@@rustboymusic I’m honestly considering doing exactly this. Selling my Summit and some of my other gear to fund a prophet 10 or polybrute ... so many options
@@MilesAwayOfficial I was really surprised how good prologue hold it's own against ob-6. For me Summit is very... hm... kind of static... but this is for sure a personal thing.
You Nailed it when you said, “the prologue is one of the most underrated synths on the market”. I would guess that Korg thought they had a hit product on their hands and were downright cocky about thier design, only to see it inexplicably ignored and/or dismissed. I have owned around 40 synths abd samplers and I’ve sold so many. The prologue is my “to-the-grave” synth. The OB-6 is damn special too!
I think some people like me thought it was just a glorified Minilogue... I did until recently. I tried the keybed* for a second nd was surprised that it had a very nice feel so I went and find out more about it via of that. *The synth wasn’t even plugged
Hit product lol hahah. Nobody liked it in Japan, it just stayed on the shelves here like every other recent KORG synth. There's a running joke here about it, that started during the Tokyo demo. Basically the KORG team were there with the other brands and it was very busy (pre-pandemic!). Roland/Yamaha had done their thing (other brands too) but there was no sign of Prologue which wasn't expected. Turned out the unit they brought had the tuning fault.They tried another but ended up having a demonstration musician who had to use another companies product instead due to the time slot. So we started calling it, Tsumari! ('in other words') because it's a synth that can be replaced by any other brand - and that will always be better than this shitbox. Prologue has a passible sound. So does an upturned bucket in the right hands lol. Get a musical clue. Use something else. In the synth world modularity + maximal expression is key. That's why you'll see people hyping native aftertouch on hydra (even though many of them don't know how to use it). Many times you won't need a feature. Simple works too. But if you are entering the synth world of specs and LFO's more is....well. More. That and it's really nice if it actually works haha. In a culture where quality and money are premium? You never buy a feature limited product when many others exist with equivalent or better features for a similar price. That just makes you an idiot. Prologue will be remembered more as a meme by Japan. But enjoy whatever you like. It was a failure =P and cost the company alot. Just ask their engineers.
Agreed. Have a prologue 16 too. Underrated machine; If you see for example what the hybrid engine adds and for this price range... it's insane; People pay 3 or 4 times more for prophets or oberheims with less sound design options; I love those synths too; I have a REV2 as well and love it. It's just the new OBX8 e.g. is seriously overpriced and clearly trying to milk its Oberheim name without being that wow imo. Call me a whinger but the many comparisons on TH-cam with the new OBX8 vs the old OBXa, and I feel the old model still has more oomph on many sounds.... No offense...
Yes, I would love to see a more in depth comparison of the two - not because one wins or loses - both are incredibly useful for what they do depending on what track you're laying down, etc.
I have both, theyre both solid 80s tone machines. Prologue is a great synth, its very simple but it covers many synth basics very well. Ob6 is honestly miles ahead in all respects but the price reflects that. Theres some overlap in raw osc and filter but once the envelopes are in play the ob6 is a winner. Also the harmonic distribution is the key difference, you can isolate any frequency range on the ob6 and its always musical, not so on the prologue that requires knowing sweet spots. The effects on the prologue are the best ive heard on a synth.
That's a great analysis! I agree 100% with what you said here. The sweet spot on the OB6 (and on vintage Oberheims) is just so ridiculously big, it's very hard to make it sound bad. Prologue and most other modern synths you do have to work a bit to find em. But the FX rock! Thanks for watching and check out my Custom Presets for both OB6 and Prologue :)
Sound very similar. Interesting comparison. I have 2 MInilogue XD's slaved together for 8 voices. And honestly love them. 8 voices is fine. The digital osc gives you more timbre to work with. Add the EFX. Super easy to program. Agree, the Korg analog does the trick. It's very up front if you want it to be. Very analog.
Ob 6 has one of the best sounding notch filters , just behind the original SEM modules. Having said that the Prologue stands up as great sounding synth. Its just different and very Korg.
I judge a synth on how much does it move me. Are the sounds makin me emotional? And the korg does that. I have the ob6 and while it sounds great, the prologue does too. My 9nly question to decide is, do i need them both?
I met a guy last week (bought his Deluge off him) that said he had an OB-6 but couldnt stop it from sounding like the 80's no matter what he did........... I told him that's why its great........ he shooed me away quickly once I handed the cash over for the Deluge....... Even if its when I retire I will own an OB-6 lush machine ! ( I have a rev2 and its a beast! but it simply cant replicate/match that SEM filter) neither can the prologue!
@@MilesAwayOfficial Disagree. You can make an OB-6 sound 80s as a musician, or you can bring your own baggage from the 80s (I know young people that don't think the OB-6 sounds like the 80s because they're born around 2005 - 2010). It's a synth from 2016, not 1986 - it's not hard to NOT sound like the 80s with an OB-6. Similarly, a Moog can be played in modern music without it sounding like it's stuck in the 1970s, unless you play it like you're making music in the 1970s.
@@MilesAwayOfficial Definitely will, but with mixed feelings as it is out of reach right now. Thus the goal of getting an OB-6 for that gorgeous Oberheim sound. 🫠👍
Really Cool! I've got the Korg Minilogue XD alongside my OB6 which has almost the same Soundengine as the Prologue (not in all aspects but worth the purchase!) to ad the Korg tamber to my mixes. There definitely are some similarities but in the end they complement each other very good. Its easy to add "a glimpse of the future" to a vintage analog Production with the Korg. Love it!
Great comparison. Helped me make up mind (can't afford both, at the moment). They both sound great, but the OB-6 filter is something I just can't do without. I do think it's a tough call and a very worthy comparison. Nice work. Thanks!
Well said! Late reply but you really can't go wrong with either. Prologues can be found for pretty cheap used sometimes too though which is a great deal, very underrated keyboard.
Great comparison video Miles Away. You really did a great job here. Both synths are amazing poly synths. What the Prologue can do with a minimum amount of menu diving is incredible. What the Sequential synths are great at and what the Prologue is great at IMO means that they are all great. It all depends on what you want to use them for and if you can accept each of their limitations? The voice stealing is what stopped me from getting a Prophet-6 a couple of years ago. I love how it sounds but the 6 voice limitation was disappointing because I was spoilt by the Prologue. Now that there is a Prophet 10 out I was tempted again by the latest Prophet but in these times where my music income has been affected drastically with no income from shows, the P10 is out of my reach and the Prologue does such a great job that it effectively puts out my interest in other modern poly synths.
Late reply but I totally agree - the fact that the Prologue is still slept on despite being the only 16 Voice VCO poly under $2k is mind blowing. Modern cult classic!
Hey, great videos!! There is really no way to choose one synth from another when it come to analog poly synths. I've been a VCO engineer for decades and the circuitry is almost identical in all of these synths. You can basically create the same patch on most analog synths, even DCO based architecture. The filters and amps are the same way. If you know your way around an oscillator, filter and amplifier circuit, you don't need a real expensive synth to achieve the same sounds. The price difference is in all the buzzers and whistles usually and how much you want the synth to remember after creating a sound. That said, I am an addict anyway. I have everything under the sun including these and the rest of what Sequential, Moog, Waldorf, Roland, Behringer, Arturia, Oberheim etc have made in the past present and future pre-orders. Needless to say I still can't get enough. It's not the this vs that scenario for me, it's what genius editing the manufacturer has done to design the different sounds into the factory presets. There are an infinite amount of sounds you can get out of any similar synthesizer so even something as low priced like the Deepmind 12 or Prologue 8 voice, I can get to sound like an 8 voice Oberheim. If you get the 16 voice Prologue you get a bit more low end. Most of the newer synths have the sub oscillators to bring up the bass plus more gain on the amps. The Prophet 10 is a great synth and also has low end but may not have as much as a newer circuit design because it was designed as a reissue so the CEM chips are the same. These chips are also in the old Oberheims which may be a consideration for Sequential to reissue an OBXa. Still the output of those synths do not match the power of my Andromeda A6 or my current venture tricked out a Omega 8 Code with full options. Anyway, thanks for doing the videos, they are very informative! Cheers!
