Thanks so much for this very helpful video. Just completed replacing the Rear Coil Springs on my 2007 Sienna. I want to stress to others who haven't done this job yet that you only need to remove the lower portion of the rear shocks if your shocks are good (mine are only 2 years old). If you haven't replaced the rear shocks yet, it would be worth it to do it at same time you are doing the rear coils. I also want to stress the importance of first removing the bolt holding the ABS sensor on each side, then lowering the control arms on BOTH sides before removing the coils....makes more room for the coils to pop out easier....then place each coil in on both sides before recompressing and bolting the shocks. I also recommend using anti-seize on the treads of the lower shock bolt. Good luck!
Your video and instructions are UNBELIEVABLY great! I’m NOT a mechanic, but I was able to fix my sienna by following your step-by-step instructions, which are very easy to follow. Thank you for making such a well-made video!
Thank you so much for this great video. It helped me a lot. I have a 2008 Sienna here with 180,000 miles. The passenger side spring was broken near the base and both rear control arms were corroding pretty bad. I wire brushed away and washed the control arms multiple times with soapy water then sprayed rust converter followed by a flat black hard enamel rust paint. We'll see if that buys me a few more years of life. Anyways had no issues removing the old equipment - the old springs were rusted into their seats so I had to work them more, use my trusty flat heat screwdriver and a couple of different sized pry bars but I got'em. The old shocks, although heavily corroded, actually performed pretty good. The replacement springs were Moogs (box cut) and seemed heavier than the ones being replaced (which were tapered). For the life of me I could not get those springs to seat so I rented a coil spring compressor tool from Canadian Tire (which if you don't damage and return within 3 days becomes a free rental - keep all your paperwork!). After fiddling around with the the spring compressor to figure out how to best use it and making sure the bolt head that you turn to compress is pretty much centered I compressed the springs about 3/4" of an inch - that was enough to get them to seat - and thankfully both spring installs mirrored each other very well. Then I washed up the original shock dust boots, squished in the the new shocks 3 times each (letting them fully extend in-between) and got some extra hands to feed the shock in to start the nuts. From there on it was pretty close to the rest of your video. Except I needed to used a small 2x4 chunk and mallet to tap the shocks onto their mounting studs. Thanks Again!
You ever watch a video and the person that's instructing you on how to do it makes it look so easy that you want to run out and start your own project? My friend this job looked so easy as you were doing it I'm confident that following your instructions I can do it too. Thanks
I agree with David Breiner on this one. Just unbolt the lower portion of the shock, disconnect the ABS line, and go for it. My shocks aren't that old and still feel really strong. My mechanic whom I trust with much, wanted $400 to do this job which only cost me $83 for the new springs. The back end sits up higher now. (My old springs were broken.) And it rides much better! Thanks for the video, it helped a lot!
Great Video. Had a quote from Dealer to replace (1) broken spring, $700. Ordered the springs, and 2 shocks from Advanced for $272 and took me an hour an half to complete. 2006 Sienna with 186,000 1st time changing spring or struts. Thanks again.
Great video! Followed your instructions and it worked beautifully! Just changed rear springs and shocks on my 06 Sienna. Thank you so much for this extremely helpful video!!!
thanks! Worked for my 2010 Sienna. Had to remove two bolts on each side to not stress the ABS cable. And I wasn't strong enough to push the springs in on my own and needed an assistant to put weight on the rotor to flex it down enough. In the end it was on the easier side of auto repair. Thank you!!
You sir are a legend! Just saved me a ton of money after just getting off the phone with my mechanic. Both of my springs rusted and broke. Guess I’ll be doing springs this weekend.
To be honest, I thought this was going to be alot worse than what you showed. I think I got myself a project one of these weekends. Crazy how that shock just sits in there like that, just held in by tension! Thanks so much for making the video!
2015 Sienna had 17mm nut at the top with metric allen key to stop rotation of the shaft. 19mm nut at bottom still, I torqued it to 85 ft-lbs. The new shocks are feeling great, thanks for the video! Took me a couple hours including finding a breaker bar (used a straight bar off my hammock stand) and test driving it before re-torquing everything.
