Why Sidious Tried to Run From Yoda In Revenge of the Sith
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He ran because after Yoda knocked him off his feet, with the force, he knew his little green friend was strong enough to kill him.
I think Sidious did fear Yoda. He didn't live in fear of Yoda, but feared actively confronting him because he knew it would be risky to do so, because Yoda could and likely would destroy him. Sure, Sidious MIGHT win, but he couldn't predict that and via a risk/reward calculation, it wasn't worth the risk. Especially considering that Sidious knew he already won, so why risk the hard-fought victory?
they feared eachother
Agree, why to risk to die after investing decades for his empire?
And to run, he would stall time to let the clone troops handle Yoda
Well what would you do if a muppet ran at you?
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It took me a second😂
run
😄😄😄
And Chuckey can be the Sith lord.
Sidious was running as vocalize by Yoda. The reason was simple... he wanted to survive.
1) Sidious as stated by Lucas himself, just lost a dual with Mace. Mace proved superior. Yoda had 800 years more experience than Mace. It would be foolish to challenge that.
2) Yoda just took the full force of his Sith lightning and brushed it off.
3) Yoda knocked him across the room while his defense was up.
4) Sidious had an entire Legend of Clones in the building if he could escape to them.
It wasn't a tactical retreat... it was a smart attempt at escape. He was buying time to get reinforcement.
It is the same reason he never sought out Yoda nor allows Vader to do so. Yoda is too dangerous.
This!
You literally just confirmed and defined a tactical retreat, sir lol
"Yet so powerful you are why leave?" - Yoda
@@TrapTech tactical retreat…also known as running away…lol.
Sidious isnt stupid! He knew deep down yoda could end him, sidious was even more fearful of yoda turning to the dark side (Hell everyone was scared of that outcome) a dark side yoda would one shot sidious in less than a second... nothing but dust FACTS
I would say he ran because he had already won the political game. Dueling Yoda risks it all for no real gain. Yoda has to kill him to win but the Emperor just has to stay alive. With no jedi order and no army one on one combat is the only chance Yoda has. Deny the duel and he wins by default.
Exactly.
Yes...he already had the universe in his clutches with total control of the Senate, the one army, the droid army, and Vader. He didnt want to risk dying at the hands of Yoda.
Perfectly articulated. Yoda is also the only force sensitive alive who has any measurable chance at possibly besting sidious in combat.
@@Jedilord882 unless Anakin turned back to good and becomes the wall he turns into whenever someone he cares about is in danger.
@@Jedilord882 Noone can beat Sidious but the chosen one, its a prophecy. No matter how close you'll come to finish old Sheev off, something will happen to change that outcome, unless its the chosen one trying to finish him off.
Yoda released the relatively unknown "Force Fart," Sideous needed some air badly. That's what really happened.
Yoda only lost because of his little frame. The explosion of force lightning sent Yoda flying further than palps. If Yoda didn't fall, he kills palps
He ran because he was smart. Sure, he may have believed he could beat Yoda one-on-one but he knew fighting him was a risk and it was simply not necessary. By this point in his plan after Order 66 the only way Yoda could win was by beating Palpatine in a duel. It made complete sense for the Emperor not to take that risk if it could be avoided.
I also like to think he saw Yoda as a surviving member of a long since gone better version of the order, and that while he had been able to cloud his perception in his old age the High-Republic Jedi had just had a massive wake-up call and was fully present in that moment.
I think other then respect for Yoda's knowledge in the force Palpatine was afraid as well, and since Mace Windu was taking him down with ease and was only alive thanks to Anakim being present and knowing that Yoda was stronger then Windu makes sense to me regardless of what he had accomplished in Vader, No body wants a Victory and be dead at the same time haha
800 years experience is why. This also how Darth Maul defeated Qui Gon Jinn by fleeing. Sidious didn't get the chance to teach this to Vader leading to his loss on Mustafaar. When Vader encounters Obi Wan Kenobi aboard the Death Star his is more than aware of this tactic.
Interesting..I didn't know about form 4 tapping into the emotions. Did we see Yoda do the same when he and Palpatine were locked in? That sudden change/look of emotion wash over him. The look of shock on Palps!?
Wow, thanks for the explanation. Up to this moment, I had no idea that Yoda disarmed Sidious before he toyed with the Grand Master and threw "the Senate" at him. Advantages of having the novel.
