Fun fact: pay attention to the floating mirrors and you'll notice Omori is the only one out of the group that actually has a reflection as you walk past it. Its purpose is a very subtle reminder that none of the comfort you find when you interact with it is real - there's a small chance for that reminder not to be so subtle when you do.
One of the coolest things about Omori is once you finish the game, replaying it with the knowledge of the ending completely changes your view on the entire gameplay! There are so many clues everywhere. Also, Omori, Aubrey, Kel, and Basil are all roughly 12 while Hero and Mari are about 15, just so you know!
@2:00 This, then, is the pure *GENIUS* of Omocat. Yes, this game is utterly *STUFFED* full of Chekhov's Guns. You're right to question EVERYTHING. Absolutely Everything you see might or might not have significance, leaning a bit more towards the former. The game, especially Headspace, is absolutely stuffed full of allegory and metaphors. Those who pay attention and actually think about what they are seeing and why, will come to realize certain things much sooner than those who are just blindly stumbling through.
Yesssss- there are so many hints and tiny secrets that are just… top notch. Rewatching playthroughs is honestly mindblowing when you see all the foreshadowing-
I like how you break down Hero's big character flaw. Being caring, peaceful and harmonious is great! But there is a point where any positive trait has its downsides. Being caring to the point where they don't care for themselves, trying to be peaceful with a person who can't be reasoned with or trying to accommodate a person who is really toxic. Hero's fear of rejection, criticism or embarrassment is huge. Of course, this makes him a pleasure to be around but it hurts him in the long run.
I’d say that people pleasing is definitely a big part of Hero’s character! A large part of the game with Hero as focus shows that he is more often focused on helping others and being there for his friends while ignoring / downplaying his own feelings and hurt.
SPOILERS!! I mean, the dreams kind of are that way for a reason- he created a place where nothing happened and Mari was still alive and their friends would go on colorful bright adventures (yay)!!! Sorry if I'm being obvious, just wanted to share my thoughts
@@lazymay7654 yeah i know but its fun the way who sunny represents the things of the reality in his own world, and is so relatable bc my dreams are like this sometimes
@@whalexxro1354 I know this conversation is a bit old, but I'm pretty sure Sunny dreams about being thrown into the dungeon, cause he's desperately trying to prevent the group/him from finding Basil (and the truth, cause Basil kinda represents that). The measures Omori is taking are getting more and more extreme in the course of the game. At first Basil just disappears, but that's not enough, so the dream is starting to create distractions (helping Captain Spaceboyfriend) and when that isn't enough either, Omori and his friends are literally thrown into jail cause that's a place you're not supposed to escape from (which would mean that they won't find Basil). We all know what happened when that didn't work either :x
@@stormnightmare4378 Yeah I know!! And is crazy bc u know, Omori it's just the defense mechanism of Sunny's psique, but when everything that he do didn't work he just take the most extreme way to protect Sunny.
I am a people pleaser, to the point where I don't like starting relationships because I'm afraid of disappointing them. I'm not sociable and can't engage in conversations or interactions with people I don't know, and with the people I do know, I try not to unload my baggage onto them. I desperately want to connect with someone on a deep level, but I am afraid of disappointing someone I could have made happy with my silence. It's something I've been working on with my therapist but cuz of the covids and it being summer, I can't get out and meet new people, or I just procrastinate. It's why I love OMORI so much, its a game with powerful topic about social anxiety, self-isolation, many other spoilery issues I relate to, and a fear of hurting people we care about.
@@supermarket. Short for 'area of effect'. Basically means something that targets an area rather than a single target (or the whole party in this case).
Just so you know! It is best to synchronise your entire team to one emotion, then make the enemy an emotion that is weak to the ones you are using. If you spread your emotions thinly, at least one of your party members is going to be vulnerable to whatever emotion the enemy is using.
Yeah I was lucky to wander into it by accident on my playthrough, and then when I looked stuff up about it later I realized it is considered a secret part
I remember a comment in a OST video than was like this: "Sweetheart is a very hateable villain. The first moment I saw her i wanted to kick her to space"
1:03:30 - 1:07:06 ~ Reflections on people pleasing 1:11:42 - 1:14:03 ~ When there's a response to setting boundaries As a people pleaser, these timestamps tug at my heartstrings. I can't articulate why right now. I'll just comment below this one after work probably. I thought this part was great overall though! The playthrough is going great so far. Thanks so much for your thorough enjoyment!
Reminder to water Basil's flowers whenever you're in that area. Wouldn't be a bad idea to drop by when you're at a Pluto station. Also, just some battle strategy advice: I find that giving all your friends the emotion that's strong against the foe's emotion is usually more effective than giving each friend an emotion that boosts one of their skills. Having the emotion advantage against a foe boosts your damage against them (including damage from your skills) while also reducing their damage to you. So for instance, a happy foe will be much less dangerous if all your friends are sad, but angry friends would be in trouble.
People-pleasing was something I struggled with a lot as a kid. I had very few friends and desperately wanted people to like me, so I thought granting favors again and again without asking for anything in return would have helped. Doing others' work, giving money, fetching and delivering things, being the goalie during P.E., accepting undesirable roles in school plays, etc. It took me way too long to realize the only time my classmates ever talked to me was when they needed something from me. The first time I said "no" to someone was probably the most cathartic thing I'd ever done up to that point. I've always liked Hero, but seeing him have the same struggles I did made me absolutely adore him. What a phenomenal game.
