Are You Sure About Buying a Frank Lloyd Wright Home?
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- There are about 20 U.S. homes for sale were designed by a man lauded by his profession as the greatest U.S. architect of all time. But such deals sometimes come with strings attached. Joann Lublin explains on Lunch Break. Photo: Jeff Anderson Custom Finishes.
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After buying a Frank Lloyd Wright home almost 2 years ago I am the second owner of the home built in 1953
all I can tell you
it's all about,
the tranquility
And the organic architecture
and forget about storing any kind of stuff that life gives you
Every day I see something different that he saw within seconds
Frankie C #masterpiece
+Frankie C We are dying to know, which house? www.wikiwand.com/en/List_of_Frank_Lloyd_Wright_works Nine are listed as designed by Wright in 1953. Fewer are said to have been built in 1953.
a true blessing. may your home be filled with love ,health and tranquility always!!
Awesome, Frankie.
People complain that his homes need so much restoration... But doesn't any home after 60 to 100 years?
One has to remember that these home were built long before TV and home entertainment. That's why in many, the focal point of the house - and certainly the room it was in - was always the fireplace. And you haven't seen a fireplace until you've seen a FLW fireplace.
I personally don’t find them dated. That’s really the beauty of these homes he designed, that they aged so perfectly.
These houses aren’t for everyone it would seem, they are for me though, just beautiful.
Owning a Frank Loyd Wright home is like owning a major work of art. If I were wealthy I would own one.
The Bachman-Wilson house ended up in NW Arkansas at the Crystal Bridges Museum. I was thrilled when the museum bought, moved, and refurbished the house. The CB museum was the brainchild of Alice Walton, of the Walmart family, and it is spectacular.
Great clips!
I live in Madison Wisconsin, the epicenter of mid-century modern. Lots of early Wright, Wright disciples, the iconic Unitarian Universalist Church masterpiece, just now completing one of several major restorations completed over recent years. All new Wright copper clad shingle rooves and rebuild of the all glass sanctuary steeple. This building is set on the near west side of downtown in a large VERY upscale area near part of the UW-MADISON campus.
A few blocks east is a glorious neighborhood with a large 1914 on a hilltop home among others. One can drive literally for hours (slowly, of course) all over the city of Madison being intoxicated with the "Wright" stuff genre architecture.
Come and visit, I'm retired, I'll give you a tour!
The Pope -Leighy house outside of DC really brought it home for me. Exquisite design. Compact, beautifully proportioned, how could anyone resist the natural consequence of being elevated in spirit and aesthetic appreciation for living in such a marvelously composed environment. Wright is America's Leonardo. Not enough is known about his architectural legacy.
Frank Lloyd Wright's problem was just being great! His works will always awaken reflections for all eternity.
So much exposure and visibility ends up massacring its original use value. This is why he was and always will be a genius!
Not sure where to put the 60” TV in a FLW home?? These homes were built around the fireplace and for conversation. But they are all interesting, everyone I visited.
FLW let the landscape dictate the design. The idea of picking it up and moving it to a different location takes away from its architectural value...
Kayena
What can I do they can't leave it there to get it flooded and ruined again
gardensofthegods
Move the river.....
Kurt Vonfricken
In this day and age and with the kind of money some people have .. you never know
gardensofthegods
On of the French kings ( perhaps Louie 14) did it at Versailles.
Kurt Vonfricken
Yes but wasn't that a little creek or tributary
Although there are a multitude of FLW houses, only 13 received his red tile for following the plans exactly as he envisioned. With at least two of those being his own residence, that leaves roughly 10 for the rest of us. Would love to score one of this
Lauren Gora visited his home and studio today, from his first wife. Was surprised how light it was inside.
great to know.thanks for sharing
I saw his actual house and the Dana Thomas house and they both were amazing
A FLW Home would force you to downgrade your belongings which is a great thing I’ll bet. Simpler living at it’s finest.
You could just live in a van or a trailer home and not pay three million dollars.
Terena Rosa LOL
@@terenarosa4790 The most incredible architect ever. Thought completely outside the box. There are people with that kind of money which is a great thing. Someone has to save these masterpieces. Your comment is correct too though!
In my area I saw people just demolish them then build a McMansion. You can't account for taste.
Probably not real FLW houses then. There's plenty of "prairie style" homes that were not by Frank Lloyd Wright . The reason he's important is that he had a host of followers who all built one story, spread out houses with large overhanging roofs. He defined how housing would look in suburban America.
Hopefully not a real Frank Lloyd Wright house.
Just curious where you have seen this done.. what town in what state ?
@@gardensofthegods nothappendville. But plenty Frank Loyd's building where demolish. I believe the last one it was a medical clinic in Montana. Money still has the last word .