I never thought of the tactical part, but did see him humble a little due to Yoda's force push. but it make sense, if Sideous is a master of all 7 forms, he'd know the weaknesses of them all
Two possibilities: one, he became legit afraid of Yoda as he knew the Jedi could kill him. Or two, he was beginning to sense that Vader was in danger and was distracted.
It could be both as well.
Yoda was the only Jedi alive at this time who could possibly best Sidious. He’s no fool lmao
@@Jedilord882 well he didn't beat him tho. Mace Windu did tho and he was the only hope but thanks to Anakin that didn't happen. Still won the duel tho
@@whoami4352 yoda disarmed him in the lightsaber duel lol
@@Jedilord882 a Sith is never disarmed. Palpatine even taunted younger Vader for being so reliant on his saber over mastery of the force
Sidious' oh shit look after getting up from that Force push was unmistakable. He underestimated Yoda's power and suddenly did not want to tangle with him. Yoda on the other hand, had a taste of Sidious' and still wanted to brawl. Powerful as he was, inherently Sidious was a coward. Evil usually is cowardly. It can be powerful to kill and dominated, but when confronted by anything that can destroy it, it shrinks away. That's what Lucas wanted to show.
I believe he was trying to get to the door and use force speed to getaway and reach out for Vader as he had sensed earlier that Vader is in danger he even mentioned it before Yoda showed up so it is safe to say that if he had succeeded in getting away then Obi wan was definitely gonna get barbecued on Mustafar and Vader would go on to reach his full potential
Sidious was a genius, he knew that yoda could be strong enough to kill him and he knew anakin was in trouble
We all know how powerful Yoda would be As A sith; I have A question:How powerful Sidious would be if he was A jedi ?
a sith can use lightside abilitys a jedi cannot use dark side abilitys thus,darth sidious being a jedi would make him weaker
@@YodaTheAfroMan apart from this sidious was inpatient arrogant and ruthless his whole life he wouldn’t make a good jedi and the darkside users wouldn’t use the light bc they think the lightside is weak
@@markusvanhusen8600 I think he means like a Sith can use Force Push but a Jedi can't use Force Lightning or Force Choke
The reason why he embraced the darkside was because he felt the darkside made him stronger than the Jedi.
@@YodaTheAfroMan the Mind trick is a Dark side ability.
Jedi can use it, they just don't want to.
Normally.
One strength and weakness of each is how the force is used. A sith isn't confined by rules - they can be as destructive as they want to be. They can even use human shields and the threat of harm to innocents and friends. Jedi cannot. Jedi have to not only consider the ramifications of destructive conflicts on their surroundings, but on other people. They are even reluctant to kill their opponents. They have to expend time, energy, and concentration on not only dueling their sith opponents, but protecting those who are being endangered by the sith. The sith can use this to their advantage, because they don't care who gets hurt or what gets destroyed (which is why they're sith in the first place). So in essence, for a jedi to be on equal terms in an engagement, by and large, they have to work harder than the sith does, and can be "blackmailed" by the sith who might be threatening innocents and friends.
The simpler explanation is that
Palpatine (Sidious) had already won. Yoda just hadn’t realized that the Jedi had lost yet. That is why Sidious was laughing like a lunatic the whole time.
And I don’t think that he wanted Yoda died either, or even captured. He wanted him in exile, hiding like the Sith have had to endure for the past thousand years.
I'm not totaly sure about that, if we keep everything of RoS but change the outcomes of the duel to "Yoda slain Palpatine" there still a chance that at least something can be done to mitigate (a bit) the futur outcomes. And yoda absolutly wanted to at least break the dark side by pulling out the roots, and finally the said roots is in range of his lightsaber, he was going all out on this, even if the jedi was lost, at least the sith would have been slain too.
@@itachiaurion3198 It’s kinda late to mitigate things. His people have the security footage of Jedi Master Mace Windu’s attempt to kill the Chancellor of the Republic, and soon of the Grand Master of the Order too. A couple of the points of going to the Senate chambers was to;
1 - Give Palpatine some room, lots of obstacles is a plus.
2 - Put Yoda, at a disadvantage. Way to much jumping there for someone of his age and size.
3 - General security and public broadcast camera’s.
It was over. The Jedi would go down as traitors. All that Palpatine needed to stall and keep Yoda back until either security or the troopers showed up.
