Eurovision 2017: Review of the top crimes and jury-televote wrongs
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 มิ.ย. 2017
- Eurovision video bloggers William and Deban review the Top 10 crimes of Eurovision 2017. The jury-televote wrongs include Estonia and Finland not making the final, Austria receiving zero points and Alma coming 19th with the jury.
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I believe Austria 2017 still got a distinction of being the highest ranked 0-pointer ever on Eurovision. I mean, he finished 16th out of 26 with no help from the televote. It still speaks volumes on the high quality of this song.
Edward Reeves true
Happy we have juries huh
William, you should enter a speed reading contest xD
In my humble opinion, my top 3 crimes for ESC2017:
3)Netherland, France and UK not in Top10.
2) Italy not in top 3
1) Finland not in grand final
France song is good but the english part killed it. For me top 3 is: Portugal, Belgium, Italy;
It did not kill it towards the televote.
italy didn’t deserve top 3, top ten sure but not 3!
I wish France left the French chorus because I preferred the original version over the english/French hybrid
@@emanuelfer456I agree however tbf they had to account for a change of lyrics since the scandal of Alma playing this before the validity of the age of the song
I thought I was not going to be mad anymore, but as soon as you mentioned Latvia I was back in full rage mode. This year's contest was almost entirely a crime imo.
awww, stay strong coil :-) thx for watching!
I'm soo happy someone is talking about my country! It was such a heartbreak for us!
ogene getting just 15 televoting points in the final.... before that they were 5'th!
I loved ogene but I don't think their vocals translated well on the live stage
They had to choose a better song
All the crimes associated with Estonia and Finland are my biggest crimes. Two of my favourite songs this and of all of Eurovision and they didn't qualify...I'm still devastated :'(
Finally ❤ My top crimes are Finland, France, UK and Switzerland at least. This was the year of crimes...
You'll def see some - most? - of these in the video :)
Aino Riekkola Agree with all of them. The biggest crime was the winner, obviously. My ears are bleeding!
I don't really care for the Estonian song, but that mic should not have failed. It is a crime on the organizational level.
My nr. 1 crime, is the 15p from the televotes for the Netherlands. It was emotional, perfect voices, it elevated the song to a 5th place with the juries. I just do not get it.
Pineaux
Portugal stole all the emotional vote xD
Netherlands song was generic to feel emotional. They were great tho, but you need something else
My biggest crime still Austria getting 0 points from the televoting. I was so disappointed... Nathan and his song deserved much bigger than that. And also i hope that Russia will return next year with a good song :) I want to be able to vote for my favourites again, ha.
It was funny rewatching that moment, when the hosts announced "zero point to..." and everyone started cheering (likely assuming it was Spain), and then "...Austria", and it changes to gasps of shock.
-Albania and Georgia didn't qualify from semi final 1
-Netherlands was robbed by televote
-Belarus finished 17th and Denmark finished 20th (should be top 10)
The biggest crime is Albania didn't qualify to final. Lindita has the best rock vocal. She can make 20seconds long note and still didn't qualify?!?
The two biggest crimes in my mind was Italy only finishing 6th and Armenia finishing 18th😨 I still can't believe it! Both deserved much more! I don't know what Europe was thinking!
The Bulgarian jury and the Portuguese jury had the same countries in their top 12, so it makes sense that they didn't give any points to each other. Bulgaria had Austria, The Netherlands and Israel in their top 3 in both the semi-final and the GF. I don't think they intentionally hurt each other.
Pimenova
They did xD
Everybody knew it was a 3 horse race xD
I can't wait for next year's eurovision! Everytime I watch your videos, it feels like it's family to me.
I will miss you guys so much! :/
Kevin_Fuchs Great comment!
Thank you! Well, it's the truth. Everytime during the last months that I was sad or didn't feel good, I came here because Wiwibloggs is full of positive people and they cheer me up :) I really hope I will meet these guys in person one day! So thanks Wiwibloggs for doing what you guys are doing.