Any chance you took measurements on the rear Springs? ID, OD, and unsprung height. Looking to use dimensions to match moog on shelf springs for greater spring rate to handle full bikebrack
Pep Boys quoted $1300 for both springs and installation on a 2005 Sienna LE FWD. They said it was also labor intensive ant two hours and very dangerous. I’d imagine that on other vehicles this may be the case, but I was surprised how DIY this appears for the Sienna and based on the comments here. I found the parts (Moog) for $84 and will try to install them soon. I had already replaced the shocks recently but didn’t realize the springs were gone until I went to PB to get a new set of tires. Just a few added tips:: 1. If possible (sometimes the plastic puts up a fight), carefully disconnect the speed sensors from the wheel hubs. Use a pick or a small flat head to push the tab in order to pull them away. 2. In other videos (TRQ has a good series on Siennas), the tech removes the shocks by actually pushing upwards just a small amount on the control arm in order to help relieve pressure on the lower portion of the shock. Of course, this would require you to have another jack (perhaps a bottle jack might help) since both tires need to be removed in order to lower the entire control arm for spring removal. Then again, mine seemed to have come out easily just like yours did. 3. I think you’re struggling with the upper part of the shocks. My 2005 LE shocks (both original and replacements) have a spot on top of the shocks that fit a hex wrench, so when you’re loosening up the bolts, the hex wrench keeps it all in place so you don’t have to go fishing for bolts and washers. 4. Upper shock torque is 22 ft-lbs. If you can’t get a torque wrench in there a very good snug will hit that but I prefer to always follow specs. 5. Lower shock torque is 85 ft-lbs. I would never skimp on having proper torque. 6. I read a comment somewhere else where someone used white paint at the top of the spring and the bottom to help better see how the springs should align. 6. lug nuts are 76 ft-lbs torque.
Man I really appreciate your video, I’m going to replace the rear axle bushing and trying to figure out how to take the springs out. Btw, I’ll be working on 99 Sienna with 115k, my wife wants to get rid of it but the motor is awesome V6 3.0L 1 MZ-FE. Once again thank you.
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What you mean to say is not only dis-connect the lower shock mounts on both sides .....but to get the rear of the car up in the air jacked up on both sides in the back ( with jackstands finally).... AND THEN.... disconnect the lower shock mounts. These two actions together will allow the suspension to drop more to get the springs out. Also....once this is done and you slightly force the suspension further down to allow the old spring to come out..... BE CAFEFUL not to over-extend the flex brake line and maybe the ABS sensor line.... your focus will be to get the spring out ....and you might not "see" that you are damaging these areas. Just now saw your point about the top shock washer "popping" out and needing a magnet, etc. The shocks are gas-pressureized so better to take off the BOTTOM mounts first....THEN the top mounts...so that "pop" won't happen. Cheers.
I would tend to agree that disconnecting the bottom shock from the control arm would make the job a little easier... or removing the top nut while the rear wheels are still on the ground could also work as well. Thanks for your comments!
Thanks for uploading this video. You make it look easy. I have a 2004 Seinna and the rear tires are slanted in and scraping the inner plastic. My friend who does great mechanic work told me that replacing the struts and springs should take care of the problem. He said there is no camber adjustment. Is that correct? All the Sienna videos I checked show how to adjust the camber.
Great tutorial video. I noticed the old shock had a protective boot over the chrome shaft but the new shock did not have a protective boot. I asume road grime and debris can get on chrome shaft damaging it. Any idea why there was no boot on new shock?
Thanks for your post! Yes .. The new Monroe shocks didn't come with a dust boot but it doesn't matter to me. They're lifetime warranted and boots provide limited wear protection ...IMHO.
If you remove the top mount with the wheel on the nut/washer won't go flying. I figured that out first hand. This video is really helpful with the spring. That's my next project, I should have replaced both shock and spring at the same time
I also thought about putting support under control arm so when you release the strut nut it won't fly because you eliminate the coil spring pressure down ...
Great video. For the AWD sienna, it is much harder as the rear axles are in the way. You would have to unbolt the axles from the differential side, drop the rear differential and exhaust a little bit and support it otherwise the trailing arm doesn't go low enough for the spring to come out.
I saw your video and I appreciate the step-by-step instructions. I was planning on putting an Air Lift LoadLifter 5000 Ultimate Air Helper Springs with Internal Jounce Bumpers, but after looking at the video and the video that the sales vendor had on their site, the entire suspension setup is different from what I saw. I have a 2005 Toyota Sienna too, but I think that the vendor for the Air Lift suspension was using some sort of truck suspension, because I didn't see and leaf suspension parts for the Toyota Sienna on your video. I will have to take a look and see if there is another type of heavy duty suspension kit that I can buy for the Toyota Sienna. I plan on hauling a concession trailer, that's why I am starting to plan for the added weight that I am about to haul with the mini van. Since I can't afford to buy a truck just yet, the minivan will have to do. The good thing is that I am not going too far with the concession trailer, if anything 3 to 10 miles at the most. Again, thank you for your video.
Any issues installing them up side down? Moog says white mark goes up but the spring is the same on either end. Asking because I just finished the job and looked at the box "white dot up"😂
Thanks for your video it looks very simple I'm getting ready to change out the suspension all around 2009 Toyota Sienna. Where did you get the Monroe set springs and suspension.. Thanks
I havent done the springs yet, but when I load the van up the hitch will hit off the ground when I go over bumps is there anyway to prevent this? I'm ok with a rockier ride if it involves stiffer springs. Thanks in advance
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Does that Moog PN fit the 2015 Sienna. I can't find a single aftermarket spring for the 2015 and I wonder if there is some error in the listed compatability
Wow, that skips something like 15 steps from the Service Manual, but looked good. For the AWD they even have you "remove propeller w/center bearing shaft assy" and then both rear drive shafts. I'm wondering if a spring compressor would make life easier. I just replaced the springs on my 4runner, and had to do a fair amount of prying...but it was only 4 pages in the FSM, not 9 plus references to other areas.