Hey Rix, I have a question about the low end on a Prologue 16 vs the 8. I understand the LF comp makes a difference, but do you think the same thing (or really close) could be achieved with a good compressor like the EHX Black Finger and/or a crossover with bi-amp setup? Mainly for live use of course, I'm assuming DAW options like multiband comp would be able to approximate the effect of the 16's low end comp pretty well on tracks. I found an 8 for a decent deal locally, can't decide if it's worth another $600 for the 16 (cheapest I can find one for used) when my playing style/genre wouldn't benefit from the extra voices
after seeing this video i really love the proloque so much more, they are both unique , and those user ocilators in the korg makes it so special, for the retro smooth creamy sound the ob6 is so good , best to buy them both like u did
This is an epic comparison video, you did a great job showcasing the strengths of each synth. That multimode filter is a killer, hands down, but I'm curious if there are any 'Logue User Fx that can come close to some of the bandpass/notch/highpass shenanigans of the OB-6.
Thx for watching! Good question dude - I know the Dirtbox Synth filters are solid for extra LP/HP/BP but the resonance on them is pretty.. meh. I would 100% pay for a great sounding User FX filter that emulated the SEM sound!
Thanks for the comparison! The Prologue lured me, since I've had a Minilogue XD and sent it back. I loved the sound, but couldn't get along with the small keys and 4-voices. Well, the bigger brother is simply the answer. If one doesn't need the sequencer that is.
Good choice! I fully agree with this - the XD sequencer is a bit of a loss, but you can't beat the sound of a bi-timbral 16 voice synth :) If you haven't already, check out my Custom Patches for Korg Prologue, think you would dig em!
Nice job. I know that you’re (rightly) focused on the differences, but I have to say that when I began listening to demos of the Prologue, it immediately evoked OB-6 vibes for me. At the very least, they both sound uniquely sparkly and pleasing in those high end harmonics that make pads come to life. But with it’s beefy fundamental - not _quite_ Moog beefy but getting there - I’d pick the Prologue for basses and leads. So as an all-rounder, I’d have to give the edge to the Prologue.
Totally agree here and thanks for watching! I think a lot of the similarities come down to the fact that these are the 2 only (afaik) vco Polysynths with 12db per octave filters, vs 24db. This creates that “sparkle” on pads. Agreed though the prologue is such a beast of an all arounder!
I understand the sound is very important. But what about price? In Japan, Sequential OB-6: over 500,000yen KORG prologue 16: about 200,000yen Price means nothing?
@@MilesAwayOfficial I got one here in Australia... I guess your "Miles Away" though !!! Actually its a modulation beast and can do it all except OB-6 SEM..... ahhhhh
Hey, reg filters, i am pretty sure the low pass filter on the Prologue can sound as silky (with resonance) as on the OB-6, when you dial back the VCOs to about 70%, you had them on full 1023, right? Full volume saturates the signal at the filter inputs, do you get thst growl. This is separate from the filter drive section (which also needs to be off for silkness). In regards to low pass filter expression from warm to smooth to growl to super aggressive i'd say the Prologue has way greater range. Where the OB-6 is superior, is the state variable sweeps, the cutting bandpass and. high pass
Learned another trick here ! Lfo voice unsyning on prologue , Thks superb video , the ob6 is on my list , the prologue is more 3 D tnaks to it's punchy enveloppe and transient , the ob6 is more layback and it's like some ice cream , a pure beauty ... OB6 for me is textures ... while Prologue is a more active / dynamic presence .... Thks for this video :!!:! Curious if you checked the Sequential rev 2 , its bi timbral capacity is a plus over the OB6 but man this OB6 filter modulated is a pure beauty ...
Glad you enjoyed it! Definitely agree, they compliment well. I've played a rev 2 but don't own one. Its a cool synth but the raw tone wasn't my favourite. I've got a Prophet 6 for those Dave Smith sounds :)
@@MilesAwayOfficial Tested a rev 2 and you confirm what i've found , for the price gap between rev 2 and the korg i would raver spend more and go ob6 in fact .... Did ya tried the super 6 ? it's more a lush jupiter / juno style sounding synth but really capable in sound design at the same time ...
Great video, both synths are amazing but if I had to chose I’d have to go with the Prologue. Between the 16 voices, Multi Engine and being able to layer 2 presets as well as split, plus you didn’t even use the built in compressor, I’d get so many more types of sounds. It’s pretty much like getting 4 synths in one, 2 analog synths and 2 digital synths ...kinda sorta lol. And I’ve heard you can sequence the 2 layers separately from an external sequencer? I’m definitely going to get the Prologue 16
It’s an amazing synth! All of what you said is true, just note there is no separate fx or output for the second layer, so I find for professional recording it works better as one mega synth to layer vs 2-4 separate patches!
Nice comparison vid. I accidently ended up with 2 Korg Minilogue Xd modules and poly chained them to get 8 voices. Works great and honestly I can get an amazing VCO based sound. To be fair, I am using a vintage stereo outboard EQ and compressor and some nice external effects. When processed, I wonder if I couldn't match or exceed most Analog Poly synths?
Any chance you could compare Prologue against a Prophet Rev 2 - or offer your thoughts? Seems Prologue sounds nicer but lacks the mod matrix, sequencer. It will be my only synth and on paper the answer is Rev2 (I don't care too much about after touch) but every time I hear Prologue 16 custom sounds. I'm tempted back to get the better (IMO) raw sounding Prologue....
I’ve gotten this request so many times! I really want to. Unfortunately I haven’t seen one for rent or for a good price on the used market recently. If someone ends up lending me one or I can find a great deal I will definitely do this video
Regarding SUB osc on the Prologue. Actually you don't have to sacrifice any of the 2+1 osc for that. If you set the prologue in "mono" voice mode and then turn the "voice mode depth" up you get a sub =)
Totally! if you are happy with mono! I mean that for a poly patch you have to give up one oscillator to get a sub osc in poly mode. Thanks for watching! :)
Thank you for this I have the Prolouge 8 and love the sound thinking about gettin OB desktop. Can you name some tutorials to learn more about the Prolouge? Thanks
was just about to list my pro 16 for sale, man i pulled down that listing quick! i defo need to spend more time also check out the digital multi mode filters for the Korg it really opens up this synth further
sorry this one I just made for this video, but you would like my song Void Drifting it is very similar! open.spotify.com/track/73nPEE8hhJBM4HnkKs3gRQ?si=53bb917210b94bf5
I've owned both, prefer the P16 by far.. just sounds a lot nicer and is a lot quicker to make it sound good. Sold the rev2 kept the Prologue, (have a Prophet 10 r4 for my prophet needs and the OB-6 covers the rest)
the OB6 sounds great but the Prologue is no slouch. Prologue has such a great sound for a modern synth, highly underrated. If they come out with a Prologue xd, with expanded filter section, mod section, lfo, Fx's, digital osc and a touch keys style keybed or some sort of extended expression control, I would buy it in a second. However they have to keep the sound, no matter what creative bells and whistles they throw at a Prologue 2, it has to have the sound it has right now or no bueno.
Agreed, I'd be all over a Prologue XD, that sounds like honestly the perfect synth, as long as they add a 4 pole filter option! For the OB6, I actually just posted an update to this review, check it out on my channel if you wanna hear more for another opinion!
@@MilesAwayOfficial Filter section has real analog options and then expanded digital options from the opsix/ modwave library. the ability to have two filters at once like the polybrute would be nice too. I am taking a digital/ analog hybrid that has no compromise and is mpe ready with some sort of expression system in the keybed. A synth to end all synths.
