So the 'HD Zoom' feature is actually called HD scaling in the game. I reached out to the studio head of Digital Eclipse (Mike Mika) to get some clarity on exactly what the scaling numbers are. I asked if it was 4x and the only response I got was that he liked my tweet... so make of that what you will.
for me . if i want to play a very good fighting video game. i go to SNK. for me SNK # 1 and crapcom # 2 always have been. you can see why in their games.
I already own most of the games in this collection in one form or another. I'd still download it to my PS4, however, if I could snag it for around $15. Can't justify spending any more than that when I already purchased Samurai Shodown 2019 for the most refined iteration.
Thank you for this very comprehensive review! I was wondering, the games musn't be "plain" roms, considering the presence of a "HD zoom" feature (unless it's more of a shader?) I actually own the Wii version of Samurai Shodown Anthology, and was able to extract the arranged sountrack (including the one for Samsho V, which I believe never made it to the Neogeo, meaning this soundtrack was probably introduced with the anthology). I'm curious about how the music for the Collection is stored, and if there is, maybe, a way to replace the original musics by the arranged ones, since the developers haven't put a DLC online for AST yet (and might never do)? Would you mind telling me if you can find the musics anywhere in the Steam folders, and if deleting them cuts the game silent (in which case implementing the AST should be a realistic goal)? Thank you in advance, I'm subscribing to your channel nevertheless :-) Good day!
@@goukigod That's OK, thanks for the answer. I'll buy the collection anyway, I'm just waiting for the release of the 2019 edition to see if it gets a discount for the occasion. :-)
Good review mate. I was in two minds about buying this game but after hearing it’s made by the people who made sf 30 anniversary and it’s the arcade ports. I might give it a pass. The arcade ports seem extremely hard and I’ve found that they are near impossible to play. SSF2T as specially. Would be good to get a collection where it’s the home release versions.
You can change the difficulty but yeah the arcade ports are on the hard side. I'm not an expert on NEO GEO games but the home versions of these are near identical because the AES is basically an arcade machine. So I'm not sure they would be any easier. If you're holding out for an easier version then I'd say it's safe to assume this isn't likely to happen any time soon.
Apparently, SSF2T is set to the hardest difficulty by default in the collection and there's no way to change this. The SamSho games are hard but not frustratingly so, so I wouldn't think it's as hard as that. I'd never spent much time with these games prior to playing this collection and was able to beat each game on the default difficulty without too much hassle.
goukigod nice one mate. I’ll buy it and give it ago. If it’s to hard though I’ll be back to remove my thumbs up from your video. 😂 thanks for the information mate 👍🏼
Hi! I Wonder how to acces the HD option? Or the extra resolution bonus? I have it on Nintendo switch but It's not available on the menus. Do you have to un unlock the features? Thank you! I loved the review! 🙂
So if I okay let’s say samurai showdown 1 on this collection and leave the HD zoom feature off will that still make everything look arcade perfect like the original Neo Geo MVS Version did when it like zooms out and in and stuff like that
Hello I had a question regarding this games vs mode I just got this collection for the ps4 and when I went on vs mode it won’t let me fight the cpu, when I pick my character I can’t choose my opponent it shows that player 2 has to choose its character and I’m not playing against someone else so why is this happening can you help have you experienced this problem? Would love some feedback on this thanks.
All the games are presented as they were in the arcade. V perfect isn't censored as far as I know. It is missing some animations because at the time they had hit the limited of what could be stored on an MVS cartridge.
I think unfortunately, in the 90's nothing was powerful enough or had storage to contain every game. There is a similar PS2/Wii/PSP collection released in 2009 though.
I've seen some listings on ebay today for new physicals at reasonable prices. e.g. $70 Aus. I believe it's technically out of print though so what stock is left will vanish quickly and prices are sure to rise.
I can't really answer that. Very different games. If you want to play samsho online then the latest game might be your best bet. This is great for playing with friends on the couch or for the extras.
neither they both suck ass this is not worth the price for 6 emulated roms which we learnt to do as kids i have the entire neo geo library all neatly tucked in one folder on my laptop and i will not pay that much for it they should have given us this WITH samurai shodown 2019 that would have been a nice package
You'd think so hey. Maybe the game restricts you to your own region. Normally in Australia, in other games, we do occasional get matched with Japanese players. A shame.