Thanks for your comments. As you can see from the video, no need to brake out spring compressors. I wonder about the people who write repair procedures.
@@hardlymovingpro The FSM doesn't include the use of spring compressors, but if doing such would need less opening of suspension height/space, and so some steps could be skipped, it would be worth it. Half of the steps are just undoing wires and brake lines to give some slack so you don't put stress on them or ruin them. But the AWD specific steps will add some time if they are really needed.
Curious question regarding the rear trail arm bushing. My bushing looks the same as it appears its coming out towards the inner part of car. Is that the case? I am wondering if that is how they are supposed to look.
I disconnected the bolt holding the ABS cable after I disconnected the shocks. The driver's side had very little tension but the passenger had a lot of tension Now the ABS, VSC, TRAC, AND brake light came on. It turns off and then will come back off a couple of times. I did the work yesterday. Any suggestions.
Nice video ! If you remove the top shock nut first and the bottom control arm compressed the washer shouldn't pop off. Do you know if you can buy longer shocks and longer front struts to raise the Toyota Sienna other than putting on spacers.
@@hardlymovingpro 5:46 If there is a dust boot, the shiny silver top part of the shock wouldn't have been visible. The purpose of it is to protect that top part from having dust settled on it and going inside the shock afterwards
Canuck here, 2010 Sienna with 175000 kms (108739 miles), thinking of replacing same parts as rear seems to be low all the time. . Curious to know if rear ride height improved after install?
@@prazav8 Actually you should compare the height of the rear end against the front to determine if the front end is too low. If the front can't be adjusted higher, you may need to get new torsion bar keys and replace them along with the other suspension components.
@@hardlymovingpro Thanks for quick answer. I´m more concerned about the rear end, thus wanted to compare your ride height after installation of new parts with height of my car to get idea at what stage are my components.
If you're referring to the bottom of the shocks, there are slipped on to the control arm shock studs and held in place with nuts (not bolts). The nuts prevent the lower shocks from moving around on the stud and therefore do not require high torque fastening. The top of the shocks are secured to the chassis via bushings and shock nuts. The nylon nuts are tighten until they bottom out onto the shock stud. The nylon is there to prevent the nut from loosening off.
In your opinion if a 2001 Sienna has a problem bottoming out on bumps in the road would you predict shocks or springs is the main problem. Vehicle 120 k miles all original. Thanks, Jeff
If bottoming out on the rear end ... yes, I'd say at a minimum the shocks are gone. Just push down on the rear bumper with your feet and let go ... then push again and see if its bouncing up and down. You can determine if the rear springs are shot but measuring the distance from the ground to the top inner lip of the rear wheel well... then compare the distance with the front end wheel well.
I have a 2008 8pass sienna fwd. All suspension parts for 8 pass are the same as the awd. But the rear springs only say awd or fwd. Which should i order?
@@hardlymovingpro the rear springs are different for awd and fwd. But all other components for the 8 pass fwd are the awd part numbers. But the rear springs do not specify the difference.
Do you know if the AWD springs can be used on a FWD without causing any problems? I would like to get as much height as I can because my drawtite hitch drags more than I think it should. Thanks for the easy to follow video. Also what shocks do you recommend?
Where did you find aftermarket springs? I could not find them at all at rockauto.com, 1aauto.com, nor at Amazon. The price at a dealership is $180 per piece.
@@hardlymovingpro is it the same part number springs for the 2011 and later siennas? The Moog springs you linked don't list as being compatable past 2010.
I am more confused now as to which parts I actually needed to replace. I took the strut out and it is still in good condition. And the coil spring looks good too. But my ride is rough and bumpy. I run a small business and I over load car often. Can the coil spring be bad while still looking physically good ?
Did you measure the height of the rear end relative to the front end before you removed the springs? The new springs job is to restore the ride height. When you removed the old shocks, did you attempt to compress them? Worn shocks may compress down too easy or too hard. The important thing is the rebound. If there's little to no rebound, that means the nitrogen has escaped out of the shock(s) and only the springs will pull the shock stems back up. If that's the case, you vehicle will have a very rough ride.
Hardly Moving Productions Yes I compressed the shock and did a side by side comparison with the new one, it come right back out just like the new one. The coil spring doesn’t impact the ride comfort? Just the height ? Appreciate your reply! Thanks.
Is there a specific way the spring should go? Should the more open end go up or on the bottom? I am using moog replacement and are not flat like the toyota brand but know friends that have used these on sienna as well. If the bottom coil isn't 100% in the drive but pretty close is that ok?
The ones replaced in the video were Moogs. Don't recall if the Moog springs were different enough where you can tell the difference between the bottom or top. The bottom end of where the coil ends (regardless of one end or the other) should be rotated until it seats against the end of the grove in the spring seat. It's all shown in the video.
