know the many risks with the system, so I´m glad I bought the ANALOGUE DUO some months ago.
The Turbo Grafx 16 is not what I would call compact. If you add the CD ROM, it becomes almost unwieldy looking. The PC Engine and Core Grafx were really small. I wonder if the price is going to bottom out with the new mini consoles. I'm a Neo Geo AES/MVS collector that's thought about getting into this machine. I also collect for the Sega Saturn and the PlayStation. I did just order *yesterday, a Core Grafx Mini from Japan. I'm pretty stoked that I'm going to get a chance to play these games.
Got a console new in the box for either $20 or $25 in 1996 from a video store that never even rented it out.And about 30 complete used games from the same place,and I mean the good ones(splatter house, ninja spirit,alien and devil's crush,bloody wolf)and many others.
If I had the disposable income I would relaunch this with all the good games with a upgrade in graphics and hardware but keep it a 2d system! Imagine all those great 2d games with hi def graphics like blazing lasers, bonk, lord of thunder etc.
I have a turbo express. I didn't buy it though, a former friend found it at a yard sale for a dollar and gave it to me a a gift when we were still friends. I opened it up a few years ago and capacitors were fine but the cable connecting the screen to the board was coming apart a bit which explained why the screen turned on but didnt work. I want to repair it but I don't know a lot about electronics yet so I dont know what to sreach to find it myself. Could one of you kind people in the comments point me in the right direction?
I would bet that it needs to be recapped. Most of the local video game stores should be able to repair it. If you trust eBay, some people offer the service.
@@SuperNicktendo It definitely needs to be. Do you know where I can buy the the capacitors and that little felx cable? I know how to solder and will be very careful. It is a fun learning experience and a way to save money all rolled into one.
It kills me that the Wii Shop is getting shut down as this was my only means to play those games. I'm hoping a "mini" console is released with the games. I don't mind emulation. I ain't paying that kind of cash, especially considering the maintenance headaches involved.
I have a PC-Engine Core Grafx and 8 games 7 of them are shmups... PC-Engine HuCards aren't that bad with most of the good ones not costing really any more than current AAA games for modern platforms. Sure I blew $140 on Soldier Blade but that was it for games over $100 for me.
Oh...you want to see expensive? Do a video on the Neo Geo AES. As an SNK collector I can tell you it has been the biggest money sink in my life. My Saturn and PlayStation collections pale in comparison. Games like Panzer Dragoon Saga, Burning Rangers, and Dragon Force are run of the mill cheap compared to some of SNK's titles. Even the cheapest hit in the low hundreds.
It's a good thing that I'm not too big of a fan of the games on the Neo Geo. I don't think my wife would appreciate me taking out a second mortgage for a set lol
@@SuperNicktendo Hey, hey is that anyway to act? Where is your sense of adventure? You can't say for sure that your wife will hate having multiple mortgages for a bunch of fighting games. You never know until you try! ;)
If you're including every game ever made for the system in that $20k figure, and especially if you're basing prices off of the more recent, second-hand market, then it'd be far cheaper than most systems' entire game libraries, including the NES... Just not really an important metric at all, and quite misleading.
Not sure why this is misleading when I titled the video " Here is why a complete Turbo Grafx 16 set costs $20,000" and not " the Turbo Grafx set is more expensive than any other console on the planet" I don't even compare the prices to the NES or any other console for that matter.
@@SuperNicktendo I understand, but does that title not imply that that's an unusually high price for such? It's literally stating that the video contains an explanation of why it's so expensive, which was precisely my point of mentioning other systems, like the NES, and the fact that there are many other systems whose complete game library costs far more, and they would therefore drive the perceived point home even better. Otherwise, the whole thing just seems arbitrary and somewhat pointless... Also, $20k is generally seen as a rather large amount of money, especially in your average video game-consumer's world, and especially for one system's collection, which further strengthens its ability to be interpreted that way. In a vacuum, that seems like a lot of money (to most people), and I think the title fools the viewer to initially think that that really _is_ a lot of money for such, like "Holy cow, $20k for a single console's video game collection?!?", but when you look at things comparatively, you quickly realize that that's a drop in the bucket of what's out there. That being said, I'm aware that different people interpret things differently, and the possible complications with semantics and whatnot, so I admit it's possible to be done without the intent to mislead anyone.
