Xeon 1680 v2 Vs. 2700X Vs. i9-9900K - Gaming Benchmarks - Part 1/3
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- Here is the X79 2013 Vs. 2018's Greats, the Ryzen 7 2700X and Intel i9-9900K in Gaming. All clocked to their Maximum 24/7 Air/Water Cooled Speeds (in an ambient temp of 25c). And today we test 7 different games with an RTX 2080 Ti to see if these 'old outdated' CPUs are still any good.
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Sorry for taking the previous video down, edited it late last night and there were too many mistakes on the graphs. All fixed now! Enjoy!
Tech YES City It was a good video despite the mistakes, keep it up!
ah you fixed the dota slide makes more sense now and now people can stop saying ryzen 5 2700x?
just wondering are you interested in a UD9 and or a 980X (maby 970X).
Thank you very much for listening and correcting those. Everyone can make mistakes the important thing is to either correct them or stand by them. :)
maaaan, and I was excited, believing that you uploaded part two already when I got my notification
I don't understand why anyone IS surprised about these results. Intel has had nearly ZERO competition from AMD since at least 2011, so very little innovation/ improvements were made on their CPUs. They just raped us consumers on pricing and we had no choice but to take it and smile. It is only with the release of Ryzen that Intel was finally forced to compete. That's why I still use my i7 2600k although I may upgrade to Ryzen 3 next year if the rumors of their potential performance are true.
Go for the Ryzen 5 3600X next year. Best mid-end CPU
Intel fucked amd in video but again you dumb fanboys saying intel is bad, omg what an idiot
@@Tpecep How? Look at the price difference!
That Xeon is $550 used! You can buy the 2700x, an overclocking motherboard, and 16GB of RAM for that price.
You gotta love shintels,they are like Manson followers,even if they know these results above are fake as shit,they are still praying to their God,Intel. In all fairness,Intel numbers in bencmarks may be in place(with a bit of salt) but,Ryzen is butchered here way too much.Example:GTA V 130 fps,seriously? That is even low for first Ryzen.And what about memory,3600MT/s CL18,that is waaaaay lower performance than 3200MT/s CL14.This video is meme.
@@Neiva71 Yeah fanboys in general are bad
Xeon Master Race !!!!! Merry Xeonmas !!!!
Lol 😂😂😂
charlie brownau
Masterace, the developers only, Productivity!! the people with real skills, content creators!
E2699 v4 on Turbo, you need a good X99 board! Xeon just a sticker on a CPU design! Broadwell eXtreme!
Happy Xeonooka brother
This is why I have been rocking exactly this platform for ages - A Rampage IV Extreme, E5-1680v2 @ 4.7Ghz all core and quad channel 2400Mhz DDR3 RAM.
A quick bios mod and I even have a full speed NVME boot drive in a m.2 to PCIe x4 adapter.
There has been no compelling reason to upgrade.
Same here over years, bios mod for NVME, quad channel 2400 Mhz DDR3 but still on 4 core 4.7 GHz-CPU with corsair H80i v2 in silent mode with cooltek fans on. Fast an silent PC. No need to upgrade so far...
@Mmichex 1.408 at max clock, (106.8x44), just by +0.105 offset and LLC mode 2, still using speedstep and all other energy saving features. CPU clocks between 1.3 and 4.7 GHz (4.6 all core multi 43) ;-) valid.x86.fr/7fkdwc
Dabo is your 4 core a Xeon? I’m thinking because of the cache being a 4 core does not hurt it like most consumer one do. Is this true?
Anyone notice that his shirt has the S from yes and the I from city lining up to make SI which is Spanish for yes.
Was going to comment this
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My friend who designed it, actually is half Spanish, all is revealed now :D, such a cool touch!
Tech SI City!
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I watched both vids cause I love this channel
Why are so many complaining on that it's not an "Apples to Apples" compairison and that the price on the xeon (when it was released) was way higher then what the newer cpus are now. Well, of course they are. What he is trying to say (from what I believe) is that Intel actually made a cpu back in 2013 that compairs fairly good to the BEST consumer grade cpu in 2018. Ain't that worth talking about? In my opinion, that shows that the CPUs have not excelled as much as you can think.
A wondering that came to mind now, are there a monster xeon in 2018 that will beat the i9 9900k?
Intel started locking down xeons hard... sad really :(.
Intel processors are fine. Its usually the chipset in the motherboards that age poorly. If you had some kind of hybrid motherboard that updated the chipset on board where the processor lacked slightly those old processors would still be beasting. Even like 2nd gen Sandy bridge stuff.
@@techyescity It's certainly a pity the 2600 v2 series is not unlocked, would be nice to push the 2680 v2, I bet it could give the 6950X a decent punchup. :)
raxxe
Running a E2699 v4 now, or back then fresh, a 2015 $20.000 CPU in 2015?