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@@hardlymovingpro thank you for replying me, yes I meant the arm pushing, but the mechanic told me the I need to change the support arm differential because it's arm pushing damage, do you think that I need to change the support arm differential just because it's arm pushing damaged? Thank you
@@karambiler349 Tell him for now that you only want the springs and shocks replaced. That when you have the money you'll replace the control arm later. Or --- bring the car to another repair shop for a 2nd opinion. If they say everything is okay, don't go back to the shop that tried to up sell you unnecessary work.
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Thanks so much for this very helpful video. Just completed replacing the Rear Coil Springs on my 2007 Sienna. I want to stress to others who haven't done this job yet that you only need to remove the lower portion of the rear shocks if your shocks are good (mine are only 2 years old). If you haven't replaced the rear shocks yet, it would be worth it to do it at same time you are doing the rear coils. I also want to stress the importance of first removing the bolt holding the ABS sensor on each side, then lowering the control arms on BOTH sides before removing the coils....makes more room for the coils to pop out easier....then place each coil in on both sides before recompressing and bolting the shocks. I also recommend using anti-seize on the treads of the lower shock bolt. Good luck!
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How do you know that the rear spring need to be replaced?
Do you have AWD?
Your video and instructions are UNBELIEVABLY great! I’m NOT a mechanic, but I was able to fix my sienna by following your step-by-step instructions, which are very easy to follow. Thank you for making such a well-made video!
Thanks and check out our other videos...You won't be disappointed!
Won't using an internal spring compressor help when installing a spring in an AWD?
Thank you so much for this great video. It helped me a lot. I have a 2008 Sienna here with 180,000 miles. The passenger side spring was broken near the base and both rear control arms were corroding pretty bad. I wire brushed away and washed the control arms multiple times with soapy water then sprayed rust converter followed by a flat black hard enamel rust paint. We'll see if that buys me a few more years of life. Anyways had no issues removing the old equipment - the old springs were rusted into their seats so I had to work them more, use my trusty flat heat screwdriver and a couple of different sized pry bars but I got'em. The old shocks, although heavily corroded, actually performed pretty good. The replacement springs were Moogs (box cut) and seemed heavier than the ones being replaced (which were tapered). For the life of me I could not get those springs to seat so I rented a coil spring compressor tool from Canadian Tire (which if you don't damage and return within 3 days becomes a free rental - keep all your paperwork!). After fiddling around with the the spring compressor to figure out how to best use it and making sure the bolt head that you turn to compress is pretty much centered I compressed the springs about 3/4" of an inch - that was enough to get them to seat - and thankfully both spring installs mirrored each other very well. Then I washed up the original shock dust boots, squished in the the new shocks 3 times each (letting them fully extend in-between) and got some extra hands to feed the shock in to start the nuts. From there on it was pretty close to the rest of your video. Except I needed to used a small 2x4 chunk and mallet to tap the shocks onto their mounting studs. Thanks Again!
Thanks for sharing you experience installing new springs! How does the Sienna ride now?
You ever watch a video and the person that's instructing you on how to do it makes it look so easy that you want to run out and start your own project? My friend this job looked so easy as you were doing it I'm confident that following your instructions I can do it too. Thanks
Thanks for your comments and good luck with the repair!
I agree with David Breiner on this one. Just unbolt the lower portion of the shock, disconnect the ABS line, and go for it. My shocks aren't that old and still feel really strong. My mechanic whom I trust with much, wanted $400 to do this job which only cost me $83 for the new springs. The back end sits up higher now. (My old springs were broken.) And it rides much better! Thanks for the video, it helped a lot!
Glad it worked out for you! I've noticed that when the springs sag, the shocks are usually shot.
I was able to change my dad's shock absorbers and springs due to this video. Thank you clear instructions and taking time to film your process!
I forgot to add that he has a 2000 Sienna. Thanks again!
Excellent! Glad it helped!
Great Video. Had a quote from Dealer to replace (1) broken spring, $700. Ordered the springs, and 2 shocks from Advanced for $272 and took me an hour an half to complete. 2006 Sienna with 186,000 1st time changing spring or struts. Thanks again.
Thanks for sharing your story and glad the video helped!
Great video! Followed your instructions and it worked beautifully! Just changed rear springs and shocks on my 06 Sienna.
Thank you so much for this extremely helpful video!!!
Good for you!
thanks! Worked for my 2010 Sienna. Had to remove two bolts on each side to not stress the ABS cable. And I wasn't strong enough to push the springs in on my own and needed an assistant to put weight on the rotor to flex it down enough. In the end it was on the easier side of auto repair. Thank you!!
Glad it all worked out for you! Thanks for sharing your experience.
You sir are a legend! Just saved me a ton of money after just getting off the phone with my mechanic. Both of my springs rusted and broke. Guess I’ll be doing springs this weekend.
Good luck with the repair. Not difficult.
Thank you for this video it was really clear and you saved me about $500!. Put Moog springs in worked great. Thx again
Glad it helped and saved you $$$!