Nice comparison. I struggle to wade through the typical oscillator/oscilloscope comparisons. Really, how much does it matter? Do you have any thoughts on the Prologue vs the Miniilogue XD?
That’s a hard question. If I had to pick only one synth, it will be the summit, But I’m lucky enough to have quite a collection and I find that I don’t use the summit as much as I used to because it’s very much a Chameleon. I really like synths with lots of unique character like the prologue
Hello Miles, I was wondering do you know how much of a difference between a Prologue 8 and Prologue 16? I’m thinking of getting one yet I have only small space left for synths and Prologue 8 is more ideal, but then watching this video made me reconsider further haha.
Hey! Thanks for watching, I've got a couple other videos on the Prologue you should check out on my channel too, but basically the biggest difference besides more voices is the analog low frequency compressor. It's really really nice and I must confess I leave it on most of the time for extra warmth, but it's not a dealbreaker, you can totally get away with Prologue 8 :)
actually... i think the Prologue sounds more fat and detailed much of the time. And i know it cannot do as many tricks as the OB6 but the overall sound is just better ... deeper and more detailed. More alive maybe and more majestic like a Jupiter. The OB6 is a great synth and overall can make more sounds but the sounds itself are not as great as the Prologue (at least to my ears on my Sennheiser HD650 headphones and Yamaha HS8 monitors)
Hey! I did a whole video on this. The Prologue grabs me more with its sound, but the Summit is WAY more versatile. If I could only pick one as my only synth, I'd have to say Summit, but if you already have other synths, Prologue has more character.
@@MilesAwayOfficial thanks. I watched your video on both. It was great and informative, but you didn’t totally commit to which one you preferred. You gave a balanced assessment of each one’s best and worst points. I suppose it depends on what you are looking for. The one thing I find disappointing about the Prologue is it doesn’t have an audio input. It’s a shame. Thanks for your assessment. I think I agree. The Prologue certainly sounds stellar, so does the Summit, which as you say, seems greater overall package
Doesn’t the Pro’s resonator self oscillate (where the OB-6 does not)? Would you be able to get the smoother sweeps that the OB-6 has by lowering the res on the Pro?
Hey Miles. I bought your preset pack for the Prologue. How can I see the presets individually so I can add them to my preexisting library instead of having to have change libraries to use your sounds? Thanks.
Hey! Thanks for purchasing! The way the Prologue works it needs a 3rd party editor to manage individual patches out of sets. Look up the one from Dominique Bontemps as a start, I haven’t used one myself but that one I’ve heard is pretty good
When you open a library set with the Prologue Librarian software, it doesn't send it to the hardware until you click 'Send' or 'Send All' under 'Programs' at the top of the software window. But if you open a set that isn't loaded to the hardware, you can't see which program slots are empty in the hardware. So you need to write down the empty program numbers you want to load individual programs to. Then open the new library. Place the programs you want to send to the prologue in the program number position you want them to be by dragging into position or copy-paste (don't save the software library, or save a new version after reordering the programs). Then select the programs you want to send to the hardware storage drive (shift click or ctrl click for multiples) and click 'SEND' under 'Programs'. That will send just the selected programs to the numbers they are currently in. Before doing any of this you should back up your existing library and save in the computer. Also, user oscillators, FX, are not saved in the library software!! Also if you remove a user oscillator, the program can't remember settings from that oscillator. So even if you put the user osc back in the synth hard drive, it will load up with default settings of the user osc. I discovered this the hard way 😐
When you discuss the square and triangle wave at around 6 minutes in, I just don’t hear much difference. Is that because after TH-cam upload / download the difference is gone, or is that because my ears are bad? In other words, if you do the comparison again by playing the TH-cam video, do you still hear the difference?
Great question. TH-cam compression definitely makes it less of a difference but the difference is definitely still there, It will be more apparent if you are listening on a hi-fi stereo or set of headphones with good bass response. To my ears the OB6 square wave sounds much richer in the low end! But it’s all subjective end of day. Thx for watching!
@@MilesAwayOfficial I used AKG K92 headphones. I think it does have a bit of a neutral profile, not too much bass. So maybe it is easier to hear on one of the many headphones that emphasize bass. I’ll try again later with a different one. But my ears are not in the best condition, so it could also be the case that I just can’t hear it. I do hear the differences in the filter character quite well.
@@jantuitman yea I think the difference is most apparent in the low end so that’s probably it if you aren’t using nearfield monitors! Thanks so much for watching Jan :)
I looking at one of these for pads but will have male vocals on it. The OB6 sounds great but huge. Do you think it takes up to much of space in a mix for vocals?
hey! Ob-6 is quite easy to mix in with vocals, its nowhere near as low mid/low end heavy as something like a Moog. My song BACK TO SLEEP is all done with the OB-6, give it a listen to see: th-cam.com/video/RIg5Bjb3O_s/w-d-xo.html
@@MilesAwayOfficial This video and the demo by Daniel Fisher is awesome, Just bought the Prologue 8. The 16 is sold out almost everywhere, chip shortage they say.
I've had both (at the same time), sold both... prefer the OB-6 slightly tonally but liked the 5 octaves and some of the extras of the Prologue, can't go wrong with either. I always said you could get the prologue close to copying many OB-6 sounds, glad to see a video proving that. The OB-6 did have a slightly more raw sound, and the Prologue slightly more rounded (like Roland). Emotionally I connected with the OB-6 a bit more but the Prologue is no slouch. Replaced them with a Prophet 10 rev 4 (obviously different but I don't like having too many synths at once - these days and wanted a 4 pole filter back in my main analog poly), just that and a subsequent 37 for now.
Totally agree with your comparison! And man, I want a P10 so bad. I keep toying with the idea of selling a couple of my synths to fund one. Any regrets?
The OB6 filter is great, but it sound really generic in comparison with the growly, distorted one in the Prologue. As for the oscillators, the OB6 sounds really buzzy, bright. Even the triangle has lots of buzz. This makes the OB6 sound a bit less "dimensional" in comparison to Prologue. If OB6 sounds like an open palm slap, the Prologue sounds like a fist punch. However, the Prologue's harder character lends itself less to chord playing. Just my observation. Both sound great in their own right.
Great overview! Totally agree here. Both are amazing flavours to have. If you haven’t, check out my recent 3 year later review of the Prologue. It’s still a keeper!
Had Korg made a desktop Prologue i would have bought a 16 voice one ages ago, however I now after 2 years have both the Pro 6 and OB6 desktop versions, and consequently I am unwilling to spend more money.
@@MilesAwayOfficial It sounds lovely, despite the similarities with the OB6 the PRO 6 has enough of a different flavour to make it worth the investment, in my opinion that is.
Hey man, love your channel. I have an ob-6 and I love it. I’m looking for a good 61-key poly synth to pair with it. My obv first thought was the prophet rev2.. but I’m really interested in the open source aspect of the prologue. Do you think the prologue and ob-6 are a good match? Or do you think they both cover the same territory? They both have the 12db filter so I wasn’t sure. Just curious what you think. I dig the lo-fi, nostalgic, 80’s, indie pop vibe
Hey! Late reply but that is a very good, although specific combo. Both have a 12db filter, so you will miss out on a lot of classic warm round 24db sounds. If that doesnt matter to you then 100% get the combo, they are two of the vibiest keyboards and blend together perfectly + sound vintage. BUT if you want something more versatile, consider the Summit, I have videos on it. It complements the OB really well! I'm not the biggest Rev2 fan but its good too of course.