Just upgrade your old builds.....
@Martin Luther way more the now avaible e7 10 core costs 6k and its not nearly as top of the end as the e5 was back then, they did cost above 5
The 1% low on GTA is due to its engine, after 180fps it tends to "lock up" , somewhere around low/even 5ms frametime causes this. If you lock up on MSI afterburner to 170fps, those 1% lows improve greatly.
So glad you posted this series of videos. I've been running a R4BE and 1680v2 since 2015 with 64GB 2400 @ 9-11-11-28-2T ripjawz V.
1680v2s are going for $170 on eBay right now!!!
A few tips:
Try the 125 strap and set voltage to manual instead of offset. Start at 1.4, go straight to 4.7 GHZ, if not stable back it down to 4650.
Then start knocking vcore down until you hit instability, and raise it back up .05v. For me this is 1.372vcore.
Lower PLL, don't raise it. It creates a lot more heat and limits OC. Below are my CPUs stable voltages in the bios:
Vcore 1.36
VTT: 1.05
VTT2nd: 1.05
PLL: 1.7
VCCSA: 1.25
LLC: High
Bclk Skew: -3
Bclk: 130
Passmark: 20680 CPU
In 2020 there's STILL no compelling reason to upgrade if 8c/16t if enough for your workflow (which it is for the vast majority of users).
EK monoblock keeps it from 53c - 58c lowest and highest core in cinebemch R20.
It will run a 4850mhz if I throw voltage at it, but, no reason to do so.
I've been using 1680 v2+DDR3 2400 CL9 for last 4 years and got also a 1950X+X399 platform. This video makes me seriously want to test gaming performance on both machines...
Are you going to start selling those Ryzen hats? they look so stylish. Also this proves 2013 can still get up and boogie in 2018 almost 2019.
For $550 used, it had better get up and boogie.
2019 he'll have the Zen 2 Ryzen hats.
@@lameassedgamecast like he said, not a price to performance platform.
@@TheRadioBunker Not sure how that in any way invalidates my statement.
@@lameassedgamecast not invalidating your statement. More agreeing, it isn't cheap but it lays down performance ahead of it's time.
Damn the xeon man back at it again
This is the kind of videos I watch your channel for Bryan. Currently on x79 with a 3820 at 4.6ghz. I was wondering whether I should upgrade to the 9900k but I'll just go ahead and grab the Xeon.
Michael Dodd
Why you need new shit, old parts can do that job better on 16nm!!!
You need the X2699 v4 CPU's, running on old X99 boards!
Forget DDR3 boards now! Old crap now for gamers!
@@lucasrem because, its a drop in replacement.
another point, recc ddr3 1866 is dirty cheap, 64gb quad channel for less then 32gb dual channel of ddr4, and equal or better bandwidth, its also possible to get cheap, but quite serviceable chinese x79 and x99 boards, but, the 1680v2 ddr3 or 4, is a very powerful chip, so dropping one into a system thats already up and running, is a good idea, a very cheap upgrade, thats got an unlocked multi to boot... should be very easy to get 4.5 or so even on a fairly meh board....
again, its about how much people have to spend, give it another year or 2 and recc ddr4 will be dirt cheap and those platforms will be a decent choice..for now a 1650 v2 or 1680 v2 would be an amazing upgrade to any 2011 system, if you can run recc ram, omg... 64-128gb dirty fucking cheap...quad channel...(even 2133 can be had for better prices then ddr4 counterparts sadly..)
anyway, for now alot of us, like myself, are looking at this stuff because are poor and dont want a side grade, but would like to move up in every way we can, even if we also endup having to use an audio card and usb3 add-in card, im actually ok with that... should be fine... and cheaper then moving up to ddr4, for now, in 1-2 years the ddr4 options will start to actually stand out as 'hey, that might work nice'
The X79 is a monstrous platform, in quad-channel the X79 can handle up to 60gb/s versus 40gb/s in the fastest ddr4 platform, X79 for sure are the best configuration possible till today for production, we cant see Zen 2 at now, but for sure will not change nothing in this scenario...
You need the X2699 v4 CPU's, running on old X99 boards!
Forget DDR3 boards now! Old crap now for gamers!
Great comparison.
I would have really liked to see this exact XEON compared to a similarly clocked i7-39xx. Why? Because many of us (me included) still use the i7. So I would really like to see if it might be worth the money to invest more into this platform. Are those extra 2 cores really relevant for gaming?
I would guess over 90% of the Desktop LGA2011 users are using an i7 hexacore. There is a huge audience :D
TheRailroad99
Running DDR3 in 2019, not a 2019 solution!
modern cheap systems are way better. You can do some 2015 Xeon build on LGA 2011-3 that beats 9900k, but not on DDR3!