Thank you for this. Because of this video, I was able to replace both the springs and shocks in an hour and a half, from start to finish.
Good for you!
Appreciate the video, really saved me time even changing just one of the rear springs out. Thanks again.
Thanks ... no problem Joel. Glad the video helped you out.
To be honest, I thought this was going to be alot worse than what you showed. I think I got myself a project one of these weekends. Crazy how that shock just sits in there like that, just held in by tension!
Thanks so much for making the video!
You bet!
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2015 Sienna had 17mm nut at the top with metric allen key to stop rotation of the shaft.
19mm nut at bottom still, I torqued it to 85 ft-lbs.
The new shocks are feeling great, thanks for the video!
Took me a couple hours including finding a breaker bar (used a straight bar off my hammock stand) and test driving it before re-torquing everything.
Good for you and thanks for sharing!
Any chance you took measurements on the rear Springs?
ID, OD, and unsprung height.
Looking to use dimensions to match moog on shelf springs for greater spring rate to handle full bikebrack
No I did not.
@@BrettJGoff AWD springs have a little higher weight capacity.
Pep Boys quoted $1300 for both springs and installation on a 2005 Sienna LE FWD. They said it was also labor intensive ant two hours and very dangerous. I’d imagine that on other vehicles this may be the case, but I was surprised how DIY this appears for the Sienna and based on the comments here. I found the parts (Moog) for $84 and will try to install them soon. I had already replaced the shocks recently but didn’t realize the springs were gone until I went to PB to get a new set of tires.
Just a few added tips::
1. If possible (sometimes the plastic puts up a fight), carefully disconnect the speed sensors from the wheel hubs. Use a pick or a small flat head to push the tab in order to pull them away.
2. In other videos (TRQ has a good series on Siennas), the tech removes the shocks by actually pushing upwards just a small amount on the control arm in order to help relieve pressure on the lower portion of the shock. Of course, this would require you to have another jack (perhaps a bottle jack might help) since both tires need to be removed in order to lower the entire control arm for spring removal. Then again, mine seemed to have come out easily just like yours did.
3. I think you’re struggling with the upper part of the shocks. My 2005 LE shocks (both original and replacements) have a spot on top of the shocks that fit a hex wrench, so when you’re loosening up the bolts, the hex wrench keeps it all in place so you don’t have to go fishing for bolts and washers.
4. Upper shock torque is 22 ft-lbs. If you can’t get a torque wrench in there a very good snug will hit that but I prefer to always follow specs.
5. Lower shock torque is 85 ft-lbs. I would never skimp on having proper torque.
6. I read a comment somewhere else where someone used white paint at the top of the spring and the bottom to help better see how the springs should align.
6. lug nuts are 76 ft-lbs torque.
Thanks for sharing!
TY so much for your video tutorial, you just enlightened us on what's going on with our rear end......
Glad it helped you out!
Man I really appreciate your video, I’m going to replace the rear axle bushing and trying to figure out how to take the springs out. Btw, I’ll be working on 99 Sienna with 115k, my wife wants to get rid of it but the motor is awesome V6 3.0L 1 MZ-FE. Once again thank you.
You bet and good luck working on your Sienna ... it's a great SUV!
Thank you sir, I will be doing this job next week and you answered all my questions and concerns.
Glad to help!
Just finished doing my springs! Thanks for the help!
Glad I could help!
@@hardlymovingpro Really appreciate it. Saved me hundreds!
Thank you sir 🍺 much easier than when I decided to replace the spark plugs on my wife’s 2011
Glad it helped!
The video was great. No issues with the repair!
Great and thanks for sharing!
thank you very much buddy I'm not sleep very good last night because I'm not have money for mechanic and I'm trying today to fix my vehicle now I know you my good teacher thank you thank you again
Your welcome and good luck!
thank you buddy you helped me a lot I'm fix my sienna Le 2006
What you mean to say is not only dis-connect the lower shock mounts on both sides .....but to get the rear of the car up in the air jacked up on both sides in the back ( with jackstands finally).... AND THEN.... disconnect the lower shock mounts. These two actions together will allow the suspension to drop more to get the springs out. Also....once this is done and you slightly force the suspension further down to allow the old spring to come out..... BE CAFEFUL not to over-extend the flex brake line and maybe the ABS sensor line.... your focus will be to get the spring out ....and you might not "see" that you are damaging these areas. Just now saw your point about the top shock washer "popping" out and needing a magnet, etc. The shocks are gas-pressureized so better to take off the BOTTOM mounts first....THEN the top mounts...so that "pop" won't happen. Cheers.
I would tend to agree that disconnecting the bottom shock from the control arm would make the job a little easier... or removing the top nut while the rear wheels are still on the ground could also work as well. Thanks for your comments!
Thanks for uploading this video. You make it look easy. I have a 2004 Seinna and the rear tires are slanted in and scraping the inner plastic. My friend who does great mechanic work told me that replacing the struts and springs should take care of the problem. He said there is no camber adjustment. Is that correct? All the Sienna videos I checked show how to adjust the camber.