Seems like while the ob6 can't do as much as the prologue the sounds it can do it does very well - was that even a sentence? Great work man keep it up 👍
in fact the pro16 has nearly the character of the OB-6 filters, he wins for me with multi-engine 'n' user osc. comparison with drive off, compressor off for the korg powerhouse, really? pro16 is double+ voice and half prize. but when money doesn't play a role i go for 8voice schmidt's. ;-)
Well the Ob-6 wins in features having a Multifilter but I was disappointed it didn't sound anything like an Oberheim. Prophet-6 is a better comparison . I had both OB6 , P6 and the Prologue and kept the Prologue of those for having a more vintage sounding LP filter and all the digital Oscs and FX you can add. Most of my patches use those Multi OSCs. Now, Polybrute kills them all but still keeping the Prologue.
Oh wow! Jealous you have a polybrute! Hard to come by where I am ! How do you like it? And what don’t you think makes the ob sound like an oberheim? I think it definitely sounds like the SEM
@@MilesAwayOfficial I expected a lot from the OB-6 as I had two old SEMS and an OB-8 and really wanted a multifilter Poly but somehow I was too let down by the OB6 and didn't even use it. The Polybrute came to Los Angeles last week and I have been blown away every day at how it does great patches sounding like an OB-X; CS-80 and MS-20; which all were discreet synths so not so much sounding like a CEM based synth (P5, OB8. XA, etc.)
@@rewiremusic4540 wow - surprised to hear that, but to each their own! and that's awesome to hear about the Polybrute. Really tempted to sell the Summit to get one. What do you think?
@@MilesAwayOfficial I had a Peak and it was OK but I found it's analog osc approximations very cold. It could have been a good hybrid had it more digital stuff. The Hydrasynth filled that digital side for me but I will sell it when the Korg Modwave comes.
@@rewiremusic4540 appreciate the insight. I've never heard of the Modwave but will check it out. My feelings with the Summit is that it's a ton of fun to make sounds on, and is great for ambient sounds, but honestly since getting the OB6 I find it has sort of made the Summit sound "muddy and cold". It's hard to explain - like getting the OB6 made the Summit's slight flaws more apparent. I don't think it's a digital thing as I just got a used Pro 2 (review incoming!) and that sounds GREAT even with digital oscs.
@@RayyMusik Small world lol. You're everywhere on the tube. Aftertouch is really going to haunt Korg. Ruined the entire board and killed sales to a shocking degree.
C’mon! We know how wins here easily. You can’t be call “Pro” with one LFO, just to begging with. And the cons list goes on. Not a bad synth but at the introduction priced it was a broad daylight robbery from #Korg
I get this a lot and I respect the opinion, but remember, the OB6/Prophet 6/Prophet 5 only have 1 LFO and are considered classics. The 80s Roland synths don't have aftertouch, etc etc. Synths are sometimes greater than the sum of their features :)
In the end prologue is mocked globally for good reason. Its a crippled joke of a synth and a waste of space in any serious studio. The features are so poor its outclassed without effort by Korgs lowest tier of 37 key instruments. Which is an embarrassment for something toted to be a flagship. Funny to see the 'one-more-lfo' gag after all these years now. Korg need to step up the cost/value and ditch the allergy to aftertouch which is a basic expectation at best.
Sorry to all the people in the comments but the Korg Prologue sounds much better to my ears. I'm not saying it's a better synth but it does sound better.
Fair ! It really sounds so good and is a criminally underrated synth. To this day I am still surprised it was such a commercial failure they discontinued it after 3 years
Who will win??
It's not like you're going to get rid of one, right? :)
@@almightyEsquilax no plans right now, but I have been tempted to sell off some gear for a Prophet 10... ;)
Both win! I would keep both and sell Summit :-)
@@rustboymusic I’m honestly considering doing exactly this. Selling my Summit and some of my other gear to fund a prophet 10 or polybrute ... so many options
@@MilesAwayOfficial I was really surprised how good prologue hold it's own against ob-6. For me Summit is very... hm... kind of static... but this is for sure a personal thing.
You Nailed it when you said, “the prologue is one of the most underrated synths on the market”. I would guess that Korg thought they had a hit product on their hands and were downright cocky about thier design, only to see it inexplicably ignored and/or dismissed.
I have owned around 40 synths abd samplers and I’ve sold so many. The prologue is my “to-the-grave” synth.
The OB-6 is damn special too!
Totally agree here! The Prologue was my first hardware synth and I'll never ever sell it. thx for watching.
Thanks I own a Prologue 8 and is a keeper, I had a minilogue XD and I sold it for the Prologue
I think some people like me thought it was just a glorified Minilogue... I did until recently.
I tried the keybed* for a second nd was surprised that it had a very nice feel so I went and find out more about it via of that.
*The synth wasn’t even plugged
Hit product lol hahah. Nobody liked it in Japan, it just stayed on the shelves here like every other recent KORG synth. There's a running joke here about it, that started during the Tokyo demo. Basically the KORG team were there with the other brands and it was very busy (pre-pandemic!). Roland/Yamaha had done their thing (other brands too) but there was no sign of Prologue which wasn't expected. Turned out the unit they brought had the tuning fault.They tried another but ended up having a demonstration musician who had to use another companies product instead due to the time slot. So we started calling it, Tsumari! ('in other words') because it's a synth that can be replaced by any other brand - and that will always be better than this shitbox.
Prologue has a passible sound. So does an upturned bucket in the right hands lol. Get a musical clue. Use something else. In the synth world modularity + maximal expression is key. That's why you'll see people hyping native aftertouch on hydra (even though many of them don't know how to use it). Many times you won't need a feature. Simple works too. But if you are entering the synth world of specs and LFO's more is....well. More. That and it's really nice if it actually works haha.
In a culture where quality and money are premium? You never buy a feature limited product when many others exist with equivalent or better features for a similar price. That just makes you an idiot. Prologue will be remembered more as a meme by Japan. But enjoy whatever you like. It was a failure =P and cost the company alot. Just ask their engineers.
Agreed. Have a prologue 16 too. Underrated machine; If you see for example what the hybrid engine adds and for this price range... it's insane; People pay 3 or 4 times more for prophets or oberheims with less sound design options; I love those synths too; I have a REV2 as well and love it. It's just the new OBX8 e.g. is seriously overpriced and clearly trying to milk its Oberheim name without being that wow imo. Call me a whinger but the many comparisons on TH-cam with the new OBX8 vs the old OBXa, and I feel the old model still has more oomph on many sounds.... No offense...
Yes, I would love to see a more in depth comparison of the two - not because one wins or loses - both are incredibly useful for what they do depending on what track you're laying down, etc.
Noted! More content will be on the way :)
Amazing articulate and to the point comparison my friend 🦾
Glad you enjoyed!
I've watched all of your ob-6 videos - all fantastic. Thanks so much for creating.
thank you so much Doug!
I have both, theyre both solid 80s tone machines. Prologue is a great synth, its very simple but it covers many synth basics very well. Ob6 is honestly miles ahead in all respects but the price reflects that. Theres some overlap in raw osc and filter but once the envelopes are in play the ob6 is a winner. Also the harmonic distribution is the key difference, you can isolate any frequency range on the ob6 and its always musical, not so on the prologue that requires knowing sweet spots. The effects on the prologue are the best ive heard on a synth.
That's a great analysis! I agree 100% with what you said here. The sweet spot on the OB6 (and on vintage Oberheims) is just so ridiculously big, it's very hard to make it sound bad. Prologue and most other modern synths you do have to work a bit to find em. But the FX rock! Thanks for watching and check out my Custom Presets for both OB6 and Prologue :)
Sound very similar. Interesting comparison. I have 2 MInilogue XD's slaved together for 8 voices. And honestly love them. 8 voices is fine. The digital osc gives you more timbre to work with. Add the EFX. Super easy to program. Agree, the Korg analog does the trick. It's very up front if you want it to be. Very analog.