Kevin_Fuchs Same for me! They always make me smile and feel happy, even when I'm stressed.
How isn't Alex Florea forcing himself on Ilinca Băcilă in the end of the Romanian yodel song not on this list.
When Austria got 0 televote points I was like HO-NEY????
I missed you guys together 😊😊😊
it's 2020 and I'm reviewing these crime videos and I just wanna say... I feel like I'm your friend already, you guys are amazingly empathetic and very very good speakers! I wish I could be in a coffee shop somewhere eating muffins and talking eurovision with you two right now!
lots of hugs from Portugal :)
Am I the only one who likes Lithuania this year?! 😂
. yes :) .. ..
This is how many times William took his glasses off:
i liked the hosts. i think they were giving their best...
yesssss ive been waiting so longgg ^_^
So glad it's hear. Thank you for watching!
you mean here lol 😂
Thanks guys! It's lovely seeing you again!
I am sure if Flashlight would represent Australia, it would be higher in jury voting
SlavicBoy Barti but very low in televote
actually, that IS SOOOO TRUE :(
SlavicBoy Barti Jury hates Poland.:((((((( If not televoting,Poland would become 25th last year.
But Australia would never send a song like "Flashlight". Their focus is on contemporary chart pop.
the fact that sweden came fifth in the grand final, meaning italy was left at 6th place, is just baffling.
francesco might've not deserved to win (his live performance wasn't as good as it could've been) but he would've deserved to be in top 3, at least.
and sweden? why did it even qualify? it seems to me that no matter what they send to the contest, they always finish in the top 5.
My number 1 crime is that italy was on the 6th place while the bookmakers italy placed number 1 for a lot off weeks... It's weird
Austria was the biggest crime of the year getting zero points from the televote. Poor Nathan. at least he got 93 points from the juries :)
Let's be honest:
1. Georgia, Finland, Serbia deserved to qualify
2. Poland was ROBBED, while Australia recieved points
3. All the cool song finished low (Denmark, Cyprus, Poland, Greece, Israel, Austria)
4. Israel was VERY UNDERRATED
5.Australia is overrated by juries
6. And of course, ass during the Jamala's performance
TomL Dont agree with 3 and 4
Agreed
Agree with every single one, wiwibloggs, you are my favourite people ever because you literally are me, love you allllllllll! ❤️
And I don't want to speak about Austria.It was my favorite.Nathan was the best.
Estonia, Switzerland, Serbia, Latvia and Finland not qualifying - THE BIGGEST CRIME IN EUROVISION 2017!
SWITZERLAND NOT QUALIFYING AND FRANCE BEING UNDERRATED IS THE BIGGEST CRIME
RXGaming21 Alma's vocals weren't that good in the GF though.
RXGaming21 Agree 😢 They were my top 2 😭
RXGaming21 omg switzerland. that was so sad 😭
AND LET'S NOT FORGET MACEDONIA
RXGaming21 totaly agree with both!!
I definitely agree, the fact that Finland and Estonia didn't even qualify is truly a crime! When I saw both of their rehearsals I was certain that they would qualify. Maybe Eurovision is harder to predict after all? All I hope for is that both countries qualify next year and that they prove the juries wrong!! 🙏🏻🇪🇪🇫🇮
And I do think that Georgia deserved to qualify for the final - Tamara was amazing!! And even the UK deserved a better spot than 15th place, because Lucie was amazing live... 🇬🇪🇬🇧
LOVE IT WIWIBLOGGS!!!❤️❤️💙💙🔺🔺🔺
what about italy's 6th place? this was the top crime
Italy not being in the top 5 was a crime too
Jury’s put Belgium 13th in the semi finals wtf
When Finland came as a crime, I cried a little, I'm still not over it, I'm ready to say goodbye to Estonia(pun kind of intend) and Iceland, but NORMAJOHN... thank u. Also thank u guys for this year crimes, I agree 100%(but would add few more)
Love you guys. Lots of love from Australia! x
I thought Italy not winning was number one.