About people pleasing... I consider myself to have been doing it for a long time. When my family asked how i was, i always said the same thing "i'm good", never really speaking about my problems, doubts, and insecurities because of fear of letting them down. Even some times lying about little things so that they would feel proud. Over time it made me feel really lonely and separated from t hem. Hopefully, i'm starting to connect with them and explore myself outside of my inner world. To do people pleasing for me it was denying myself the chance to make mistakes, i made them proud with my achievements and responsibility, but i never grew accustomed to err, so now i have a really hard time not putting high expectations on myself, and feel like i always have to do something useful for someone and make sure that it is of the highest quality. Sorry for venting, but sharing my experience could help people feel more comfortable sharing their stories too, and i'm always curious how other people experience this things that i have been feeling for a long time. Perhaps i could learn a little, or just feel more understood.
When people ask me how I'm doing, I try to break the social norm of just saying I'm good. Because at least half the time I'm not well, and if you're going to ask I won't lie to you
When I was in residential my behavioral specialist made me do a ton of exposures. I also had people pleasing as one of my bans (I had to mark a check in my ban book every time I noticed myself doing it). Being assertive is hard and it can be pretty scary, we don’t want to make people sad or angry. Still, it’s not our job/responsibility to make sure _everyone_ is happy _all the time._ Like you said, we are not in control of others emotions. It’s important to look out for ourselves. “Do I feel safe?”, “Is this person trustworthy?”, “Am sacrificing what I care about by saying yes?”.
On people pleasing, from a person who'd do it extensively on high school period: Although it is true that I began doing it to attempt preventing people close to me from feeling upset/sad or to comfort them, it'd quickly spiral out of control in my head where I'd think that now that I've been acting in a specific way, stopping being a yes-man for these people would break the perception of me that I thought I gave those people, and so make them think I was being two-faced or that I simply didn't care anymore/cared less about them. And so I'd continue to do it out of an unfounded belief that people would be turned away from me because I wasn't "being nice anymore" or that I'd hurt people going through difficult times by stopping being a "comfort zone" for them (which in retrospect, this mindset probably did much more damage than actually help them). I've since grew out of this, but I think it's important to keep in mind that this mindset will not only create a self-perpetuating spiral (You keep acting a certain way because you think people are used to you acting this way, so you don't want to disappoint them. But that only lets the situation escalate further, and the impact of when you _actually_ decide/is forced to stop is muuuch worse than what it would've been at first, if at all), but bending yourself backwards to do the biddings of a friend in a precarious emotional state can easily slip into toxic relationships and create a lot of dependency that _will_ hurt them once you have to stop acting that way (and yes, it will eventually happen).
You've missed an entire area in the Pyrefly Forest. You can go to the right on the screen before the long wooden bridge which leads to the king crawler fight and sprout mole village (the one at around 5-10 minutes into the video) It's a bit hidden but you can walk between the trees and reach the right side of the screen, leading to another location.
A shame too, because a particular npc there has a wellspring of dialogue to psychoanalyze Headspace. Nothing that can't be inferred later down the line, or even now to some extent, but it's still interesting to read and think about. Hopefully she'll come across it later, but aside from some quests there's really no incentive to come back here.
@@samthedystopianrat1945 It basically houses an entity whose purpose is the inverse of the castle keeper found within sweethearts' castle. Even more interesting, since they both even kind of share design elements to a small extent. While keeper kind of tries to incentivize Sunny to fall further into delusions with promises (which can't be acted on outside of the other route), the entity in the forest kind of states hard facts in the form of riddles and somewhat speaks directly to Sunny in a manner similar to characters deeper in the subconscious.
✧ “kel don’t say anything” xDD exactly my thoughts, though i said something out loud by accident when i played through that part- i’m really loving your playthrough videos, i’m so excited to see how you react to the later parts of the game!! ✧
Thats actually really interesting 21:00 This game has alot of mechanics linked to the themes of the game. You'll be seeing that alot. Keep an eye with Omori and his abilities in combat YAY FOR ANOTHER DANGARONPA FAN!!!! I feel that we are afraid, not to disappoint, but to give control to others, others to control their emotions, because if we are people pleasing we are basically controling their way of behaving. So by giving them control, we let go that toxic/hard relationship, we make them CHOOSE wether they'll react in a positive or negative manner
About the certainty versus possibility, yes. I used to love geckos until one let itself fall from the ceiling and landed on my head and got tangled in my hair. After that, I sometimes even cried when I saw one. Now I just get nervous when they are places where they could get close to my head.
People pleasing is haunting and strenghtens itself pretty easily like at 1:08:58. It makes one realize they must have something "wrong" in them that irks people when they actually try something because when others do it, they don't get an emotional turmoil in return or at least, as hard. Eventually, it can break someone, shut them away from others or emotionally erupt as others' expectations keep increasing more and more and they self-bury themselves deeper and deeper.
I actually used to be a people pleaser a few years back and I still struggle with it today. It has a bit to do with my background and the friends I had, but I was convinced I was selfish and I needed to be less selfish as a way to prove I wasn't. Because in my mind back then, being selfish meant I myself was a bad person who didn't care about others. Which now I don't believe anymore. And I personally think people need to stop using the word "selfish" as this horrible nasty thing. Because that's just telling people that putting yourself first is a horrible thing when really it's a natural thing because all humans need to put themselves first to survive. And yes being kind to people and helping others is a good thing too and you should do that. But there's this saying that sums it up perfectly. "You can't pour an empty glass" just like how You can't help others if you yourself needs help. So this goes to anyone out there reading this. Don't be afraid to be a little selfish and take time for yourself. If you put yourself first the rest of the world will follow.