Actualyl the Wii PS2 anothology had a Training mode and color edit not only that but it included Samurai Shodown 6 so i prefer that collection If anyone has epilepsy i recommend the wii version because they removed the flashing to prevent seizures
Could be a licence issue I guess. Aside from that though the NEO GEO collection has significantly more content than PS2 anthology. It didn't include VI on the disc (although it was a free download at launch), but it does include V Special which has a lot of changes over vanilla V and is a superior game. You can also swap between the English (US) and Japanese ROMs, which have some differences. The visuals are much improved as well. The games aren't scaled in the PS2 anthology so unless you have a decent scaler, they won't look anywhere near as sharp. The games run better too, with no laggy inputs, drops in frame rate and almost no loading. Not to mention the huge amount of behind the scenes content on the NEO GEO collection and that every game can be played online... if you know someone else with it of course. The biggest issue with the NEO GEO collection from my point of view is the lack of a training mode which Anthology does have. Even still while it may not be 100% complete, it is by far the most complete to date.
You just had to blame the collection and devs for lack of players online. Plus VI is a game on a different system. The title on the collection clearly said "NeoGeo" therefore NeoGeo games are the only ones allowed. Not that I'm complaining because the Neo Geo Pocket Color game I'd rather play Capcom vs. SNK than Samurai Shodown Neo Geo Pocket Color and I'd rather play SoulCaliber or Tekken over the 64 and Sen games.
Strongly disagree. This collection is presented at a higher resolution than the PS2 collection. It includes both V Special and V Perfect as well as both the western and Japanese versions of each game. It has an absolute shit-ton of extra content you can’t find anywhere else and if you know someone else with it you can play online together.
If you really want to play this on a CRT you could use something like a GBS-Control to down res it to 240p. I guess the point though is that it's getting increasingly harder to play these games on the hardware they were orginlally designed for.
Incredibly detailed review. I learned everything I wanted to know. Subscribed. Keep up the good work 🙂
Awesome, thank you!
So did you buy it? It sounds weird, but i'm still on the fence. i *love* the new Samsho. :)
Yes, I bought it.
I have it here, but I didn't have time to try it out since, life stuff. But I plan to play it with friends.
So the 'HD Zoom' feature is actually called HD scaling in the game. I reached out to the studio head of Digital Eclipse (Mike Mika) to get some clarity on exactly what the scaling numbers are. I asked if it was 4x and the only response I got was that he liked my tweet... so make of that what you will.
Neo Geo has the best ratio of great games for it's small library!
Agreed. It’s particularly good for fighters
X-Men vs street fighter
In my top 10 video games of all time.
Ditto
for me . if i want to play a very good fighting video game. i go to SNK. for me SNK # 1 and crapcom # 2 always have been. you can see why in their games.
I like them both equally for different reasons
its one of the collection you never get bored of, simliar to darkstalkers
I already own most of the games in this collection in one form or another. I'd still download it to my PS4, however, if I could snag it for around $15. Can't justify spending any more than that when I already purchased Samurai Shodown 2019 for the most refined iteration.
Yeah fair enough. The games themselves offer very in the way of new features. If playing people online was a thing then I’d say get it for sure.
It's 8 bucks right now with PS Plus. 👍
Still play Samurai Shodown and Sengoku on the Original Console. It's still fun.
My life for a consolised MVS
This was helpful, thanks. Guess I'll wait for a sale to pick it up
Thank you for this very comprehensive review! I was wondering, the games musn't be "plain" roms, considering the presence of a "HD zoom" feature (unless it's more of a shader?)
I actually own the Wii version of Samurai Shodown Anthology, and was able to extract the arranged sountrack (including the one for Samsho V, which I believe never made it to the Neogeo, meaning this soundtrack was probably introduced with the anthology).
I'm curious about how the music for the Collection is stored, and if there is, maybe, a way to replace the original musics by the arranged ones, since the developers haven't put a DLC online for AST yet (and might never do)?
