@hi my names CATRINA • it was a point because Harryiana was talking about how Indians are stereotyped. Also, especially with Disney channel characters like Bahjeet (from Phineas and Ferb) and Ravi(from Jessie). And also basically all of the children on Jessie had stereotypes placed onto them. Stereotypes Zuri= sassy black girl Emma= rich blonde girl Ravi= Type A, smart Indian/Asian stereotype Luke= dumb cool brother stereotype ( Disney channel and Nickelodeon does this ex:Zack from Zack and Cody, Dicky from Nicky, Ricky, Dicky, and Dawn) Okay maybe Luke isn't a stereotype. Do y'all think Luke is a stereotype???
Ravi and Zuri were every racial stereotype possible, Emma and Luke were the picture of male and female stereotypes, Bertram was the lazy fat guy, there's a lot wrong here.
Everybody was a stereotype on Jessie Bertram: the lazy butler Jessie: the fun young nanny Emma: the rich dumb blonde Luke: the cute flirty kid Ravi: the smart immigrant Zuri: the sassy black girl Morgan and Kristina: the successful parents who don’t have time for their kids Miss Chesterfield: the old cranky lady with a ton of divorces Tony: the hot poor love interest
What really hurt me was when Jessie accidentally revealed that Ravi wasn't the child the Ross' wanted in the first place. They were trying to get a newborn, which I found hilarious because they're never around for the kids they do have. You already have three children at home and you want a baby with your hectic schedules? Who was going to raise that baby? The nanny that's who. It really played on my nerves, honestly.😒
I remember that episode! I thought it was kinda messed up to have that as a plot point. Ravi was CRUSHED when he found out they thought they were adopting a baby.
I absolutely abhor the "foreign people are silly because they have thick accents and different practices" trope on television. You can tell people to "grow up they're just jokes," but can we please start writing more intelligent jokes instead of making fun of other people's cultures?
Also do writers not understand that mocking accents is racist because it’s likely NOT their first language?? My mom’s accent gets mocked all the time (I’m an Indian immigrant) she had to learn english at 31 years old of course she has an accent!
Ari And also, accents are cool if they’re from “white countries” but not if they’re from mostly non white countries (except maybe Eastern Europeans and Russians, who seemingly fall in between). It remind me of how Chadwick Boseman insisted Black Panther have an African accent.
I think this should apply to poc cultures/accents cuz its just plain racist. White cultures/accents are okay imo. What kind of british person is gonna be offended when someone makes dub of their stupid accent lol
As an Indian I didn’t realize this until I got older, but we are taught from a young age that we’re undesirable, weird, and that our culture is bad. I’ve grown up thinking those things about myself and maybe my self hatred isn’t stemmed from Disney, but it sure fuels it. The way my culture has been shown and taught to me my whole life had me really hating it for so long, thank you for talking about this I feel like whenever Indians do we’re told that we’re “too sensitive” since mocking accents isn’t racist and we should be honored to be stereotyped as smart. It really sucks and I don’t see anyone breaking down those barriers any time soon.
as an indian american, i’ve been bothered by ravi’s characterization for the longest time. the thing was that it seemed like i was the only person who had this opinion even with fellow indians.
@@whatthehellisthis I completely agree, the Indian American community doesn't stand up for itself at all, and we also tend to not recognize the problems until it's too late. I grew up in the white suburbs so when I was treated the way Indian characters on TV were treated I really did justify it to myself. I swallowed down the racism, hate, and the joke made out of Indians in general since I thought it was the only way to fit in with the school.
Especially about the part that we're undesirable. I'm not Indian, but still desi tho. It's like we have to aspire to ditch our heritage because that's a "hinderance" for us to be able to achieve becoming "normal" average person.
Speaking of Baljeet, am I the only one that was upset by the fact that in the show when they asked him what his favorite flavor to eat was and his answer was "curry"? Like they really tried to check every box on the stereotype checklist
Also, curry wasn’t originally a thing?? Like that was just the umbrella term the (ignorant) British gave to ALL Indian dishes that included gravy, spices and vegetables and/or meat. Well, the term has been adopted into Indian cuisine but when you consider the origin it feels so disrespectful.
@@deepfriedspaghetti982 curry is not a specific dish, there are probably a thousand types of curry, each with a completely different taste and ingredients and hummus is not indian, it's from the middle east
I just seen a TikTok today where someone pointed out the fact that in this one episode of Phineas and Ferb where this girl had a crush on him and all of her friends basically said that she shouldn’t like him. It was kinda subtle but know i’m just like why is the unambiguous Character of color deemed as unattractive and that when someone likes him that it’s wrong.
xueerha it’s bee day/bee story (i don’t know what to think of the fact that i remembered it from memory even though i haven’t seen that episode in years)
@@shuou2794 yeah i think that. Between Jorge from BunkD amd Ravi I would date Ravi. He is smart amd there was a time in quarantine when I litteraly FELL IN LOVE with him.
Honestly Ravi deserved better, even in bunk'd little kids where bullying him and they turned him into a villain in some episodes and Ravi was my favourite character
@Caleb Mayfield What i'm mean is that on Jessie he was portrayed as a dork who was sometimes evil (like most kids), but on Bunk'd (especially season 3) he was turned in to a villain (like he would sabotage plans and stuff) to make it seem like making fun of him was okay and in like almost every episode his sisters would joke about him not having friends or something like that. Sorry if it came off like I thought it was racist I just didn't like how Ravi was butchered as a character.
As an Indian from India, living in India I HATE the stereotype. From Koothrapali in Big Bang Theory to Ravi in Jessie. Also there's an whole-ass Indian version of Jessie, Good Luck Charlie, Suite Life of Zack and Cody etc. They're called 'Oye Jessie', 'Best of Luck Nikki', 'Suite Life of Karan and Kabir'. Look them up on TH-cam. They're just Indian versions in Hindi and with South Asian culture. I enjoyed them as a kid but they're kinda cringe and just the same thing in a different language.
i remember i would sometimes watch the indian versions because i couldnt find the American version. I found Good Luck Nikki and didnt finish the Jessie spinoff. Do they treat Ravi's character better?
As a young indian american kid Ravis character was so wack. Every indian stereotype turned up to the maxxx and stuffed into one kid. I knew I would get questions from other kids after episodes aired cuz the stuff about Ravi and India was so wildly off the mark.😑
@@veronicajata3121 He had actually moved in with the Ross family about a year before Jessie got there. He was much older when he was adopted. But the stereotypes are harmful regardless. Zuri was a baby when she got there, but Ravi was much older, like 10 or 11
I'm Pakistani but I actually agree it sucks. Like, idk why I watched the show when I was bored but it annoyed me with how the writers thought it would be funny. I just hope content creators in the future try to make more positive south Asian characters so it can at least break some barriers.
This is my problem with Disney. They're so racist. Even Karar Brar the actor who portrayed Ravi on Jessie pointed that out. He said that Disney had these sterotypes of Indians and Indian Americans. Disney thinks that all Indians are smart and spend most of their time studying. Karar said that although he is smart he doesn't spend the majority of his time having his nose stuck in a book. Disney thinks that Indians aren't funny and can't play sports. Karar said that is also false because he loves playing sports and there are Indian comedians like Lily Singh and Liza Koshy. The racism that Disney flaunts in their TV shows is disgusting and sad.
@Caleb Mayfield Exactly. There was not once in the show where Ravi was told he was funny because Disney has these sterotypes that Indians aren't funny.
@Caleb Mayfield Disney also put sterotypes on Zuri. They think all African Americans are sassy so they made Zuri the sassy black girl. And I'm sorry if you are a Disney fan and don't want to believe that the company is evil but it's time you wake up. The company is nothing but racist, sexist, and money hungry. So many Disney TV shows have these dumb and insulting sterotypes and it's just horrible.
im calling it rn shes talking about the scene where luke does a project on India and they mock their language and dances and clothing. calling it rn, i can see the powerpuff part of her intro.
i wanted to talk about it but anytime i say anything about a character that cameron boyce played people start going off on me telling i'm disrespecting him. it made me very emotional the last time it happened and i was afraid for it to happen again.
@@gremlin-zg3pf same when I was little I loved Ravi and Baljeet because they were the only representation I saw but now I’m realizing how problematic they are 😬
As an Indian American girl I was always so embarrassed that I was Indian because of these shows. I thought Indian people were strange and I refused to speak Punjabi because of it. Indian stereotypes really effected me when I was younger and it didn’t help that people made fun of Indians. People have to learn we’re a culture not an impression.
They’re also racist towards other Asian characters. In season 1 and 2 of bunked that had that one character who’s asian and she was basically a walking stereotype of an asian child with abusive controlling Asian mom and the child feels they have to be perfect. It really enforces stereotypes about eastern and southern Asian people 😒
Trash Panda yeah agreed im asian too and I can’t say that they weren’t strict, quite the opposite really but they are not the only types of asian parents
Trash Panda I know a lot are but it was extremely dramatized like the little girl was applying to college for “really early admission” 7 years early .-.
Even as a tiny Indian elementary school kid in the US, the treatment of Ravi's character had always made me uncomfortable... I'd honestly love to see what Karan Brar would have to say about acting into these heavily over-exaggerated stereotypes now that he's much older
@@Ashineesa And the sad part is, in Hubie Halloween he wasn’t even supposed to play that part. If he did they would have definitely have made him the nerd.
i remember seeing that episode where ppl were making fun of ravi's culture for luke's school project, and the laugh track was playing but i was just... staring.
He literally played the same character in Diary of A Wimpy Kid. And that's so terrible that happened to your teacher. I remember we had a Jamaican janitor that had a thick accent and kids would disrespect him and leave trash on the floor. And all he was trying to do was make money to send his family in Jamaica. Smh
This sort of thing is the reason I want to make children’s television. As a part of LGBT+, growing up I thought there was something wrong with me. I want the generations after me to be able to accept everyone and just respect everyone, and that really starts with childhood entertainment Edit: I want to also say it would have totally helped me come to terms with my recent Autism diagnosis if I had grown up with characters in television that were like me. So I want to provide that for kids.