I think I am the only person that who love this year's hosts 🙄 And I can't understand... Is there any colored person in Ukraine? Yes maybe there is but I think 'Celebrating Diversity' is not only about people's color. Anyway. I wanna say I'm in love with your videos. Greetings from Turkey! ❤️ 🇹🇷
Finland was soo undeserved, they had an amazing song! And I totally agree with you guys on the presenters, their jokes were sooo bad. Anyways, awesome video! Much love
Verona is one of my favourite songs!! I was so heartbroken when the mic failed :(
YOU'RE THE BEST GUYS :-) :-) :-)
MUCH LOVE FROM GREECE
Yasss I was waiting for this video! ^^
thank you for alma the juries destroyed us 😢
Hello guys! While I can see the reason behind your thoughts that Bulgarian and Portuguese juries underrated each others songs, I sort of disagree with you naming this as one of the top crimes. Putting songs like these 10th, 15th or 20th could easily be explained by musical taste - sorry, Portuguese song is not the typical Eurovision type of song by any means. I mean, at least they can pretend that it's just their taste.
If you want to look for real crimes in jury voting, look at Armenia and Azerbaijan putting each other dead last by EVERY member of the "professional" jury. They've been doing this thing for years with obvious (pure political) reasoning and nobody gives a damn about it. Look at my favourite example - Larisa Rubalskaya @ Russia, 2016 - she put Australia 24th and Ukraine 25th! Think about it! Not 10th, not 15th, not 20th - she didn't even try to pretend that it's just her musical taste - she OBVIOUSLY voted for Sergey Lazarev as a winner by putting both direct competitors last. That's what could be called a real crime, not something like Bulgaria finishing at #3, #4, #18, #16 and #23 among Portuguese jury members.
Again, I personally disliked Portugal (I just hate all those jazz vibes, I wouldn't watch Eurovision if I liked this type of music) and wasn't a big fan of Bulgaria either so I can easily see jurors not putting both in the top 10. For me, UK finishing just 15th was literally the biggest crime this year even though I don't have any exact person to blame for that :/
Armenia gets only 18th place.It was unbeliveble.
Hoso Hoso Denmark 20th
yesss finally
Thanks for the video :) I've been waiting for this.. I compeletely agree with all the crimes and want to add that I think it's also crime that Armenia hasn't finished in the top 10 and Italy in the top 5...
My biggest crime - Latvia at the end!!! As well as Finland with pure art!👎 this was like one of the worst ESC of all-time!👏
I'm from Latvia and it was heartbreaking for us!
Wiwi thanks for giving us a solution for PED!There was just so many crimes this year i was shocked(Finland,Latvia,Estonia,Switzerland,Macedonia)and not to mention some microphone fails during Estonian performance
amazing video
Francesco coming 6th was the biggest crime for me! Italy should have won!!! :(
I'm getting a kind of fan of you and your wiwibloggs :v you both are adorable!
UK was the biggest crime ): Latvia and Serbia too!
My personal big crimes:
1-Finland Out (My favourite of all songs beside my contry song,Portugal)
2-Iceland Out (also in my top 5)
3-Estonia Out (My top 10)
4-The Netherlands underrated by televote (My top 5)
Estonia and Latvia :(
MeryRG Esc :( :(
You should make William's husband react to the finalists next! I loved this video, It combats my Eurovision-is-over-until-next-year blues ❤️❤️❤️
Aaah love to hear you guys talk about eurovision again :D
I have to say though, the not qualifying of Estonia wasn't because of the mic fail.
During the jury final i bet the mic worked and they placed it 17th.
When the mic didn't work the public ranked it 6th (which is i think a decent place).