Would you mind telling me if you can find the musics anywhere in the Steam folders, and if deleting them cuts the game silent (in which case implementing the AST should be a realistic goal)?
Thank you in advance, I'm subscribing to your channel nevertheless :-)
Good day!
I’m sorry but I don’t know how the higher res when zoomed out works. I don’t know if the rom was modified or if it’s achieved in some other way.
@@goukigod That's OK, thanks for the answer. I'll buy the collection anyway, I'm just waiting for the release of the 2019 edition to see if it gets a discount for the occasion. :-)
Thanks for this review I'm getting it thanks to you!
Ippon!
Good review mate. I was in two minds about buying this game but after hearing it’s made by the people who made sf 30 anniversary and it’s the arcade ports. I might give it a pass. The arcade ports seem extremely hard and I’ve found that they are near impossible to play. SSF2T as specially. Would be good to get a collection where it’s the home release versions.
You can change the difficulty but yeah the arcade ports are on the hard side. I'm not an expert on NEO GEO games but the home versions of these are near identical because the AES is basically an arcade machine. So I'm not sure they would be any easier. If you're holding out for an easier version then I'd say it's safe to assume this isn't likely to happen any time soon.
goukigod would you say it’s SSF2T hard or it’s actually possible to complete the game with each character.
Apparently, SSF2T is set to the hardest difficulty by default in the collection and there's no way to change this. The SamSho games are hard but not frustratingly so, so I wouldn't think it's as hard as that. I'd never spent much time with these games prior to playing this collection and was able to beat each game on the default difficulty without too much hassle.
goukigod nice one mate. I’ll buy it and give it ago. If it’s to hard though I’ll be back to remove my thumbs up from your video. 😂 thanks for the information mate 👍🏼
ha, ok!
Hi! I Wonder how to acces the HD option? Or the extra resolution bonus? I have it on Nintendo switch but It's not available on the menus. Do you have to un unlock the features? Thank you! I loved the review! 🙂
Unfortunately the Switch doesn’t have that option because of how much processing power it demands.
@ 1:44 Power, Brother! xD (Not fer nuthin' but Mahvel 3 is back in release and it's on sale for $8 right now.)
So if I okay let’s say samurai showdown 1 on this collection and leave the HD zoom feature off will that still make everything look arcade perfect like the original Neo Geo MVS Version did when it like zooms out and in and stuff like that
Correct. They’re presented as they were in the arcade. The scaling feature only prevents pixels being dropped when it zooms out.
@@goukigod yo thanks my man I hella appreciate it ☺️
How do I view the special moves list? It's greyed out in the game for some reason. Thanks in advance.
Wait sorry you mean each game of the collection doesn’t have an option settings to see every move attack of every charter??
Hello I had a question regarding this games vs mode I just got this collection for the ps4 and when I went on vs mode it won’t let me fight the cpu, when I pick my character I can’t choose my opponent it shows that player 2 has to choose its character and I’m not playing against someone else so why is this happening can you help have you experienced this problem? Would love some feedback on this thanks.
If you buy the game do you get samsho6 free?
It was free at launch, not sure about now sorry
Is every game in the collection censored or just 5 perfect?
All the games are presented as they were in the arcade. V perfect isn't censored as far as I know. It is missing some animations because at the time they had hit the limited of what could be stored on an MVS cartridge.
Does this have colour edit mode??
No. That would have been cool though. I remember making all kinds of waking character variants in SNK VS Capcom 2 on PS2
If this collection launched back in the 90s people would have lost their lives tbh ..
I think unfortunately, in the 90's nothing was powerful enough or had storage to contain every game. There is a similar PS2/Wii/PSP collection released in 2009 though.
I want it but the digital version is very expensive and the physical version doesn't exist any more.
I've seen some listings on ebay today for new physicals at reasonable prices. e.g. $70 Aus. I believe it's technically out of print though so what stock is left will vanish quickly and prices are sure to rise.
@@goukigod Luckily, the 6th game is on sale right now! Very, very cheap.
An incomplete collection were ss6?
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@@goukigod still incomplete not on the cd like the anthology ps2 and wii version .....