@@SuperNicktendo Like u said man it was hard to find games for it back then because i only remember a select few brick-motar stores that carried it the system Like toys r us and kb toys is were i only saw it. I got mines for my birthday at toys r us back in 1993 for only $50.00. And i got 2 games and they were $9.99 each. Legendary ax 2 and Nuetopia which i still own. I found the other games at flea markets here and there many years ago I never saw it kmart or Walmart So the available of the system was rare
You can when you can goof. I had calculated it as it's current value then how much it lost to get to that current value. But that's not how stats work! Of course it just so happens this mistake is on one of my more popular videos.
Thanks for watching this video of Retronomics! What system should I forecast next?
I think a Sega Master System forecast would be interesting. It is kind of on par with the TG16 as far as the success goes stateside.
Sega Game Gear. I own a complete set of that, so I'm curious.
Super Nintendo's
Thanks for the video with all the information on the system. I bought a base system back in the 90’s and a few games. Later in the 90’s when the company went out of business a local game store was selling base turbo graft systems for $5 and games for $1. I bought 4 used base systems and a lot of the games. NEC Technologies was 20 minutes from where I lived and I used to go there and play games before they were released in return for filling out a survey. One time they even gave me my favorite game for the system, Neutopia II. I still have the game factory sealed in the box. They also gave me some promotional material which consisted of 5 by 7 inch cards which had the artwork of the box of the game and a written description of the game. I still have these cards too. It is interesting to find out now that some of the games are worth over $100 now because I remember seeing those turbo graft game cards for $1 in used game bins at small game stores in the 90’s. Back then you could also buy a converter that attached to the Turbo Grafx that played PC Engine games. I bought a lot of those too for $1 back in the late 90’s at small game stores with used games...
Turbografx 16 and it’s games are very expensive because everyone that has a Turbografx wants a complete set. I have a Turbografx 16 but will not buy every single game that was ever made for it.
That doesn’t mean that the games will continuously go up in value exponentially forever. That is not how collectible markets work.
Eventually, there will be a time when people will lose interest in it and will not be paying $100s on its games. Awhile ago a payed several hundred dollars per several games just because I thought they were cool and I wanted them.
I think I want to buy the Turbo Drive card because you can get every single game ever released on the system. That is really awesome!
I miss my Turbo Grafix so much , I had the Express and I think I played it more than any of my systems as a kid, my uncle owned a pawn shop and was just sitting in the overstock room and said I can have it , so good
Thats so cool. The closet I got as a kid was when our neighbor brought it over. I'm glad I got it now, but wish I started collecting a bit sooner.
Just ordered a American Turbografx-16 on Ebay have had one since 1992 but sold it. Ready to start collecting again
Nice! What's your first game to buy?
@@SuperNicktendo Ninja Spirit uhhhhgain , I m too be sure to most definitely get a PC Engine converter to TG-16 too play STREET FIGHTER 2 and Strip Fighter as well with Japanese version of SPLATTER HOUSE
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The TurboGrafix is way too expensive to collect for. I just use the Wii U. The Wii U Virtual Console has a ton of TG-16 games on it, and is my go-to TG player. It has a lot of really great games. Especially shooters!
So many shooters! For whatever reason my research didn't pop up Wii U eShop :/ thanks for pointing it out!
Nefarious Wes - During 1989, I wanted/purchased a Turbografx 16 only, because my brother had an NES and my cousins had a Sega Genesis, so I wanted to be different and got TG16 instead. Bonk and Keith Courage were memorable and fun, but Bloody Wolf stoke the show for me.
I don’t remember when, but I did sell the system to get new games and next gen systems, but I managed to buy back many of my TG16 games, system, and associated hardware over the years on eBay.