There is an adjustment but I wouldn't bother. Just check for abnormal tire wear after the replacement.
@@hardlymovingpro ...So replacing the springs and struts should take care of this problem.
Yes ... see how the springs and shocks settle in before considering an adjustment.
@@hardlymovingpro ........Thanks so much.
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You bet!
Great tutorial video. I noticed the old shock had a protective boot over the chrome shaft but the new shock did not have a protective boot. I asume road grime and debris can get on chrome shaft damaging it. Any idea why there was no boot on new shock?
Thanks for your post! Yes .. The new Monroe shocks didn't come with a dust boot but it doesn't matter to me. They're lifetime warranted and boots provide limited wear protection ...IMHO.
Could you remove the upper nut from the shock absorber before jacking up the car so the nut doesn't go flying off?
Sure ... no problem doing that.
super helpful video. helped me a lot with the spring part. thanks.
You bet!
Should I repair a 2008 sienna with 170k miles that needs wheel bearings, shocks and sway bar links ? Everything else is working great
Yes if you intent to keep the Sienna for awhile.
If you remove the top mount with the wheel on the nut/washer won't go flying. I figured that out first hand. This video is really helpful with the spring. That's my next project, I should have replaced both shock and spring at the same time
Yea ... you're right. No big deal.
I also thought about putting support under control arm so when you release the strut nut it won't fly because you eliminate the coil spring pressure down ...
Great video. For the AWD sienna, it is much harder as the rear axles are in the way. You would have to unbolt the axles from the differential side, drop the rear differential and exhaust a little bit and support it otherwise the trailing arm doesn't go low enough for the spring to come out.
Good points. Can't advise since I haven't done it on a AWD sienna.
@@hardlymovingpro I'd imagine the 2WD would be easier
Thats another reason you dont buy an AWD.
I saw your video and I appreciate the step-by-step instructions. I was planning on putting an Air Lift LoadLifter 5000 Ultimate Air Helper Springs with Internal Jounce Bumpers, but after looking at the video and the video that the sales vendor had on their site, the entire suspension setup is different from what I saw. I have a 2005 Toyota Sienna too, but I think that the vendor for the Air Lift suspension was using some sort of truck suspension, because I didn't see and leaf suspension parts for the Toyota Sienna on your video. I will have to take a look and see if there is another type of heavy duty suspension kit that I can buy for the Toyota Sienna.
I plan on hauling a concession trailer, that's why I am starting to plan for the added weight that I am about to haul with the mini van. Since I can't afford to buy a truck just yet, the minivan will have to do. The good thing is that I am not going too far with the concession trailer, if anything 3 to 10 miles at the most.
Again, thank you for your video.
I bought custum springs for mine. Stiffer than the OEM.
Thanks for the upload!
You bet!
Any issues installing them up side down? Moog says white mark goes up but the spring is the same on either end. Asking because I just finished the job and looked at the box "white dot up"😂
Don't think that's a problem.
@@hardlymovingpro Perfect. OEM broken springs I pulled were flat on top, moog is identical on both ends. Van drives great, thanks for the video!
You bet!
Thanks for your video it looks very simple I'm getting ready to change out the suspension all around 2009 Toyota Sienna. Where did you get the Monroe set springs and suspension.. Thanks
A link to springs and shocks are shown in the text description of this video.
Great tip to use a magnet. Thanks!
Glad it worked out for you!
@@hardlymovingpro ...don't need it if you remove the bottom shock mount first and lower the removed shock with a jack.
I havent done the springs yet, but when I load the van up the hitch will hit off the ground when I go over bumps is there anyway to prevent this? I'm ok with a rockier ride if it involves stiffer springs. Thanks in advance
Only thing I can think of is stiffer springs.
Hello, Can I do left side coil spring without removing the parts from right side? Thank you
It's been awhile since I did this job so I can't say.
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The springs get weak over time and cannot maintain the vehicle's ride height.
@@hardlymovingpro thanks
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Does that Moog PN fit the 2015 Sienna. I can't find a single aftermarket spring for the 2015 and I wonder if there is some error in the listed compatability
The listed links for the Sienna 2WD and 4WD are for 2004 - 2010. Sorry but can't find anything for 2015.
Great video!
Does anyone know if the process will be the same on a 2004 AWD sienna? I just got an 8 hour quote for the springs
8 hours seems excessive. Just look underneath and look for similarities.
Wow, that skips something like 15 steps from the Service Manual, but looked good. For the AWD they even have you "remove propeller w/center bearing shaft assy" and then both rear drive shafts. I'm wondering if a spring compressor would make life easier. I just replaced the springs on my 4runner, and had to do a fair amount of prying...but it was only 4 pages in the FSM, not 9 plus references to other areas.
Thanks for your comments. As you can see from the video, no need to brake out spring compressors. I wonder about the people who write repair procedures.