@@eds1942 The one big big issue with that is, the republic isn't brain dead. Sith was not something they didn't new, they methodicaly erradicated the "true" sith in -6XXX BY on one of the very few genocide commited by the republic because the sith species, then the sith lord was so dangerous. I always find this new interpretation that comes in the recent years that "somehow palpatine can even let pass the fact that he his a sith lord" very suspicious at best. Yeah, maybe it could pass, but no one in their right mind in the star wars universe will choose a sith over a jedi, especially the republic. After the dust has settle without any sith lord to take the rein (in case of sidious death wich could have happen), the senate will probably find evidence oh trahison from palpatine and some pro jedi one can still make the difference, bail organa to name the most well know. But it's far to long to debate about that on a text and on a media like youtube.
I would also argue that jumping is more Yoda forte than sidious, they are both old but Yoda as exceptionnal physical condition, watch any of his ligthsaber wrestling against dooku or sidious, they can't overpower his "tiny" arms. He always jump to match his ennemy and probably have an easier time launching himself in the air with less mass. It was his downfall as the blast in their last clash make him fall in one of the only case where his stature was important.
Thanks for the anwser, but I still don't agree, maybe next time ;)
@@itachiaurion3198 5,000 bby. Palpatine had control over the Senate. And what Sith? Yoda was on the decline at this point. Just say…
It ok too debate. And I don’t mind a difference of opinion. The back and forth forces me to make my claim in the open and examine whether the conception in my head has some merit or not, or if I’m just a fool and should consider the changing my view or to soften my stance. Sometimes I’m just wrong. Too often, I miss the point and just ramble. Other times I know I’m right, or at least have a piece of the puzzle that others are missing. If any of that gibberish made sense.
@@itachiaurion3198 you proved OP's point. Palpatine had already won and after realizing that there was a possibility that he or Vader MIGHT die, decided to leave. The only way Yoda wins is by killing him. Palpatine just has to repel Yoda to win
Ataru’s biggest weakness is in enclosed areas. It cuts off the user of much needed space for acrobatic abilities and ferocity. Sidious was hoping to either lore Master Yoda into a trap or keep the grandmaster away from him by not following him into the corridor and come up with another tactical move.
I believed it was because when he suggested to Mace Windu that Windu was the better fighter over Yoda. Mace rejected this though and since Sidious lost to Mace he feared how powerful Yoda could be.
I had always thought that Sidious had an inkling of a premonition of danger to Vader, and he didn't want to get locked into a duel with Yoda while the crown jewel of his grand scheme could be at risk. I realize that this is incorrect though because his premonition of Vader's danger does come later, after the duel with Yoda.
The novel version of Revenge of the Sith; Sidious actually warns Anakin he senses Anakin is in danger before Kenobi arrives on Mustafar and Yoda arrives at the Senate building.
That was my interpretation as well. I could have sworn he said that he sensed Darth Vader was in danger right before Yoda showed up. I'll have to watch it again.
Although alot of your videos have become kinda obvious. You still make them Entertaing and thats why I keep coming back.
By standing at the edge of the pod wihle the force lightning exploded, it sent him flying while Sidius fell inside the pod, allowing Sidius to scape as previously intended.
In the novelization he states that the Sith had become new, and admitted defeat. From our perspective it was an equal battle, Yoda being superior with the saber while Sidius being superior with force telekinesis.
I just love how his hood never comes off, Savage
At the end,, yoda is just a frog battling a king cobra.
If the fight continued Yoda would of finished him. He just simply had more wisdom and knowledge, fighting skill.
Sidious was extremely powerful but he was not of been able to kill Yoda he was just simply to good.
The last scene of the fight was Sidious trying to blast Yoda with all his force lightning and Yoda regain his composure and gave it right back to him.
Great vid
He also lost one of his lightsabers too the Mace Windu fight this also probably made him concerned if he even was capable of defeating Yoda with just one.
Sidius also disarmed Yoda using the Force. At the end of the day, let us not forget, this was a fight to the death potentially. Rules, no rules. Who won the duel, irrelevant, moot at best. Still, I enjoyed the insight and commentary on the masters' strategies as reflected through their tactical abilities.
I was always aggravated with the scene once it went to the Senate chamber. Sidious is tossing platforms like they're peanuts and Lucas shows Yoda having to put tons of concentration and effort into taking control of one of them to slowly toss it back. It made it seem like Yoda was very overpowered in using the force.
He had to take control of it over Sidious.. it is diff than just throwing them
Sideous had high ground Yoda lower so he had to force it up just not throw it down ALOT MORE POWER IN THROWING UP VS DOWN.
It actually illustrated them perfectly. Yoda could only do one but it had massive power to it. Same as when Yoda stood his ground on the platform.