Pronounced turbo graphs ....silent f ...take it from their CEO lmao
Although I gave you a thumbs up! No other system or emulator has better grapfx or sound and game play then the original hardware or Turbografx-16 just ordered one in the mail used at $192.00🤑
Ready to get them awsome Games now. I also had a Turbografx-16 before in 1992 sold it BIG MISTAKE 🙏☯️😎
“Not a lot of legal options” boy did that line crack me up. TG16 can literally be played on a 3DS and it emulates it well. Plus, like, a toaster can play these games as well.
This was fantastic Nick.
How can the CD add-on result in a dead system? Does it overload and burst the caps or something?
The overall trends seem to point to a... CRASH!!! Haha ok not really but not nearly keeping the exponential rates like they had in the last decade.
I’d be hesitant to collect for a system that is subject to so many problems and system failures. Emulation is the savior!
Should have gone into more detail about the addon. Blown caps and a lot of moving parts means that you don't see a lot of those around. The cd unit itself comes out of the addon for some reason. Very early cd system that had a lot of flaws.
As pricing goes : they're leveling off and I think you'll see that they either don't rise at all or the rare games will stay in a private collection somewhere and the system will be just a distant memory.
Just buy the duo rx problem solved
I still have mine when I bought it years ago and the turbo express
Nice - I wish I had actually worked to collect when I did. I found Bonk's Adventure sealed for 9 bucks and opened it up -.- Still a fun system!
@@SuperNicktendo yeah it is I play bonks and this kickboxing game it's still fun to play
As much as I'd love to own even a single Turbografx-related thing, I can't see myself starting to collect for it at this stage in the game. It's unfortunate, but I'll live! Thanks for a very informative video!
yeah it's a really fun system with a lot of unique games but super expensive.
Konami is releasing a Turbografx mini in March. 99.99$
I was the only kid to have this as a kid. Bonks, Bonks 2, R type, and Bloody Wolf. I can't remember what happend to it. Great video
Thanks for watching! I appreciate the feedback.
I really love my TG16 Mini, so many great games on it.
I would love if they still produced games for this system and mastered how to push this system to it's limits!
I would suggest looking into homebrew - I don't know how the community is but I'm sure there's some fun games.
I still have my TurboGrafx and Turbobooster plus. Fingers crossed that it stays healthy.
I hope so too. It's such a cool system!
You were kind of right with your comments of common turbografx issues. I repair/mod these systems so I can inform. US Turbografx systems do NOT suffer from Bad capacitors. In fact, they are very reliable(other than the built in RF jacks). Here is a list of the systems that do NOT suffer from Bad capacitors. US TurboGrafx, jp pc engine, jp coregrafx 1&2, jp pce shuttle, jp Duo-r and rx, and jp super grafx. Here is a list of all the turbo grafx and PC engine variations that do suffer from Bad capacitors. Duo systems(both us and jp. Black case), turbo Express / PC engine GT portable, gray super CD-ROM 2 CD drive, PC engine LT, white PC engine CD ROM 2 drive and some black tg-16 CD-ROM drives. All of these systems can end up being very reliable once the capacitors and other standard maintenance is done.
Thanks a lot for that information. I figured since I had to have my turbo express recapped (the sound still doesn't work) that having a recapped turbo anything would be ideal.
@@SuperNicktendo the sound still doesn't work after a recap? Who did the work? There's probably bad traces caused by old cap damage. That's something I can repair for you if you'd like to get it working correctly.
@@Chris-Courage might take you up on that. A guy that I worked with at the game store helped me out so he wasn't 100% experienced
I just found a TG16 console in my attic. Fixing to restore it
In about 1996 my mom bought a new tg16 system from a rental store they never used for $25 because they were clearing out all their stock to do with that particular system and I was lucky enough to get one that had never been used and they had all the best games for $3 devil's/alien crush splatterhouse,ninja spirit,bloody wolf,neutooia,bonk, legendary axe,military madness the list goes on and the games were totally complete with the cardboard box the CD style case went in.
Very informative video, thank you !