Yeah I get how you feel :( mainstream kids shows were fun but also lowkey problematic. They were also focused on catering to straight white kids and it shows 😩
Yes I wish there was more representation for our community. We need to normalize it because it IS normal, but there’s hardly any representation and when there is it isn’t accurate
@@sunspotmill1291 like? Litterally the only kid shows I can think of with lgbtqia+ representation is The Loud House (where some kids parents are both men) and that Andi Mack show (not even sure I just heard about it I haven't watched it.) I'm legitemately curious about if there are other shows
@@JayRedGear i couldn’t stand emma. i feel like she was the worst character she was so classist and looked down on people who were less fortunate than her. the typical white attractive rich girl.
I'm so glad you talked about how anybody can be racist. I have gotten shit at work when I use to be in a call center for trying to shut down anti-Asian racism because some of the black girls were the ones saying it. And as a white/hispanic woman they just started clowning on me and talking shit on me because i tried to stand up against them calling all the Asian workers Ling Ling and making fun of them. I had to exit that friend group after that. It had gone from insightful conversations about colorism and stuff to turning on me when I point out it isnt ok to then turn that hate onto a different group
@Breana Magiya I honestly dont get how the trend even happened other than racism. "Ling Ling" isnt even a common name, and the most famous ones I can find are a panda and a character from Drawn Together. It seems more insidious than calling white people "Chad", "Becky", or "Karen" because at least those are actual names. Lol I guess I'm also offended on the lack of effort in the racism. Like they should have used "Zhang Wei" or "Xiu Ying" because at least those are common actual names. A lot of Wuxia characters have some form of "Wei" in their name. And they were gossiping and talking shit about the Korean nail people, so probably should've gone with "Jeong-eun". (I think the "Jeong" is unisex because that was the second half of my ex's father name. I want to say the "eun" is how you would make it a bit more feminine. I admit I looked it up because I didnt remember his mom's name that well, but knew the first part was Eun so I googled "korean female name that has "Eun"")
@@owiie.stardust3329 lol true. The ones that are smart are the dangerous ones, and a it's good thing there arent a lot of smart racists out there Edit: though the charismatic ones are also dangerous (fucking hate trump)
I’m glad she mentioned that as well. I was one of the only Latina students at one of the schools I went to and I was bullied constantly and made fun of. I felt like I couldn’t talk about it because some of the people bullying me were black. They also said really horrible things to the only Asian kid in our class. It was so disgusting the way he was treated
I used to love Jessie, but even as a little kid it left a bad taste in my mouth. Later I realized that it was because every character was a freaking caricature. As an African-American girl who's from an indigenous family, I like Zuri and wanted to relate to her, but her behavior literally just got _worse_ as time went on instead of better to the point where it couldn't be attributed to her age anymore. I realized how bad it made me and people like me look and how she was no better than the other depictions. It doesn't stop there, either. Every character on that show was a stereotypical hyperbole and it never went anywhere. I eventually found myself borderline hating it. 🤷🏾♀️
honestly, south asian characters in American media are so very rare that the only Indian character in a kid's show I can think of who wasn't treated like a stereotype or a complete afterthought is Connie from Steven Universe 😕. She was a fully fledged character with a real personality and an arc, plus she was a love interest which seems pretty rare for dark skinned asian characters. but other than her, I'm blanking.
I remember Mindy from the office. They made her unlovable and desperate and in a toxic relationship! And the mean black girl never dates either. Its like dating and healthy relationships are reserved for whites
Janae Stephenson-Brown have you seen after ? I’m sorry but what’s accurate it’s that Hollywood glorifies toxic white relationships and barely gives any spotlight to other kinds of relationships because if you compare finnrey to reylo you can clearly see that Hollywood and teenage girls have a toxic white relationship biased
@@carlacarrero4975 so true! Looking back on some of my fave shows, i noticed how creepy and unhealthy some relationships, even between platonic characters were. Poc are below their best friend and two white friends on a equal level; both toxic, just one being less open that the other. Guess which 😥
I was wondering if you could talk about Glee. I find it weird how they talked about inclusivity but Rachel, Mr.Shue and Finn got everything. All the people that were of people of color or LGBT got nothing. Mercedes, Tina, Santana, Kurt, Mike, and pretty much everyone else who is in those groups. Of course if you don't want to that's fine. I loved this video and Jessie was all stereotypes. Emma (Dumb Blonde), Ravi (Smart, Quirky Indian), Zuri (Sassy Black Girl), Luke (Obnoxious White Boy).
Goodness gracious Rachel was a bitch. Just watch any clips of Rachel interacting with LGBTQ/POC characters and you’ll see how awful she treats them/how ignorant she acts around around/how her comments has racist undertones.
@@parkchimmin7913 She was horrible. She made so many racist comments to Mercedes and Santana. She literally said she could play Maria (A latina) but Santana (A latina) can't play Fanny (A jew) even though Rachel played a latina. She was a trash friend to Kurt and took that friendship from Mercedes. She pushed Tina to the side so many times it's no wonder that she became who she was in season 4.
@LDS SHAY FR she was a good singer (for Broadway tunes not brittany spears), Mercedes was the best vocalist period and Santana was the most versatile (she sang like every single genre and sounded good). They hyped her up way to much. Like she's good but not that good.
I was thinking she should talk about Glee too. It’s honestly really problematic. Like how Mr. Schue banned Marley for not wanting to wear a bikini in front of grown men especially WHILE SHE HAD AN EATING DISORDER?? And like how you mentioned, Rachel and Finn always got everything whereas POC and LGBT+ characters barely got any solos, even when a point was made that Schue was unfair towards them. It’s honestly really uncomfortable to watch sometimes.
This whole show just a bunch of stereotypes. Zuri is the sassy and fun but mean black girl, Luke is the one dimensional girl obsessed white boi, Ravi was the smart indian, and Emma was the dumb blonde.
LDS SHAY Yup, had a hard time coming up with a singular word that fit but dumb jock more or less works. Luke is probably the most different because the archetype isn’t race based but he also had a tendency to objectify women so. Cameron was a great actor though.
Right! As well as the rich parents who are non existent in their children’s lives and even Bertram played on the whole “fat people are lazy” stereotype.
I'm commenting too much but this topic gets me excited lol I just want to point out that ACCENTS ARE NOT BAD. Baljeet and Ravi do have accents because immigrants and people from India do. It's not a 'stereyotype' and doesn't offend me as long as it's not intended to or by non-South Asian people.
The accents aren’t bad at all, especially if the character is an immigrant or a foreign exchange student or something like that. Then it’s accurate for them to have an accent. It’s not the accent by itself but the character as a whole that’s a stereotype they’re a FOB that’s the stereotype. And it’s never really meant to show the life and experience of immigrants, but rather to just mock and make fun of them. Also like some pointed out in the media when it comes to accents, if it’s a European one it’s considered cool and attractive, but if it’s anything else it’s weird and like “speak English”.
How many Indian kids have you EVER met that had an accent? I bet it's zero right? That's because in real life, there are basically no Indian kids who immigrate to the United States during middle school. They either immigrate when they're kids (0-5) or for grad school and beyond (22+). The fact that so many Indian kids in American TV like Ravi, Baljeet, Chiraag (Diary of a Wimpy Kid), etc. have such ridiculously strong accents is really just a product of racism. Even the very minute few Indian kids who do immigrate during elementary/middle school who do have accents 99% lose their accent within months in order to better assimilate. The fact that American TV portrays these kids as being ridiculously large stereotypes like eating curry all the time and riding elephants and Bollywood dancing nonstop on top of their accents is the definition of racism.
Ok so im getting to the part where you're talking about the teachers. It is disrespectful and I have a similar experience with a teacher who was also indian. Basically what happened was that my class was so loud one day. She was trying our best to quiet them down, they wouldnt of course. Then she eventually got up and left the classroom crying. It was heartbreaking, she called the dean and he said "she's crying in the office debating coming back to teach at all" (just trying to paraphrase). What truly was disgusting was at the end of the whole thing where some of the students still had the argument of she doesnt teach. I cut out most of the story because its quite long enough. This happened in the carribbean 3 years back so this problem is still very relevant in schools (and my schools percentage was majority black as well.
I had a couple experiences with this in my schools as well. I went attended schools where it was mainly diverse. It made my blood boil seeing students act out towards a teacher, I was the one who would snap out at them. I'm a very quite person, but I've been told my voice carries a certain authority when I get mad enough. All I remember is saying: Shut the F* up!! And everything went silent.😅
Not only that but Bunk'd also had stereotyped characters too: Emma: Ditzy Blonde Luke: Dumb, Flirty Jock Ravi: Smart, Socially challenged Indian Zuri: Sassy Black Girl Griff: Troubled Bad Boy Lou: Country girl Tiffany: Genius Asian with overbearing mom Jorge: Lazy, Unhygienic Mexican Like I used to love these shows when I was so much younger but why is EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER so one dimensionally stereotyped? Like they really couldn't add any sort of complexity and just stuck with a lot of harmful stereotypes.
I’ve definitely noticed, going back and watching some of the shows I used to watch when I was a kid (thanks to Disney+) that they really did a terrible job representing Indian people. As an Indian girl, it really unsettles me now. As far as I can remember, Indian characters were always clueless and needed guidance from the white characters on how to “fit in” in America (Jessie and Suite Life of Zack and Cody come to mind). Also, Flynn doing that “Indian” accent (I use quotes because it was a terrible one at that) during that one episode of Shake It Up was NOT it
my little sister loved jessie and seeing ravi always made me uncomfortable like i felt really bad for that little boy having to play such a stereotypical character. this might be a long shot but does anyone remember how to be indie? i used to watch that a lot when i was like 12-13
Kelly Elizabeth i think it was? it at least had like a bunch of different south asian characters with different personalities and backgrounds, even if it was stereotypical sometimes it’s kind of different bc it’s actually made by indian creators so they were referencing their own lives.
If y'all want to see good Indian representation y'all should watch this Netflix show called "Never Have I Ever" It basically follows this Indian girl who's in high school and her journey with losing her dad and also accepting herself and her culture and what not. It's cute, funny, and relatable and the representation is everything!!!