Without going into details, being so focused on people pleasing is the reason I need to get a therapist in the first place. Put yourself first once in a while, folks
6:25 Yes that is not the case, in the picture with Sunny's stuffed toys, there are no stuffed bears, and whenever you come up to a bear the bear gets angry. Both of which are probably leading up to Sunny might be scared of bears.
You're definitely right on the money with Hero putting others' feelings before his own. It's an aspect of his character that I like seeing again and again throughout the game; same with the rest of the friend group and their personalities! Also, it's something that I'm sure was worsened by real-life events (i.e. that "trauma" you mentioned, which is pretty much shared by the whole friend group). But you haven't learned much about that, yet. Actually, you talking about people-pleasing and how there are times to be assertive made me think about an episode of Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends, where Wilt (a really nice guy who's similar to Hero in that he can't bring himself to refuse anything from anyone, for fear of upsetting them) finally gets tired of people walking all over him and learns to say "no". It's a pretty big moment, too. As always, it's great hearing your thoughts on the game and its colorful cast of characters! Gets me to do a bit of self-reflecting, too, so that's kinda fun, lol.
I love how you have different pov about everything else that happened on the game It's always interesting to see how other people see something in general
I've had a problem with people-pleasing for a long time. I love that Omori touches on it - I think that media talking about these problems people have really helps understand that it's not just you and that people do really break those bad habits they have.
1:14:00 I have a friend who is a people pleaser. I can agree that it is a bad thing, but I also really admire it. I have pddnos, which makes social interactions very difficult for me, mostly because I have a lot of trouble with keeping someone else's needs in mind. For a very long time (mostly during high school), instead of trying to live with that, I chose to ignore it and become extremely introverted. However, I eventually started trying again, and this is where I first met that friend. I was really afraid that I would mess up something everytime I tried to talk to them because of the social anxiety I developed by ignoring my issues. Things went fine however and soon enough I had what I thought was a good friend, like I have had in the past a couple of times. One day after school we were walking towards the train/bus station, and we were having a nice conversation, although it was quite biased towards my interests as is most of the time. I have grown used to the fact that many people are not particularly interested in the stuff I talk about. I had to take the bus and she took the train, so naturally when we arrived at the gates for the train station I expected her to enter and wait for her train there. But instead, she kept talking with me and waited outside. That had never happened to me before. For real. I have met no one up until then who enjoys talking with me so much that they prefer spending 5 more minutes talking with me rather than just leaving right away. Now, she is probably the best friend I have ever had, and thanks to her I now have more friends than ever before, and no longer prefer staying inside by myself. And even though sometimes her sympathy and generosity make her take too much care of others and too little care of herself, I cannot help but be grateful for everything she has done for me. Very little people would have done the same.
Wait,you already played Danganronpa? Wow,i would love to know your thoughts on complex characters (like Nagito and Kokichi) and how they behave and think
People-pleasers also tend to be vulnerable to those who would use their emotions against them. For instance, someone who threatens self-harm to provoke a reaction. This creates the expectation that, if they don't stick around and try to please them, they'll seriously hurt themselves and it'll be their fault.
Yeah, they totally nailed people-pleasing with Hero. I'm more than a bit of a people-pleaser myself, though being aware of that fact means I'm able to work on it (actually DOING that work is another matter entirely...).
I just realised this episode is an hour long! I always appreaciate long episodes, but you don't have to make them all the time if it's too much work. Keep up the amazing playthrough!
I would think most people prefer longer videos for this game. In 25 minutes it doesn't feel like much progress has been made, and the excitement to see her progress and learn more diminishes a bit. Of course though, I'd hate for her to get burned out!
If you manage to get past a spider-escaping section on the right side of one of the foggy forest areas, you can enter a secret lost forest area. You meet a character called Daddy Longlegs, it reveals more about Sunny's mind and how cracks are starting to form in the happy Headspace,,
Oh I definitely struggle with people-pleasing lol I think for me it’s an anxiety thing; I worry that people will hate me if I don’t do this for them (I mean, they’ve done so much for me!) and I usually can’t think of a way to say no that doesn’t sound rude to me
I remember when i first learned about Black widows And how scared i became of basically everything I would start to doubt The places i would usually sit bc i thought that it could be one hiding in there or even a normal spider be there I am scared of spiders and once i found one on my cap I never used it again and when i tried i would check every part of it Spiders are scary
Well, now I want to see a funny Junko / Sweetheart crossover comic. Ah, people pleasing for me has been a survival mechanism, bc both my mom and stepmom are narcisits, both verbally & emotionally abusive, and the latter (whom I live with) is also physically abusive from time to time. And even with the guide of a therapist that helped me respectfully assert my boundaries, she felt offended by my asking for privacy and respect. In the end, my therapist told me my solution is to move out. If only I had the money... :/
I really love your little therapist side-talks or whatever you wanna call them. They're really enlightening. One of the things it made it reflect on is the fact that I have a bit of a selective people-pleasing tendency. At work, if someone tells me to do something that I really don't think is a good idea or don't want to do, like work unpaid overtime, I'll be quicker to put my foot down. However, I might have a stronger tendency than most to help a stranger in need. When it comes to people I really care about, though... I kinda put myself dead last. And I'm not even sure if that's a bad thing all the time, because it does make me happy to help my friends, and none of them are manipulative enough to make that a problem. On a related note, one game you might check out after your Omori playthough is a game called "Say No More!", it goes a lot into this subject of people pleasing and the need to occasionally put your foot down. It's not a particularly long game, so you could easily do it in an episode or two.