Great video..can't wait until turbo grafx 16 mini
The Turbo-Grafx-16 has a capacitor problem like the Original Xbox has a clock capacitor problem they leak acid over time
Ooh that's something I didn't know. Thanks for the heads up. I hate leaky caps
*Get a Mini for $100 a pop now people!* 💡
Konami is making a TurboGrafix 16 mini also PC engine and Core Grafix check the TH-cam trailer
I'll check it out!
Was wondering when you made this video was it cic or cib game sales you went with the sales prices?
@@timweatherill4845 loose games. I went by what pricecharting stated sold the most since that has the most sales data.
Super Nicktendo cool I’ve been a collector for a long time. The prices are just becoming crazy!
Fantastic video. Kanye's unreleased album had me wondering what a turbografx 16 is
It's a great machine. I have a large collection and a Duo, but I've started to use emulation for everything the last few years.
My friend is doing that as well. Just selling off a lot of heavy hitters and going flash drives on original hardware
This is why you get it through a modded system like I did
what kind of mods did you use?
All I have is Keith Courage
Back in the day I had one of these. I was dissappointed with the games at the time so I sold it. I regret that.
The TG-16 is such a nightmare to collect for. Absolutely enjoyed the support the Nintendo eshop put out for it--way more worth the money and effort. Also, I snickered when you mentioned the low level games not cracking the $20 spot because it's like yeah...don't come to OUR neck of the woods--these people around here slap $30 on Keith Courage and mouth off when you question them...
I'd love for Hudson to just say to hell with it and put out a TG-16 Classic, fully packed with all the games. LOL
Yeah I try to inform people on prices. A lot of people see something older than 20 years and think they're sitting on a gold mine.
We're sitting on a gold mine!? NOW you tell us!!!
But for real, that--that EXACTLY! It hurts sometimes...
The Turbografx 16 mini is coming!
AMEN
PC Engine Mini is coming .
Liked the video. Subbed after watching. Commenting because you asked. I’d consider collecting TG16 only because it was the unicorn growing up and it’s got only 138 games. I look forward to watching more content just like this from you.
Thanks! I need to revisit the Turbo Grafx 16.
Good video! I have recently bought a Duo-r that was recapped, RGB and region modded from Japan. I picked up 10 x Turbografx 16 boxed games, and a couple of PC Engine games (Street Fighter Championship Edition and Operation Wolf). I also picked up the arcade Hucard to play to Neo Geo ports down the line. It's a great system, and one that I had always wanted for the last 30 years! I just wish I had picked it up years ago, as prices do seem to be rising. The Japanese PC engine equivalents though are quite a bit cheaper than the Turbografx 16 games! :)
I might go the japan route! There are a ton more games as well. Glad you enjoyed the video!
This is why I'll get the Analogue Duo for $200 and the Turbo Everdrive for $80 ($95 if including the 32gb Micro SD card)...
Hopefully you can snag one! I'm hoping they'll be more plentiful than the Pocket
NEC made one of the first microchips, the size of a strand of hair.
Great video man, so much information. I have never owned a TG16. I played it at my friends house growing up, but that was the only time. I wasn't really introduced to it again till much later in life. Mostly being because it was expensive so a lot of kids parents couldn't afford it and just bought a SNES or Sega at the time.
There is no way I can afford to collect for it now, but do enjoy the games via my SNES Classic system, which a friend modded for me
I didn't know you could play those games on a Snes classic. I'm looking to stream so the Snes classic is a good HD solution for the time being.
yeah you have to boy some special adaptor that will accept a micro SD card and than you can add a ton of stuff. I have all the NES, SNES, N64, GB, GBC, GBA, Master system, Sega, 32x, and a few playstation 1 games
@@RussLyman awesome! I'll check it out
Great video just gained a sub. I remember when I used to pickup TG16 lots on ebay back in 2004 that would give you a full working system and a few games for $30. I am glad I picked up my systems back then but I regret not getting a pc engine or core grafx because the TG16 is just a bulky mess for my current setup and would have preferred those. Anyways look forward to the next vid!