When you were talking about how kids in your school made fun of their teachers' accents, I actually have experience with that, and it bothers and angers me so much when the same people who make fun of others' accents have really, really heavy accents in Foreign Language classes, and then instead of developing empathy for their teachers and/or classmates who know English as a second language, they just continue to make fun of them.... It just really bothers me, specifically, way too much, and I always have the very strong urge/desire to tell people who make fun of others' accents to "try to learn a completely foreign language that's not very similar to English-- as many Asian, Middle Eastern, Southeast Asian, African, and/or many different indegenous/ethnic/tribal languages (from anywhere in the world, really) fit that category-- and see how perfect your accent in that language is. Even try studying it for seven years or more, and see if your accent is perfect because unless you are extremely skilled at imitating (which the vast majority of people are not), your accent is most likely NOT going to be perfect. In fact, even if it is a language that is extremely similar to English (some European languages may fit this category, while many probably do not), chances are that your accent would probably not be very strong even after 4 or 5 years of studying it-- it depends on the language, too.. Would you like people that speak that language as a native language to make fun of you and ridicule you? How would you feel if they did so?" I am so glad you mentioned this, Nicole (I'm sorry if I spelled your name wrong; please correct me if I did). Thank you so much! It needed to be said.😊 Also, I completely agree that the portrayal of Ravi in Jessie as the complete outcast is problematic and leads to terrible stereotypes.
I'm half Indian and I loved this show as a kid. I always felt a slight uneasiness towards the portrayal of Ravi and other Indian characters like Balgeet from Phineas and Ferb even as a child, but I could never put my finger on why exactly I felt that way. Indian characters are so predictable in western media and it's sad tbh. I think of all my Indian friends and family and how unique each of their personalities are yet all we equate to in movies and TV shows is the undesirable genius.
If you don’t think his character is an issue, imagine if Ravi was the charismatic ‘womaniser’ and Luke was the nerd. It never would have happened, because he’s not white
@Caleb Mayfield Have they ever had any Indian ones? And I don't mean somebody who's half Indian, but passes as white. Like thinking about it now, has there ever been any Indian characters who aren't a racist stereotype?
that story of your teacher broke my heart, even tho I shouldn't have expected anything uplifting to happen since it was a real story, I was still lowkey hoping for a slightly happy ending, but damn 😔
Being south Asian, I did find it annoying and hurtful that they always made the Indian kid the joke. They always made the character annoying and unlikable. Made me kind of embarrassed of myself as a kid.
Honestly, as a Southeast Asian American, I always felt the obligation to assimilate and "act white". I tried really hard to stop acting nerdy and falling victim to bullying from the stereotypes. I had to act like the white kids so I could be cool. I remember that the cool kids even had 1 Indian friend, but they made fun of her behind her back because she ate curry and they decided that she smelled bad. I still feel bad about being white-washed, but honestly, it wasn't even my fault. How can young Asian American kids be proud of their culture if they are constantly ridiculed for it? And how can that change if the media continues to reinforce those attitudes?
The worst effect of the "model minority" type of representation like Ravi and Baljeet is that it makes South and East-Asian kids feel insecure when they don't meet that bar and love school be top of their class.
I remember watching Jessie when I was little and I remember seeing Ravi Ross and thinking that all Indian/Asian people were really smart and dorky and unpopular Disney Channel really needs to understand that the shows they put out to the public can really shape the minds of young children
I didn’t even know this was a problem until you mentioned it! Granted, I haven’t watched Jessie in many years, so my memories are pretty fuzzy. But I remember quite distinctly, I had a very, very sizable crush on Ravi (and Emma, but I hadn’t learnt of bisexuality back then, so...), and didn’t even notice any of this other stuff going on. It’s so sad, because children’s ideas of foreign cultures aren’t even conscious decisions sometimes; it can be so subconscious, they hardly know it’s there. That’s why it’s important to spread the _right_ ideas about foreign cultures. No child is born racist-adults making children’s television should freaking know better than to poison their growing minds. It’s just sick in general.
Hey, when you mentioned about how some Asians are represented almost as "asexual" and not romantic. Asexual just means a person had no sexual attraction to anybody, ergo some asexuals can date and be romantic since both sex and romance, are ENTIRLEY DIFFERENT things. I just wanted to clarify.
Yeah I agree, it kinda hurt a bit once she started calling them non-romantic, asexual, uptight, weird, and quirky. Because that’s an asexual stereotype in itself.
When Jessie was on was my cousin and in Elementary school together. My cousin would get made fun of for our ethnicity and instead of being addressed by his real our classmates decided to call him "Ravi" instead. We went to a mostly White and Hispanic school there were only 3 brown kids attending at the time. I remember telling him that it was okay because Ravi was smart and he should take it as a compliment. That's all I could think to tell him as a little 5th grader. The sad thing is that we aren't Indian and all of our lives we have been compared to other Indians, we've been reduced down to nothing but being Indian, and when we tell people that were middle eastern they'll ignore us and continue to call us Indians.
I’m Sri Lankan and, honestly most of what I see is South Asians are practically nonexistent in popular media. Also it annoys me when people forget South Asia includes more than just Indians. There are Pakistanis, Bengali, Nepalis, Sri Lankans and more. Stop ignoring us! South Asia is NOT just India.
I'm so sad for your teacher...it makes me really sad when that kind of stuff happens...most of our math teachers at school were men, a women university teacher came to replace my teacher and nobody respected her eventhough she explained everything better and she was more caring and understanding, but they ruined it, they were so disrespectful that she started being mean and cold..
Raj from big bang theory, Sanjay from FOP, Apu from The Simpsons, Sanjay from Modern Family... can someone name an Indian character in media that ISN'T a stereotype and depicted in a positive way??? The only cool Indian character I can think of is Symmetra from Overwatch.
Does Raj the elephant from _Camp Lazlo_ count? There's Aziz Ansari's character (Tom Haverford) from _Parks & Recreation,_ sure he's done some selfish stuff, but he isn't much better or worse than any other character, and he doesn't speak with an Indian accent. I didn't like _Sanjay & Craig_ but he wasn't stereotypical, and Connie Maheswaran from _Steven Universe._
@@starspeculation nothing wrong with having the indian accent as long as it isn't overly exaggerated but it really sucks when Indian characters are portrayed as selfish, whiny, nerdy and with overbearing parents.
Honestly im so sick and tired of that stereotypical 'nerdy indian character', just to name a few: Ravi Ross from Jessie Baljeet from Pheneas&Ferb Raj from the big bang theory Sanjay from the fairly oddparents Its literally just all a copy and paste of the same character: nerdy, social awkward, not dateable, heavy accent and what not.. Kinda like an alternative version to the token black character, so when the creators dont wanna add a black character to their series they just be like: 'HeY LeTs JuSt AdD aN InDiAn character and call it DiVersity!!' As if all the darkskin characters are the same to them anyway. Really annoying how those characters always get the worst representation and you cant really complain about it because at least they added one in the end. But still Smh....🤦♀️ if you cant afford a good representation of a poc than just dont add one anyway, because than you get them people a bad picture 🤷♀️
I completely agree. It’s crazy, out of all the Ross kids I thought Ravi was the best, I lowkey crushed on him back when Jessie was popular 😂 but it’s true the comments and all that are disgusting. I think everything in this video needed to be said.
One of my friends was racist, she claimed all mexican girls would wear leggings so boys would look at them, and she would mock them and laugh at them. Shes black, im not saying all black people are racist and ect. But it proves to show that anyone can have prejudice. Im not friends with her anymore, she wasnt a great friend, besides her racism and was a hypocrite.
Ok but I'm a Baljeet apologyst and he's great. He was so smart and his insight on situations was valued by the rest of the team. There was a girl in Isabella's explorers that liked him amd it was pretty cute. Also his relationship with Bufford is epic and as someome who is very strict with herself with her studies, he was so relatable. He also had a kickass song. I have nothing to say about Ravi, just wanted to come here and defend my boy Baljeet.
Honestly, Jesse would have been a lot cooler if everyone wasn’t a walking stereotype: Ravi could have been this popular, athletic kid who was having trouble with school while trying to adapt to American culture and having a big dysfunctional family. Emma could have been this purple haired, possible tattooed, wild child who listened to heavy metal and absolutely hated herself for liking fashion because its the reason her mom never had time for her. Zuri’s whole arc could have been this sweet little girl struggling to realize that it’s okay to get help from others even though the media tells her that she needs to be loud, brash, and completely independent. Luke could have been an absolute nerd that tries to impress his parents and have “normal” interest instead of being open about what he loves doing. Bertram could have been this man who hated Jessie from the beginning bc he’s seen so many nannies give up on these kids that he works his ass off to take care of and recognized that she was only doing this so that she could possibly get an acting gig out of it. But instead we got another show where every character is just a walking talking stereotype.
Every time I watched Jessie, I didn't like how they portrayed Ravi to have this accent that made people not really understand. I also realised most of the time Ravi talked, that laughing audience sound would come up and I didn't like that.
I remember in one episode. It is the teacup episode. When Ravi gets stuck in the teacup and sends the message to Luke on his sock, Luke reads it while mimicking Ravi’s accent which did not really need to be done.
im ethinically indian but i grew up moving around a lot and these were the only "representation" i had other than my parents so for a majority of my life i refused to acknowledge anything "indian" bout me (the culture, food, beliefs, etc.) and to this day i still struggle with openly learning and acknowledging everything even tho i really, *really* want to.
My biology teacher my freshman year was from the Philippines and had a thick accent. Many of the kids disrespected him and made fun of his accent fight in front of his face. I was the only one there who took notes while everyone else would bee goofing off and interrupting him. They would make fun of him behind his back and it was just so terrible to hear considering how kind and forgiving the teacher was.
Ravi is basically the foreign-exchange student trough. Growing up watching the children‘s entertainment media that was targeted towards my age demographic growing up, there is always that one kid that not only has darker skin but has a noticeable accent that’s treated like a dork/loser/social outcast. I never understood when watching the shows that someone with a different accent is labeled as a “nerd“ because their voice is different.
Jessie had sooo many stereotypes, like how they made Emma the dumb blonde, or how they made Zuri the sassy black girl and we didn't notice any of these until we were all much older.