@@lucasrem lol you buy into that hype
@@ellrick Took you 2 month, why you still need old DDR 3 shit, pre 2014 Xeon's?
You'd be comparing a six-core to an eight-core
lucas rem Because you have DDR3 as fast as DDR4 with better latency. DDR3 is better my friend besides the higher voltage.
I haven't watched your videos since 2016 you still put high quality content, keep up with the good work!
Love to see that the x79 is still keeping up, even the X58 is still decent
GTA V's engine has a fps cap of 180 ish fps soon as you go over that limit the games stutters, this happens with the 8700k as well, to say that it is a bad experience when you could have set an fps limit of 175 when benchmarking or enable some level msaa is unjust, hope to see this fixed in future benchmarks.
Gta v is losing players so i dont think so...
@@picklesthegreatest Plus, most users wouldn't know about the issue.
It is like calling a supersonic jet worse than a normal jet because it is louder, a supersonic jet can fly slower if less noise is desired. This is the same thing as calling the 9900/8700k worse than 2700x/ 1680v2 because it has the ability to push more performance than gtav's engine allows. What I meant is Bryan shouldn't to said this @ 5:00 anyways I am not trying to hate on this channel, infact I have been a long time viewer, it is simply constructive criticism
@@zrustyz7341 He pointed out the issue and did mention using a frame rate cap to avoid it. Your jet analogy is way off though. :D Most users just wouldn't know there was an issue they could run into. People who read and watch tech sites are a bit of a minority. I do think though it would have been nice to therefore have an extra 1% bar to show what happens with the 9900K (presumably very good numbers) when a sensible cap is imposed.
Absolutely amazing video...great point raised. Well said Sir. Looking forward for part 2.
can you do a video that comparesx99 v3 e5 xeon to a 9900k
Bryan please answer, I want to move my 1680 v2 or even grab a 2696 v2 (12 core OEM or 2697 v2 (12 core) and maybe even the 2690 v2 (10 core) to my Gigabyte Assassin 2 mobo - Board running the last bios F12W (or something similar - can not go back to older BIOS until I learn DOS?) and I am reading that it does not support none of these & only the 1660 v2 which I already have in it is an option because of the BIOS Gigabyte left US with.... I seen you had this board before so wandering what you did (cpu used) and if there is a way as I have the WILL / if there is, I just need instructions.... I really hope this is not true that I can not run the 12 core 2696 or 2697 v2 in my x79 Assassin 2... If so, I will NEVER buy a Gigabyte product again as this will be so many times now (3 for me alone, VisionTEK is BEST at long updates for years and AMD, JetWay as well as Supermicro, GO FIGURE!) that Gigabyte crippled their own product (After taking our money) with its EOL bios update or any software was just sort of abandoned whilst all the other boards of the same GEN/Chipset/Grade, run these cpu's just fine, as they should as it is NOT hardware limited but SOFTWARE! #GRRRRRR .... If I can not get this, x99 here I come for the 14 core Broadwell-E .... ...XEONS.... I hope you have the answer as I saw you in a random video with the Giga Assassin 2 and it took me so long to get all the kinks out of this board and when ready to flip this CPU to something better finally - I hit a wall with what I am reading ONLINE from people actually trying it however I know sometimes answers do exist from other languages or counties online somewhere or even hidden on the web somewhere..... #PleaseHELP as love XEONS and running older cpu's as well as the Super good build of this board (tough) even down to the GREEN color of the pcie lanes, etc..... But I can not accept this one thing, its to BIG of a Deal Breaker.....
Any chance of looking at the 1680v3 on x99 matey?
I've heard some interesting things! Would be interesting to see.
Love the x79! still rocken Rampage IV Extreme! got a 1680v2 4.4, 3080 ti FTW, 32 gb kingston savage 2400mhz and nvme boot, eats through 1440p and 4K
That's crazy how much that Xeon is able to keep up.
old game engines. This xeon around the same time that most of these game engines existed.
Not a big surprise you can throw in a 2600k in there and OC it will be close to 9900k.
Just shows that sandy bridge was polished and turned into a 9900k.
@@Thesinistereyes1 Gamer's only need GPU cards, a non bottlenecking CPU!
2600k, only good if you run crappy GPU cards, RTX levels, go for the better Xeon's, the v4 versions on X99!!!!!
Do 6900k or E2699v4 VS the next gen ZEN CPU's now! You can see that AMD is still not doing it any better now!!!!
This video, CRAP!!!!!
@@lucasrem Broadwell-EP xeons (v4) all have locked multiplier.
@@marsdeimos4301
what do you try, you need that 9900k or not?
EP support Turbo, that's enough for running 48HT cores on 5Ghz on C610.
You need the better E26xx v4 CPU's to proof this!