Soooo, the jury ranking it so low is the real crime. The mic would've been a crime it they would've placed under 10th place with the public. Just my opinion, but I thought i would tell you :)
Even though I am really not a fan of the Estonian song, the microphone failing was utterly unforgivable. I personally didn't want it to qualify but I was really shocked when it didn't. Everyone who I had talked to about Eurovision beforehand had Estonia in their top 5 or 6 and that convinced me that it would go through. Even though I am not a fan of the song itself, the whole situation just seems unfair.
Austria getting zero points on the televote completely broke my heart. Running on Air was my favourite song in the whole competiton and Nathan Trent deserved so much more. I am really disappointed for him. Australia also shocked me, it was my second favourite of the whole thing and to see my top two come last and second to last was really disappointing.
One crime for me that wasn't mentioned is Spain's Manel Navarro getting no points from the jury. Yes, I get the fact that I am in the minority that like the song but no points is just a joke. Giving someone no points whatsoever pretty much means you are calling their song not a song in my opinion. Yes, Manel did struggle vocally and I understand that people do find the song monotonous and some even find it boring, but the staging was very well produced and it gave a really feel-good summery feel in my opinion which no other song gave in the grand final.
Really enjoyed this video! :D
Jordan Munn on the spain topic i have a little opinion and thats the controversy, in spain national qualifier exist powerful rumors that was rigged to make one of the judges friend win, if thats true or not i dont know, i dont have internal information, but true or not the fact that the rumours even exist tarnished the reputation of the song fir anyone who heard about the controversy, and like it or not the judges arent impartial, they re humans and have opinions, so when they felt the song was "unfairly" there, more if they liked mirelas song, probably didnt saw it as fair to give it its points, and im not saying all judges thought like that if a good part of the judges did can explain his lack or points
I personally don't care for the rumours that surrounded the Spanish national selection. There may have been something going on behind the scenes with his team or with one of the judges but by the rules that RTVE set objectivo Eurovision this year Manel Navarro won fairly. There is no point complaining about who wins a national selection. If there isn't solid and complete proof that the winner cheated then they are going to Eurovision. Simple as that.
I don't let the uncertain circumstances surrounding his song cloud my view of it. I personally really enjoy "Do It For Your Lover" It puts me in a good mood and it's great to have on while relaxing on a sunny afternoon!
Also, the juries shouldn't really be judging a song based on the circumstances on how it was chosen. I certainly see where you are coming from and I do understand why Spain came last with the juries, there is no hiding the fact that he did have a lot of vocal issues and I do understand that the song is a very aquired taste. But giving the song 0 points is very unfairly harsh in my own opinion. Spain can't really seem to win either way with the Spanish fans these days. In 2014 they went with the televote and Ruth Lorenzo won over Brequette which the fans didn't agree with. This year they go with the jury and Manel Navarro wins over Mirela. It just seems to be a never ending cycle.
I personally really hope Spain can get back on track next year as the last three years have delivered three results I don't personally agree with. Barei, Edurne and Manel all deserved higher in my opinion but hey, that's just me.
Finland sends its best entry ever and they fail to qualify :(
Estonia sends its second best entry ever after Elina and Stig and fails to qualify :(
Switzerland sends its second best entry ever after Sebalter and fails to qualify :(
Denmark sends its second best entry after Emmelie de Forest and ends up among the bottom 7 and almost fail to qualify :(
France was not in the top 10
Macedonia was a big favourite since the release of the song and fails to qualify...
Latvia placed dead last in semi 1...
The main crimes in my opinion😔
And of course the "guest" during Jamala's performance.Very disrespectful...
So true about Denmark!! My favourite song of ESC 2017
ESC Lore Also Armenia Azerbaijan UK not reaching top 10
ESC Lore Second best entry for Estonia?! Did you forget about Kuula and Urban Symphony or is your taste in music that bad?