Let's not forget that Headspace is Sunny's dream, which means that he percieve his friends like that. So that means they may or may not be like that for real.
I have always struggled with setting boundaries and putting myself before others (I was going to use the word "selfish" but that would be against the point here lol), so the whole thing was really relatable. Also how you pointed out that it is kinda a way we're trying to "control" other's emotions, I really never thought of it that way, and that is actually a good point tho. Thanks for the talk, it was informative and a good hint for me to start working on addressing my problems
I'm watching your playthrough very late but the entire part of Hero trying to reject Sweetheart reminds me so much of myself. I have a hard time saying no to people and actually letting people know if I don't want to do something. I've been getting a lot better at being more assertive with things though sooo that's nice. I think out of all the characters I understand Hero the most!
So I don't know if you've already filmed past the point where this would be useful, but there's an item you can find in the junkyard to give hero an AOE heal
it always makes me so happy when you upload.. keep going!! Its always so fun hearing your thoughts on the game and its contents, it being a heavy game at times
So Mush is into vore..... Anyway, I never really think about this before but it was really Sunny's fault that incident at the church happened. Kel was willing to wait until the sermon is over but Sunny wasn't. It was also game reasons that we had to get straight into the next part of the story but in-universe, Sunny didn't have time to wait. Not sure why though. Even Kel was shocked by Sunny's actions. Did Sunny really want that photo album away from Aubrey so badly? Idk. The fight was going to happen anyway regardless but disturbing the sermon was unnecessary. Would've been better to have that argument-turned-to-fight when everyone else has left the church (the priest was probably gonna stay there for a while longer). But yeah, Sunny kinda screwed that up a bit.
I had it hard lately and my fears got worse to the point i was too afraid to go outside talk to people and the anxiety talk helped me relax a bit more, I never really had anyone explain to me why I feel a certain way about some things,, I love your content by the way, :’]
Oh wow, I know the show you were talking about in 30:42 but I don't exactly know its title. I heard of it when I read about the serial killer who joined it and almost won and would have potentially murdered the woman. Crazy.
To get the all out attack the gauge has to be up to 10, which could go up to 1 with each hit from the enemy. Thing is, if you use the quote bubbles they use up 3 points, so if you want to get the attack, don't use the quotes.
the King Crawler being made of Sprout Moles is actually referencing the game from reality called something like Sprout Mole Eater, which is basically just Snake. Hence why its body is made of them - it ate them and grew longer
I was GONNA say that talking about the people pleasing topic was gonna be a callout for my brother..... But then I remembered I was a people pleaser too- So... Uh... It's kinda hard.. to set or even ACKNOWLEDGE boundaries because, i throw that all away for the sake of my friends' happiness. Like, I'd bend over backwards, just to let them have what they want, to make them happy. And I _know_ that they don't want me to! At all! They don't want me to people please, but it's really hard when you consider the "facts" which my anxiety tells me! If I don't hang out with them today they WILL be upset and lonely, _despite_ them saying it's fine and that I should focus on my work. So, even if they care about my boundaries by telling me it's okay, I _know_ they'll be feeling that way. Which I DON'T WANT! I don't anyone to feel that way, to be upset, when I know can control it! If I hang out with them instead of my school work or my classes, it'll make them happy! So.... Yeah... I'd say I have a good reason for.... People pleasing....? Even though... EVERYONE says it's not a good thing exactly. I just want to make them happy, y'know? They deserve it, and if they're happy, I'm happy! So it's a win win?
Omocat succeeded in making an extremely obnoxious character. Perhaps too much. Her terrifying grin haunts my nightmares along with Something and the last dreamworld boss.
Let's just rethink about how Hero is only 15 in headspace and Sweetheart who seems to be in the 20 years old just spawn from nowhere and start flirting with him.
1:07:30 in my opinion i dont enjoy the idea of my friends trying to be people pleasers because it makes me feel happier and more comfortable if my friends needs are being met, especially if they're offering me help. ironically i tend to be kind of a people pleaser lmao
Meanwhile, I’m the result of when your parents are overprotective and don’t teach you the social and practical skills people expect you to know as an adult, which has often led to people underestimating and possibly infantilizing me
Fun fact: pay attention to the floating mirrors and you'll notice Omori is the only one out of the group that actually has a reflection as you walk past it. Its purpose is a very subtle reminder that none of the comfort you find when you interact with it is real - there's a small chance for that reminder not to be so subtle when you do.
Isn't the leader of group is the one who reflects?
@@Данилтычкрейзи When Aubrey, Kel, or Hero are leading, they still don’t appear in the mirror before you interact with it.
I see what you did there lol
29:25- “Kel, don’t say anything”
And ACCURATE assessment of Kel as a character.
One of the coolest things about Omori is once you finish the game, replaying it with the knowledge of the ending completely changes your view on the entire gameplay! There are so many clues everywhere.
Also, Omori, Aubrey, Kel, and Basil are all roughly 12 while Hero and Mari are about 15, just so you know!
frrr its one of my favorite things about the game!!
@Richard Wilson In headspace they are all 12, except Hero and Mari. In realspace they are all 16 except hero, who is 19(?)
