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  • @bthsr7113
    @bthsr7113 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +63

    The Admiral they got was actually about the best possible choice, but trying to keep the rest of the fleet in line was beyond his abilities.

    • @grimgrahamch.4157
      @grimgrahamch.4157 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      I wanna hug that guy.

    • @Th3Kingism
      @Th3Kingism 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Yeah it's sort of comically sad, he was actually a good admiral, but his sailors were basically the most pathetic bunch of Russians you could find.

    • @uteriel282
      @uteriel282 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      he was one of the most well respected men the russians ever had.
      every other major nation knew and respected his skills as a naval commander.
      but even he couldnt polish a turd into gold.

    • @rachelmap100
      @rachelmap100 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      That poor bastart...

  • @PhysicsGamer
    @PhysicsGamer 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +83

    Another channel by the name of Drachinifel has an even better coverage of this event - including a number of additional incidents like the time the fleet hid from its own reinforcements. The reinforcements were called, quote, "the sink by themselves squadron".
    Drachinifel also has a truly phenomenal video on the Mark 14 Torpedo, which is somehow arguably an even bigger mess.

    • @lieutenant2463
      @lieutenant2463 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      the Mark 14 torpedo is fine and has absolutely no flaws - U.S. Department of Ordnance

    • @PhysicsGamer
      @PhysicsGamer 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      @@lieutenant2463 I'm genuinely not sure how you can be asked to work on something named the "Mark 6 Exploder" and _not_ take pride in what you're working on... but clearly whoever it wasn't didn't!

    • @firestorm165
      @firestorm165 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      The Empire of Japan would like to thank the US Bureau Of Ordinance for their assistance in their early war effort

    • @jordanpeterson5140
      @jordanpeterson5140 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ​@@lieutenant2463flaws in the Mk. 14 are as common as the war in Ba Sing Se.

    • @hyptro
      @hyptro 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      As soon as I saw the title I came in ready to post about Drach's video. Highly recommended for anyone who finds the topic interesting.

  • @openthinker6562
    @openthinker6562 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

    Admiral Rozhestvensky was one of the most competent admirals of the Russian Navy at the time, and he was genuinely a good leader who did the best he could in this extremely chaotic situation. You have to feel bad for the guy with how many idiots were around him as he was trying so hard to save the proverbial sinking ship.
    Interestingly, after the doomed engagement with the Japanese, while he was recovering from several wounds in the battle, the enemy commander, Admiral Togo Heihachiro, actually went to visit Rozhestvensky and went to reassure him as an honorable combatant, saying:
    “Defeat is a common fate of a soldier. There is nothing to be ashamed of in it. The great point is whether we have performed our duty. You performed your great duty heroically until you were incapacitated. I pay you my highest respects.”

  • @Registered_Simp
    @Registered_Simp 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    PLEASE do a full react of this using Drachinifel's vids covering the voyage to and eventual battle of Tsushima by the 2nd Pacific Squadron. The shenanigans are just... spectacular. It's that kinda voyage where the phrase "And then it got worse" is a persistent theme. Poor Admiral Rozhestvensky. Bro must have felt like he aged 20 years in that voyage. The vids are long but well worth it.
    History of Everything's (not the podcast) "The Russian Navy Sucks" series is also a worthy contender. Especially the episodes talking about Kuznetsov or the uh... Sweden incident...

    • @Arthion
      @Arthion 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Given that Nebogatov outlived him by over a decade, it just might have aged him 20 yrs

    • @bthsr7113
      @bthsr7113 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Coal dust, blood pressure, battle injuries when they actually got to face actual Japanese ships, stress, the Kamchatka... oh yeah, this voyage would have done very... fascinating things to his body and mind.

    • @Registered_Simp
      @Registered_Simp 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@bthsr7113 Kamchatka doing allot of heavy lifting on that deteriorating mental state. So much it makes me wonder if this was a Japanese psy-op all along XD

  • @Niper777
    @Niper777 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    This video from BlueJay is the best one so far.

  • @firestorm165
    @firestorm165 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Ok now that you've gotten the primer you absolutely 100% have to look at Drachinfel's vid on the subject, Blue Jay here has only scratched the surface of the shenanigans they got up to
    Including but not limited to: the admiral commandeering a casemate gun to hurl shells at an icebreaker that was being handled like a drunk walrus and refused to obey orders to stop where they were

  • @dagonofthedepths
    @dagonofthedepths 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    To be fair to Rozhestvensky and the whole misadventure, the Russian army was filled with yes men and people hired out of nepotism. So, most of the men under his command were laughably incompetent. He himself was a no nonsense experienced leader but because of rank being more about who you know than any skill he had trouble controlling other ships. I think the main measure of the man was after the Battle of Tsushima, he's enemy was impressed by his bravery enough to consoled him and during his court martial, he was honorable enough to take full responsibility for surrendering to the enemy even though he was injured and knocked unconscious during the first day of battle. Admiral Nikolai Nebogatov was the man that gave the order, but Rozhestvensky was willing to take the fall.

    • @itskyansaro
      @itskyansaro 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Russia hasn't really changed

  • @RaderizDorret
    @RaderizDorret 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    The Tsar ordered the Baltic Fleet to go because that was either that or surrender the port without trying to take it back. And, yes, this is the same Tsar who would be ousted by Lenin 12 years later.

    • @bthsr7113
      @bthsr7113 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      In fact, losing this war helped lead to that revolution because people got dissatisfied with the Tsar messing things up.

  • @user-yk6zn9fi8r
    @user-yk6zn9fi8r 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    "History of Everything" has a series on how dumb the Russian navy was and still is for anyone intrested

  • @kazekamiha
    @kazekamiha 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The British: Lions Led by Donkeys
    Russian Baltic Fleet: A lone lion facepalming at jackasses.