Is it playable on the PS5?
Yes. There isn't a next-gen upgrade but it works perfectly on PS5.
It sucks no 1 plays online im an expert player should i buy this or soul caliber 6
I can't really answer that. Very different games. If you want to play samsho online then the latest game might be your best bet. This is great for playing with friends on the couch or for the extras.
@@goukigod saw it on sale for 20 bucks not quite what i expected but its samurai showdown so.oh well and no online its dead
neither they both suck ass this is not worth the price for 6 emulated roms which we learnt to do as kids i have the entire neo geo library all neatly tucked in one folder on my laptop and i will not pay that much for it they should have given us this WITH samurai shodown 2019 that would have been a nice package
@@goukigod soul calibur 6 is ass you could at least tell him that.....you know its ass
home emulation illegal blah blah blah
you want to fill up the screen why wouldn‘t
Because I'm a purist.
Sound tracks arranged no
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Who is still trying to play this game online besides me? Anytime I throw it on, NO ONE is ever playing any games online. Lmk who plays online on ps4
I have never found anyone online
@@goukigod wonder why? You'd think someone in japan would be playing
You'd think so hey. Maybe the game restricts you to your own region. Normally in Australia, in other games, we do occasional get matched with Japanese players. A shame.
@@goukigod appreciate the info. I'll try after work tonight
I play them on an emulator. Needs scan lines..
The scan line feature isn’t bad for what it is. Not my bag though.
Neo Geo collections always have some great scanlines.
Actualyl the Wii PS2 anothology had a Training mode and color edit
not only that but it included Samurai Shodown 6 so i prefer that collection
If anyone has epilepsy i recommend the wii version because they removed the flashing to prevent seizures
Doesn't the Wii Anthology also have a motion-controlled mini-game?
@@goukigod Yes it does! it also supports Wiimote, Wiimotre Nunchuck and Classic Controller support
Not definitive because it doesn't have the arranged soundtrack or SSVI.
The PS2 Anthology was better even without V Perfect.
Could be a licence issue I guess. Aside from that though the NEO GEO collection has significantly more content than PS2 anthology. It didn't include VI on the disc (although it was a free download at launch), but it does include V Special which has a lot of changes over vanilla V and is a superior game. You can also swap between the English (US) and Japanese ROMs, which have some differences. The visuals are much improved as well. The games aren't scaled in the PS2 anthology so unless you have a decent scaler, they won't look anywhere near as sharp. The games run better too, with no laggy inputs, drops in frame rate and almost no loading. Not to mention the huge amount of behind the scenes content on the NEO GEO collection and that every game can be played online... if you know someone else with it of course.
The biggest issue with the NEO GEO collection from my point of view is the lack of a training mode which Anthology does have. Even still while it may not be 100% complete, it is by far the most complete to date.
You just had to blame the collection and devs for lack of players online. Plus VI is a game on a different system. The title on the collection clearly said "NeoGeo" therefore NeoGeo games are the only ones allowed. Not that I'm complaining because the Neo Geo Pocket Color game I'd rather play Capcom vs. SNK than Samurai Shodown Neo Geo Pocket Color and I'd rather play SoulCaliber or Tekken over the 64 and Sen games.
I didn’t blame anyone for the lack of players online. I just said it doesn’t have an online community
Is it just me or does “samsho” sound cringey?
Could just be you
@@goukigod I think its 50/50
Yeah probably
The game doesn't even have practice mode which was in the ps2 version years ago. This game is only good for ssv special, otherwise it sucks.
Strongly disagree. This collection is presented at a higher resolution than the PS2 collection. It includes both V Special and V Perfect as well as both the western and Japanese versions of each game. It has an absolute shit-ton of extra content you can’t find anywhere else and if you know someone else with it you can play online together.
4 is hype too
Ouch ....you got served
I hate these remasters. All these games were made for scanlines of a CRT.
If you really want to play this on a CRT you could use something like a GBS-Control to down res it to 240p.
I guess the point though is that it's getting increasingly harder to play these games on the hardware they were orginlally designed for.
@@goukigod lol I own a crt console
@@bigron8896 don’t buy it if you hate it. Simple.