That’s a really cool set up! Never experimented with poly chaining before. Thanks for watching, new synth content every Friday :)
They don’t sound similar at all in real life. I shipped the prologue back as it sounded muddy and boomy. Kept the OB-6.
Man that Prologue filter is so cool....It really does remind me of a poly MS-20. The temptation is strong
It's SO good! Thanks for watching.
I've always loved the OB-6, but man, you've really revamped my interest in the Prologue! Nice comparison vid!
Thanks for watching! Yep prologue really holds it’s own!
Same for me, I was already pretty determined to get a polybrute, but the P16 just sounds so good to me :o
Ob 6 has one of the best sounding notch filters , just behind the original SEM modules. Having said that the Prologue stands up as great sounding synth. Its just different and very Korg.
Fully agreed! Both are great for different reasons but that SEM style filter is just magic
I judge a synth on how much does it move me. Are the sounds makin me emotional? And the korg does that. I have the ob6 and while it sounds great, the prologue does too. My 9nly question to decide is, do i need them both?
@@MrStupidHead I'd say yes if you have something positive to say and feel about both at least.
I have a P16 (which I love) and have been gas'ing for an OB-6 to go with it. This is very informative, thanks.
happy to help! its a great combo ;)
I met a guy last week (bought his Deluge off him) that said he had an OB-6 but couldnt stop it from sounding like the 80's no matter what he did........... I told him that's why its great........ he shooed me away quickly once I handed the cash over for the Deluge....... Even if its when I retire I will own an OB-6 lush machine ! ( I have a rev2 and its a beast! but it simply cant replicate/match that SEM filter) neither can the prologue!
hahahahahaha. yep that's one thing I love but some hate. it always sounds 80s no matter what. thanks for watching! Deluge review coming soon :)
@@MilesAwayOfficial Disagree. You can make an OB-6 sound 80s as a musician, or you can bring your own baggage from the 80s (I know young people that don't think the OB-6 sounds like the 80s because they're born around 2005 - 2010). It's a synth from 2016, not 1986 - it's not hard to NOT sound like the 80s with an OB-6. Similarly, a Moog can be played in modern music without it sounding like it's stuck in the 1970s, unless you play it like you're making music in the 1970s.
36:40 Thanks for showcasing the pros of the P16. WOW!!!!
Nothing sounds like it! So unique!
I think of the SEM sound as a kind of purring sound at times. Gorgeous
Totally hear that! It's so unique! Have you seen my OB-X8 review yet? Think you'd dig it!
@@MilesAwayOfficial
Definitely will, but with mixed feelings as it is out of reach right now. Thus the goal of getting an OB-6 for that gorgeous Oberheim sound. 🫠👍
Really Cool! I've got the Korg Minilogue XD alongside my OB6 which has almost the same Soundengine as the Prologue (not in all aspects but worth the purchase!) to ad the Korg tamber to my mixes. There definitely are some similarities but in the end they complement each other very good. Its easy to add "a glimpse of the future" to a vintage analog Production with the Korg. Love it!
Totally agree, ob logue is a great combo! Thx for watching
Great comparison. Helped me make up mind (can't afford both, at the moment). They both sound great, but the OB-6 filter is something I just can't do without. I do think it's a tough call and a very worthy comparison. Nice work. Thanks!
Well said! Late reply but you really can't go wrong with either. Prologues can be found for pretty cheap used sometimes too though which is a great deal, very underrated keyboard.
Great comparison video Miles Away. You really did a great job here. Both synths are amazing poly synths. What the Prologue can do with a minimum amount of menu diving is incredible.
What the Sequential synths are great at and what the Prologue is great at IMO means that they are all great. It all depends on what you want to use them for and if you can accept each of their limitations?
The voice stealing is what stopped me from getting a Prophet-6 a couple of years ago. I love how it sounds but the 6 voice limitation was disappointing because I was spoilt by the Prologue. Now that there is a Prophet 10 out I was tempted again by the latest Prophet but in these times where my music income has been affected drastically with no income from shows, the P10 is out of my reach and the Prologue does such a great job that it effectively puts out my interest in other modern poly synths.
Late reply but I totally agree - the fact that the Prologue is still slept on despite being the only 16 Voice VCO poly under $2k is mind blowing. Modern cult classic!
Hey, great videos!! There is really no way to choose one synth from another when it come to analog poly synths. I've been a VCO engineer for decades and the circuitry is almost identical in all of these synths. You can basically create the same patch on most analog synths, even DCO based architecture. The filters and amps are the same way. If you know your way around an oscillator, filter and amplifier circuit, you don't need a real expensive synth to achieve the same sounds. The price difference is in all the buzzers and whistles usually and how much you want the synth to remember after creating a sound.
That said, I am an addict anyway. I have everything under the sun including these and the rest of what Sequential, Moog, Waldorf, Roland, Behringer, Arturia, Oberheim etc have made in the past present and future pre-orders. Needless to say I still can't get enough. It's not the this vs that scenario for me, it's what genius editing the manufacturer has done to design the different sounds into the factory presets. There are an infinite amount of sounds you can get out of any similar synthesizer so even something as low priced like the Deepmind 12 or Prologue 8 voice, I can get to sound like an 8 voice Oberheim. If you get the 16 voice Prologue you get a bit more low end. Most of the newer synths have the sub oscillators to bring up the bass plus more gain on the amps. The Prophet 10 is a great synth and also has low end but may not have as much as a newer circuit design because it was designed as a reissue so the CEM chips are the same. These chips are also in the old Oberheims which may be a consideration for Sequential to reissue an OBXa. Still the output of those synths do not match the power of my Andromeda A6 or my current venture tricked out a Omega 8 Code with full options. Anyway, thanks for doing the videos, they are very informative! Cheers!
Thanks for this great comment!
Hey Rix, I have a question about the low end on a Prologue 16 vs the 8. I understand the LF comp makes a difference, but do you think the same thing (or really close) could be achieved with a good compressor like the EHX Black Finger and/or a crossover with bi-amp setup? Mainly for live use of course, I'm assuming DAW options like multiband comp would be able to approximate the effect of the 16's low end comp pretty well on tracks. I found an 8 for a decent deal locally, can't decide if it's worth another $600 for the 16 (cheapest I can find one for used) when my playing style/genre wouldn't benefit from the extra voices
after seeing this video i really love the proloque so much more, they are both unique , and those user ocilators in the korg makes it so special, for the retro smooth creamy sound the ob6 is so good , best to buy them both like u did
Thanks for watching! Totally agree man the Prologue is a seriously underrated synth. But the OB filter is a work of art. Both great!
Great comparison! I have been debating the OB or re-acquiring the xd. This is really helpful for me especially the filter differences.
awesome! which one are you leaning towards?
Your just one of those Guys, Who have IT!;)
Whatever it is, YOU HAVE IT!
Thank you!
Great video. Any possibility of a review on the Moog One?
would love to one day! nowhere near me rents them and I don't know anyone to borrow one from though :/
Seems almost incredible how the two synthesizers sound so similar
right! very similar
@@MilesAwayOfficial I hope not, just ordered the OB6, but didn't like the Prologue and returned it.
I have an OB-6. But damn, love the Prologue 16. Gonna get one for sure!
It’s such a classic!
This is an epic comparison video, you did a great job showcasing the strengths of each synth. That multimode filter is a killer, hands down, but I'm curious if there are any 'Logue User Fx that can come close to some of the bandpass/notch/highpass shenanigans of the OB-6.
Thx for watching! Good question dude - I know the Dirtbox Synth filters are solid for extra LP/HP/BP but the resonance on them is pretty.. meh. I would 100% pay for a great sounding User FX filter that emulated the SEM sound!
Thanks for the comparison! The Prologue lured me, since I've had a Minilogue XD and sent it back. I loved the sound, but couldn't get along with the small keys and 4-voices. Well, the bigger brother is simply the answer. If one doesn't need the sequencer that is.