Here's an example: the alignment factor in Superhero/antihero game "Infamous."
-Attacks with dark alignment caused widespread damage to the environment, and blew away vehicles with ease.
-Conversely, where dark was a wildfire, light alignment was an amplified precision laser. It didn't cause as much destruction, but the narrow area that light attacks focused on were devestated as the finer focus amplified the hero.
It's a matter of gravity. Throw a bowling ball down a four story balcony (don't actually do this) and see how easy it is, next try to throw that same bowling ball UP four stories....you aren't doing, it is much more a show of Force to do that with any kind of authority like Yoda did. Sidious was basically taking pods of their clamps maneuvering them over yoda and letting go for gravity to do its job.
Great video and insights!
I kinda feel like yoda could take palatine anywhere anytime the force didn't want yoda to defeat palatine this was now the work of Luke to bring balance to the force same with obi wan second fight with vader he could have finished vader off he didn't he walked away
Palps was scared shitless fam
*want these hands , you do not* he knew not to play with Yoda like that
I always interpreted it that Sidious was playing his best options. If he has to fight Yoda, better in a tight space, or if he can get away, even better than that, as he has power of the Galatic Empire already.
Yoda's only play is to kill him.
In the uncut fight, Yoda win the fight (but lost the battle). In the cinema 's version, it's more subtil, nevertheless it's still the same result.
Yoda took sidious's lightning and shoved it right back up as you know what, and overpower Palpatine
Yoda used the force to cause Palp diarrhea - Palpatine was running to the bathroom...
Palpatine was laughing the whole time because Yoda underestimated Palpatine's rectum control - and they both knew this
the real question is: why wasn't Yoda also laughing? he's just way too serious
@@therearenoshortcuts9868 Palpatine wasn't laughing when Yoda shot the lightning right back at him I don't know what movie you watched
Stronger in the force than yoda? Yea idk about that. Everything fell in line for Palps. All great plans need a lil luck. And Sids had some that day.
So in Star Wars, being powerful simply means that you are good at wielding a light saber and moving objects with your mind?
Because the room they were in was too closed quarters favoring Yoda but at a distance sidious had the upper hand
hello there
General Kenobi
I don't think that it didn't matter to Sidious if he died or not. Sidious is a Sith Lord who wants the Sith to reign, but he is also the most egocentric, self-promoting and arrogant character we know. So it's clear to me that after all these plans and actions that led to this moment, where the Sith were finally superior, HE wanted to be the one that rules over the empire and gets to enjoy this perfectly executed plan and the win over the jedi order for a long time to come, not Vader. Also he knew that the remaining jedi would not only try to kill him, but Vader also, so he couldn't be sure that if he died, Vader would survive and take over (wich pretty much turned out to be true as Vader would probably have died on Mustafar if Sidious hadn't come to help and rescue him). I think the last thing he wanted was investing all this energy and effort in his plan for all those years to finally see it all become reality and then get killed by Yoda just a few hours or days in. So I would assume he actually wanted to flee from the fight. I wonder what your sources are and where you got the information to back up this theory.
Dude, awesome!so basically, if that damn podium hadn't been in the room, we would had seen the death of sideous right there. Fascinating, never saw any of that. And nope, you are absolutely right. It all fits perfectly into what is going on in the entire scene. However, I'd still be a good sith though. Not an evil one. Just not of the Jedi distortion which makes me then a sith for not being Jedi 🤷♂️
The two master fight
Yoda and Sidious are masters of all 7 lightsaber combat, but Yoda is better dualist, the are both masters of the fore Yoda in the Lightside, Sidious in the Darkside ... to stay and fight Yoda is foolish, Sidious needed to buy time for the reinforstmants to arrive, and they Yoda had to reatreet.
Nah he was scared if he was so superior he would’ve had no reason to run
He ran because from a strategy point of view it made zero sense to engage .
Judging from the duels in ROTS and Clone wars canon, both stalemated each other and were both masters of all lightsaber styles and had comparable force powers
So in which case the odds are about 50/50 that Sidious survives vs 100% survival if he flee’s
Even a trained fighter/martial artist is taught to run first and to only fight as a last resort. Why actively walk into danger if you don’t have to?
Anyone battling Yoda is at a risk of getting fucked up no matter how powerful they are
Palpatine got lucky and he knows it!!!! Yoda should have destroyed Palpatine.