Thanks for sticking around! I look forward to bringing more content. I also have a series where I review a game from my collection that the audience chooses. That will be the next video!
Glad I got my turbo Grafx and CD back in the 90's when they were cheap. My library and hardware has expanded since. I would eventually get an express and super Grafx along with the everdrive preloaded with all hucard roms and some extras. Also got an arcade card for my turbo cd which allows me to play all 3 CD turbo formats.
I can never collect for the turbo Graphics at the time because I spent all my money on Sega Genesis stuff The Grey video that's crazy how much money people will pay for some of these games I better just emulate some of them if I can't afford them I think everybody should at least enjoy a game no need to pay that kind of money for game just enjoy it and I don't understand why somebody would dislike this video this is a very good quality video good job you should deserve more
Thanks for the kind words. I have really considered just emulating the systems I do not have nostalgia for.
@@SuperNicktendo yeah I wouldn't mind playing a lot of them games but some of them are so expensive like the Saturn it's just crazy to think that somebody's going to pay $180 to eight hundred bucks per game Panzer Dragoon and whatnot excetera and I think everybody's going to have the money go out there to experience some of these good games I believe in emulating them the ones that are downright expansively crazy just to see what they're like or a lot of hacked ROMs and Japanese versions that we never got over here in the states I love emulation for that reason
Same. But I'm still considering little samson
@@SuperNicktendo no I understand for this year it's been so crazy for me and plus I got three kids and a wife so I got other stuff that's I guess more important one more worth my money than little Samson kids or wife or I definitely be trying to hunt video games down like I do when I was young
Really happy to see Konami releasing a TurboGrafx classic. Hopefully it will get hacked, so we can play the entire game library on it.
That would be awesome. I will definitely be preordering it.
Im glad i didn't trade in or sale my turbografx 16 or turbo CD 👍
I wish I still had mine. The graphics were way better than the Sega. The one thing that did concern me was wear of the gold contacts on the cards.
The available emulators for these roms are stellar.
Yeah they have definitely come a long way. I'm looking forward to the Turbo Grafx mini
.....and for that reason decided to get a Turbo Everdrive for it
That's really the way to go at this point. I can't even justify spending over $300 for a game much less 1k.
Then came Covid. Hold my Beer! Lol
yeah a lot of these past videos are way outdated.
I would love to own a TurboGrafx 16
It has a ton of great games. If you really like bullet hell games, there's no shortage of them!
I got two of them😀
Not worth the money. Great system but too fucking expensive. Ive had one for 5 years and have 6 games.
Can't wait for the mini!
Nice rundown! I'm an old timer so as far as suggestions go I wouldn't mind seeing a video on Commodore 64/128, Amiga, or classic Atari collecting.
That said, I really enjoyed this one, a lot of in the weeds details I haven't seen much of elsewhere. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for the feedback! I'm trying to find a fine line between documentary and casual consumption. I have an Atari 2600 collection. I just got a Commodore 64 a couple months ago so I haven't expanded my collection but it does seem fun to cover those older consoles.
Great video mah dude!
I got myself a turbo grafx a few years back, but never really invested in getting much for it.
...For some pretty obvious reasons lol.
Just a side note, watch out for black frames while editing. I noticed one at 1:54-1:55. I'll let it slide this time, because I've seen hollywood do worse :P
Thanks for the feedback! I am fine tuning this format so it's good to know where the edges needed to be softened. I had an original vision for the format and changed a couple things and looks like a couple of spaces were left open.
3:18 good lord man use some pliers
The Turbo tap supports up to 5 controllers not 4.
CIB copy of Magical Chase runs $13,000 CAD on eBay as of typing this comment so thats one big reason right there
Funny. If I started collecting back in the late 90s, everything would have been dirt cheap. Everybody was all about the Play Station and N64. The 8 & 16-bit games were practically given away in garage sales or store bargain bins. Ah well, at least the mini is coming out soon. BTW, something can't lose 160% in value. If that were true, a game worth $100 would then be worth -$60. Instead of selling it to you for $100, I'd have to GIVE it to you and an extra $60 as well.