DonicsM
you wanted this for a wile muhawhahahaha... Fail!
AMD is on the same levels as intel was in 2015, that's kinda good!!! Only noobs will never understand anything, needing this weird TH-cam content!!!!
Just ordered a e5 2667 v2 from ebay for $105 USD. I would say its the second best E5 V2 locked CPU for gaming with a boost clock of 4.0. Second only to the 2673 V2 with a lower TDP. Excited to pair it with my plexhd motherboard.
Tengo el 2689, say max 3,6 but, llega a 3,3, a cuanto llega el 2667 4,0 ghz ? Y me podrías decir cuanto te arroja en CPU Z EN BENCH
Gonna hit up the merch store Brian. Love the vid my man, LONG LIVE THE Xeon!!!
Interesting results, and a puzzling selection of games to use. Looking forward to the next one's regardless
Great video, I look forward to the other 2.
How did you manage to OC xeon to 4.6 ghz when the official website recommends 3.9 ghz? i also want to OC my xeon 2643 v2, can you give us some tips...
he is crazy
Koqla Edits i didn’t want to believe you but the box over his head at 00;13, maybe you are right 😂😂😂
“The latest and greatest Battlefield 5.” Good one Brian 😂
Glad to see that you are one of a very small number of tubers that has standards, subbed because you reposted with the necessary corrections. Hey, we all make mistakes, keep up the good work.
Great, great video....And boy does the X79 and Zeon punch way, way beyond it's class....and that 9900K is still mighty...Though you are 100% right, the value is still crazy on the older CPU's especially if you are smart with your purchase and no your use case implicitly....Once again, always love your content..
Great timing. I want to build a LGA 2011 PC for weeks. This video proved this is the best platform for my purpose. Cheap overclockable Xeons and dozens of pcie lanes and quad channel memory.
My plans are building a 'two gamer one pc' like linux-windows vm - linux for desktop and running servers 7/24, windows for gaming.
I just bought 8*8 GB RAM for ~100 USD, and now I have to find a cheap workstation with 8 DIMM and many many pcie slots.
Its not that easy to overclock. Brian had an original used x79 motherboard not one of the Chinese knockoffs they sell all over the place. If you have an authentic board then your lucky.
But the chinese mobo or workstation/server boards won't be able to OC. And authentic used boards cost around $250 USD.
@@JimmysTheBestCop A good mbd is definitely the key. ASUS R4E is ideal, or either of the pro equivalentd (P9X79 WS and P9X79-E WS). The E/WS is especially mental, I have a 4960X on mine:
www.anandtech.com/show/7613/asus-p9x79e-ws-review
Note PCIe slot 4, direct x8 to the CPU, perfect for NVMe boot (mine has a 950 Pro).
Or the P9X79 Deluxe is also pretty good, got one for my brother, fitted it with a 10c XEON 2680 v2. Can't be oc'd, but he prefers the threads anyway.
Gergely Szikszai
You need to find a good board first, then find a matching v4 CPU! You never need Server Boards!!!!
X2699 v4 CPU's, running on old X99 boards!, or other v4 5Ghz CPU's
Forget DDR3 boards now! Old crap now for gamers! Who needs old crap????
LGA 2011-3/X99 intel 603, DDR4 boards!!!!!!!
Cheap workstation?? cheap GPU? old shit? You only need a good Quadro level card, can't find that cheap, gaming GPU is the cheap Quadro, you need money for that!!!!
Kurtis Rinker I think both platforms made a big jump in performance... the only reason you can’t see it is because all CPU benchmarks on TH-cam are tested on Ultra settings which invalidates all of the results as GPU becomes a bottleneck. Notice how there’s a 5-10 FPS difference when gpu usage is at 99% but suddenly when you play CS:GO with 60% gpu usage there’s nearly 200fps (even if you convert it to % it’s still huge)
Best entro song and excellent content! Love your channel !
I would assume that my 4930k @ 4.5 ghz would perform like the e5 1680 v2 in gaming or real close , Please do a e5 1650 v2 vs r5 2600x vs 9700k on next video:)
I’ve just completed a gigabyte x79 and an i7 4960x build that I picked up for cheap. Slapped in 32gb quad Channel Corsair dominator plat ram. This thing bogies very happy with this rig.
Thanks for the vids 👌
Great video as always 👍
Which processor is better in games, 1680v2 or 1680v3?
Bryan, not the video I was expecting. I am not surprised though, by your findings.
Thanks to you, I built an older Z77 Hackintosh, using a Gigabyte ThunderBolt board. To say that I am pleased with the performance is an under statement. I could use more cores and higher clocks for FCPX but with dual AMD GPUs and Intel QuickSync, the current Hackintosh flies. That and the machine only ran me 325 US for a complete build. Couldn't have asked for a better deal.