@Bengal cat Bruno isn't the playthrough already past the part where that's stated? lol
@@iamdino0 some people just watch random parts y'know
@@pyschopath_gaming420 why would they care about the story then
Epic tip:
Sprout Moles have the IQ range between 'Enough to build a humble colony' to 'Batshit feral', given the right conditions
@2:00 This, then, is the pure *GENIUS* of Omocat. Yes, this game is utterly *STUFFED* full of Chekhov's Guns. You're right to question EVERYTHING. Absolutely Everything you see might or might not have significance, leaning a bit more towards the former. The game, especially Headspace, is absolutely stuffed full of allegory and metaphors. Those who pay attention and actually think about what they are seeing and why, will come to realize certain things much sooner than those who are just blindly stumbling through.
Yesssss- there are so many hints and tiny secrets that are just… top notch. Rewatching playthroughs is honestly mindblowing when you see all the foreshadowing-
That‘s just a sign of a good story. The genius of Omori can be found when doing the thing you have described.
chekhov’s armory
I like how you break down Hero's big character flaw.
Being caring, peaceful and harmonious is great! But there is a point where any positive trait has its downsides. Being caring to the point where they don't care for themselves, trying to be peaceful with a person who can't be reasoned with or trying to accommodate a person who is really toxic.
Hero's fear of rejection, criticism or embarrassment is huge. Of course, this makes him a pleasure to be around but it hurts him in the long run.
Hero like me fr fr
I’d say that people pleasing is definitely a big part of Hero’s character!
A large part of the game with Hero as focus shows that he is more often focused on helping others and being there for his friends while ignoring / downplaying his own feelings and hurt.
x: all dreams have a significant.
sunny's dreams: have a picnic with mari and his friends in a freaking dungeon.
SPOILERS!!
I mean, the dreams kind of are that way for a reason- he created a place where nothing happened and Mari was still alive and their friends would go on colorful bright adventures (yay)!!!
Sorry if I'm being obvious, just wanted to share my thoughts
@@lazymay7654 yeah i know but its fun the way who sunny represents the things of the reality in his own world, and is so relatable bc my dreams are like this sometimes
@@whalexxro1354 I know this conversation is a bit old, but I'm pretty sure Sunny dreams about being thrown into the dungeon, cause he's desperately trying to prevent the group/him from finding Basil (and the truth, cause Basil kinda represents that). The measures Omori is taking are getting more and more extreme in the course of the game. At first Basil just disappears, but that's not enough, so the dream is starting to create distractions (helping Captain Spaceboyfriend) and when that isn't enough either, Omori and his friends are literally thrown into jail cause that's a place you're not supposed to escape from (which would mean that they won't find Basil).
We all know what happened when that didn't work either :x
@@stormnightmare4378 Yeah I know!! And is crazy bc u know, Omori it's just the defense mechanism of Sunny's psique, but when everything that he do didn't work he just take the most extreme way to protect Sunny.
9:25 therapist sadistically tortures 12 year old
I am a people pleaser, to the point where I don't like starting relationships because I'm afraid of disappointing them. I'm not sociable and can't engage in conversations or interactions with people I don't know, and with the people I do know, I try not to unload my baggage onto them. I desperately want to connect with someone on a deep level, but I am afraid of disappointing someone I could have made happy with my silence. It's something I've been working on with my therapist but cuz of the covids and it being summer, I can't get out and meet new people, or I just procrastinate. It's why I love OMORI so much, its a game with powerful topic about social anxiety, self-isolation, many other spoilery issues I relate to, and a fear of hurting people we care about.
I have never, NEVER felt so understood by a TH-cam comment before.
NO SPOILER
Have you tried talking with Mari as all the characters yet? Her dialog with Hero is really funny.
i think she already did that on previous video, but just hero though.
what's cooking, good looking? 😎
same with hero in shops, i heard that something happens there
Mari when she talks to hero : simp mode activated
@Castiel👀
@Castiel imagine not simping for hero
“I wish hero at an AOE heal” try exploring otherworld a bit more
The Junkyard to be precise.
What is aoe
@@supermarket. Short for 'area of effect'. Basically means something that targets an area rather than a single target (or the whole party in this case).
@@kaiyoYT do you mean uh.. tea time? you get that in sweetheart’s castle when you get a certain weapon
@Mac Mac ehh i forget so it actually probably is in the junkyard
Just so you know!
It is best to synchronise your entire team to one emotion, then make the enemy an emotion that is weak to the ones you are using.
If you spread your emotions thinly, at least one of your party members is going to be vulnerable to whatever emotion the enemy is using.
Without spoiling anything, there’s a secret section somewhere in the forest. Took me a while to find it actually.
Yeah I was lucky to wander into it by accident on my playthrough, and then when I looked stuff up about it later I realized it is considered a secret part
@@spaghettikat1964 Yeah, There's even huge amounts of ✨ lore ✨ hidden in there :)
I found it immediately because I thought that was the right way to go. And then I met someone with a very interesting name ehe
You must be talking about the BIG STRONG TREE!
I remember a comment in a OST video than was like this: "Sweetheart is a very hateable villain. The first moment I saw her i wanted to kick her to space"
1:03:30 - 1:07:06 ~ Reflections on people pleasing
1:11:42 - 1:14:03 ~ When there's a response to setting boundaries
As a people pleaser, these timestamps tug at my heartstrings. I can't articulate why right now. I'll just comment below this one after work probably.
I thought this part was great overall though! The playthrough is going great so far. Thanks so much for your thorough enjoyment!
GREEN items - Snacks
ORANGE items - Toys
PURPLE items - Equipment/Charms
YELLOW items - Important Items
Blue text usually refers to skills.