Darth sidious is trying to overwhelm Yoda but also I did think sidious was being a coward before watching this video now I think the only real advantage sidious had was that he was ready psychologically
I mean last fight he had 4 masters attempt to murder him. Now he has another assassin - bro is tired. But when it came to it, all he had to do was keep yoda from using his sabre and he would win. Sidious can win without, yoda could not.
If he wanted to force him into the hallway, then why wouldn't he literally force push him into the hallway? We clearly see he could have, he threw Yoda across the room.
In fighting game terms... Sidious is a zoning character. Yoda is a rush down character. Sidious is Guile. Yoda is Cammy. Yoda is quick enough to eventually get in and maul Sidious if the fight went on too long. Its just a bad matchup for Sidious. Vader is like Alex. Best to run away and bet Vader's up close and powerful style is a better matchup against Yoda.
Another what if scenario for this duel, what if Yoda has mastered Vaapad?
Yoda much like Sidious mastered all the lightsaber forms, including Juyo, which was the base for Vaapad. Yoda taught Mace the basics of Juyo to create Vaapad. Yoda just preferred Form 4 cuz it suited his body type, and immense midichlorian count. Yoda held the advantage in Blade to Blade combat simply for his experience, Sidious had more power in the Force though due to the dark side.
He ran because he was afraid. It's that simple. Windu would have killed him if not for Anakin, and he realized when confronted by Yoda that he might have the same luck he did with Windu.
Sidious wasn't more skilled than Yoda in the force. Yoda matched and overtook him in that as well.
I don’t think he ran because he was afraid of Yoda at all… yes he was shaken by Yoda’s ability to shrug off his force lighting, and to force push him. But he was not afraid of Yoda-Sidious was terribly afraid of Obi Wan killing Darth Vader on Mustafar
He sensed lord Vader was in danger
he didn't know that until after Yoda retreated and he could gather himself.
He didn't want his wig split even if he won
Yoda BEST!
He tried to runaway because Yoda like mace windu will do what needs to be done and that's what scared him Yoda is the grand master and he runs the Jedi order and with all the Jedi dead Yoda can do away the rules of the order and can do as he pleases like kill sidious with no hesitation I mean Yoda sliced up clones with Obi-wan at the Jedi temple with no hesitation
Because he already won he won and enjoy what he has achieved he wasn’t ignorant enough not to believe he could be defeated
...Sidious was the Sith's last stand...the Sith were the ones in hiding...not the Light Side...the contest was over before it began...
is this a theory of yours or is it cannon?
I think it's really simple Sidious won and had everything to lose. Why risk a fight with the strongest Jedi in the galaxy when he could retreat to have 1000 clones back him up and guarantee a win.
My comment below is 💯. But lets make it even more SIMPLER. Most y'all saying Palp already won and didn't want to lose THAT IS A COWARD. PPL SAYING THIS HAVE NEVER BEEN IN A FIGHT MAJORITY PPL on earth Never been in fight. I've been in TONS FIGHTS. I've been in Both Situations before. As Palp having Nothing to Gain but Lose Everything, but guess what?? Dude Calls Me Out even knowing Im stronger A REAL BOUT IT BOUT IT GUY AIN'T BACKING DOWN PERIOD! You gonna fight on IF U FEAR TO LOSE THAN THAT IS THE DEFINITION OF A COWARD!! 💯👋
Because he just got his butt whipped by Windu! Had Anakin not intervened he be dead! And Yoda is the Grand Master, and he was scared! Facts! No other way to said it!
Maybe because he was the best at form 4 in history and he was as powerful in the force. They were a great match he just didn't want a possibility of loosing. He might win. Just can't take the chance. I wouldn't either. I would run too. It is pretty clear they are about equal. He always believed his force powers were stronger I kinda think that because he did win that way but by like the skin of his teeth.
Yea sid knew he couldn’t beat him in saber duel. Yoda disarmed him so he retreated to force abilities which at the end Yoda was actually close to overpowering Sid.
You mean Form 7 Juyo. Juyo is not form 4.
Juyo is form 7
A 900 year old vs a 65 year old.
Hello
Maybe Palpatine wanted to run because he couldn’t defeat Yoda
Or he was uncertain whether or not Essence Transfer would really work or if he could actually die and *not* come back in a cloned body. His political career would have been a problem for taking time out to experiment. So at this point he may not have been confident enough of survival to risk his life when he had only just achieved his lifelong goal of taking over the Republic (and the CIS).
At the time, there was no need for him to fight a green midget.