Good choice! I fully agree with this - the XD sequencer is a bit of a loss, but you can't beat the sound of a bi-timbral 16 voice synth :) If you haven't already, check out my Custom Patches for Korg Prologue, think you would dig em!
The OB-6 filter sweeps sound like a mix between minimoog and korg ms-20 mk1. Unreal. 👌
Great comparison! It's still my favourite filter on a synth, years later!
Thanks a lot for this comparison. Very musical one, very appreciate!
my pleasure!
Nice job. I know that you’re (rightly) focused on the differences, but I have to say that when I began listening to demos of the Prologue, it immediately evoked OB-6 vibes for me. At the very least, they both sound uniquely sparkly and pleasing in those high end harmonics that make pads come to life. But with it’s beefy fundamental - not _quite_ Moog beefy but getting there - I’d pick the Prologue for basses and leads. So as an all-rounder, I’d have to give the edge to the Prologue.
Totally agree here and thanks for watching! I think a lot of the similarities come down to the fact that these are the 2 only (afaik) vco Polysynths with 12db per octave filters, vs 24db. This creates that “sparkle” on pads. Agreed though the prologue is such a beast of an all arounder!
The Prologue, in my understanding, is that the filter is indeed a modified MS20 filter.
Fascinating! I always thought it sounded like a Poly MS20, which makes it so unique
Interesting comparaison thanks
Thanks for watching!
I understand the sound is very important.
But what about price?
In Japan,
Sequential OB-6: over 500,000yen
KORG prologue 16: about 200,000yen
Price means nothing?
For the Price the Prologue is one of the best synths ever made!
Thanks for the great comparison. I would have enjoyed it even more if the video was clearer and I could actually see what you did on the panels.
OB-6 vs Korg Prologue vs Prophet REV2 the ultimate showdown.
Would love to do that if I could get my hands on a Rev2!
@@MilesAwayOfficial I got one here in Australia... I guess your "Miles Away" though !!! Actually its a modulation beast and can do it all except OB-6 SEM..... ahhhhh
Great Video Bro
but the real question is:
If you could only buy one which one would you buy?
Thank you for watching!
Modern synth: OB6
Vintage synth: Yamaha CS80 (I can dream) :)
@@MilesAwayOfficial BC deckards dream ?! Synth from Heaven
Nice video, both great. I’d buy another OB though, it’s just that good. I own a Polybrute and I’d give that up first. Great era we live in for synths!
That’s a fantastic combo! I agree, it’s a golden age, and the OB is the holy grail
Hey, reg filters, i am pretty sure the low pass filter on the Prologue can sound as silky (with resonance) as on the OB-6, when you dial back the VCOs to about 70%, you had them on full 1023, right? Full volume saturates the signal at the filter inputs, do you get thst growl. This is separate from the filter drive section (which also needs to be off for silkness). In regards to low pass filter expression from warm to smooth to growl to super aggressive i'd say the Prologue has way greater range. Where the OB-6 is superior, is the state variable sweeps, the cutting bandpass and. high pass
Excellent comment and tip, thank you!
I prefer the filter sweep of the Prologue.
It’s so unique and gritty!
Learned another trick here ! Lfo voice unsyning on prologue , Thks superb video , the ob6 is on my list , the prologue is more 3 D tnaks to it's punchy enveloppe and transient , the ob6 is more layback and it's like some ice cream , a pure beauty ... OB6 for me is textures ... while Prologue is a more active / dynamic presence ....
Thks for this video :!!:!
Curious if you checked the Sequential rev 2 , its bi timbral capacity is a plus over the OB6 but man this OB6 filter modulated is a pure beauty ...
Glad you enjoyed it! Definitely agree, they compliment well. I've played a rev 2 but don't own one. Its a cool synth but the raw tone wasn't my favourite. I've got a Prophet 6 for those Dave Smith sounds :)
@@MilesAwayOfficial Tested a rev 2 and you confirm what i've found , for the price gap between rev 2 and the korg i would raver spend more and go ob6 in fact ....
Did ya tried the super 6 ? it's more a lush jupiter / juno style sounding synth but really capable in sound design at the same time ...
Great video, both synths are amazing but if I had to chose I’d have to go with the Prologue. Between the 16 voices, Multi Engine and being able to layer 2 presets as well as split, plus you didn’t even use the built in compressor, I’d get so many more types of sounds. It’s pretty much like getting 4 synths in one, 2 analog synths and 2 digital synths ...kinda sorta lol. And I’ve heard you can sequence the 2 layers separately from an external sequencer? I’m definitely going to get the Prologue 16
It’s an amazing synth! All of what you said is true, just note there is no separate fx or output for the second layer, so I find for professional recording it works better as one mega synth to layer vs 2-4 separate patches!
Gr8 video!
Thanks for watching!
Nice comparison vid. I accidently ended up with 2 Korg Minilogue Xd modules and poly chained them to get 8 voices. Works great and honestly I can get an amazing VCO based sound. To be fair, I am using a vintage stereo outboard EQ and compressor and some nice external effects. When processed, I wonder if I couldn't match or exceed most Analog Poly synths?
That’s a cool set up! What external hardware do you recommend with synths? Also the Xd looks like so much fun, I’d love to review one.
Any chance you could compare Prologue against a Prophet Rev 2 - or offer your thoughts? Seems Prologue sounds nicer but lacks the mod matrix, sequencer. It will be my only synth and on paper the answer is Rev2 (I don't care too much about after touch) but every time I hear Prologue 16 custom sounds. I'm tempted back to get the better (IMO) raw sounding Prologue....
I’ve gotten this request so many times! I really want to. Unfortunately I haven’t seen one for rent or for a good price on the used market recently. If someone ends up lending me one or I can find a great deal I will definitely do this video
Rev2 so much more versatile. Prologue has VCOs. That’s the main difference …
Prologue rules.
So good. Thx for watching
Regarding SUB osc on the Prologue. Actually you don't have to sacrifice any of the 2+1 osc for that. If you set the prologue in "mono" voice mode and then turn the "voice mode depth" up you get a sub =)
Totally! if you are happy with mono! I mean that for a poly patch you have to give up one oscillator to get a sub osc in poly mode. Thanks for watching! :)
Thank you for this I have the Prolouge 8 and love the sound thinking about gettin OB desktop. Can you name some tutorials to learn more about the Prolouge? Thanks
Check out my 2 other videos on the Prologue and my Custom Patch Bank for it, I have tons of content to talk about it and teach you
the intro tune 1:30 is fire!
Thank you!
was just about to list my pro 16 for sale, man i pulled down that listing quick! i defo need to spend more time also check out the digital multi mode filters for the Korg it really opens up this synth further
Absolutely! It’s a great synth. Glad I could help :)
1:28 sounds great. Is a full track to find in the web? ;)
sorry this one I just made for this video, but you would like my song Void Drifting it is very similar!
open.spotify.com/track/73nPEE8hhJBM4HnkKs3gRQ?si=53bb917210b94bf5
Nice comparison, well done! Do you have experience how the Prologue compares to DSi rev2?
thanks! I'd love to do a video but I don't have a Rev2, need to find someone who will lend/rent me one!
@@MilesAwayOfficial that’s be so cool! I think I’m not the only one interested;)
I've owned both, prefer the P16 by far.. just sounds a lot nicer and is a lot quicker to make it sound good. Sold the rev2 kept the Prologue, (have a Prophet 10 r4 for my prophet needs and the OB-6 covers the rest)
@@SpacehotelMusic Very nice! I got the Summit eventually and i too couldn't be happier :)
Rev2 so much more versatile. Prologue has VCOs. That’s the main difference …
the OB6 sounds great but the Prologue is no slouch. Prologue has such a great sound for a modern synth, highly underrated. If they come out with a Prologue xd, with expanded filter section, mod section, lfo, Fx's, digital osc and a touch keys style keybed or some sort of extended expression control, I would buy it in a second. However they have to keep the sound, no matter what creative bells and whistles they throw at a Prologue 2, it has to have the sound it has right now or no bueno.