@@hardlymovingpro The FSM doesn't include the use of spring compressors, but if doing such would need less opening of suspension height/space, and so some steps could be skipped, it would be worth it. Half of the steps are just undoing wires and brake lines to give some slack so you don't put stress on them or ruin them. But the AWD specific steps will add some time if they are really needed.
Great vid! Subscription worthy!
Much appreciated!
That was nice and easy. Probably won’t be for me since I have the AWD model 😭😭
Let us know how it works out!
Curious question regarding the rear trail arm bushing. My bushing looks the same as it appears its coming out towards the inner part of car. Is that the case? I am wondering if that is how they are supposed to look.
Sorry ... can't say.
2004-2016 covers 2 generations, are both generations the same?
Can't say.
I disconnected the bolt holding the ABS cable after I disconnected the shocks. The driver's side had very little tension but the passenger had a lot of tension Now the ABS, VSC, TRAC, AND brake light came on. It turns off and then will come back off a couple of times. I did the work yesterday. Any suggestions.
You've got a loose electrical connection somewhere or a break in the electrical continuity.
Good and clear thank you so much
Thanks for your comment and support!
Could you do a view on a sienna front strut like a kyb strut mines making noise followed your front camry
In the sienna you'll need the remove the plastic wiper shroud
Nice video ! If you remove the top shock nut first and the bottom control arm compressed the washer shouldn't pop off. Do you know if you can buy longer shocks and longer front struts to raise the Toyota Sienna other than putting on spacers.
Thanks! Not aware of any aftermarket kits to raise the height of the Sienna.
Why did you change the springs?
Spring sag causing rear end to be lower.
Hello, very good job. Thank you very much for your help.
Glad it helped!
Are springs replaced due to crack or mileage? I have 205k on mine and looking to do front and rear for second time. Thx
Loss of tensile strength from continuous use
Will that spring , if it's worn out cause tires to wear FAST on the outside? I have a 04 Sienna that I have to replace front tires on every MONTH
Have you had the wheel alignment checked?
@@hardlymovingpro yep. Had it done, it didn't help at all
I'd bring it to a reputable repair shop to get a accurate assessment
Why you havent installed the dust cover for shocks? They will be dead in a little.
Replacement did come with dust boot. Lifetime warranty. Did a claim after 4 years and got new ones with no questions asked.
@@hardlymovingpro 5:46 If there is a dust boot, the shiny silver top part of the shock wouldn't have been visible. The purpose of it is to protect that top part from having dust settled on it and going inside the shock afterwards
Not important
Canuck here, 2010 Sienna with 175000 kms (108739 miles), thinking of replacing same parts as rear seems to be low all the time. . Curious to know if rear ride height improved after install?
Absolutely! Old springs were sagging and weak.
@@hardlymovingpro Can you please measure current ride height from the ground up to fender lip for reference?
@@prazav8 Actually you should compare the height of the rear end against the front to determine if the front end is too low. If the front can't be adjusted higher, you may need to get new torsion bar keys and replace them along with the other suspension components.
@@hardlymovingpro Thanks for quick answer. I´m more concerned about the rear end, thus wanted to compare your ride height after installation of new parts with height of my car to get idea at what stage are my components.
@@mahesheuropedev4991 I don't own the vehicle.
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Glad you found it useful!
Why were the springs needing replacement?
When the spring's tensile strength weakens, the rear end of the vehicle will sag.
Where did you jack the van up at,
On the lift point in front of the rear control arms. Lift points should be noted in the owner's manual.
Where do you buy those shocks and springs from?
Links are provided in this video's description area.
do you remember the parts number for the coil spring???
i need a set for my 2004,which have drum brakes on the rear,it's a CE model.
thanks
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Didn't replace with new Toyota Springs but with springs made by MOOG (lifetime warranty).
What would a reasonable mechanic charge for this service in 2022?
Can't really say. Labor and parts rates vary.
Super helpful video! To confirm: Is this the same for AWD? (I have a 2004 as well)
Can't say for certain.
Hey, how do you know the bolts are tight enough to hold in the shocks?
If you're referring to the bottom of the shocks, there are slipped on to the control arm shock studs and held in place with nuts (not bolts). The nuts prevent the lower shocks from moving around on the stud and therefore do not require high torque fastening. The top of the shocks are secured to the chassis via bushings and shock nuts. The nylon nuts are tighten until they bottom out onto the shock stud. The nylon is there to prevent the nut from loosening off.
If you put a jack under the axle / control arm, you shouldn't have any issues with removing the nut on top of the shock. It won't pop..
Thanks for sharing!
Thanks
No problem!
You caught the washer but the nut went flying.
In your opinion if a 2001 Sienna has a problem bottoming out on bumps in the road would you predict shocks or springs is the main problem. Vehicle 120 k miles all original. Thanks, Jeff
If bottoming out on the rear end ... yes, I'd say at a minimum the shocks are gone. Just push down on the rear bumper with your feet and let go ... then push again and see if its bouncing up and down. You can determine if the rear springs are shot but measuring the distance from the ground to the top inner lip of the rear wheel well... then compare the distance with the front end wheel well.