Stay active Mate and Happy Holidays.
ricky v
Thunderbolt 3 build on Z? $1999 monitor, supported???? is it still any good now???
i did my apple PC build on X99 Deluxe II by ASUS years ago, e2699 v4 level CPU, you need more PCIe lanes! Z is not recommended for apple level builds!
Both Thunderbolt and USB use massive amounts of PCIe channels, NVMe too, forget Z! Z is good for single SSD gaming shit only.
lucas rem Thank you for your input. I am very pleased with the build. (:
@@WarriorsPhoto Good that it worked out, PC's need more Thunderbolt 3!
TB3, is a wonderful piece of tech. Maybe, one day I'll treat myself to TB3 equipped computer.
really genuine video,the ideal tech yes city type.....keep up the great work
Brian, is there any chance you could do a quick 4k benchmark with an SLI setup to find out which of these system are best for a top-shelf gaming setup made to push 4K beyond 60fps? You're one of the few people who are able to test whether you get a better utilization of both GPU's in a setup like that, would hate to see you miss out on the opportunity to see what's behind that door as you're already in the process of opening all the doors around it ^^
Thank you for this video series - from an X79 user ;)
I am now thinking about upgrading my 4820K to the 1680 v2.
same, but the problem is that not so long ago the 1680 v2 was about 300$ on ebay/aliexpress... now its 600 at the least, which is quite a bit more annoying.
am now considering the 1660 v2. overclocks like a beast just the same, with only 2 cores under the 1680.. costs like 200$ give or take
hope this helped your build ;)
Justin Raug Veggerby
Forget DDR3 in 2019, or stay on HD ready levels for ever?
Need a good old build running RTX levels, X99 e2699v4 can do that.
Or need it to run cheap old cheap GPU's?
@@lucasrem soooo.... you decided to reply to me before watching the video.
@@Hreimr before watching the video? You need 9900k to run your RTX 8000 cards, or can some old Xeon do that job better?
This video is a fail!!!!!!!!!!!
@@lucasrem So, you are basically rejecting Bryan's @Tech Yes City's findings - so please provide your own findings with a well researched dip into each of the chipsets and their respective CPUs.
will there any software test like x264 720p / HD or other rendering benchmarks ?
thank you
good video =D
Im sure all the multiple bios and windows patches around spectre and meltdown affect the newer processors more, the Sandy Bridge might not have any kind of fix in effect, hence performance is unaffected.
And the benchmarking starts!
I just picked up a e5-1680 v2 on ebay for $180, already have a x79 board. Going to drop my E5-2680V2 2.8GHz Ten Core on ebay for probably the same price :) WoooHoo! free upgrade. X79 is the platform that keeps giving.
Booty Hole Man hey! Funny enough my ryzen and vega system died while all my intel system I’ve treated like shit still work. What’s the difference between the 10 core and the new one? The one you have now has less cores right?
@@techbuildspcs The E5-268z0v2 has 10 cores but not fully unlocked, I can get it to about 3.3ghz, still kicks ass. The E5-1680v2 has 8 cores but fully unlocked, can clock to 4.5-4.6ghz. Dropping 2 cores to get higher frequency works out better for me. Yeah, man I used to be into the underdog CPU companies in the 90's (AMD, Cyrix, etc.) but In reality although more expensive Intel has always performed better, and been more reliable. I'm a software engineer, and I use this stuff all day everyday, Intel is better, always has been. That is just reality. Some inexperienced pseudo genius Is sure to bless us with their knowledge after my comment. :)
@@techbuildspcs These ryzen death comments is why I got the extended warranties on the cpu and mobo, 4 yrs. Hopefully if needed they will be honored.
@@lonniebeal6032 ended up being another shit msi part, the motherboard. avoid msi with everything.
My FS700 does 960fps. I did some tests between my I7 6700. I7 2700k and a Ryzen 1800x. Pretty staggering results. I cant wait to see your testing.
@ Tech, have you tested your 1680 v2 with a Chinese x79 mobo? I know that the chipsets can vary a bit when ordering an x79 mobo from AliExpress. I'm just getting a e5-2650 v2 to start off with, I know it is a locked Xeon, right now after a stable rig build to replace my c2d e8400 build from 2008 and Ryzen at the moment is outta my budget based on current 2020 CAD pricing on AliExpress..the covid-19 influence on the used PC parts market not helping with my trying to put a Ryzen 5 2600 build together..the R5 2600 it's currently to high in price for me.
I wasnt expecting that kind of performance from old xeon, seeing how bad 2500k at 5ghz was doing even in some games that dont use 100% of its cores. I guess dual channel ddr3 was bottleneck, and games cant utilize cores fully because that, even after overclocking ram to 2133mhz.