Oh my god thank you so much for talking about this. Growing up with only Ravi or other stereotypes sucked, and I really appreciate that you (and many others) noticed that actual Indians aren’t like that (and that accent isn’t even real)
Thank you for speaking on this topic. As an Indian American myself I have always been embarrassed about my culture and even religion (Hindu). I’ve always been mocked growing up but I never stood up for myself. I always tried to hide my culture. I remember whenever the Indian culture was brought up in my geography or history class I would always be so embarrassed to speak about it and I would always lower myself in my seat. I remember the kids in my class mocking Hinduism and I wasn’t able to speak up about because I was so embarrassed.
If I recall correctly, Ravi’s main love interest was this girl that was also very into lizards. She didn’t stick around very long, but if I’m not mistaken, Jessie and Zuri were the only two with long-term love interests in the show.
I think the only good Indian representation on Disney Channel was Mo from Lemonade Mouth. Being Indian was an important part of her character, but not the only thing about her. She even got to sing lead in some songs, something that DC doesn’t really let Asian actors do is movies/shows. And I agree about Ravi, I didn’t really notice all this til i got older.
Honestly, as a Bengali girl that grew up here in the US, Indian characters on these shows were the only representation I ever got when it came to my culture. Growing up I struggled a lot with my identity and culture, and had a lot of internalized racism. These shows definitely had a big part to play in that. I am 16 now and am finally learning to love and appreciate my culture. These shows are absolutely awful. I hate them. I am a perfect case study of why these stereotypes have negative affects on the mentalities of children. It took me so long to finally break off my internalized racism, and I seriously hate to think that kids growing up now may have to go through a similar experience. Like you said, kids of all backgrounds watch their shows, and nobody should be made to feel like an alien or weird or bad.
@@deepfriedspaghetti982 I think she was supposed to be the Taylor swift stereotype thats bitter about men and has dreams but the weird thing about Jessie is that I thought she was going to give up on being an actor and become a musician since there were so many hints of her being talented with music but the show never does that
I see what your trying to say, but nobody, especially kids, remember Ravi for being nice and unique person. They remember him for being a nerdy Indian boy with no friends, a thick accents, and no social skills.
I just thought, The fact that these things slipped over our head as kids shows how normalized they were and how they influenced the internalized racism and stereotypes today. (Not just shows tho)
I've been rewatching Jessie and while it can be really entertaining, there is so much wrong with it. All the characters are stereotypes, 90% of the humor is just the characters making fun of each other for said stereotypes, the kids are super poorly behaved and the morals of the show are just way off base, and the show is constantly disrespecting other people's cultures. Ravi deserved way better, and another example is when they go to "Africa." Never in the episode do they state where in Africa they are, but they go on a safari and get chased by a rhino, basically implying that all of Africa is the Sahara desert, underdeveloped and dangerous, when in fact Africa is an extremely diverse continent with all types of different ecosystems, societies, languages and cultures. That episode really pissed me off.
Lets not get started on the xenophobia that show had, from Ravi being portrayed as the stereotypical Indian to Tiffany being portrayed as the typical East Asian.
I hope you will talk about Lolirock someday. It came in 2014, but you can find most episodes on TH-cam. Lolirock is a magical girl show that originated in France. My favorite is a black girl named Talia. She’s very serious and a bit harsh, but she’s very intelligent and deeply concerned about her friends and family. She’s in a pop band with her friends and they’re all princess who fight against an evil sorcerer who has taken over their kingdoms.
Emma is airhead, Luke is the stereotypical fboy, Ravi was the stereotypical smart asian, and Zuri was the stereotypical black girl who couldn't keep her mouth shut. C'mon Disney, they all had a stereotyped character.
“I run this pirate ship by myself”
she’s the captain, but you aren’t the first mate
Disney execs seasick can't see straight
Call em fishbait, Ms. Harriyanna Hook.
Content so hot they get burned if they look
y’all lowkey laying bars pls 🥴
descendants do be poppin tho
@@sydneyfreeman-coker1179 freaking bars
I love Jessie, but every kid was a sterotype
honestly every child
I think that was the point but I’m not even sure anymore
@@mochibunnyan6556 still not good to instill in children
LDS SHAY Zuri was the sassy black girl.
@hi my names CATRINA • it was a point because Harryiana was talking about how Indians are stereotyped. Also, especially with Disney channel characters like Bahjeet (from Phineas and Ferb) and Ravi(from Jessie). And also basically all of the children on Jessie had stereotypes placed onto them.
Stereotypes
Zuri= sassy black girl
Emma= rich blonde girl
Ravi= Type A, smart Indian/Asian stereotype
Luke= dumb cool brother stereotype ( Disney channel and Nickelodeon does this ex:Zack from Zack and Cody, Dicky from Nicky, Ricky, Dicky, and Dawn)
Okay maybe Luke isn't a stereotype. Do y'all think Luke is a stereotype???
Ravi and Zuri were every racial stereotype possible, Emma and Luke were the picture of male and female stereotypes, Bertram was the lazy fat guy, there's a lot wrong here.
lili elf and Jessie was the young, cute, Texan cOwGiRl
Cookie Monster Productions “sHe WaS sO qUiRkY x3”
¡JAX! ‘like wow Texan=cowgirl yes very true’
@Pogomire Cameron Boyce was, yes, but Luke wasn’t:)
Yeah that was kind of the point of the show. They’re all jokes
Off topic but the biggest plot twist in that show for me as a kid was that Mrs. Kipling was pregnant and a girl
Rebecca Herman I know I was shooketh from that
Same. Let's be real, Mrs. Kipling was the best character in the show. She's a fierce icon of a mom.
@@robotoorigato7288
Agreed
I was like wait wtf-
Roboto Origato umm have you seen Bertram 😍
Everybody was a stereotype on Jessie
Bertram: the lazy butler
Jessie: the fun young nanny
Emma: the rich dumb blonde
Luke: the cute flirty kid
Ravi: the smart immigrant
Zuri: the sassy black girl
Morgan and Kristina: the successful parents who don’t have time for their kids
Miss Chesterfield: the old cranky lady with a ton of divorces
Tony: the hot poor love interest
Would be a good concept for an adult shoe not a kid’s show
jessie has the texas stereotype too lol
The butler was like a white, not-funny version of Geoffrey from Fresh Prince.
I bet you those were also the character descriptions at the casting call 💀
@@PhoenixRising87 Except Geoffrey worked hard
What really hurt me was when Jessie accidentally revealed that Ravi wasn't the child the Ross' wanted in the first place. They were trying to get a newborn, which I found hilarious because they're never around for the kids they do have. You already have three children at home and you want a baby with your hectic schedules? Who was going to raise that baby? The nanny that's who. It really played on my nerves, honestly.😒
I remember that episode! I thought it was kinda messed up to have that as a plot point. Ravi was CRUSHED when he found out they thought they were adopting a baby.
Gusto Doodles which episode was it
yes your soo right they have 3 adopted children and they are berly there
They were barely there when all the kids were kinda older but that doesn't mean they weren't there the whole time
Yes same.
I absolutely abhor the "foreign people are silly because they have thick accents and different practices" trope on television. You can tell people to "grow up they're just jokes," but can we please start writing more intelligent jokes instead of making fun of other people's cultures?
Also do writers not understand that mocking accents is racist because it’s likely NOT their first language?? My mom’s accent gets mocked all the time (I’m an Indian immigrant) she had to learn english at 31 years old of course she has an accent!
Ari And also, accents are cool if they’re from “white countries” but not if they’re from mostly non white countries (except maybe Eastern Europeans and Russians, who seemingly fall in between). It remind me of how Chadwick Boseman insisted Black Panther have an African accent.
For real, its not even jokes at this point its just straight stereotypes and prejudice
Exactly!!! There is nothing funny about making fun of people's cultures and/or accents.
I think this should apply to poc cultures/accents cuz its just plain racist. White cultures/accents are okay imo. What kind of british person is gonna be offended when someone makes dub of their stupid accent lol
The most relatable character in that WHOLE SERIES is Bertram!
Facts
True tho
LDS SHAY Honestlyyyyy
YES
bertam is a big mood
As an Indian I didn’t realize this until I got older, but we are taught from a young age that we’re undesirable, weird, and that our culture is bad. I’ve grown up thinking those things about myself and maybe my self hatred isn’t stemmed from Disney, but it sure fuels it. The way my culture has been shown and taught to me my whole life had me really hating it for so long, thank you for talking about this I feel like whenever Indians do we’re told that we’re “too sensitive” since mocking accents isn’t racist and we should be honored to be stereotyped as smart. It really sucks and I don’t see anyone breaking down those barriers any time soon.
as an indian american, i’ve been bothered by ravi’s characterization for the longest time. the thing was that it seemed like i was the only person who had this opinion even with fellow indians.
@@whatthehellisthis I completely agree, the Indian American community doesn't stand up for itself at all, and we also tend to not recognize the problems until it's too late. I grew up in the white suburbs so when I was treated the way Indian characters on TV were treated I really did justify it to myself. I swallowed down the racism, hate, and the joke made out of Indians in general since I thought it was the only way to fit in with the school.
can relate as a pakistani muslim girl
Especially about the part that we're undesirable. I'm not Indian, but still desi tho. It's like we have to aspire to ditch our heritage because that's a "hinderance" for us to be able to achieve becoming "normal" average person.
YES YOU ARE SPEAING FACTS LOL I AM A CHILD
Speaking of Baljeet, am I the only one that was upset by the fact that in the show when they asked him what his favorite flavor to eat was and his answer was "curry"? Like they really tried to check every box on the stereotype checklist
The thing is..what the hell is curry flavor, there are different types of curry🤨 did they think before airing...
Why you gotta shit on my boy baljeet. You got a lotta nerve lmao
Also, curry wasn’t originally a thing?? Like that was just the umbrella term the (ignorant) British gave to ALL Indian dishes that included gravy, spices and vegetables and/or meat. Well, the term has been adopted into Indian cuisine but when you consider the origin it feels so disrespectful.