I realized that my percentages were wrong. Of course this video took off. Maybe I should make it a habit.
I really wish that I started collecting in the late 90s instead of Star Wars toys.
I never had the TG16 growing up, but I was aware of it. I've played a few of the games on my Raspberry Pi, and they're pretty cool. A few years ago I heard about this thing called the PC Engine, and when I looked it up I was surprised to see that it was the Japanese name for the TG16. I liked the PC Engine's name and design better. The TG16 is a bit bulky for my taste.
If I had my choice, the top console to get the Classics treatment would be the PC Engine. I love mini consoles, and I would buy a PC Engine Classic for sure!
A turbo classic would be amazing! But I'm sure a lot of these games are stuck in copyright limbo. Maybe the Nintendo online will offer those games again but I'm not holding my breath.
True. Though I'd prefer them on the eShop as opposed to Nintendo Online.
@@Frank_D eShop would be better like the Neo Geo games already available.
Indeed. I've got a bunch of those Neo Geo games on my Switch, and those are awesome.
I'm definitely curious to see if they make more with the online subscription service as opposed to just offering classic games on the eShop and using the proceeds to maintain their online service. I know personally, I'm likely to spend more than $20 per year on those games in the eShop (quite a bit in fact, based on what I spent on the Neo Geo games), but there are people who aren't going to care about these classic games.
I don't know. I feel like it's better to be able to buy it outright as opposed to paying for a service that will shut down one day. In 10-20 years when I boot up my Switch, I'll still have those Neo Geo games, but when Nintendo discontinues the online service the games that are part of the service are gone.
@@Frank_D yeah. I would buy digital more if I was guaranteed to own it forever.
really interesting video
Thanks for watching!
The Turbo Grafx 16 mini will lower the price of many of the expensive games, especially if you mod the new mini system which hopefully will be possible as all the other mini systems can be moded, if that's the case then you can actually add ALL the games for the TG16 onto your new mini.
This might be the first Mini to actually do that. The SNES and NES classics didn't do that much to curb prices, but given the outlandish prices of the TGX16, we might see a serious drop
New sub just wanted to know the game at the end of your video it looked great. Turbo Duo is the only way to go!
Thanks! I really want to get a turbo duo but for now I'll stick with the traditional turbo grafx
I had a Turbografx in 1991, then later got the CD add on and in 1992 got the TurboDuo to replace them, and picked up the Turbo Express when it lowered to $199 and offered 5 free games. Unfortunately I had to sell off my collection in 2010 after a job loss and a break up with my ex.
I’ve recently been acquiring games again and this time mostly opting for the PC engine. I’m mainly buying HuCards off eBay, and getting Reproductions of the CD games. Now I don’t own a PCengine, Turbografx or a Duo…. But I will be getting the Analogue Duo to play these titles. I know this isn’t a common method of collecting but it’s how I want to do it. I’m able to buy mostly new software via reproductions and a brand new console that will play everything in one system. And I can supplement what PCE works doesn’t make with clean like new or even in some cases new/sealed vintage pieces.
I’m not going with Turbografx North American titles for the most part because they are just ridiculously expensive now, and I had that style of media for 20 years, so I’m happy to get the Japanese variants plus they have better packaging and art design in my opinion. I do have a couple US copies though (splatter house and ninja spirit) anyways, that’s my rant…. Maybe it helps someone else wanting to get into this and seems put off by the pricing.
20k for that thing? Dang... You nerds are too serious about collecting dust.
This was great Nick , I’m digging the style and upgrade in production value . This is a very professional and well put together video and lot of great info here . I was going to bring up the WiiU but I see Wes already beat me to it . It was crazy that the year the Switch came out like in a 10 month period like over 25 tg16 games trickled into the WiiU eShop . The only one I bought on the virtual console so far has been New Adventure Island . Great work man , keep it up.
Thanks! I think I'm on the right track for this format. Now I just need to tweak the viewer voted review.