I can see it now: Christmas 2022, TYC doing a video about how the newest and best mainstream CPUs compare to the 7980xe from 2017, complaining that we've seen zero progress in 5 years... Cuz that's essentially what you're doing. No one compares a mustang from today to a supercar from the 90s.
Great information. Gonna look for that xeon. Thanks
Whats the reason behind running each of them at different speeds instead of all at the same speed?
You have my Sub for this hat. Seriously, you've made my day.
Yeah clearly someone would pay 400 dollars for a CPU, and not spend an extra 20$ on a PSU..
Do you think Noctua NH-D15S air cooler is enough to handle overclocked Xeon 1680 v2? i'm thinking between noctua or going for water cooler artic liquid freezer II 360
Very interesting test!! What about this Xeon vs Ryzen 5 3600 with a Gtx 1070 8Gb or a Gtx 980 Ti? Greetings from Germany!
I meant to add, I use the i9-10850K @ 5.2GHz, DDR-3600 (to 3800) Cl14 (Trident Z Neo) on ASUS Strix Z590-i Gaming WiFi. It feels snappy comparing to current i7-10900X on X299 or even my older i7-6950X on X99. It does get warm. However, between UEFI & Windows performance settings , you can adjust for limited cooling. I did daily gaming in ITX mini w/ compact Noctua NH-U9S dual fan for 4.8-5.0GHz
cant wait to the ryzen 3000s :D
In case you are interested the e5 2667 v2 (8c/16t) has higher clocks across all cores and at least on ebay is a lot cheaper than the e5 1680 v2. very good value if you are able to take advantage of it. Bought one myself. I also have noticed this observation of the newer cpus being pushed.
it is cheaper because it has a locked multiplier. To overclock it you need to change BLCK (max to 114MHz = 4.1GHz all cores and one core turbo at 4.5GHz).
@@FirstEver That is true, but for some people they would rather have a cheaper cpu and maybe run at stock or at least closer to it with a BLCK Overclock. For me it's a better bargain at least, usually run stock most of the time so spending 3 to 4 times is a lot just for an unlocked multiplier and it's still way better value than buying new in most cases but i do see your point.
would love to see the 1680 v3 tested, and including used in a huanan x99-ad3 with 1866 recc ddr3, it would genuinely be interesting to see how that cheap platform stacked up today and if oc was even possible or not.. the runing board with 1680 v2 would be interesting as well, just to see what the results are, and, see if theres a decent cheap upgrade path for those of us who, like myself, are disabled, or have other reasons for not having much money, i dream of ryzen, but, my 9370 is holding me for now....its a good old rig, just wish i could get more ipc, more threads and a bit lower power use.
How is it the 2689 was doing basically the same performance as the 9900k in a previous video but the 1680 v2, which is newer, OC'able, and at a much higher clock speed is not?
Odd results... the cs:go for 2700x seems low, i got about same numbers with 1700x @ 3.95, 3200 memory and R9 290x
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Excellent preparation and hard work. You make a strong point, but the markets know it, that’s why the Xeon 1680 v2 and i9 9900k are similar in pricing, but you get a new i9 in return, with accompanying gear (cheaper than X79).
I believe your analysis is absolutely correct. The CPU's are being pushed much harder from the factory. It's a good thing for people that aren't into overclocking, but don't use a terrible cooler, motherboard, and PSU. I checked out what it would cost to build the Xeon today. Nvm, lol.
built a sabertooth x79/ intel i7 3820, gskill ripjaws ddr3 1866 ram, sli gtx 560 ti, upgraded to gtx 980 xtreme back in 2012, solid machine
The Xeon compared to the i9 is only 15% price difference with MSRP for 5 years. But the performance average on these stats show an avg. of 9%-21% gain of FPS (only Intel). But based on only a 4.2% increase of (FPS / year(s)) based on given GPU used) performance per year of performance it's hard to justify making a switch if the older Xeon 1680 is keeping up somewhat with lower FPS but very playable (my bias opinion). Though I know you could play games on older hardware as this channel has shown, I'm not an avid gamer, so I'd like older systems for server use like my i7 4770k that's not that old but has a new life as a VMware ESXI server.
Thanks for part 1.
Your T-shirt's design is very good
What were the final memory clock speeds for all 3 processors? I know that faster memory clock speeds will help out the Xeon E5-1680 v2 and the 2700x. CL18 is quite high for 3600mhz memory, and 2133mhz or higher RAM breathes new life into these old Ivy Bridge processors. The 2nd and 3rd Generation Ryzen processors do their best work in gaming with PBO and manually overclocking the memory.
Is it possible to post the full system specs for each test system? RAM config and timings would be superb. I know CAS latency and frequency is mentioned, but it would be great to have at least the 4 primary timings and the voltage too. Otherwise, great video!