Agreed, I'd be all over a Prologue XD, that sounds like honestly the perfect synth, as long as they add a 4 pole filter option!
For the OB6, I actually just posted an update to this review, check it out on my channel if you wanna hear more for another opinion!
@@MilesAwayOfficial Filter section has real analog options and then expanded digital options from the opsix/ modwave library. the ability to have two filters at once like the polybrute would be nice too. I am taking a digital/ analog hybrid that has no compromise and is mpe ready with some sort of expression system in the keybed. A synth to end all synths.
Nice comparison. I struggle to wade through the typical oscillator/oscilloscope comparisons. Really, how much does it matter? Do you have any thoughts on the Prologue vs the Miniilogue XD?
Never played a minilogue XD but it seems amazing!
Thanks for another great video. Do you still favor the summit over the prologue?
Thanks!
That’s a hard question. If I had to pick only one synth, it will be the summit, But I’m lucky enough to have quite a collection and I find that I don’t use the summit as much as I used to because it’s very much a Chameleon.
I really like synths with lots of unique character like the prologue
@@MilesAwayOfficial Thank you very much for your answer. I wish you the best.
Hello Miles, I was wondering do you know how much of a difference between a Prologue 8 and Prologue 16? I’m thinking of getting one yet I have only small space left for synths and Prologue 8 is more ideal, but then watching this video made me reconsider further haha.
Hey! Thanks for watching, I've got a couple other videos on the Prologue you should check out on my channel too, but basically the biggest difference besides more voices is the analog low frequency compressor. It's really really nice and I must confess I leave it on most of the time for extra warmth, but it's not a dealbreaker, you can totally get away with Prologue 8 :)
@@MilesAwayOfficial ahh I see. Thank you for the info!
actually... i think the Prologue sounds more fat and detailed much of the time. And i know it cannot do as many tricks as the OB6 but the overall sound is just better ... deeper and more detailed. More alive maybe and more majestic like a Jupiter. The OB6 is a great synth and overall can make more sounds but the sounds itself are not as great as the Prologue (at least to my ears on my Sennheiser HD650 headphones and Yamaha HS8 monitors)
Totally fair , Prologue is insanely underrated. There’s a reason I have kept it along my OB-X8 but sold others, it sounds great
Oh boy here we go
Aw man, stoked to also see you have a shop setup now bro!
Thanks man!
Yes I’m going to be starting to sell sample packs, guitar song starters and presets for different suoftware and hardware synths
@Rhizosphere oh those are coming soon too 😁
How you making the sound at 23:40 on the Prologue?
Ring mod and a custom oscillator from Tim Shoebridge
@@MilesAwayOfficial thanks! Is that the built in ring mod or a 3rd party one?
@miles away Do you prefer the Prologue or the Summit? I am thinking of both
Hey! I did a whole video on this. The Prologue grabs me more with its sound, but the Summit is WAY more versatile. If I could only pick one as my only synth, I'd have to say Summit, but if you already have other synths, Prologue has more character.
@@MilesAwayOfficial thanks. I watched your video on both. It was great and informative, but you didn’t totally commit to which one you preferred. You gave a balanced assessment of each one’s best and worst points. I suppose it depends on what you are looking for. The one thing I find disappointing about the Prologue is it doesn’t have an audio input. It’s a shame. Thanks for your assessment. I think I agree. The Prologue certainly sounds stellar, so does the Summit, which as you say, seems greater overall package
That bubbly arp sound you make on the prologue at 36:45. Is that in your custom patches for sale?
That is made using one of Tim Shoebridge's user oscillators, so I couldn't include it in my presets!
@@MilesAwayOfficial Whici oscillator is it? I'd like to buy it. Thanks.
Doesn’t the Pro’s resonator self oscillate (where the OB-6 does not)?
Would you be able to get the smoother sweeps that the OB-6 has by lowering the res on the Pro?
Correct only the P filter self oscillates. And you can get close but the OB filter is in the end smoother.
Hey Miles. I bought your preset pack for the Prologue. How can I see the presets individually so I can add them to my preexisting library instead of having to have change libraries to use your sounds? Thanks.
Hey! Thanks for purchasing! The way the Prologue works it needs a 3rd party editor to manage individual patches out of sets. Look up the one from Dominique Bontemps as a start, I haven’t used one myself but that one I’ve heard is pretty good
When you open a library set with the Prologue Librarian software, it doesn't send it to the hardware until you click 'Send' or 'Send All' under 'Programs' at the top of the software window.
But if you open a set that isn't loaded to the hardware, you can't see which program slots are empty in the hardware. So you need to write down the empty program numbers you want to load individual programs to.
Then open the new library. Place the programs you want to send to the prologue in the program number position you want them to be by dragging into position or copy-paste (don't save the software library, or save a new version after reordering the programs). Then select the programs you want to send to the hardware storage drive (shift click or ctrl click for multiples) and click 'SEND' under 'Programs'.
That will send just the selected programs to the numbers they are currently in.
Before doing any of this you should back up your existing library and save in the computer.
Also, user oscillators, FX, are not saved in the library software!!
Also if you remove a user oscillator, the program can't remember settings from that oscillator. So even if you put the user osc back in the synth hard drive, it will load up with default settings of the user osc. I discovered this the hard way 😐
When you discuss the square and triangle wave at around 6 minutes in, I just don’t hear much difference. Is that because after TH-cam upload / download the difference is gone, or is that because my ears are bad? In other words, if you do the comparison again by playing the TH-cam video, do you still hear the difference?
Great question. TH-cam compression definitely makes it less of a difference but the difference is definitely still there, It will be more apparent if you are listening on a hi-fi stereo or set of headphones with good bass response.
To my ears the OB6 square wave sounds much richer in the low end! But it’s all subjective end of day. Thx for watching!
@@MilesAwayOfficial I used AKG K92 headphones. I think it does have a bit of a neutral profile, not too much bass. So maybe it is easier to hear on one of the many headphones that emphasize bass. I’ll try again later with a different one. But my ears are not in the best condition, so it could also be the case that I just can’t hear it. I do hear the differences in the filter character quite well.
@@jantuitman yea I think the difference is most apparent in the low end so that’s probably it if you aren’t using nearfield monitors! Thanks so much for watching Jan :)
I looking at one of these for pads but will have male vocals on it. The OB6 sounds great but huge. Do you think it takes up to much of space in a mix for vocals?
hey! Ob-6 is quite easy to mix in with vocals, its nowhere near as low mid/low end heavy as something like a Moog. My song BACK TO SLEEP is all done with the OB-6, give it a listen to see:
th-cam.com/video/RIg5Bjb3O_s/w-d-xo.html
@@MilesAwayOfficial This song is sick AF. Wow. This vocals sit incredibly
@@undercrownhiphop9422 thanks man! Feel free to check out more of my stuff, Miles Away on all streaming platforms. Synth based pop.
Is it true that the maximum attack time for the envelope on the prologue is only 3 seconds and the envelopes are short in general compared to rev 2 ?
Good question , not sure exact time but I’ve never found it a problem
Which instrument is responsible for the filter sound at the beginning on the intro. Im just wondering.
Prologue is responsible for the bass sound with resonance in the intro! Such a nice distorted filter!
@@MilesAwayOfficial This video and the demo by Daniel Fisher is awesome, Just bought the Prologue 8. The 16 is sold out almost everywhere, chip shortage they say.