TheOtherSide Sorry,I started to watch ESC in 2016 and I don't know so much about past entries :)
Let's do thisssss!!!💕
OMG YOU GUYS GOT IT PERFECT FINLAND WAS MY FAVOURITE OF THE YEAR
The Netherlands deserved better✨💗👌🏻
RomyPln much better 😢
RomyPln Is 😐
Hungary is my no.1 crime. Punished by the juries even though he came 2nd in his semi final televote behind only Bulgaria. The way juries just blindly punish anything that has just the tinyest bit of rap in it is so infuriating! Deserved so much better in the Grand Final
Philip Fernandes 100% agree
No.1 Crime is Italy coming 6th and Finland not going through to the final. Period.
Here are a few of my crimes :
-Italy not winning
-Switzerland not qualifying
-Portugal winning
-The Netherlands getting screwed over by the televote
-The dutch presenters telling everyone how Manel won his national final by corruption (which was never proven)
-Sweden qualifying
Yaaass I wanted that video sooo much :3
I just wanna admit one thing....You said a few times: "XY didn't made it to the top 12 of the jury vote" or "They should've put it in the top 12"
But that's not correct,because it's actually a top 10 (points 1-8, 10 & 12 ----->TOP 10)
Amazing video :)
I'd also have shoved how poorly Francesco did in both the votes. He was nailed on to win the televote for sure, what went wrong there?! Also i think Televote should have double the points of the Jury, either that or incorporate an entire new points system for the televote which means they have more of an impact on the results than the jury.
Italy wasn't good enough live that's why it failed
top songs yep. thats a small part of it. Thinking it would mainly be because they had to cut 40 seconds off the original.
Jack Picko MSport Dear lovers of old voting system
Why love the juries (old voting system) and hate televotes (new voting system)?
But, LOOK AT MY COUNTRY.
ROMANIA IS HATED BY JURIES
Shame on you juries because don't voted with Romania.
Thank you Moldova, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Israel, Malta and Greece because forever voted with we
Hi.Greetings from Estonia! 🌞 Thank you for your support! I really hope we will burn this house down in Portugal! 😂 🌞🌞 Have a nice summer,Deban and William!
Part 3:
4. France deserved more from the jury simple as that really. Loved the staging, performance and vocals!
3. This is hands down my favorite Finnish entry of all time and the biggest crime of the season! For this to qualify for the televote and not the jury is beyond me as the jury should award artistic efforts. Instead they seem to reward plastic pop rather then this masterpiece, which is a crime in itself.. Normas performance was amazing, the staging was amazing and the song was amazing #JusticeForBlackbird!
2. However it was far more obvious in the bulgarian jury as they had Portugal in 23rd place, wereas Portugal overall had Bulgaria in 14th place and had quality songs in their top 10, which is a more plausable score tbh. Bulgaria just actually flipped the odds more or less.
1. ''Blackbird'' was far more of a serious crime then this cringy ass performance from Estonia. Fun fact Estonias performance was the only one in this Eurovision season that literally gave me anxiety. So relatively content that they didn't qualify tbh.
Great video you guys! Looking forward for more content in the future!
incredible to see the seriousness and enthusiasm in the top comments' section, no one talk about the cat interrupting video
we live for eurovision
My biggest crime actually is DENMARK PLACING 20th , Its shouldve been top 15 or top 10 , it had so much hype , nice song and that voice
algis fedaravis Denmark qualifying was a crime
"That's not my cat dying is it" 😂😂😂😂
I hope you're going to do a video about with tracks did better because of the live performance (Moldova, Netherlands) and which tracks did worse because of it (Switzerland, Australia, Belgium). I think there were more countries that had a harder time improving their act for the live performance versus their studio track. I think Wiwibloggs has done this before, and would love to see it again.
Austria deserved better ❤
-I dont understand Greece and Australia over Finland.Where is the proffesional jury?
-Also I dont understand the jury with Estonia ,Lithuania better seriously?!
-Azerbaiyan 14th behind Croatia... deserve top 10.
-UK deserves TOP 10
--Switzerland:Is a crime the staging.If Miruna would have wore a red dress and falling her petals,more than top 10 in the semifinal
-And Spain,We deserved 0 points to the televote xD
Greetings from Spain.I love youu
I've been waiting for this video :) then you are going to do: singing songs from memory 2017?