*Nice hat Bryan, where can i order?*
So is part 3 going to be editing software etc?
I have r5 2600 but it must be said.
If You compare intel vs amd in games then amd performance is a joke.
If You dont compare and you play games on amd then performance is just fine ;)
In benchmarks but not real world performance. Anything with a GTX 1070 or lower will basically get the same FPS at 1080p. If you have a GTX 1080 TI or a 2080 TI I would assume you be gaming at 4K or why own a $800 gpu. And at 4K they will basically score the same FPS as well.
@@JimmysTheBestCop The only GPU really viable for 4K is a 2080Ti (we consider 1080Ti as a 1440p AAA gaming card) , not to mention that strict 4K gaming is a waste of CPU firepower. You could use an dirt cheap OC'd I7 3770K/I5 4690K on 4K and it will give out very good performance when compared to an 8700K...which is like the king do gaming CPUs today.
@@JimmysTheBestCop not true, you buy 1080ti for high fps gaming which amd can't deliver as good as intel. I would never buy AMD and pair it with 144hz monitor.
AMD is solid for 1080p@60fps, 1440p@60fps and 4k@60fps but if you really need those high fps it has nothing to offer when compared to Intel.
@Damian Walczak You just described the majority of gamers. Steams most used gpu is the GTX 1060. Which is why I was talking about real world performance. The everyday normal gamer who is like 80% of the gaming market will never experience Intel's higher FPS potential over Ryzen. I agree with what you said about the 1080 TI 100% it just isn't common is all.
1440p is only at 4% and 4K at under 2% on steam. Enthusiasts are buying the top tier gear because they are into gear not necessarily gaming. Or you would see steam with higher numbers on top end hardware but you don't.
Intel isn't KING because they win at enthusiasts systems. That is just marketing. They are king because they dominate OEM systems. Both home, education, and corporate not to mention servers. No one gets fired for buying Intel. Intel doesn't have to sell 1 processor to the consumer if it didn't want. It would make no difference to their bottom line. They do it because it goes hand and hand with advertising, marketing and all of that.
@@JimmysTheBestCop Majority of HEDT and enthusiasts use intel because it is KING, well unless you count Ryzen 7nm (which as of now has rumored performance)....because as it stands intel has the fastest consumer CPU (7980XE), fastest gaming CPU (8700K), fastest server CPU (Plat 8180s)….many PC experts from Debau8er, Yes Man and even Steve put Ryzen highly (me too, they are excellent CPUs for the price per core, I built two R7 2700 systems in the past month), but at the end of the day we will use an intel CPU in our main system for many reasons.
I'm still running z97 I will have to look more into this x79 for some projects I have in mind
Que placa base recomiendas para oc en el 1680 v2? Algún link de eBay? Y he leído que se pueden poner las rams a 2400 cuales? Gracias
Would love to see a redo of this comparison with a ryzen 3700x, and the xeon using higher frequency ram
Quite interesting that the Ryzen IPC slightly beats out the now aging but awesome Xeon. If AMD manage to pull the clocks up a bit in Zen 2, give the promised further small IPC gain, and keep the prices reasonable, then putting together a new Zen 2 might be my choice for 2019. We'll see.
When the 1680 V2 is still selling for $550... That's not a great price
check ebay/aliexpress, you can get them dirt cheap if you watch, not hard to find them for 130 or less if you hit up tao bao.
but no, they arent 550usd unless you are looking at bad sources...
they are cheap because they are server pulls, and the market floods with them as upgrade cycles hit, the v3 are also a good choice with unlocked multi, but the 1680 v3 are 10core/20thread with a lower base clock...but still the multi is unlocked...so...i would love to see how they work out on both a decently accessable name brand board, and a couple of the "Better" chinese boards, the runing is actually a clone of another chinese brands board apparently thats actually a little better, tho some think thats mostly a slightly better heatsink.
anyway, its eays to find them for a very acceptable price.
Seeing 1680 v2 used for around what you'd expect to pay for a 9900K here in the UK on eBay. You'd have to get real lucky to get a good deal on a chip like that and a good X79 motherboard!
its half the 9900k price in the US. New Chinese x79 MB are 60-80$.
How is the power consumption between the three?
Thanks for you Bryan, now i'am building my first X58 system with Asus P6T-SE, Alliexpress Xeon X5680, 12 GB Triple channel ddr3 by HyperX, and gtx1070, it could reach 4,2Ghz stable, but still needs better cooler...
Curious to see how you would push an E5-2690v2 or 2697v2. Currently have an E5-2670 and want to upgrade to one of those v2's. They are currently similar price to a Ryzen 7 2700 and am considering doubling down on my X79 rig.