Reminder to water Basil's flowers whenever you're in that area. Wouldn't be a bad idea to drop by when you're at a Pluto station.
Also, just some battle strategy advice: I find that giving all your friends the emotion that's strong against the foe's emotion is usually more effective than giving each friend an emotion that boosts one of their skills. Having the emotion advantage against a foe boosts your damage against them (including damage from your skills) while also reducing their damage to you. So for instance, a happy foe will be much less dangerous if all your friends are sad, but angry friends would be in trouble.
I’m genuinely loving these play throughs, looking through someone else’s eyes is genuinely interesting
agreed
Check foe facts aswell, you might hear what the king crawler does to sprout moles
People-pleasing was something I struggled with a lot as a kid. I had very few friends and desperately wanted people to like me, so I thought granting favors again and again without asking for anything in return would have helped. Doing others' work, giving money, fetching and delivering things, being the goalie during P.E., accepting undesirable roles in school plays, etc. It took me way too long to realize the only time my classmates ever talked to me was when they needed something from me. The first time I said "no" to someone was probably the most cathartic thing I'd ever done up to that point.
I've always liked Hero, but seeing him have the same struggles I did made me absolutely adore him. What a phenomenal game.
50:30 I guess you could say he's got an.....
_Appetite of a People Pleaser_
if this is a reference to the song by GHOST, I had it stuck in my head the whole time she was talking about people pleasing.
@@w0rmwood_uwu It is! Cake/Cooking song about people pleasing. I couldn't resist >u
About people pleasing... I consider myself to have been doing it for a long time. When my family asked how i was, i always said the same thing "i'm good", never really speaking about my problems, doubts, and insecurities because of fear of letting them down. Even some times lying about little things so that they would feel proud. Over time it made me feel really lonely and separated from t hem. Hopefully, i'm starting to connect with them and explore myself outside of my inner world.
To do people pleasing for me it was denying myself the chance to make mistakes, i made them proud with my achievements and responsibility, but i never grew accustomed to err, so now i have a really hard time not putting high expectations on myself, and feel like i always have to do something useful for someone and make sure that it is of the highest quality.
Sorry for venting, but sharing my experience could help people feel more comfortable sharing their stories too, and i'm always curious how other people experience this things that i have been feeling for a long time. Perhaps i could learn a little, or just feel more understood.
It's nice but at the same time kinda sad to see someone with the same struggle as oneself, makes it feel like there can be an underdtanding of it
When people ask me how I'm doing, I try to break the social norm of just saying I'm good. Because at least half the time I'm not well, and if you're going to ask I won't lie to you
I just realized that i migh be a people pleaser too
When I was in residential my behavioral specialist made me do a ton of exposures. I also had people pleasing as one of my bans (I had to mark a check in my ban book every time I noticed myself doing it).
Being assertive is hard and it can be pretty scary, we don’t want to make people sad or angry. Still, it’s not our job/responsibility to make sure _everyone_ is happy _all the time._ Like you said, we are not in control of others emotions.
It’s important to look out for ourselves. “Do I feel safe?”, “Is this person trustworthy?”, “Am sacrificing what I care about by saying yes?”.
On people pleasing, from a person who'd do it extensively on high school period:
Although it is true that I began doing it to attempt preventing people close to me from feeling upset/sad or to comfort them, it'd quickly spiral out of control in my head where I'd think that now that I've been acting in a specific way, stopping being a yes-man for these people would break the perception of me that I thought I gave those people, and so make them think I was being two-faced or that I simply didn't care anymore/cared less about them. And so I'd continue to do it out of an unfounded belief that people would be turned away from me because I wasn't "being nice anymore" or that I'd hurt people going through difficult times by stopping being a "comfort zone" for them (which in retrospect, this mindset probably did much more damage than actually help them).
I've since grew out of this, but I think it's important to keep in mind that this mindset will not only create a self-perpetuating spiral (You keep acting a certain way because you think people are used to you acting this way, so you don't want to disappoint them. But that only lets the situation escalate further, and the impact of when you _actually_ decide/is forced to stop is muuuch worse than what it would've been at first, if at all), but bending yourself backwards to do the biddings of a friend in a precarious emotional state can easily slip into toxic relationships and create a lot of dependency that _will_ hurt them once you have to stop acting that way (and yes, it will eventually happen).
You've missed an entire area in the Pyrefly Forest. You can go to the right on the screen before the long wooden bridge which leads to the king crawler fight and sprout mole village (the one at around 5-10 minutes into the video) It's a bit hidden but you can walk between the trees and reach the right side of the screen, leading to another location.
A shame too, because a particular npc there has a wellspring of dialogue to psychoanalyze Headspace. Nothing that can't be inferred later down the line, or even now to some extent, but it's still interesting to read and think about. Hopefully she'll come across it later, but aside from some quests there's really no incentive to come back here.
I have played the game three times and I don't think I know this area-
@@samthedystopianrat1945 it's easy to miss. I didn't see it either but it's got some pretty interesting lore drops
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It basically houses an entity whose purpose is the inverse of the castle keeper found within sweethearts' castle. Even more interesting, since they both even kind of share design elements to a small extent.
While keeper kind of tries to incentivize Sunny to fall further into delusions with promises (which can't be acted on outside of the other route), the entity in the forest kind of states hard facts in the form of riddles and somewhat speaks directly to Sunny in a manner similar to characters deeper in the subconscious.