@@vladnickul yes and I know that Marlo Thomas convinced her husband Phil Donahue who used to be a TV journalist to help her get their local town to tear down one that was right near them that was abandoned
@@vladnickul by falling water there are 4 Wright houses
At least two were taken apart and moved there. I think they are moving another one. You can visit them.
I thought water flowing through the house was one of his design features???
This comment . LOL .
Only the Falling Water house....lol. It actually was about to fall into the water before a million dollar foundation repair was done.
Mr Wright did build an artificial stream running through Aline Barnsdal's Hollyhock House in Hollywood, CA, but it just filled up with leaves & twigs and had to be blocked off around 1920.
@@billolsen4360 Interesting. I guess Wright was the only architect who could get away with some of the more extreme and sometimes faulty designs he came up with. Maybe that's why Ms. Barnsdal fired him.
@@carpediem6568
Multi-million.
"Are You Sure About Buying a Frank Lloyd Wright Home" Yes. Yes, I am. And I did. And it's perfect. So thanks, Daniel and Jill...
Did you buy this one? Please let us know how you dealt with it, if so!
@@srbh41413 I bought this FLLW home, The Stuart Richardson House (1941) - www.zillow.com/homes/38654727_zpid/?view=public - and I don't know exactly what you mean when you say "...how you dealt with it..."? There's nothing to "deal with", contrary to Joanne Lublin's ridiculous assertions in this WSJ video that FLLW homes are "..Not built for our contemporary taste...you're not going to find a lot of amenities like you would in a twenty-first century house...". FLLW's homes literally *created* our "contemporary taste" - the whole idea of the standard ranch house that has spread like a virus across the US has its roots entirely developed in FLLW's earlier Usonian home designs that he first conceptualized and built in the late 1930s. The "amenities" that Lublin refers to such as carports, radiant in-floor heating, and open floor plans were also all FLLW inventions. This WSJ video is a perfect illustration that people shouldn't opine on things they don't know about, and just zip it instead... Todd
@@toddlevin your house is wonderful. Complimenti.
The idea of living in this house is emotional for me.
Frank Lloyd Wright may have been considered an artist whose medium was building material, but in at least a couple of his allegedly great works he was not much of an engineer. His famous Johnson's Wax building had a roof leak right in the office of the head boss. He had to keep a wastebasket to put on his desk to catch the roof leak when it rained. His well known house Falling Water has required much structural shoring up over the years to keep it from Falling In The Water.
I believe the home was successfully moved. Wonderful!
If anyone has to ask how much they probably couldn't afford it. I think someone who wanted one of his houses is most likely a money is no issue kind of person. They just want the house, and they have tons of money, period. If you have to think or worry about mortgage payments............... um, no, you're not even considering in your wildest imaginings about buying one of his houses, like most of us.
so so true.. im one of hose people. i wanted one of his masterpieces no matter what..
+Daniel Thaler That's not always true. The sale price of many Wright houses is not unusually high, especially if a house is located in a market that has not seen the huge rise in prices that we have seen in east and west coast markets.
It seems expensive but there are exotic cars that cost WAY more than to move such a building, and one of the biggest complaint about the cars are the electronic that are going to be nearly impossible to service in 30-50 years. Where are you going to get the rare battery packs for these exotic hybrids that have maybe 200 cars in their production line for instance.
I love Wright's homes, but expecting someone to pay to have the home taken apart and reconstructed as part of the sale is absurd.
I have admired, extolled the great architect for many years.
It turns his creations were never inhabited by those who paid in extravagance for very long.
They are now glorious museums enabling tours.
It seems no one could stand living in a Wright house.
Why? They were built for the architect. The inhabitants were not comfortable living in a masterpiece that constantly told them how to live, what to appreciate.
No one could stand his imposing terms after they paid handsomely for it.
I call it captivity in a mad, artist's dream.
Almost all are museums like the Bavarian Castle.
A beautiful folly.
Steve Hinnenkamp
Can this be true...?
Ouch!
I'd drop EVERYTHING in a minute to live in a Wright home!!!
I'll start with Fallingwater near Pittsburgh!
@@chrisk8187 Beautiful but built as a weekend retreat not a year-round home. Lots of moisture and hearing problems in that place.
"No one could stand his imposing terms" poppycock. Owners almost universally loved the houses because they are brilliantly designed..
After 1910 Wright increasingly pushed the technical envelope to extremes. This led to some of his most important works, like the Johnson Wax building and Fallingwater. But it possed my challenges to the owners of these buildings. The Johnson Wax building is particularly fragile.
His designs were far in advance of materials and processes available to construct. Remember an architect designs but it’s up to the contractors in engineers to construct.
In particular flat roof construction (some thing writes designs often used) and waterproofing methods have advanced mightily in over 100 years.