Brilliant! I still rock the ASUS P9X79-E WS w/ E5-1680-V2 (4.6Ghz) but even the E5-1660 1st was amazing in Auto performance boost out the box to 4.2GHz at 32G (4x8g) Trident X DDR-2400 Cl10 Cr: 1T. Strix 980-Ti in SLI then, Strix 1080-Ti later. RAM spd vs timings is a balance past 1866-2400. I uad 16G (4x4g) Mushkin RedLines 1600 @ Cl 7-9-8-24, or 8x4g as 8-9-8 1664)
Ok, so any one planning on a 1680 v2 on an unbranded mb, don't waste your money, I just dropped a 1680v2 in my 1650v2 with very slight gains. As far as overclocking goes, it won't let me oc past 3.9ghz, I was running my 1650v2 at 4.1ghz. A 1700x still scores higher, and my money would have been better spent in that direction. Update:even tho I couldn't increase the oc on the 1680v2, it did seem to perform better than the 1650v2 oc'd. I have the parts ordered for a 2700x, after bios update will probably drop in a 3900x when their prices settle down where they should be.
Hello Tech YES, good test. As for the IPC, remember that current lineup is just Skylake with more cores, so the IPC did not improve at all since 2015. Well anyway, if you are seeking the CPU with highest gaming IPC, get an I7-5775C. That one thanks to its 128MB of Edram L4 is absolute monster in games, battling with 5Ghz Coffee-lake while running on 4Ghz. Shame its overclock is pretty bad and usually stalls around 4,2Ghz, but still even there the gaming performance is monstrous.
Feels bad having built a new desktop. Overclocking is the only fun thing to do. Benchmark scores. Woo...
New games are garbage.
I spend about 15% of my time in games just changing settings. Its weird but ill switch from ultra down to like high-med just see. Or droped to res from 1440p to 1080p
Good rule of thumb is to run at 80 percent scale of your resolution. Will look just as good but performance will be much better
1:19. "I did a Qualude"? lol!
What has changed is that nowadays you can buy a CPU that is comparable to a Xeon of 5 years ago at a fraction of the price (Thanks to AMD). Hey Bryan how about Spectre & meltdown patches for these old cpus and x58/79/99 mobo? Are they protected?? didn't you need firmware Bios/Uefi patch for one of the two?
When you dropped the hammer at 8 min I laughed so hard. xD
Still rocking my 1231v3 locked at 3.8 GHz... enjoying the latest games no problem ;)
Hello tech yes city. I bought x3440 with mobo (no brand, just p55) that does not supports overclocking. Is there any way to overclock or I'm idiot that bought bad motherboard?
Love your work Tech YES!
Anyone who reads this have any experience with the e5-2630 v2 in regards to gaming performance. For the price *at the time 29.99 usd, now 36.99* it's a hell of a deal I thought and for the most part it works amazing on most games. However it is clocked at 2.9ghz all cores and locked and in a lot of titles the single core and low frequency really drag's the fps down. I am wondering if it would be an upgrade *for gaming* to go with a e5-1620 standard not v2 and try overclocking it. I will be losing out of 6 cores and now 4 but im wondering if the higher clock speeds would benifit or if it just would be about the same. the 1620 run's about 30 usd on aliexpress which is actually cheaper then the 2630v2 that I have. I am using the plexhd x79t board also and I won't be able to increase voltage only multipliers so I believe the highest I will hit is 4-4.2ghz. thanks in advance. I may end up just buying it to try myself but any input would be great! thanks!
well i hope you made up your mind by now, but the e5 1620 is basically a 2600K on a larger socket so it would still be a super solid performer for most games and tasks.
Your benchmark is the best.
This is going to be relevant after the Ryzen 3000 series landing. That will really shake up the used market.
Commanding such a large premium price is insane!
To me, AMD is just merciful, for no reason... Just imagine what an Athlon 320ge (4 cores) with a full fat Navi can bring to the table.
Let me guess ryzen 3000 will be equivalent to a 2016 CPU this time ;) . Actualy I would love your dream to be true
Tech Yes, what about a comparison of hexacore CPU's (1650 v2 vs ryzen 5 vs i7 8700k). This could be very popular due to the much more readily available and affordable stock of used x79 6-core cpu's.
Is 4,6 GHz a top tier bin, or is it achievable on most of them?
I was well excited to find all this out, until I jumped on ebay and noticed that the average price for a 1680-v2 seems to be higher than the 9900k costs :P
I feel like we havent improved in clockspeed department but in core count which is not the best thing though, apps, games needs to be optimized for more cores but cpu with higher clockspeed doesnt need any tweaks from devs to gain max possible performance boost.
love these videos
Love your stuff. I got a sabertooth x79, 3930K, gtx780, tx650w. Question: 8 x 2gig or 4 x 4gig sticks..... just a poor dirt farmer : )