@@gaymergirlbathwater i wonder what other nice dishes indians have cuz all ive ever heard about is curry and hummus lol
@@deepfriedspaghetti982 curry is not a specific dish, there are probably a thousand types of curry, each with a completely different taste and ingredients and hummus is not indian, it's from the middle east
I just seen a TikTok today where someone pointed out the fact that in this one episode of Phineas and Ferb where this girl had a crush on him and all of her friends basically said that she shouldn’t like him. It was kinda subtle but know i’m just like why is the unambiguous Character of color deemed as unattractive and that when someone likes him that it’s wrong.
Shit what episode??
Which one, let me go see some arguments in comments.
sis!!! people were coming for me in hs cause i said karan (the guy who plays ravi) is cute!!!! people are ignorant.
xueerha it’s bee day/bee story (i don’t know what to think of the fact that i remembered it from memory even though i haven’t seen that episode in years)
oh I remember that episode. Can't remember the plot of the episode but a definitely remember that bit.
honestly, when watching Jessie as a kid, I never really liked how hey would make fun of Ravi and his cultural background
Moova yeah i agree everyone makes fun of him. He is cute and deserves someone to love him.
@@anettedeyta2747 exactly very annoying seeing it
@@shuou2794 yeah i think that. Between Jorge from BunkD amd Ravi I would date Ravi. He is smart amd there was a time in quarantine when I litteraly FELL IN LOVE with him.
@@anettedeyta2747 we dont even talk about bunked bruh IT IS SOO BAD LXCBJSSJ
@@shuou2794 oh I thought it was... Descent in seasons 1 and 2.
Honestly Ravi deserved better, even in bunk'd little kids where bullying him and they turned him into a villain in some episodes and Ravi was my favourite character
@Caleb Mayfield What i'm mean is that on Jessie he was portrayed as a dork who was sometimes evil (like most kids), but on Bunk'd (especially season 3) he was turned in to a villain (like he would sabotage plans and stuff) to make it seem like making fun of him was okay and in like almost every episode his sisters would joke about him not having friends or something like that. Sorry if it came off like I thought it was racist I just didn't like how Ravi was butchered as a character.
@Caleb Mayfield I'm mean Bunk'd and not really evil but like mean.
@Caleb Mayfield Now you're getting my drift, it like all the character development from Jessie went out the window for Bunk'd.
facts
I liked Ravi because he was sweet, kind, smart, and lovable. Why are all the sweet, kind, smart, lovable characters treated so poorly in media?
As an Indian from India, living in India I HATE the stereotype. From Koothrapali in Big Bang Theory to Ravi in Jessie.
Also there's an whole-ass Indian version of Jessie, Good Luck Charlie, Suite Life of Zack and Cody etc.
They're called 'Oye Jessie', 'Best of Luck Nikki', 'Suite Life of Karan and Kabir'. Look them up on TH-cam.
They're just Indian versions in Hindi and with South Asian culture. I enjoyed them as a kid but they're kinda cringe and just the same thing in a different language.
Have not yet checked those out or watched this video, but I typed it in and the auto fill guessed it almost immediately. Can TH-cam read minds?
uhh, i came across Best of Luck Nikki 6 years ago or so, and it was lowkey good...
I used to watch Best of Luck Nikki on the plane when I was visiting my family :D
i remember i would sometimes watch the indian versions because i couldnt find the American version. I found Good Luck Nikki and didnt finish the Jessie spinoff. Do they treat Ravi's character better?
@@elevenaffirmations5821 I'm not sure I remember haven't watched it in a while lol
As a young indian american kid Ravis character was so wack. Every indian stereotype turned up to the maxxx and stuffed into one kid. I knew I would get questions from other kids after episodes aired cuz the stuff about Ravi and India was so wildly off the mark.😑
@@veronicajata3121 He had actually moved in with the Ross family about a year before Jessie got there. He was much older when he was adopted. But the stereotypes are harmful regardless. Zuri was a baby when she got there, but Ravi was much older, like 10 or 11
I'm Pakistani but I actually agree it sucks. Like, idk why I watched the show when I was bored but it annoyed me with how the writers thought it would be funny. I just hope content creators in the future try to make more positive south Asian characters so it can at least break some barriers.
I would always say that I didn't like Jessie as a kid because of this, and my non-Indian friends would just say that I was overreacting.
@Caleb Mayfield i think it also applies for comics, shows and other platforms as well
This is my problem with Disney. They're so racist. Even Karar Brar the actor who portrayed Ravi on Jessie pointed that out. He said that Disney had these sterotypes of Indians and Indian Americans.
Disney thinks that all Indians are smart and spend most of their time studying. Karar said that although he is smart he doesn't spend the majority of his time having his nose stuck in a book.
Disney thinks that Indians aren't funny and can't play sports. Karar said that is also false because he loves playing sports and there are Indian comedians like Lily Singh and Liza Koshy.
The racism that Disney flaunts in their TV shows is disgusting and sad.
@Caleb Mayfield I wasn't the one who thinks Indians aren't funny. I said Disney thinks that Indians aren't funny.
@Caleb Mayfield Exactly. There was not once in the show where Ravi was told he was funny because Disney has these sterotypes that Indians aren't funny.
Caleb Mayfield stay out of brown peoples business
@Caleb Mayfield Disney also put sterotypes on Zuri. They think all African Americans are sassy so they made Zuri the sassy black girl. And I'm sorry if you are a Disney fan and don't want to believe that the company is evil but it's time you wake up. The company is nothing but racist, sexist, and money hungry. So many Disney TV shows have these dumb and insulting sterotypes and it's just horrible.
@Caleb Mayfield They quite literally shut down Ravi every time he made a joke ?????
im calling it rn shes talking about the scene where luke does a project on India and they mock their language and dances and clothing. calling it rn, i can see the powerpuff part of her intro.
I recently saw that episode made me feel some type of way like what...
I hated that so much. The whole time I was thinking: Disney, could not? Could you just... Not?
LUKE GOT ON MY NERVES SO BAD
i wanted to talk about it but anytime i say anything about a character that cameron boyce played people start going off on me telling i'm disrespecting him. it made me very emotional the last time it happened and i was afraid for it to happen again.
harriyanna hook girl that entire episode was all bad 🤦🏾♂️
As an Indian person I always felt kind of hurt that he was made up of so many stereotypes just like baljeet from phineas and ferb
I'm Pakistani and Ravi was the closest to representation I ever had and I never saw anything wrong with Ravi until I grew up a little.
ISTG Disney can’t air a show until every trop and stereotype has been cheated off.
@@gremlin-zg3pf same when I was little I loved Ravi and Baljeet because they were the only representation I saw but now I’m realizing how problematic they are 😬
I’m sorry for all of u 😕 🇮🇳
Me too. I started to hate the fact that I was Indian and I also thought that no one of any other race would ever like me.
As an Indian American girl I was always so embarrassed that I was Indian because of these shows. I thought Indian people were strange and I refused to speak Punjabi because of it. Indian stereotypes really effected me when I was younger and it didn’t help that people made fun of Indians. People have to learn we’re a culture not an impression.
Honestly same 😔
Same. Stereotypes like Ravi really hurt me growing up
oh I'm sorry :(
dont be ashamed of being indian
They’re also racist towards other Asian characters. In season 1 and 2 of bunked that had that one character who’s asian and she was basically a walking stereotype of an asian child with abusive controlling Asian mom and the child feels they have to be perfect. It really enforces stereotypes about eastern and southern Asian people 😒
Meme God the mother was not Asian
they didn’t even give the asian girl an asian mother I was like-, if only Disney didn’t copy and paste characters. They been lazy
But Asian parents are like that though (this is coming from in Asian person) not every Asian parent but some are
Trash Panda yeah agreed im asian too and I can’t say that they weren’t strict, quite the opposite really but they are not the only types of asian parents
Trash Panda I know a lot are but it was extremely dramatized like the little girl was applying to college for “really early admission” 7 years early .-.
Don't apologize for your hair, what you do with your hair is your business and none of ours. Live your life and express yourself.
Exactly! and honestly her hair looks great. :)
@@vicky_icky. very ture
But when a White person does this it's racist ok
@@turbofart101 the commenter didn't say anything about white people tf
@@turbofart101 and if you are making a reference to white people wearing braids from black culture, it IS offensive
Even as a tiny Indian elementary school kid in the US, the treatment of Ravi's character had always made me uncomfortable... I'd honestly love to see what Karan Brar would have to say about acting into these heavily over-exaggerated stereotypes now that he's much older
You know what's crazy they not only did this in Jessie, but when he was in the Wimpy Kid movie.
You should watch hubie Halloween although he is played as the mean character he doesn't have an accent and isn't a stereotype
@@Ashineesa And the sad part is, in Hubie Halloween he wasn’t even supposed to play that part. If he did they would have definitely have made him the nerd.
i remember seeing that episode where ppl were making fun of ravi's culture for luke's school project, and the laugh track was playing but i was just... staring.
He literally played the same character in Diary of A Wimpy Kid. And that's so terrible that happened to your teacher. I remember we had a Jamaican janitor that had a thick accent and kids would disrespect him and leave trash on the floor. And all he was trying to do was make money to send his family in Jamaica. Smh
As a Jamaican-American, this is so disheartening. This is why I have little faith in humanity sometimes.
@@bunnyhungry7367 Same here. 🇯🇲
This sort of thing is the reason I want to make children’s television. As a part of LGBT+, growing up I thought there was something wrong with me. I want the generations after me to be able to accept everyone and just respect everyone, and that really starts with childhood entertainment
Edit: I want to also say it would have totally helped me come to terms with my recent Autism diagnosis if I had grown up with characters in television that were like me. So I want to provide that for kids.
THIS !!
Yeah I get how you feel :( mainstream kids shows were fun but also lowkey problematic. They were also focused on catering to straight white kids and it shows 😩
Yes I wish there was more representation for our community. We need to normalize it because it IS normal, but there’s hardly any representation and when there is it isn’t accurate
@@persom7824 But there's tons or representation now. What do you mean by "hardly"?
@@sunspotmill1291 like? Litterally the only kid shows I can think of with lgbtqia+ representation is The Loud House (where some kids parents are both men) and that Andi Mack show (not even sure I just heard about it I haven't watched it.) I'm legitemately curious about if there are other shows
Jessie in hindsight as an adult is such a bad show for kids like wtf
At least some people who watched as a kid realize this now
Most live action shows on disney are kinda shit nowadays. Thats why most kids watch anime
@Caleb Mayfield yeah. live action shows havent changed much.....