✧ “kel don’t say anything” xDD exactly my thoughts, though i said something out loud by accident when i played through that part-
i’m really loving your playthrough videos, i’m so excited to see how you react to the later parts of the game!! ✧
As a peoplepleaser myself, this video was really good!
You being supportive of Hero was so awesome too!
Thats actually really interesting 21:00
This game has alot of mechanics linked to the themes of the game. You'll be seeing that alot. Keep an eye with Omori and his abilities in combat
YAY FOR ANOTHER DANGARONPA FAN!!!!
I feel that we are afraid, not to disappoint, but to give control to others, others to control their emotions, because if we are people pleasing we are basically controling their way of behaving. So by giving them control, we let go that toxic/hard relationship, we make them CHOOSE wether they'll react in a positive or negative manner
About the certainty versus possibility, yes. I used to love geckos until one let itself fall from the ceiling and landed on my head and got tangled in my hair. After that, I sometimes even cried when I saw one. Now I just get nervous when they are places where they could get close to my head.
People pleasing is haunting and strenghtens itself pretty easily like at 1:08:58. It makes one realize they must have something "wrong" in them that irks people when they actually try something because when others do it, they don't get an emotional turmoil in return or at least, as hard.
Eventually, it can break someone, shut them away from others or emotionally erupt as others' expectations keep increasing more and more and they self-bury themselves deeper and deeper.
I actually used to be a people pleaser a few years back and I still struggle with it today.
It has a bit to do with my background and the friends I had, but I was convinced I was selfish and I needed to be less selfish as a way to prove I wasn't. Because in my mind back then, being selfish meant I myself was a bad person who didn't care about others.
Which now I don't believe anymore. And I personally think people need to stop using the word "selfish" as this horrible nasty thing. Because that's just telling people that putting yourself first is a horrible thing when really it's a natural thing because all humans need to put themselves first to survive.
And yes being kind to people and helping others is a good thing too and you should do that. But there's this saying that sums it up perfectly. "You can't pour an empty glass" just like how You can't help others if you yourself needs help.
So this goes to anyone out there reading this. Don't be afraid to be a little selfish and take time for yourself. If you put yourself first the rest of the world will follow.
Without going into details, being so focused on people pleasing is the reason I need to get a therapist in the first place. Put yourself first once in a while, folks
6:25 Yes that is not the case, in the picture with Sunny's stuffed toys, there are no stuffed bears, and whenever you come up to a bear the bear gets angry. Both of which are probably leading up to Sunny might be scared of bears.
15:02 Well Spiders are everywhere here in Australia, it's not a matter of "IF" a Spider will bite you, but when
You're definitely right on the money with Hero putting others' feelings before his own. It's an aspect of his character that I like seeing again and again throughout the game; same with the rest of the friend group and their personalities! Also, it's something that I'm sure was worsened by real-life events (i.e. that "trauma" you mentioned, which is pretty much shared by the whole friend group). But you haven't learned much about that, yet.
Actually, you talking about people-pleasing and how there are times to be assertive made me think about an episode of Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends, where Wilt (a really nice guy who's similar to Hero in that he can't bring himself to refuse anything from anyone, for fear of upsetting them) finally gets tired of people walking all over him and learns to say "no". It's a pretty big moment, too.
As always, it's great hearing your thoughts on the game and its colorful cast of characters! Gets me to do a bit of self-reflecting, too, so that's kinda fun, lol.
I love how you have different pov about everything else that happened on the game
It's always interesting to see how other people see something in general
I've had a problem with people-pleasing for a long time. I love that Omori touches on it - I think that media talking about these problems people have really helps understand that it's not just you and that people do really break those bad habits they have.
I always watch these episodes while i draw its so peaceful
1:14:00 I have a friend who is a people pleaser. I can agree that it is a bad thing, but I also really admire it.
I have pddnos, which makes social interactions very difficult for me, mostly because I have a lot of trouble with keeping someone else's needs in mind. For a very long time (mostly during high school), instead of trying to live with that, I chose to ignore it and become extremely introverted.
However, I eventually started trying again, and this is where I first met that friend. I was really afraid that I would mess up something everytime I tried to talk to them because of the social anxiety I developed by ignoring my issues. Things went fine however and soon enough I had what I thought was a good friend, like I have had in the past a couple of times.
One day after school we were walking towards the train/bus station, and we were having a nice conversation, although it was quite biased towards my interests as is most of the time. I have grown used to the fact that many people are not particularly interested in the stuff I talk about. I had to take the bus and she took the train, so naturally when we arrived at the gates for the train station I expected her to enter and wait for her train there. But instead, she kept talking with me and waited outside.
That had never happened to me before. For real. I have met no one up until then who enjoys talking with me so much that they prefer spending 5 more minutes talking with me rather than just leaving right away.
Now, she is probably the best friend I have ever had, and thanks to her I now have more friends than ever before, and no longer prefer staying inside by myself. And even though sometimes her sympathy and generosity make her take too much care of others and too little care of herself, I cannot help but be grateful for everything she has done for me. Very little people would have done the same.
Wait,you already played Danganronpa? Wow,i would love to know your thoughts on complex characters (like Nagito and Kokichi) and how they behave and think
I literally gasped when she mentioned Junko-
People-pleasers also tend to be vulnerable to those who would use their emotions against them. For instance, someone who threatens self-harm to provoke a reaction. This creates the expectation that, if they don't stick around and try to please them, they'll seriously hurt themselves and it'll be their fault.
Yeah, they totally nailed people-pleasing with Hero. I'm more than a bit of a people-pleaser myself, though being aware of that fact means I'm able to work on it (actually DOING that work is another matter entirely...).