Lol that green midget disarmed him & almost killed him.
i am going to have to disagree. i have never seen that as a tactical retreat. i think that he realized fully that the only reason he lived through his fight with windu was because anakin showed up and helped him. if anakin never shows up in his office then he dies right there before order 66 is ever given. So after order 66 is given and the order is destroyed he knows when he sees yoda that this is it. he destroyed yoda's order, killed his fellow council members, slaughtered his jedi brothers and sisters, and did not even have the heart to spare the younglings from his wrath. he knew yoda was there to kill him and that first shot of lightning had everything sidious could put into it in it, and it barely fazed yoda. He knew if he fought him yoda would kill him most likely and that everything had been for nothing. honestly even when he ends up "beating" yoda he never actually beat him. the force from the build up from their attacks exploded and the emperor just had the good fortune of landing someone safe and yoda fell to the floor of the senate building, but in all reality had they both fallen that way sidious probably would have died right there. Honestly i don't even think that yoda retreated because he did not think he could beat him, but that he knew that had caused a lot of commotion in there fight and that most likely a 501st was already on there way to come and save sidious from yoda. if he had went back up to finish the fight he would have been killed by the clones so he went into hiding
I love how Sidious laughs during the fight. After *decades* of largely holding back he can finally embrace the full rush of battle with a worthy opponent - something incredibly satisfying for a Sith.
Or any true warrior in general.
I mean mace windu was also a worthy opponent
@@michaelfrazier629 fair point!
He wanted to leave because at this moment he had everything to lose and Yoda had everything to win
Lets be real! Palpatine/Sidious almost two biggest mistakes near the end of ROTS was to fight Windu and Yoda. Both almost took his life because of betrayal and bad luck.
Yeah, he was doing to much. He shouldn't have separated from Vader.
“In my book, there is no such thing as luck.”
Yoda’s loss wasn’t bad luck. It was the will of the Force.
I think Mace Windu would have killed him without Anakin interference. Imagine is Yoda and Windu went to stop him. I don’t think there is anyway he could of taken both of them.
@@sonictemple2925 you THINK that mace would have killed him if it wasn’t for Anakin? Mace was literally killing Palpatine with his own lightning. He was definitely going to kill him.
@@christianrapper he literally just said what you said 🤦🏾♂️
The old-man-falls-into-then-out-of-chair bit always made me laugh out loud. Even in the theaters. I knew it was supposed to be a "cool" moment, but me and my friends couldn't stop laughing for a full minute or two after he got thrown into the chair.
It’s pretty funny
i love how in that moment there's no VFX it's just some guy tumbling backward
Yoda mastered all forms as well, he simply preferred Form 4 as he was so powerful in the Force, it made him able to take Ataru to its peak. No matter where they fought with lightsabers, Yoda would win.
whyd he get out forced then ?
@@InfiniteMind9 He never "ran out of" Force. Where did you get that crazy idea..??? Yoda managed to disarm Sidious, and stood equally when using Force powers, but knew Sidious was just biding time for reinforcements to show up to help kill him. So, he left because he knew he needed to live to train the next generation of Jedi to help overthrow the Empire.
@@InfiniteMind9 because force ability =/= light saber skill.
Also remember Sidious was at his peak. Yoda was on his decline.
No, Yoda used Ataru because he was so small. The blinding speed and acrobatics helped transcend the limits of his small size.
@@SirJacob220 I would agree that is definitely a major factor.
Yoda knew that he was the only Jedi powerful enough to defeat Darth Sidious and Palpatine knew that.
Him and windu* windu did beat him just got barbecued after bc of anakin
Especially if you don’t count the dude that just beat him, mace
@@lafabl6503 Sidious didn’t know how truly powerful Windu was and what made him so special (Vapaad + Shatterpoint Ability).
These two powers were highly restricted and very few knew the extent of them (save for Yoda and fellow council members).
So Sidious engaged 4 Jedi Council Masters including Mace Windu confidently, killing 3 and pushing Mace Windu back. It’s only midway through the fight where Sidious realizes Windu is somehow getting stronger (thanks to Vapaad) that he starts to understand why Windu is truly Yoda’s second-in-command.
@@christianrapper the laugh and the unlimited power line implies that while he was caught off guard and lost his saber, Palpatine was 100 percent playing possum never truly beaten.
@@TK-ev no,it doesn’t. I don’t understand why people are using head canon to make Palpatine more powerful than he really was. He was powerful but people like Yoda and Mace could match him. Mace was killing him outright and Yoda tied him.