If you buy something for "bragging rights" you deserve to get ripped off
oh my fking god i have the kit compled
Next-generation Turbografx 16/PC Engine teaming up with Sega please.
I'm so excited for that to come out. Hopefully we'll see some awesome games.
Since when was there any production for a new gaming console from Turbografx 16 and when the hell was there any talk about that company joining sides with Sega LOL
just magical chase game is over 2000. i think maybe u underestimate ? it depends if you talk about complete games or new ones also... there can be a huge difference between loose and nib.
I believe I used all loose pricing since those were the most sold at the time. Easier to guage. New/complete is even more expensive
I REALLY wanted to collect for the turbo, but I just can't with those prices. I LOVE shmups, but I can't be dropping so much cash on each individual game
It's crazy expensive! But it looks like the Turbo Grafx mini might be easily modified.
Super Nicktendo YEAH! For now I'm playing turbo games on my snes classic, but being able to actually use turbo controllers will be so much nicer on the turbo mini
I bought the TG-16+CD-ROM on 1999 till today still playing ok, but........ now I know the many risks with the system, so I´m glad I bought the ANALOGUE DUO some months ago.
wow should have kept mine
The Turbo Grafx 16 is not what I would call compact. If you add the CD ROM, it becomes almost unwieldy looking. The PC Engine and Core Grafx were really small. I wonder if the price is going to bottom out with the new mini consoles.
I'm a Neo Geo AES/MVS collector that's thought about getting into this machine. I also collect for the Sega Saturn and the PlayStation. I did just order *yesterday, a Core Grafx Mini from Japan. I'm pretty stoked that I'm going to get a chance to play these games.
Got a console new in the box for either $20 or $25 in 1996 from a video store that never even rented it out.And about 30 complete used games from the same place,and I mean the good ones(splatter house, ninja spirit,alien and devil's crush,bloody wolf)and many others.
If I had the disposable income I would relaunch this with all the good games with a upgrade in graphics and hardware but keep it a 2d system! Imagine all those great 2d games with hi def graphics like blazing lasers, bonk, lord of thunder etc.
I love my Turbografx, but it really is the game system for collectors. I bought three games, just the hu cards, and it still cost me 90 dollars.
I have a turbo express. I didn't buy it though, a former friend found it at a yard sale for a dollar and gave it to me a a gift when we were still friends. I opened it up a few years ago and capacitors were fine but the cable connecting the screen to the board was coming apart a bit which explained why the screen turned on but didnt work. I want to repair it but I don't know a lot about electronics yet so I dont know what to sreach to find it myself. Could one of you kind people in the comments point me in the right direction?
I would bet that it needs to be recapped. Most of the local video game stores should be able to repair it. If you trust eBay, some people offer the service.
@@SuperNicktendo It definitely needs to be. Do you know where I can buy the the capacitors and that little felx cable? I know how to solder and will be very careful. It is a fun learning experience and a way to save money all rolled into one.
It kills me that the Wii Shop is getting shut down as this was my only means to play those games. I'm hoping a "mini" console is released with the games. I don't mind emulation. I ain't paying that kind of cash, especially considering the maintenance headaches involved.
I only have one game. I'm seriously considering that supersd system.
The Wii U Virtual Console still has a bunch of TurboGrafx games on it. That's what I use. Buy 'em up before Nintendo closes shop there too!
There's a reason ppl are getting out of collecting.
yeah it's stupid expensive
Turbo gang ✊🏽
As an ex owner of a modded pc engine dou yeah this system was a huge money pit fun but definitely a pit.
My friend is selling off a lot of imports he acquired. So many unique games available!
Super Nicktendo I recently sold a lot of my unique stuff as well it’s crazy how high some of these prices have gotten.
This was the only console I ever returned. I bought it and literally took it back the same day. Got the genesis instead. Glad I did lol
I have a PC-Engine Core Grafx and 8 games 7 of them are shmups... PC-Engine HuCards aren't that bad with most of the good ones not costing really any more than current AAA games for modern platforms. Sure I blew $140 on Soldier Blade but that was it for games over $100 for me.