@@deepfriedspaghetti982 live action kides shows were all trash
@@wetwater3956 not all, there were a couple of exceptions like good luck charlie and thats so raven
Baljeet from Phineas and Ferb was pretty terrible representation too, ngl
he certainly got better as the show went on but definitely not good rep at all
he was fun to watch but i can’t disagree
I really liked him but he was still stereotypical and annoying.
Why do gotta do my boy baljeet like that. He was the best character in the whole show
@@deepfriedspaghetti982 Speaking purely in terms of representation, it's disheartening that the only Indian kid in the main cast is a stereotype
They did my boy Ravi wrong.
Cinema Nerd I agree Ravi deserved better
Ravi was the only likeable character (besides Bertum because I feel bad for him). Looking back, it is truly disgusting how the characters treat him.
@@JayRedGear i couldn’t stand emma. i feel like she was the worst character she was so classist and looked down on people who were less fortunate than her. the typical white attractive rich girl.
I'm so glad you talked about how anybody can be racist. I have gotten shit at work when I use to be in a call center for trying to shut down anti-Asian racism because some of the black girls were the ones saying it. And as a white/hispanic woman they just started clowning on me and talking shit on me because i tried to stand up against them calling all the Asian workers Ling Ling and making fun of them.
I had to exit that friend group after that. It had gone from insightful conversations about colorism and stuff to turning on me when I point out it isnt ok to then turn that hate onto a different group
@Breana Magiya I honestly dont get how the trend even happened other than racism. "Ling Ling" isnt even a common name, and the most famous ones I can find are a panda and a character from Drawn Together. It seems more insidious than calling white people "Chad", "Becky", or "Karen" because at least those are actual names. Lol I guess I'm also offended on the lack of effort in the racism. Like they should have used "Zhang Wei" or "Xiu Ying" because at least those are common actual names. A lot of Wuxia characters have some form of "Wei" in their name. And they were gossiping and talking shit about the Korean nail people, so probably should've gone with "Jeong-eun". (I think the "Jeong" is unisex because that was the second half of my ex's father name. I want to say the "eun" is how you would make it a bit more feminine. I admit I looked it up because I didnt remember his mom's name that well, but knew the first part was Eun so I googled "korean female name that has "Eun"")
@@butters796 well if they’re making fun of people’s races, they’re probably not very smart in the first place haha
@@owiie.stardust3329 lol true. The ones that are smart are the dangerous ones, and a it's good thing there arent a lot of smart racists out there
Edit: though the charismatic ones are also dangerous (fucking hate trump)
@@butters796 agreed
I’m glad she mentioned that as well. I was one of the only Latina students at one of the schools I went to and I was bullied constantly and made fun of. I felt like I couldn’t talk about it because some of the people bullying me were black. They also said really horrible things to the only Asian kid in our class. It was so disgusting the way he was treated
I used to love Jessie, but even as a little kid it left a bad taste in my mouth. Later I realized that it was because every character was a freaking caricature. As an African-American girl who's from an indigenous family, I like Zuri and wanted to relate to her, but her behavior literally just got _worse_ as time went on instead of better to the point where it couldn't be attributed to her age anymore. I realized how bad it made me and people like me look and how she was no better than the other depictions. It doesn't stop there, either. Every character on that show was a stereotypical hyperbole and it never went anywhere. I eventually found myself borderline hating it. 🤷🏾♀️
I always thought Ravi as a character was definitely problematic. Especially the way everybody else treated him. Karan Brar deserved so much better
Exactly
Mr kipling deserved better too
@@deepfriedspaghetti982 Him too
@Caleb Mayfield Oh yeah! I forgot. Thanks:)
honestly, south asian characters in American media are so very rare that the only Indian character in a kid's show I can think of who wasn't treated like a stereotype or a complete afterthought is Connie from Steven Universe 😕. She was a fully fledged character with a real personality and an arc, plus she was a love interest which seems pretty rare for dark skinned asian characters. but other than her, I'm blanking.
Damn you made me miss Steven universe again.
Maybe Courtney from Total Drama Island as well?
@@h1bbers yes I also thought of Courtney as well
Anthy Himemiya from Utena.
beck was the only indian man that i can think of that didn’t fall into a stereotype
yeah,beck was the "girl magnet" and "perfect bf"
wait was beck indian??
@@haiou4575 yeah it's in the victorious fan wiki
@@haiou4575 yeah, avan's half white and indian but they never mentioned it tho
Pretentious Edits makes sense, a lot of the time in show biz child actors are told to appear as white as possible like Miranda from Lizzie McGuire
I remember Mindy from the office. They made her unlovable and desperate and in a toxic relationship! And the mean black girl never dates either. Its like dating and healthy relationships are reserved for whites
Janae Stephenson-Brown have you seen after ? I’m sorry but what’s accurate it’s that Hollywood glorifies toxic white relationships and barely gives any spotlight to other kinds of relationships because if you compare finnrey to reylo you can clearly see that Hollywood and teenage girls have a toxic white relationship biased
@@carlacarrero4975 so true! Looking back on some of my fave shows, i noticed how creepy and unhealthy some relationships, even between platonic characters were. Poc are below their best friend and two white friends on a equal level; both toxic, just one being less open that the other. Guess which 😥
@@carlacarrero4975 I seen it and, people are trying to justify it
I was wondering if you could talk about Glee. I find it weird how they talked about inclusivity but Rachel, Mr.Shue and Finn got everything. All the people that were of people of color or LGBT got nothing. Mercedes, Tina, Santana, Kurt, Mike, and pretty much everyone else who is in those groups. Of course if you don't want to that's fine. I loved this video and Jessie was all stereotypes. Emma (Dumb Blonde), Ravi (Smart, Quirky Indian), Zuri (Sassy Black Girl), Luke (Obnoxious White Boy).
Goodness gracious Rachel was a bitch. Just watch any clips of Rachel interacting with LGBTQ/POC characters and you’ll see how awful she treats them/how ignorant she acts around around/how her comments has racist undertones.
@@parkchimmin7913 She was horrible. She made so many racist comments to Mercedes and Santana. She literally said she could play Maria (A latina) but Santana (A latina) can't play Fanny (A jew) even though Rachel played a latina. She was a trash friend to Kurt and took that friendship from Mercedes. She pushed Tina to the side so many times it's no wonder that she became who she was in season 4.
@LDS SHAY FR she was a good singer (for Broadway tunes not brittany spears), Mercedes was the best vocalist period and Santana was the most versatile (she sang like every single genre and sounded good). They hyped her up way to much. Like she's good but not that good.
I was thinking she should talk about Glee too. It’s honestly really problematic. Like how Mr. Schue banned Marley for not wanting to wear a bikini in front of grown men especially WHILE SHE HAD AN EATING DISORDER?? And like how you mentioned, Rachel and Finn always got everything whereas POC and LGBT+ characters barely got any solos, even when a point was made that Schue was unfair towards them. It’s honestly really uncomfortable to watch sometimes.
Luke isn't white. Cameron was mixed.
This whole show just a bunch of stereotypes. Zuri is the sassy and fun but mean black girl, Luke is the one dimensional girl obsessed white boi, Ravi was the smart indian, and Emma was the dumb blonde.
LDS SHAY Yup, had a hard time coming up with a singular word that fit but dumb jock more or less works. Luke is probably the most different because the archetype isn’t race based but he also had a tendency to objectify women so. Cameron was a great actor though.
Right! As well as the rich parents who are non existent in their children’s lives and even Bertram played on the whole “fat people are lazy” stereotype.
Luke wasn't white. Cameron was mixed
also jessie was the "cOwGiRl" from texas
cameron was half black
as an indian girl this made me rly happy thanks for speaking about this
I'm really suprised how popular Jessie is still considering all the characters are really stereotypical
It's because of people growing up with Debby. She was a lead on Disney since her tween years.
I'm commenting too much but this topic gets me excited lol
I just want to point out that ACCENTS ARE NOT BAD. Baljeet and Ravi do have accents because immigrants and people from India do. It's not a 'stereyotype' and doesn't offend me as long as it's not intended to or by non-South Asian people.
The accents aren’t bad at all, especially if the character is an immigrant or a foreign exchange student or something like that. Then it’s accurate for them to have an accent. It’s not the accent by itself but the character as a whole that’s a stereotype they’re a FOB that’s the stereotype. And it’s never really meant to show the life and experience of immigrants, but rather to just mock and make fun of them. Also like some pointed out in the media when it comes to accents, if it’s a European one it’s considered cool and attractive, but if it’s anything else it’s weird and like “speak English”.
How many Indian kids have you EVER met that had an accent? I bet it's zero right? That's because in real life, there are basically no Indian kids who immigrate to the United States during middle school. They either immigrate when they're kids (0-5) or for grad school and beyond (22+). The fact that so many Indian kids in American TV like Ravi, Baljeet, Chiraag (Diary of a Wimpy Kid), etc. have such ridiculously strong accents is really just a product of racism. Even the very minute few Indian kids who do immigrate during elementary/middle school who do have accents 99% lose their accent within months in order to better assimilate. The fact that American TV portrays these kids as being ridiculously large stereotypes like eating curry all the time and riding elephants and Bollywood dancing nonstop on top of their accents is the definition of racism.
Ok so im getting to the part where you're talking about the teachers. It is disrespectful and I have a similar experience with a teacher who was also indian. Basically what happened was that my class was so loud one day. She was trying our best to quiet them down, they wouldnt of course. Then she eventually got up and left the classroom crying. It was heartbreaking, she called the dean and he said "she's crying in the office debating coming back to teach at all" (just trying to paraphrase). What truly was disgusting was at the end of the whole thing where some of the students still had the argument of she doesnt teach. I cut out most of the story because its quite long enough. This happened in the carribbean 3 years back so this problem is still very relevant in schools (and my schools percentage was majority black as well.