There's a bit where a younger Palpatine was something of a thrill-seeker; especially when his life wasn't yet dedicated to the Sith grand plan, and legitimate machinations to conquer the whole galaxy, he liked life or death struggles, dangerous speeder bike, and pod-racing. I like to imagine that, when fighting Yoda, he might've felt just a little bit rejuvenated, getting into a fight that could so honestly end him. I think as much as he needed to get certain obstacles out of his path, and understood hiw important it was that he survived, at least some of him was just so elated to throw aside caution, and engage with the likes of Windu, and Yoda, thrilling in the clash, and coveting the victory over his hated enemies, nor just Because they were Jedi, bur because they actually COULD endanger him, and his scheme. I know it's different than a role-playing game, where hit points can make one seem invincible; it can take so many "hits" to deplete a character of Sidious' level, but here, it really could be one hit, and it was over, and while Palpatine certainly wanted to win, I think he actually liked, in a perverse way, the feeling of risking so much on a single fight, against one of the few beings who could make him struggle to win.
You are 100% correct. Sidious stayed in hiding for so long yet remained perfectly aware of his own incredible abilities, which ultimately made him crave the opportunity to prove himself against the likes of Windu and Yoda. He's that arrogant and that emotionally insecure, like most great villains.
That's the series I'd bet all my medichlorians on that would succeed if done right and not rushed.
Agreed, and this level of thrill seeking risk is prevalent throughout canon
He liked hanging out with Yoda as chancellor because not only did he learn so much but mainly because he got a kick out of being able to fool the greatest Jedi of that era
Also one of the reasons he wanted Anakin as an apprentice was because it bought him a perverse amount of joy to know he turned the “chosen one” to the dark side… exposing himself to a troubled Anakin was a massive risk
It wasn’t a tactical retreat. It was fear. Once he realized that yoda was mom more powerful than he expected, powerful enough to launch a force push thru sidious’ force shield. He simply tried to run.
Actually the question I've always had about this scene is how did his hood stay on when he was flipped over his desk.
he has it stiched onto his head XD
He used the force. Not even lying
Honestly it never shocked me Palpatine tried to flee. He had won at that point, fighting was unnecessary. Staying alive was all he needed. Lots of people mistake villains fleeing as always being from cowardice or being weak but knowing when to fight is a useful skill. No need to fight if you have nothing to gain from it.
If the last remaining member of your main opposition, and the strongest one at that, confronts you directly, then I'd call fighting a necessity. He ran like a bitch before the fight and during the fight, and obviously underestimated Yoda in the first place if he really thought two clones could kill him while someone like Dooku couldn't.
@@mercury2157 no, fighting is a last resort, which is true for yoda, not for sidious... Ask any expert what is the best to defend against a knife, or a pistol... YOU DON'T, you always run plain and simple
@@mercury2157 as Master Vader said, almost every martial art and defense technique teaches you to avoid fighting. There is always a chance to lose. And while a case could be made for Yoda needing to be destroyed, Yoda didn’t have the resources anymore to be a threat. The Jedi relied on a massive support infrastructure to function. They had to scour the universe searching for force children as babies. The number was like 1 in 15000 babies was force sensitive, and then the parents had to be willing to part with the kid, and then after that, the kid had to be able to be trained. Yoda would of needed to either beg or constantly take side jobs for money to support him to fly around hospitals searching for babies. The order wasn’t a threat and Yoda could of spent decades looking at 100 babies a day and not of found one that could meet all the traits and complete the training.
@@Dragondan1987 you guys are both missing the point. Jedi and Sith don't follow our own rules of self defense because they quite literally don't abide by the same laws of physics, armament, and reality that we do, and considering that not only were the clones not thorough enough to take yoda out, but yoda was RIGHT IN FRONT OF SIDIOUS, fighting him is kind of a necessity because sidious was the only one who actually had a shot at taking yoda out and permanently snuffing out the order for good, which was literally the point of all of sidious' machinations in the first place. yoda might not have had "the resources to be a threat," but assuming sidious doesn't have all that crazy reincarnation/sith cloning stuff sorted out by that time, what good would all the work creating the empire be if yoda just cut sidious down without a fight? sidious DID have something to gain from fighting yoda and that was, you know, his life. obviously it worked out for the time being because yoda was eventually forced to flee.
"If so powerful you are, why leave?" That's Yoda's way of saying: you talk a lot of trash but you're really a b%#ch.
If so powerful you are. Why leave?