Every time I buy a FLW house I totally have to stop and ask my self this!
I think for buildings like that the government should keep it as historical architecture instead having it been sold with all these tedious requirements that the buyer or owner has to contend with.
Watching this from my garage workshop! And I’m an architect by the way.
he felt basements were a waste ! I can do more with my basement than most people would ever imagine
Down on the Texas Gulf Coast basements are a waste of time. They tend to fill with water.
‘They are not build for our contemporary taste?? ‘
Lol what taste.
it seems to me that we no longer have any taste .
People cherish BIG closet space. For moneyed older people that can downsize, YES the hallways and elevations are not ADA friendly. No garage for expensive or green friendly wheels. Some of the homes built where planned with wallspaces that prohibited hanging artwork on. These homes are valuable to visitors, and are a treasure to behold. At least these landmarks that survive can inspire us, and the lucky people that can hire an architect that can design a Frank Lloyd Wright, Art Moderne, or Midcentuy Modern home for todays demands.
I remember years ago it was either Phil Donahue or his wife Marlo Thomas trying to explain why they convinced their town to destroy a Frank Lloyd house that had never finished being built.
It was nearby their home and often the place of vandalism and teenagers hanging out in it.
Too bad with all their money and influence and connections they couldn't have tried to get an architect to finish designing and building it and then get the house sold so it could be lived in.
No it wouldn't have happened overnight but they could have gotten the right people to accomplish this rather than tearing down the place
ROCKS FOR THE WINDOWS
relatively short ceiling heights in usually a fairly significant amount of the interior spaces - go Neutra if you can.......
I can appreciate these homes . But I would never buy one
It's really very simple, if you don't like the house, don't buy the house. There's no need to go on and on about how different Wright homes are, you can't help but see it as soon as you get near one. As for lack of basement, and attic, the people in the video are acting like everybody needs those spaces to store their valuable stuff. What a load of bologna. 90% of the stuff people store is pure junk that they will never use again, ever. They have emotional problems and can't admit they wasted their money buying all that junk.
Gorgeous!
Frank's creations are not homes, they are works of art. I has the privilege to repair some problems on one in Norman Oklahoma when I was an apprentice plumber/electrician in 1993. It felt like walking into a work of art. There are several homes in Norman that he designed.
...IMHO: "Our Contemporary Tastes" SUCK!!!!!! Frank Lloyd Wright was >1000 years ahead of his time!!!!!
YES!!
Wright houses are great houses, for their time. Unfortunately people do not live like Wright intended many years ago. I guess you could live in the house but you need a garage for all of your other stuff.
hoarder
Beauty and practically aren't always stablemates. To paraphrase Wright himself.. "All my life I've been bruised by chairs I've designed."
Yes.
I like narrow walkways.
They can keep it
theres a frank lloyude wright house at my town.;.lancaster,wi
Well if you have three million and the cost for deconstruction, moving and reconstruction is steep, two to three million for the house alone IS NOT IRRELEVANT!
I thought from the way she phrased it that the owners were giving the house away if you agreed to move it, but I guess not.
@@robertbrandywine
That’s what it sounded like to me as well. She specifically said it would likely run $3 million total.
I heard one is haunted can't remember which one it is think it is in Florida not sure.
Patricia Curnutt
Of all his houses you would think the one in Wisconsin would be haunted.. Taliesin... there was a mass murder there back around 1914 where his mistress and her children and several workers were all murdered with an axe by a worker there who went berserk.
His wife tried to keep it suppressed from the news and in a short amount of time he had another girlfriend .
That's the Sowden House designed by his son Llyod, infamous for the Black Dahlia murder.
Wouldn't it be easier to build a levy than to deconstruct and move the house?
Do these houses even have electrical outlets? Where are you going to charge the I phone?
I worked on a Frank Lloyd Wright house in Beverly Hills. It leaked all the time. They didn't know how to pour concrete like we do now. If the lawn sprinklers came on it would leak into the basement.
What house was that? When I lived in LA I took a number of FLLW house tours and can't place one in Beverly Hills.
The Pyramid off of Cold Water Canyon.
@@costakarras7293 Oh, that place in Malibu? Old Mr Wright didn't design that, maybe his son Lloyd or grandson Eric.
@@billolsen4360 No Beverly Hills off of Sunset.
@@costakarras7293 Thanks, I'll look for it! All I thought he'd built in Beverly Hills was that retail complex on Rodeo.
Many of these homes look like they were built today.....I don't agree that these homes are dated. And many people today are dying for retro Kitchens. To each their own......
Any house that had 6 feet of water in it, multiple times….needs to be tested for toxic mold
The homes are a work of art but are not very comfortable. Typically they were drafty with no insulation in the walls. Also they were very expensive to upkeep. Most Wright homes were eventually demolished.