For me the crimes are Switzerland, Albania, Estonia, FYROM, Italy, France and Poland
Estonia broke my heart 💔😭
It was a crime how Georgia failed to qualify. That voice wasn't meant to remain stuck in the semis
the juries that didn't qualify Belgium in the semi was also SHOCKING...
The lines were already closed during Jamala performance so the prankster didn't harm Australia at all. Also, it's you need to be in the top 10 to get any points not top 12.
I'm sorry for Latvia but it is the truth that she reminded me of Child's Play and her voice or her singing performance wasn't good, so I can understand why she got last in the jury televoting but I agree that it is a crime that she got only one point. But what for me is the most crime its that the audience gave her 20 points.... It remember me of the hyped Spain 2016. I think that the most people thought that she get with no problems to the finals but no she didn't get trough. But what also is a crime that Poland and Israel only got 21 and 22 :( But thanks lord that you did such an amazing video! Love you guys
ive been waiting so long for this and i agree with everything on this list. heres my crimes-
lets get non qualifying countries out of the way-
estonia
macedonia
latvia
iceland
finland.
azerbaijan not making top 10
uk only getting 12 televotes
australia, croatia and greece qualifying
Honestly I can't stand "Verona" so it not making the final I'm OK with. Also the juries voted on the performance the night before thougg? So Laura's mic failing doesn't effect that.
And I kind of like the absence of Russia, I feel like because of them not being there it really gave Bulgaria a well deserved boost. I am however on your side with wanting to have as many countries in the contest as possible every year.
I couldn't agree more about Estonia! It was my favorite song this year.
Italy was robbed
First. Also I've been waiting for this forever.
Sorry for the delay - William is the only one editing videos at the moment :(
Wiwibloggs fair enough
Aww it's so nice of You that You use Poli Genova's song for the intro❤
there were a lot of countries that didn't get enough points.. for example the netherlands only got 15 points
Crimes:
Poland, Albania, Georgia, San Marino, Iceland, and also Lithuania,
they all deserved to do better ❤️
rainbow cookiie albanian song was bad but i agree with others
Albania was good! it was my favourite this year.
Where's Switzerland?
Uk was a crime being 15th
really
Tim Blanks well you can't say we did better than 25th because of politics can you? No. So you can't really say it was over rated when everything was going against us. Every single point we got was because of the song.
lindsey0806 I voted for UK ,magical performance 😍😍😍
I hoped so much for Uk getting very high - even gave them a lot of my calls - especially because Brits voted out of EU.
At least they sang on their native language
There were a lot of crimes this year, I agree with all points you have spoken about in the video. I am also very sad about Albania Estonia Georgia and Switzerland not making it to the final for example. But there is something I am very happy about. 2016 und 2017 a song in another language than English won (ok. 2016 was a part of the song in English, but not the whole song) and I hope counties will bring more songs in other languages than English (of course not England Ireland and Austrailia because thats the language they speak). :). (Sorry for my bad English) 😂
The one time Finland sends a quality entry, this happens ;-;
seems like we all forgot about how low armenia finished when they predicted it to finish in the top5😂
I really don't care what the judges say. 'Verona' is still my favourite and most-played track from Eurovision 2017.
the biggest crime of esc 2017 was czech republic getting 0 from the televote in semi final one 💔
Carli Sunjoy she was my winner :(
Aoife Kostov
Martina got 2 televote points from Portugal!
Aoife Kostov she got at least 2 not 0
The 2 countries in the second semi that were the safest qualifiers (estonia and switzerland) both DID NOT QUALIFY.
I was in tears after the second semi results. I couldnt sleep. While i was sleeping i made an ocean of tears.
Estonia and switzerland
You will always be in my heart.
My boys❤️love you
Can't forget latvia 🇱🇻 was such a good song ❤️