Hey what jacking points do you use
Usually by the lower seam on each side of the car.
I have a 2008 8pass sienna fwd. All suspension parts for 8 pass are the same as the awd. But the rear springs only say awd or fwd. Which should i order?
Don't quite understand your question. If the rear springs are compatible for both AWD or FWD, what is there to choose?
@@hardlymovingpro the rear springs are different for awd and fwd. But all other components for the 8 pass fwd are the awd part numbers. But the rear springs do not specify the difference.
I'd get the FWD designated rear springs based on your vehicle being FWD.
Do you know if the AWD springs can be used on a FWD without causing any problems? I would like to get as much height as I can because my drawtite hitch drags more than I think it should. Thanks for the easy to follow video. Also what shocks do you recommend?
Am I hearing correctly! Did he said hacksaw!... ok no problem o there bob. Anyway good video.
Did you use 7 or 8 passenger coils? Is there a difference?
I used the MOOG springs rated for 8 passengers. I'd assume the 8 passenger would be a little stiffer.
@@hardlymovingpro awesome. I really appreciate it!
You won't have problemof losing the nut or washer if you release the bottom of the shock first.
Good point.
How i do the adjustment?Please i like to know.
There's nothing to adjust. Just parts replacement.
Where did you find aftermarket springs? I could not find them at all at rockauto.com, 1aauto.com, nor at Amazon. The price at a dealership is $180 per piece.
Rockauto.com
What is the reason to replace the spring?
Tensile strength weakens over time causing the rear end to sag.
are the springs unidirectional?
As far as I can recall ... yes. If not, the top is smaller than the base.
can I do the same on 2011 Sienna? thanks in advance!!
This procedure can be applied to Sienna's from the years 2004 to 2016. I change to text description of this video to note that.
@@hardlymovingpro is it the same part number springs for the 2011 and later siennas? The Moog springs you linked don't list as being compatable past 2010.
Can someone suggest which brand of coil spring is good to use? Thanks.
Moog is an good choice. That's what was installed in the video. A link to the springs is in the "Show More" text description of this video.
Hardly Moving Productions Thank you.
I am more confused now as to which parts I actually needed to replace. I took the strut out and it is still in good condition. And the coil spring looks good too. But my ride is rough and bumpy. I run a small business and I over load car often. Can the coil spring be bad while still looking physically good ?
Did you measure the height of the rear end relative to the front end before you removed the springs? The new springs job is to restore the ride height. When you removed the old shocks, did you attempt to compress them? Worn shocks may compress down too easy or too hard. The important thing is the rebound. If there's little to no rebound, that means the nitrogen has escaped out of the shock(s) and only the springs will pull the shock stems back up. If that's the case, you vehicle will have a very rough ride.
Hardly Moving Productions Yes I compressed the shock and did a side by side comparison with the new one, it come right back out just like the new one. The coil spring doesn’t impact the ride comfort? Just the height ? Appreciate your reply! Thanks.
Thank you for this video. Toyota wanted $650 to do it. I have the tools to fix it but it's 35 degrees out. Gotta suck it up and do it though.
I hear you. Weather is an obstacle being a shade tree mechanic.
Is there a specific way the spring should go? Should the more open end go up or on the bottom? I am using moog replacement and are not flat like the toyota brand but know friends that have used these on sienna as well. If the bottom coil isn't 100% in the drive but pretty close is that ok?
Also how tight should the shock be on top
The ones replaced in the video were Moogs. Don't recall if the Moog springs were different enough where you can tell the difference between the bottom or top. The bottom end of where the coil ends (regardless of one end or the other) should be rotated until it seats against the end of the grove in the spring seat. It's all shown in the video.
Until the nut won't turn anymore.
what about the bushings?
What bushing?
Hardly Moving Productions rear controll arm bushings? Where it pivots down?
That would be another video.
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Parts and tools used in text description of this video.
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You forgot to put the shocks dust boot back on, and that's why your shocks don't last long !!!
Lifetime warranty dude. Lasted over 100k, did a warranty claim and got new ones free!
This is only for fwd guys, please don’t use this video for awd
You're right!
Spring last forever .just change the shock.
Not so from what I've seen.
if the arm rear differential (the rubber piece) is damage, do i need to change the entire differential? thank you
Do you mean the control arm bushings?
@@hardlymovingpro thank you for replying me, yes I meant the arm pushing, but the mechanic told me the I need to change the support arm differential because it's arm pushing damage, do you think that I need to change the support arm differential just because it's arm pushing damaged? Thank you
@@karambiler349 Tell him for now that you only want the springs and shocks replaced. That when you have the money you'll replace the control arm later. Or --- bring the car to another repair shop for a 2nd opinion. If they say everything is okay, don't go back to the shop that tried to up sell you unnecessary work.
@@hardlymovingpro thank you so much for your feedback