You have to remember in the early part of his career homes were built with actual plaster walls not plaster board. The plaster was laid over wire and board base was 3/4 of an inch thick all of that alone is quite insulating. The air cavity was considered to be enough insulating space.
In fact that construction was continue to be common up into the 60s. Many homes were retro insulated by drilling holes in interior or exterior walls and filling the cavities with cellulose or foam. I owned such a home and had to have such a procedure done in the Midwest.
"Most Wright homes were eventually demolished." pfft. ha ha no.
Super pricy and super crazy terms.
The Sowden House is so creepy.
No thank you. As much as I love "most" of his houses there are the almost unlivable qualities of his designs.
I'd prefer to build a modern construction home with FLW design elements and overall style.
Prefabricated, with modern conveniences like closets and insulated windows.
Just my 2 cents.
I recently watched a video tour of a house designed by FLW's last living apprentice which is modern but incorporates a lot of his design elements. It's called "Inside a $7.5 Million Dollar Lake Las Vegas Modern Mansion" if you want to check it out.
I guess buying a Frank Lloyd Wright house is just plain Frank Lloyd Wrong.
Buying old, overpriced homes is a mistake. If you had a million dollars, the contemporary, tech-ready, smart homes are the best choice.
The premium you pay for today's "smart homes" could be lost as technology advances beyond that what is built in.
@@billolsen4360 Upgrade. The Wright homes and others like them had no modern technology but can still be upgraded at a cost.
Youd think she would shave that mustache for the interview.
Many women have hyperpigmentation in that area even if they shave. So on camera it would still look like the stache is there even if it's not. You could bleach the area, but it will cause skin cancer, blue spots, wrinkles and eventually the skin will be darker than before. Even if you used makeup it will still show unless you color correct it with orange or peach concealer, depending on your skin tone, and then follow up with heavy foundation. Women of her age can't wear heavy foundation without looking terrifying though. It will settle into every crease and fold giving them a very dirty melted wax figure look. It's best that she kept things natural instead of getting cancer or looking like melted wax monster, yes?
And this is the guy that gave us the maxim "form follows function". You'd think his forms would be a bit more functional for real people to actually live in. The maxim is revealed to be a mere rationalization for his new forms.
dlwatib Louis Sullivan coined the term, not FLW
You're right, of course, but it doesn't really matter. FLW was a protege of Sullivan and much more prolific and famous. Without FLW, few would remember Sullivan or his phrase.
Frank's philosophy was diametrically opposed to the concept of "form follows function". He saw form and function working in unison. "Form and function as one." -Frank Lloyd Wright, A Tesatment, page 36
That was Louis H. Sullivan who said that.
You probably don't need anything in that storage unit if you own a home of this size already.
You’re unaware there’s not a lot of closets in many of his homes. If you start to clutter up a Wright design home ,which is predicated on open spaces, you’ll begin to look like a hoarder.
They don't look like homes. They look like schools. Nothing cozy about them.
Steve jobs of houses.i bet he lived in 1
People are spending $3M for a sheet of glass and three white walls in NYC and SF.!!! ( for the VIEW). Have we completely lost our sense of aesthetic and history? These women are clueless. A FLW home is not a pair of shoes.
"you'll get their advice for free" - UMMMMM no thanks.
How do u move a house
Jack it up, very carefully, and put a trailer under it.
These world more likely be somewhat dismantled and reconstructed at a new location
They told you in the video...key word is 'deconstruction'. It would be taken apart, and shipped in its component pieces and then reconstructed on another site.
spoiled materialist people need room for their 300 playstations and big TVs. But i have to admi those kitchens of his are rather small..not to tell about room for heating utilities
Matej Kamenicky
For a family of 2-3 children, it's enough. Large kitchens with island tables aren't really necessary unless you're going to film a cooking vlog or you're a professional chef.
@@jonathantan2469 Yes these big gourmet kitchens with 8 burners on the stove help sell the house, but you have to keep remodeling them every few years, so they're also a negative to maintaining your investment.
Most wealth clients don't want the house they want the property the most foolish people they don't realise someone would gladly pay for the house dismantle it and take it to some other location . the running joke is does your Flw house leak . I must say frank lloyd wright didn't know about how to build a proper roof given the technology at the time no wonder what they leek like a sieve wonder what his thoughts about that? or if he knew about that problem.
It is my understanding that the homes that have issues with leaks are the ones where the contractors deviated from FLW plans.
They look nice, but I prefer more traditional homes.
Mmm you can. Keep it. That junk house
These folks have no soul
Sounds like he designed pretty useless spaces
more old junk
These houses are so ugly. Why are they so expensive? Because of a name?
It's a cult. It's all hype.
Those houses are far nicer than modern tastes.