  • @patbracken
    @patbracken 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +40

    In fairness to the Russians, the Brits were allied with the Japanese at this time and were selling warships from their yards. The fear was that Japanese ships might loiter around Britain after being claimed, specifically to attack the Russian navy. So the idea of running into Japanese warships in the North Sea wasn't quite as ridiculous as it sounds, and the fact that they'd be indistinguishable from British ships probably fed Russian paranoia.

    • @Kamonohashiii
      @Kamonohashiii 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      You can be cautious but not to the point of being paranoia like them. And then strategically, there is no point for the Japanese to be in Europe to fight Russia. The Japanese Navy is an emerging power at this date. They absolutely couldnt afford to send them that far. All powerful countries knew it. The Russians were only paranoia.

    • @razier5299
      @razier5299 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      No fairness here they were just stupid

    • @grimgrahamch.4157
      @grimgrahamch.4157 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That still sounds fucking stupid.

    • @CruelestChris
      @CruelestChris 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Battleships and cruisers, yes, not so much torpedo boats. Japan was quite capable of building those domestically.

    • @si2foo
      @si2foo 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      not really Im pretty sure britian only built 10 topedo boats in total for japan. we built there whole fleet pretty much, all the battleships, half the armoured cruisers, 2 cruisers 16 destroyers the rest being japanese and 10 torp boats. yes we built them some so did germany and france. was it likely that some would still be in europe. HELL NO. do you know the fuel range of those things it is fucking tiny. Roseventsschy was more worried about japan ambushing his fleet in the red sea which is why he went arround africa not because of the british.

  • @Dragonicus375
    @Dragonicus375 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Paws reaction to this video make it 100% more funnier and also more interesting to watch.

  • @rusler159
    @rusler159 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    The history of everything does this voyage as well and goes into more depth

    • @Ryan-jm5jp
      @Ryan-jm5jp 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Drachnifel as well.

  • @TrainBoi6095
    @TrainBoi6095 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The "Kamchatka" was the worst ship out of all the ships in their fleet
    Caused multiple false alarms and shot at Civilian German, Swedish, and French ships and the constant claims that they were being attacked by torpedoes boats when none were there to begin with
    Drachinifel summed up the story in two videos The Voyage of the Damned and The Battle of Tsushima

  • @Visavislespoir
    @Visavislespoir 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I actually did a small research paper on the Russo-Japanese War (both land and sea), and it really doesn’t get enough credit for how interesting it is. It was a David vs Goliath battle, but where David has to defeat Goliath before he can bring his full strength to bear. It was also the first showcase of WWI technology, and how inadequate the tactics of the time were.

  • @jordanpeterson5140
    @jordanpeterson5140 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Second Pacific Squadron?
    What time? It's time!
    It's! Kamchatka! Time!

  • @chaost4544
    @chaost4544 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    "But like US presidents in convertibles, not everything can be a match made in heaven."
    Years later that's still a hell of a line 🤣

  • @Kaliphissis
    @Kaliphissis 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    There is a way more detailed video on this by Drachinifel called "The Russian 2nd Pacific Squadron - Voyage of the Damned" it is way longer though and less focused on comedy elements than Blue Jays. It is also 42 min long...

    • @frozencrow8735
      @frozencrow8735 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      We aren't watching this coz we want to see documentary we watch this because comedy and short documentary element on this video

    • @Kaliphissis
      @Kaliphissis 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@frozencrow8735 Oh i know, i just wanted to put the info out for people who might want more info on the event. This wasn't supposed to critique the pick of watching this video or a request for her to subject herself to a 42 min documentary...

    • @frozencrow8735
      @frozencrow8735 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @xeniaaa_ ah, sorry if my comment sounded a bit offensive. It wasn't my intention.

    • @Kaliphissis
      @Kaliphissis 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@frozencrow8735 You're good, I understood what you meant to say.

  • @idanchen4934
    @idanchen4934 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    3:29 - LOL DEI but 100 years ago kek

  • @daviddomingo8846
    @daviddomingo8846 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Paws confusion throughout the whole video was hilarious 🤣

  • @skootmeister3994
    @skootmeister3994 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You know what the horrifying part is? This isn’t a one off of history. Russia has always had a poor history of naval endeavors. History of Everything has a playlist that examines several instances and examples including the Baltic Fleet.

  • @pakboris2268
    @pakboris2268 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    10:43 If I remember correctly, King himself proposed. Not like he was ever good in this

  • @Painkiller040
    @Painkiller040 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Paws reactions gives me life👌

  • @ndr2q
    @ndr2q 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Hope you had a good birthday Paws! ❤

  • @commedertoast9335
    @commedertoast9335 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    You should react to dj peach cobbler

  • @alaxbird4954
    @alaxbird4954 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Okay apparently this voyage was even more of a shitshow than i was aware of

  • @natjozsa695
    @natjozsa695 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Happy birthday paws.

  • @sueflewelling3657
    @sueflewelling3657 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great video paw

  • @oliversherman2414
    @oliversherman2414 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Please react to more Blue Jay!

  • @Lost-in-thought940
    @Lost-in-thought940 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Oh yeah… this war…

  • @natjozsa695
    @natjozsa695 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This isnt even the worst part about It

  • @michaelredford5389
    @michaelredford5389 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    If you're after another video on Russian Naval incompetence... would recommend: th-cam.com/video/ucDZ2MxubeQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=pegKXiVw-nSzXU24
    This story particular, but the series as a whole is interesting. This one specifically is just really funny.

  • @dr_dave512
    @dr_dave512 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @user-666tlvo
    @user-666tlvo 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Yo wsg paw