I had a couple experiences with this in my schools as well. I went attended schools where it was mainly diverse. It made my blood boil seeing students act out towards a teacher, I was the one who would snap out at them. I'm a very quite person, but I've been told my voice carries a certain authority when I get mad enough. All I remember is saying: Shut the F* up!! And everything went silent.😅
@@wonderingmind8547 You know what, good on you for calling out this bullshit
i'm so glad that SOMEONE finally talked about this, i was so hurt watching this show as a young indian person
I remember always feeling uncomfortable in some scenes when they used him as a stereo type and looking back and man did they do him dirty
Not only that but Bunk'd also had stereotyped characters too:
Emma: Ditzy Blonde
Luke: Dumb, Flirty Jock
Ravi: Smart, Socially challenged Indian
Zuri: Sassy Black Girl
Griff: Troubled Bad Boy
Lou: Country girl
Tiffany: Genius Asian with overbearing mom
Jorge: Lazy, Unhygienic Mexican
Like I used to love these shows when I was so much younger but why is EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER so one dimensionally stereotyped? Like they really couldn't add any sort of complexity and just stuck with a lot of harmful stereotypes.
YES. It seems like disney is so lazy when creating characters so they just throw a character together based on stereotypes. Really annoying tbh..
You got Xander being the "Guitar Playing Boyfriend"
also is it just me or was jorge very similar to luke, cuz luke and jorge were both dumb and unhygienic. tiffany and ravi were also pretty similar
I’ve definitely noticed, going back and watching some of the shows I used to watch when I was a kid (thanks to Disney+) that they really did a terrible job representing Indian people. As an Indian girl, it really unsettles me now. As far as I can remember, Indian characters were always clueless and needed guidance from the white characters on how to “fit in” in America (Jessie and Suite Life of Zack and Cody come to mind).
Also, Flynn doing that “Indian” accent (I use quotes because it was a terrible one at that) during that one episode of Shake It Up was NOT it
my little sister loved jessie and seeing ravi always made me uncomfortable like i felt really bad for that little boy having to play such a stereotypical character. this might be a long shot but does anyone remember how to be indie? i used to watch that a lot when i was like 12-13
same! i totally forgot about that show until i saw this, i can’t even remember if it was good or not.
Kelly Elizabeth i think it was? it at least had like a bunch of different south asian characters with different personalities and backgrounds, even if it was stereotypical sometimes it’s kind of different bc it’s actually made by indian creators so they were referencing their own lives.
Brooo I remember How To Be Indie, the first season was nice but the second kinda got boring. It was still nice either way.
It’s honestly baffling how racist the show is.
Some Cartoons and Sitcoms don't age well
Which ones have? Lol
@@mxsscoast_7036 Victorious. Literally, to this day, people are still talking about the show to no end.
Aaliyah Foster I’ve been in a bunch of Victorious threads since Netflix picked it up.
Aaliyah Foster But it didn’t age well according to her video about Dan Scnider shows and their “crazy” black characters.
@@mxsscoast_7036 Cat and Jade's presence pretty much cemented themselves to Nickelodeon's most infamous.
If y'all want to see good Indian representation y'all should watch this Netflix show called "Never Have I Ever" It basically follows this Indian girl who's in high school and her journey with losing her dad and also accepting herself and her culture and what not.
It's cute, funny, and relatable and the representation is everything!!!
yesss i was soo hooked on that show its really good
When you were talking about how kids in your school made fun of their teachers' accents, I actually have experience with that, and it bothers and angers me so much when the same people who make fun of others' accents have really, really heavy accents in Foreign Language classes, and then instead of developing empathy for their teachers and/or classmates who know English as a second language, they just continue to make fun of them.... It just really bothers me, specifically, way too much, and I always have the very strong urge/desire to tell people who make fun of others' accents to "try to learn a completely foreign language that's not very similar to English-- as many Asian, Middle Eastern, Southeast Asian, African, and/or many different indegenous/ethnic/tribal languages (from anywhere in the world, really) fit that category-- and see how perfect your accent in that language is. Even try studying it for seven years or more, and see if your accent is perfect because unless you are extremely skilled at imitating (which the vast majority of people are not), your accent is most likely NOT going to be perfect. In fact, even if it is a language that is extremely similar to English (some European languages may fit this category, while many probably do not), chances are that your accent would probably not be very strong even after 4 or 5 years of studying it-- it depends on the language, too.. Would you like people that speak that language as a native language to make fun of you and ridicule you? How would you feel if they did so?"
I am so glad you mentioned this, Nicole (I'm sorry if I spelled your name wrong; please correct me if I did). Thank you so much! It needed to be said.😊
Also, I completely agree that the portrayal of Ravi in Jessie as the complete outcast is problematic and leads to terrible stereotypes.
I'm half Indian and I loved this show as a kid. I always felt a slight uneasiness towards the portrayal of Ravi and other Indian characters like Balgeet from Phineas and Ferb even as a child, but I could never put my finger on why exactly I felt that way. Indian characters are so predictable in western media and it's sad tbh. I think of all my Indian friends and family and how unique each of their personalities are yet all we equate to in movies and TV shows is the undesirable genius.
If you don’t think his character is an issue, imagine if Ravi was the charismatic ‘womaniser’ and Luke was the nerd. It never would have happened, because he’s not white
I mean the guy who played Luke was mixed in real life, but I get what you're saying. They never adressed his race so he was the white cool guy.
@Caleb Mayfield Have they ever had any Indian ones? And I don't mean somebody who's half Indian, but passes as white. Like thinking about it now, has there ever been any Indian characters who aren't a racist stereotype?
I had a huge crush on Ravi when I was a kid I never understood why he got treated the way he did.
Me too I had a crush on ravi him and zuri were the best
But like he was treated like shit and I always hated that
It's the way every indian kid in school was automatically compared to ravi from jessie despite not even looking like him
that story of your teacher broke my heart, even tho I shouldn't have expected anything uplifting to happen since it was a real story, I was still lowkey hoping for a slightly happy ending, but damn 😔
Being south Asian, I did find it annoying and hurtful that they always made the Indian kid the joke. They always made the character annoying and unlikable. Made me kind of embarrassed of myself as a kid.
it really did
Honestly, as a Southeast Asian American, I always felt the obligation to assimilate and "act white". I tried really hard to stop acting nerdy and falling victim to bullying from the stereotypes. I had to act like the white kids so I could be cool. I remember that the cool kids even had 1 Indian friend, but they made fun of her behind her back because she ate curry and they decided that she smelled bad.
I still feel bad about being white-washed, but honestly, it wasn't even my fault. How can young Asian American kids be proud of their culture if they are constantly ridiculed for it? And how can that change if the media continues to reinforce those attitudes?
Exactly.
The way Ravi was handled as a character was always off putting.
The worst effect of the "model minority" type of representation like Ravi and Baljeet is that it makes South and East-Asian kids feel insecure when they don't meet that bar and love school be top of their class.
every character on jessie was a stereotype
Its a better concept for an adult show tbh
I remember watching Jessie when I was little and I remember seeing Ravi Ross and thinking that all Indian/Asian people were really smart and dorky and unpopular Disney Channel really needs to understand that the shows they put out to the public can really shape the minds of young children
Same! Disney had a bad influence on me too because I would assume that just because someone is Asian, they are super super smart and are perfect
I didn’t even know this was a problem until you mentioned it!
Granted, I haven’t watched Jessie in many years, so my memories are pretty fuzzy. But I remember quite distinctly, I had a very, very sizable crush on Ravi (and Emma, but I hadn’t learnt of bisexuality back then, so...), and didn’t even notice any of this other stuff going on.
It’s so sad, because children’s ideas of foreign cultures aren’t even conscious decisions sometimes; it can be so subconscious, they hardly know it’s there.
That’s why it’s important to spread the _right_ ideas about foreign cultures. No child is born racist-adults making children’s television should freaking know better than to poison their growing minds. It’s just sick in general.
Fun fact: the guy that voiced Sanjay also voiced Baljeet.
wait WHAT
Which sanjay? From Sanjay and Craig?
glammer ᯽ yes!
@@whatthehellisthis a TINASHE STAN! You have taste
@code941musicSanjay from Sanjay and Craig
Hey, when you mentioned about how some Asians are represented almost as "asexual" and not romantic. Asexual just means a person had no sexual attraction to anybody, ergo some asexuals can date and be romantic since both sex and romance, are ENTIRLEY DIFFERENT things. I just wanted to clarify.
Yeah I agree, it kinda hurt a bit once she started calling them non-romantic, asexual, uptight, weird, and quirky. Because that’s an asexual stereotype in itself.
@@atlasleigh I know, I think she should have done her research on asexuals, or just check the definition.
@@jadacoombs5263 Same
When Jessie was on was my cousin and in Elementary school together. My cousin would get made fun of for our ethnicity and instead of being addressed by his real our classmates decided to call him "Ravi" instead. We went to a mostly White and Hispanic school there were only 3 brown kids attending at the time. I remember telling him that it was okay because Ravi was smart and he should take it as a compliment. That's all I could think to tell him as a little 5th grader. The sad thing is that we aren't Indian and all of our lives we have been compared to other Indians, we've been reduced down to nothing but being Indian, and when we tell people that were middle eastern they'll ignore us and continue to call us Indians.
I’m Sri Lankan and, honestly most of what I see is South Asians are practically nonexistent in popular media. Also it annoys me when people forget South Asia includes more than just Indians. There are Pakistanis, Bengali, Nepalis, Sri Lankans and more. Stop ignoring us! South Asia is NOT just India.
Wasn’t expecting a video on Ravi, but it definitely needed to be discussed Also, loving the new braids.
Your first teacher story just sounds like how kids in my school treat every teacher
I'm so sad for your teacher...it makes me really sad when that kind of stuff happens...most of our math teachers at school were men, a women university teacher came to replace my teacher and nobody respected her eventhough she explained everything better and she was more caring and understanding, but they ruined it, they were so disrespectful that she started being mean and cold..
americans can be so xenophobic and it's frustrating
Raj from big bang theory, Sanjay from FOP, Apu from The Simpsons, Sanjay from Modern Family... can someone name an Indian character in media that ISN'T a stereotype and depicted in a positive way???
The only cool Indian character I can think of is Symmetra from Overwatch.
Does Raj the elephant from _Camp Lazlo_ count?