Which synth was playing in the background during your intro? Thank you
Both at the same time! Korg on bass and OB on arpeggio :)
I've had both (at the same time), sold both... prefer the OB-6 slightly tonally but liked the 5 octaves and some of the extras of the Prologue, can't go wrong with either. I always said you could get the prologue close to copying many OB-6 sounds, glad to see a video proving that. The OB-6 did have a slightly more raw sound, and the Prologue slightly more rounded (like Roland). Emotionally I connected with the OB-6 a bit more but the Prologue is no slouch.
Replaced them with a Prophet 10 rev 4 (obviously different but I don't like having too many synths at once - these days and wanted a 4 pole filter back in my main analog poly), just that and a subsequent 37 for now.
Totally agree with your comparison! And man, I want a P10 so bad. I keep toying with the idea of selling a couple of my synths to fund one. Any regrets?
@@MilesAwayOfficial None so far! I play it mostly without FX and am still blown away, then I hook it up to some FX and it's game over!
The OB6 filter is great, but it sound really generic in comparison with the growly, distorted one in the Prologue. As for the oscillators, the OB6 sounds really buzzy, bright. Even the triangle has lots of buzz. This makes the OB6 sound a bit less "dimensional" in comparison to Prologue. If OB6 sounds like an open palm slap, the Prologue sounds like a fist punch. However, the Prologue's harder character lends itself less to chord playing. Just my observation. Both sound great in their own right.
Great overview! Totally agree here. Both are amazing flavours to have. If you haven’t, check out my recent 3 year later review of the Prologue. It’s still a keeper!
Had Korg made a desktop Prologue i would have bought a 16 voice one ages ago, however I now after 2 years have both the Pro 6 and OB6 desktop versions, and consequently I am unwilling to spend more money.
haha that's fair, that is a KILLER combo. What do you think of the Prophet 6? I'd love to review one eventually.
@@MilesAwayOfficial It sounds lovely, despite the similarities with the OB6 the PRO 6 has enough of a different flavour to make it worth the investment, in my opinion that is.
@@gourkernow5694 awesome to hear! I think I've become such a sequential fanboy in the last few months LOL
Where did you get the free 'duet' user oscillator from?
sinevibes I think
Hey man, love your channel. I have an ob-6 and I love it. I’m looking for a good 61-key poly synth to pair with it. My obv first thought was the prophet rev2.. but I’m really interested in the open source aspect of the prologue. Do you think the prologue and ob-6 are a good match? Or do you think they both cover the same territory? They both have the 12db filter so I wasn’t sure. Just curious what you think. I dig the lo-fi, nostalgic, 80’s, indie pop vibe
Hey! Late reply but that is a very good, although specific combo. Both have a 12db filter, so you will miss out on a lot of classic warm round 24db sounds. If that doesnt matter to you then 100% get the combo, they are two of the vibiest keyboards and blend together perfectly + sound vintage. BUT if you want something more versatile, consider the Summit, I have videos on it. It complements the OB really well! I'm not the biggest Rev2 fan but its good too of course.
Seems like while the ob6 can't do as much as the prologue the sounds it can do it does very well - was that even a sentence? Great work man keep it up 👍
Spot on analysis! Thx for watching
So what you’re saying is I have to get both?
hahaha ;) sorry not sorry
Behringer Pro 16?
Will definitely be looking to review one!
in fact the pro16 has nearly the character of the OB-6 filters, he wins for me with multi-engine 'n' user osc. comparison with drive off, compressor off for the korg powerhouse, really? pro16 is double+ voice and half prize. but when money doesn't play a role i go for 8voice schmidt's. ;-)
I wish you had stated which synth you were playing everytime you switched so I could listen without watching.
Well the Ob-6 wins in features having a Multifilter but I was disappointed it didn't sound anything like an Oberheim. Prophet-6 is a better comparison . I had both OB6 , P6 and the Prologue and kept the Prologue of those for having a more vintage sounding LP filter and all the digital Oscs and FX you can add. Most of my patches use those Multi OSCs. Now, Polybrute kills them all but still keeping the Prologue.
Oh wow! Jealous you have a polybrute! Hard to come by where I am ! How do you like it?
And what don’t you think makes the ob sound like an oberheim? I think it definitely sounds like the SEM
@@MilesAwayOfficial I expected a lot from the OB-6 as I had two old SEMS and an OB-8 and really wanted a multifilter Poly but somehow I was too let down by the OB6 and didn't even use it.
The Polybrute came to Los Angeles last week and I have been blown away every day at how it does great patches sounding like an OB-X; CS-80 and MS-20; which all were discreet synths so not so much sounding like a CEM based synth (P5, OB8. XA, etc.)
@@rewiremusic4540 wow - surprised to hear that, but to each their own! and that's awesome to hear about the Polybrute. Really tempted to sell the Summit to get one. What do you think?
@@MilesAwayOfficial I had a Peak and it was OK but I found it's analog osc approximations very cold. It could have been a good hybrid had it more digital stuff. The Hydrasynth filled that digital side for me but I will sell it when the Korg Modwave comes.
@@rewiremusic4540 appreciate the insight. I've never heard of the Modwave but will check it out. My feelings with the Summit is that it's a ton of fun to make sounds on, and is great for ambient sounds, but honestly since getting the OB6 I find it has sort of made the Summit sound "muddy and cold". It's hard to explain - like getting the OB6 made the Summit's slight flaws more apparent.
I don't think it's a digital thing as I just got a used Pro 2 (review incoming!) and that sounds GREAT even with digital oscs.
Lol @ prologue in the same convo as OB 6 🤣🤣🤣
Watch the video! It holds its own well ;) although OB-6 is one of the goats for sure
Logue is phat ob 6 is smooth and airy
Well said!
How does prologue compare to minilogue?
vs the XD = better in every way except no sequencer! vs the Original, they are actually pretty different cause of the filters.
@@MilesAwayOfficial ..you can have Delay & Reverb simultaneously on the XD.
You said you’d never sell your Prologue … ? 😉
Yea i still have it and love it :)
@@MilesAwayOfficial oh, I thought it had vanished ☺️
Wow 👌 you made me laugh 😃
Glad you enjoyed :D
Name of song?
This was just an improvised Jam I did for the video! Glad you enjoyed :)
@@MilesAwayOfficial Com Truise would be proud 😎
Did you managed to get the aftertouch to work on the Prologue from an external aftertouch keyboard like OB6?
Yep! It’s basic but works. Don’t buy prologue if you love aftertouch
@@MilesAwayOfficial That‘s why I didn‘t and got a Prophet Rev 2.
@@RayyMusik Small world lol. You're everywhere on the tube.
Aftertouch is really going to haunt Korg. Ruined the entire board and killed sales to a shocking degree.
OB-6 murders the prologue on raw oscs
Ob6 is my favourite synth for a reason! Thanks for watching
Yes! 😎
Ob match better
Ob is sure great! Thanks for watching
C’mon! We know how wins here easily. You can’t be call “Pro” with one LFO, just to begging with. And the cons list goes on. Not a bad synth but at the introduction priced it was a broad daylight robbery from #Korg
I get this a lot and I respect the opinion, but remember, the OB6/Prophet 6/Prophet 5 only have 1 LFO and are considered classics. The 80s Roland synths don't have aftertouch, etc etc. Synths are sometimes greater than the sum of their features :)
In the end prologue is mocked globally for good reason. Its a crippled joke of a synth and a waste of space in any serious studio. The features are so poor its outclassed without effort by Korgs lowest tier of 37 key instruments. Which is an embarrassment for something toted to be a flagship.
Funny to see the 'one-more-lfo' gag after all these years now. Korg need to step up the cost/value and ditch the allergy to aftertouch which is a basic expectation at best.
Sorry to all the people in the comments but the Korg Prologue sounds much better to my ears. I'm not saying it's a better synth but it does sound better.
Fair ! It really sounds so good and is a criminally underrated synth. To this day I am still surprised it was such a commercial failure they discontinued it after 3 years