I think you are wrong about Sidious using the hallway as a tactical advantage. The hallway is wide enough for Yoda to bounce off the walls the same way he bounced off Dookus ship and the walls of the cavern in Attack of the Clones! The hallway would have to be extremely narrow for Sidious to prevent Yoda from hitting him from different angles sort of how Jet Li defeated the guy who primarily used kicks, leg sweeps, and high jump kicks in Kiss of the Dragon
i'd actually have to disagree with this video. when then duel starts, sidious could just have easily manuevered himself into the hallway to gain his tactical advantage anyway. i think sidious just didn't want to risk it all on a coin flip by fighting yoda.
Because he felt Vader was in trouble?Or he was knocked off guard by Yoda's power?
@@damaskholdings9140 I mean both of y'all are wrong so there is that.
@@Leviathan_Art Well please wise one enlighten us with your superior knowledge.
For me Sidious was simply doing the most logical thing. He knew he was superior to Yoda, but still recognised his power. Even when you when you are better than someone, you can still loose by chance... why risk it? He had already won. He had nothing to gain by fighting Yoda but everything to loose.
Exactly.
*lose 🙂
Superior how? Yoda disarmed him & blocked his lightning like it was nothing.
@@roc50140 Yeah I don't understand OP or people like him who willfully ignore the very obvious visual evidence on something like this. Yoda, if not stronger, was superior in almost every aspect of this duel. There is nothing to show Sidious is superior. The only reason Yoda didn't finish the job is that he lost his lightsaber and he couldn't use killing Force powers as a Jedi.
Must just be refusal based on preferring Palpatine over Yoda I guess.
@@scottb3034 sidious is still the one who won the duel, and the novel heavily implies he just was more powerful and Yoda couldn’t take him down
Sidious is so powerful that his hood stays on no matter what
You’re such a Palpatine fanboy. Of course he ran. He’s a bully and a coward and wanted no part of yoda. Windu, the B team, had him beaten. He got lucky twice and that was after his master passed out drunk which was the only reason he won that “engagement”. Like I said. A coward. Anyone can see that. Sometimes we overthink things and then make videos. Lol
Yoda also had a tactical retreat right after this. He and Sidious have a force blast that knocks yoda down to the lower part of senate chamber. He had just put a monster effort into closing the gap between them only to be pushed back. After that he decided he couldn't make the climb again and bounced. Smart decision imo.
Regardless of whether he saw himself as superior, Sidious was no fool and I'm sure he was quite aware that a battle with Yoda would be incredibly dangerous and require his full attention. Knowing Vader was in Danger made Sidious trying to escape the most logical first move. It wasn't fear, it was simply logic.
I always looked at it as he seen no purpose in fighting Yoda because he already had defeated the Jedi as a whole and there was no point in him fighting Yoda because it would only be a risk for him to lose not that he believed that he would lose but his Grand scheme has already been accomplished
Imagine Yoda just went to Sidious' office just to congratulate him and give him a box of chocolates!
Did Sidious win? Sidious shocks the light saber out of Yoda's hand but then Yoda catches Sidious's lightning with Tutaminis. At first Sidious is cackling but then his face changes to fear or shock when Yoda begins attempting to deflect Sidious's lightning back at him. There's an explosion and likely due to Yoda's smaller size he is flung backwards off the podium and falls many feet to the ground. At that point, if memory serves me, Yoda senses a group of clones approaching so he flees knowing that fighting both Sidious and the Clone's blaster fire would probably overwhelm him. So it seems to me that Yoda's and Sidious's fight was cut short before a decisive winner could be revealed.
Sith are cowards in the end. I always felt like he didn't want to take the risk of fighting Yoda after he experienced Yoda's power firsthand. His reaction to Yoda's words was also born from frustration like "we still win because we have Vader now and at least he will be stronger than you." At least that's how that scene always felt to me (and I still don't see him just trying to get an advantageous position).
Well Sidious was the only one taking things seriously. There isn't even a reason for him to fight Yoda, since he could just call a hundred clone troopers in to shoot Yoda in the face. It isn't really cowardness but just being prudent. He didn't try to run a second time.
exactly this. people always seem to ignore that rather than retort something appropriate back Sidious merely mentions Vader. It's as if Sidious is acknowledging Yoda was stronger or better by that admission.
@@Lilitha11 First of all, it absolutely IS cowardice. Second, we saw what Yoda does to squads of troopers, he had no issue dispatching them at the Jedi Temple, he'd have no issue here except that the coward Sidious would throw his weight into the fight in a heavily stacked deck against Yoda....because Sidious is a coward like that.