I tried to do us only since it's easier to track the pricing.
If you want to play tg16 games just get a refurbished duo and get an everdrive.
I've got a pristine, unopened TurboGrafx 16 still in its original packaging, and I'm uncertain whether I should sell it or hang onto it.
I love me a bit of Magical Case!
That will haunt me for a while. I wonder if TH-cam will let me change it.
Oh...you want to see expensive? Do a video on the Neo Geo AES. As an SNK collector I can tell you it has been the biggest money sink in my life. My Saturn and PlayStation collections pale in comparison. Games like Panzer Dragoon Saga, Burning Rangers, and Dragon Force are run of the mill cheap compared to some of SNK's titles. Even the cheapest hit in the low hundreds.
It's a good thing that I'm not too big of a fan of the games on the Neo Geo. I don't think my wife would appreciate me taking out a second mortgage for a set lol
@@SuperNicktendo
Hey, hey is that anyway to act? Where is your sense of adventure? You can't say for sure that your wife will hate having multiple mortgages for a bunch of fighting games. You never know until you try! ;)
If you're including every game ever made for the system in that $20k figure, and especially if you're basing prices off of the more recent, second-hand market, then it'd be far cheaper than most systems' entire game libraries, including the NES... Just not really an important metric at all, and quite misleading.
Not sure why this is misleading when I titled the video " Here is why a complete Turbo Grafx 16 set costs $20,000" and not " the Turbo Grafx set is more expensive than any other console on the planet"
I don't even compare the prices to the NES or any other console for that matter.
@@SuperNicktendo I understand, but does that title not imply that that's an unusually high price for such? It's literally stating that the video contains an explanation of why it's so expensive, which was precisely my point of mentioning other systems, like the NES, and the fact that there are many other systems whose complete game library costs far more, and they would therefore drive the perceived point home even better. Otherwise, the whole thing just seems arbitrary and somewhat pointless... Also, $20k is generally seen as a rather large amount of money, especially in your average video game-consumer's world, and especially for one system's collection, which further strengthens its ability to be interpreted that way. In a vacuum, that seems like a lot of money (to most people), and I think the title fools the viewer to initially think that that really _is_ a lot of money for such, like "Holy cow, $20k for a single console's video game collection?!?", but when you look at things comparatively, you quickly realize that that's a drop in the bucket of what's out there. That being said, I'm aware that different people interpret things differently, and the possible complications with semantics and whatnot, so I admit it's possible to be done without the intent to mislead anyone.
I wish I never sold mine. Stupid alcoholism.
Guess I shouldn’t have sold mine🙄
I traded my TurboGrafx16 and about 10 games for some weak ass crack back in '91. SO STUPID.
I own one with only 5 games
Devil crush
Neutopia
Dragon spirit
Kieth courage
Legendary ax 2
Nice! I only have Bonks Adventure
@@SuperNicktendo
Like u said man it was hard to find games for it back then because i only remember a select few brick-motar stores that carried it the system
Like toys r us and kb toys is were i only saw it. I got mines for my birthday at toys r us back in 1993 for only $50.00. And i got 2 games and they were $9.99 each. Legendary ax 2 and Nuetopia which i still own. I found the other games at flea markets here and there many years ago
I never saw it kmart or Walmart
So the available of the system was rare
The Japanese version is cheaper!!! 80 DOLLARS!!!
how can you lose 160 % of your value?
You can when you can goof. I had calculated it as it's current value then how much it lost to get to that current value. But that's not how stats work! Of course it just so happens this mistake is on one of my more popular videos.
Had one since it came out with like 20 games my stupid brother gave it away pissed🤬
Oh no! That's the worst!
4:18 Magical Case
Doh :/
I have one
That is the most corniest price I've ever seen I'd rather smash it with a metal bat then even thinking about paying that.
Rich people with no morals ruined retro gaming. There, I summed it up. No need for the video.
This video is just full so miss-information. Hard to watch
Care to explain? I would appreciate your feedback.