There's Aziz Ansari's character (Tom Haverford) from _Parks & Recreation,_ sure he's done some selfish stuff, but he isn't much better or worse than any other character, and he doesn't speak with an Indian accent.
I didn't like _Sanjay & Craig_ but he wasn't stereotypical, and Connie Maheswaran from _Steven Universe._
@@starspeculation nothing wrong with having the indian accent as long as it isn't overly exaggerated but it really sucks when Indian characters are portrayed as selfish, whiny, nerdy and with overbearing parents.
I'm a few years late but now we have Pavitr Prabhakar
Exactly. Human beings are not stereotypes.
Honestly im so sick and tired of that stereotypical 'nerdy indian character', just to name a few:
Ravi Ross from Jessie
Baljeet from Pheneas&Ferb
Raj from the big bang theory
Sanjay from the fairly oddparents
Its literally just all a copy and paste of the same character: nerdy, social awkward, not dateable, heavy accent and what not.. Kinda like an alternative version to the token black character, so when the creators dont wanna add a black character to their series they just be like: 'HeY LeTs JuSt AdD aN InDiAn character and call it DiVersity!!' As if all the darkskin characters are the same to them anyway.
Really annoying how those characters always get the worst representation and you cant really complain about it because at least they added one in the end. But still Smh....🤦♀️ if you cant afford a good representation of a poc than just dont add one anyway, because than you get them people a bad picture 🤷♀️
I completely agree. It’s crazy, out of all the Ross kids I thought Ravi was the best, I lowkey crushed on him back when Jessie was popular 😂 but it’s true the comments and all that are disgusting. I think everything in this video needed to be said.
Mrs. Kipling was cool though ngl l liked Ravi’s pet Komodo Dragon
It was an ancient water monitor lizard
Mrs. Kipling was the best
One of my friends was racist, she claimed all mexican girls would wear leggings so boys would look at them, and she would mock them and laugh at them. Shes black, im not saying all black people are racist and ect. But it proves to show that anyone can have prejudice. Im not friends with her anymore, she wasnt a great friend, besides her racism and was a hypocrite.
Ok but I'm a Baljeet apologyst and he's great. He was so smart and his insight on situations was valued by the rest of the team. There was a girl in Isabella's explorers that liked him amd it was pretty cute. Also his relationship with Bufford is epic and as someome who is very strict with herself with her studies, he was so relatable. He also had a kickass song.
I have nothing to say about Ravi, just wanted to come here and defend my boy Baljeet.
I loved baljeet so much as an indian but dont get me started on the curry jello episode lmao
Honestly, Jesse would have been a lot cooler if everyone wasn’t a walking stereotype:
Ravi could have been this popular, athletic kid who was having trouble with school while trying to adapt to American culture and having a big dysfunctional family.
Emma could have been this purple haired, possible tattooed, wild child who listened to heavy metal and absolutely hated herself for liking fashion because its the reason her mom never had time for her.
Zuri’s whole arc could have been this sweet little girl struggling to realize that it’s okay to get help from others even though the media tells her that she needs to be loud, brash, and completely independent.
Luke could have been an absolute nerd that tries to impress his parents and have “normal” interest instead of being open about what he loves doing.
Bertram could have been this man who hated Jessie from the beginning bc he’s seen so many nannies give up on these kids that he works his ass off to take care of and recognized that she was only doing this so that she could possibly get an acting gig out of it.
But instead we got another show where every character is just a walking talking stereotype.
The Betram part is so cute. Especially that it implies he cared about the kids. We know he cares but whe learned it later
You dropped this 👑
dude, this is literally better than the actual show. great job
these concepts are so cool, i wish the show was like this instead
Every time I watched Jessie, I didn't like how they portrayed Ravi to have this accent that made people not really understand. I also realised most of the time Ravi talked, that laughing audience sound would come up and I didn't like that.
I remember in one episode. It is the teacup episode. When Ravi gets stuck in the teacup and sends the message to Luke on his sock, Luke reads it while mimicking Ravi’s accent which did not really need to be done.
im ethinically indian but i grew up moving around a lot and these were the only "representation" i had other than my parents so for a majority of my life i refused to acknowledge anything "indian" bout me (the culture, food, beliefs, etc.) and to this day i still struggle with openly learning and acknowledging everything even tho i really, *really* want to.
The story at the end broke my heart :( I was in elementary working hard on speaking English so I wouldn’t have a strong accent, kids are mean
Damn . Those kids wers so disrespectful 😡 .
My biology teacher my freshman year was from the Philippines and had a thick accent. Many of the kids disrespected him and made fun of his accent fight in front of his face. I was the only one there who took notes while everyone else would bee goofing off and interrupting him. They would make fun of him behind his back and it was just so terrible to hear considering how kind and forgiving the teacher was.
Truthfully Ravi and Zuri were the best characters and nobody could tell me otherwise🤷🏽♀️
well, i see your point, but i present to you: emma and luke, the best characters, and nobody could tell me otherwise
Ravi is basically the foreign-exchange student trough. Growing up watching the children‘s entertainment media that was targeted towards my age demographic growing up, there is always that one kid that not only has darker skin but has a noticeable accent that’s treated like a dork/loser/social outcast.
I never understood when watching the shows that someone with a different accent is labeled as a “nerd“ because their voice is different.
I'm glad you brought this up because I've been dying to talk about this
You have the most random profile I’ve ever seen
Jessie had sooo many stereotypes, like how they made Emma the dumb blonde, or how they made Zuri the sassy black girl and we didn't notice any of these until we were all much older.
Oh my god thank you so much for talking about this. Growing up with only Ravi or other stereotypes sucked, and I really appreciate that you (and many others) noticed that actual Indians aren’t like that (and that accent isn’t even real)
Thank you for speaking on this topic. As an Indian American myself I have always been embarrassed about my culture and even religion (Hindu). I’ve always been mocked growing up but I never stood up for myself. I always tried to hide my culture. I remember whenever the Indian culture was brought up in my geography or history class I would always be so embarrassed to speak about it and I would always lower myself in my seat. I remember the kids in my class mocking Hinduism and I wasn’t able to speak up about because I was so embarrassed.
Does anyone notice that Ravi calls the parents Mr. dad and Mrs. mom even though they're all adopted, not including Emma?
If I recall correctly, Ravi’s main love interest was this girl that was also very into lizards. She didn’t stick around very long, but if I’m not mistaken, Jessie and Zuri were the only two with long-term love interests in the show.
Caleb Mayfield YOU’RE RIIIGHT. I completely forgot about her.
I think the only good Indian representation on Disney Channel was Mo from Lemonade Mouth. Being Indian was an important part of her character, but not the only thing about her. She even got to sing lead in some songs, something that DC doesn’t really let Asian actors do is movies/shows.
And I agree about Ravi, I didn’t really notice all this til i got older.
Honestly, as a Bengali girl that grew up here in the US, Indian characters on these shows were the only representation I ever got when it came to my culture. Growing up I struggled a lot with my identity and culture, and had a lot of internalized racism. These shows definitely had a big part to play in that. I am 16 now and am finally learning to love and appreciate my culture. These shows are absolutely awful. I hate them. I am a perfect case study of why these stereotypes have negative affects on the mentalities of children. It took me so long to finally break off my internalized racism, and I seriously hate to think that kids growing up now may have to go through a similar experience. Like you said, kids of all backgrounds watch their shows, and nobody should be made to feel like an alien or weird or bad.
Everyone is a stereotypes in the show
Andrea Lira-Martinez not really cause in the first episode Emma was seen as smart but then they turn her into a dumb blonde girl for some reason
@@carlacarrero4975 ikr it's wierd
Which stereotype was jessie
@@deepfriedspaghetti982 I think she was supposed to be the Taylor swift stereotype thats bitter about men and has dreams but the weird thing about Jessie is that I thought she was going to give up on being an actor and become a musician since there were so many hints of her being talented with music but the show never does that
@@candylunaburst yeah it is
But at the end of the series they call Ravi kind and unique and he is usually portrayed positively
Caleb Mayfield you are right but on the other hand he is the nicest character on the show
Caleb Mayfield you’re right
I see what your trying to say, but nobody, especially kids, remember Ravi for being nice and unique person. They remember him for being a nerdy Indian boy with no friends, a thick accents, and no social skills.
Aliza George You have a good point
I just thought,
The fact that these things slipped over our head as kids shows how normalized they were and how they influenced the internalized racism and stereotypes today. (Not just shows tho)
Do you guys remember the episode where Jessie was thinking of a good film to make and Ravi proposed a Bollywood style movie?
I've been rewatching Jessie and while it can be really entertaining, there is so much wrong with it. All the characters are stereotypes, 90% of the humor is just the characters making fun of each other for said stereotypes, the kids are super poorly behaved and the morals of the show are just way off base, and the show is constantly disrespecting other people's cultures. Ravi deserved way better, and another example is when they go to "Africa." Never in the episode do they state where in Africa they are, but they go on a safari and get chased by a rhino, basically implying that all of Africa is the Sahara desert, underdeveloped and dangerous, when in fact Africa is an extremely diverse continent with all types of different ecosystems, societies, languages and cultures. That episode really pissed me off.
Lets not get started on the xenophobia that show had, from Ravi being portrayed as the stereotypical Indian to Tiffany being portrayed as the typical East Asian.
I hope you will talk about Lolirock someday. It came in 2014, but you can find most episodes on TH-cam. Lolirock is a magical girl show that originated in France. My favorite is a black girl named Talia. She’s very serious and a bit harsh, but she’s very intelligent and deeply concerned about her friends and family. She’s in a pop band with her friends and they’re all princess who fight against an evil sorcerer who has taken over their kingdoms.
You know Lolirock?!
Also Talia is my favourite character!
Talia is a goddess
Lolirock is super good I’m so mad that Karens canceled it because Talia said “hell yeah”
that story about your teacher just broke my heart.
I remember Luke telling Ravi to go pray to his “animals gods”
I don’t remember that but daang.
Emma is airhead, Luke is the stereotypical fboy, Ravi was the stereotypical smart asian, and Zuri was the stereotypical black girl who couldn't keep her mouth shut. C'mon Disney, they all had a stereotyped character.