I just realised this episode is an hour long! I always appreaciate long episodes, but you don't have to make them all the time if it's too much work. Keep up the amazing playthrough!
I would think most people prefer longer videos for this game. In 25 minutes it doesn't feel like much progress has been made, and the excitement to see her progress and learn more diminishes a bit.
Of course though, I'd hate for her to get burned out!
If you manage to get past a spider-escaping section on the right side of one of the foggy forest areas, you can enter a secret lost forest area. You meet a character called Daddy Longlegs, it reveals more about Sunny's mind and how cracks are starting to form in the happy Headspace,,
here's a little tip. if you tag hero while buying stuff from the mailbox, it will give you discounts!
Oh I definitely struggle with people-pleasing lol
I think for me it’s an anxiety thing; I worry that people will hate me if I don’t do this for them (I mean, they’ve done so much for me!) and I usually can’t think of a way to say no that doesn’t sound rude to me
Im honestly loving this playthrough
venti pfp, bingus username, omori video. perfection
@@thatonekid6677 honestly the nicest thing ive heard i love this community
I'm pretty sure the game show you're thinking of is literally just called The Dating Game.
I’m not sure if she ever gets to the area that explains it, so for anyone wondering, the moles were made for sweet heart hence their love for her
I remember when i first learned about Black widows
And how scared i became of basically everything
I would start to doubt The places i would usually sit bc i thought that it could be one hiding in there or even a normal spider be there
I am scared of spiders and once i found one on my cap
I never used it again and when i tried i would check every part of it
Spiders are scary
Well, now I want to see a funny Junko / Sweetheart crossover comic.
Ah, people pleasing for me has been a survival mechanism, bc both my mom and stepmom are narcisits, both verbally & emotionally abusive, and the latter (whom I live with) is also physically abusive from time to time.
And even with the guide of a therapist that helped me respectfully assert my boundaries, she felt offended by my asking for privacy and respect. In the end, my therapist told me my solution is to move out. If only I had the money... :/
37:08 "Is that a wood shaped door there?" 🤣 I died. Genuinely.
One hour long? Aw, are you spoiling us?
I really love your little therapist side-talks or whatever you wanna call them. They're really enlightening.
One of the things it made it reflect on is the fact that I have a bit of a selective people-pleasing tendency. At work, if someone tells me to do something that I really don't think is a good idea or don't want to do, like work unpaid overtime, I'll be quicker to put my foot down. However, I might have a stronger tendency than most to help a stranger in need. When it comes to people I really care about, though... I kinda put myself dead last. And I'm not even sure if that's a bad thing all the time, because it does make me happy to help my friends, and none of them are manipulative enough to make that a problem.
On a related note, one game you might check out after your Omori playthough is a game called "Say No More!", it goes a lot into this subject of people pleasing and the need to occasionally put your foot down. It's not a particularly long game, so you could easily do it in an episode or two.
Let's not forget that Headspace is Sunny's dream, which means that he percieve his friends like that. So that means they may or may not be like that for real.
I have always struggled with setting boundaries and putting myself before others (I was going to use the word "selfish" but that would be against the point here lol), so the whole thing was really relatable. Also how you pointed out that it is kinda a way we're trying to "control" other's emotions, I really never thought of it that way, and that is actually a good point tho.
Thanks for the talk, it was informative and a good hint for me to start working on addressing my problems
I'm watching your playthrough very late but the entire part of Hero trying to reject Sweetheart reminds me so much of myself. I have a hard time saying no to people and actually letting people know if I don't want to do something. I've been getting a lot better at being more assertive with things though sooo that's nice. I think out of all the characters I understand Hero the most!
So I don't know if you've already filmed past the point where this would be useful, but there's an item you can find in the junkyard to give hero an AOE heal
Tbf all that grinding at Orange Oasis was worth it
it always makes me so happy when you upload..
keep going!! Its always so fun hearing your thoughts on the game and its contents, it being a heavy game at times
OMORIS SMILE HELP-
Have you seen the Manic emotion yet?
(It’s literally one of the worst things in Omori)
Some day, a friend is going to reach into Omori’s pockets and accidentally pull out his knife I feel... that would not end well
the things you said about people pleasing here were so impactful. thank you for this!! I love your videos.
so excited for another long upload!! pls keep it up, this playthrough is really entertaining and informative :))
legit caught me off guard when you mentioned junko
also, i would love to listen to you analyze some of the danganronpa characters!
Cutting down that Christmas tree will be very damaging to that box moles mental health.
2:41 oh i forgot she had that... shhhh.... nobody tell aubrey.....
So Mush is into vore.....
Anyway, I never really think about this before but it was really Sunny's fault that incident at the church happened. Kel was willing to wait until the sermon is over but Sunny wasn't. It was also game reasons that we had to get straight into the next part of the story but in-universe, Sunny didn't have time to wait. Not sure why though. Even Kel was shocked by Sunny's actions. Did Sunny really want that photo album away from Aubrey so badly? Idk. The fight was going to happen anyway regardless but disturbing the sermon was unnecessary. Would've been better to have that argument-turned-to-fight when everyone else has left the church (the priest was probably gonna stay there for a while longer). But yeah, Sunny kinda screwed that up a bit.
Imho spring is too humid and all the plants attract a ton of bugs. Fall is the pinnacle of weather.
“I this fans or a cult”
Yes
KNowing you have played danganronpa makes my day, love that game so much- also yes sweetheart just emits junko vibes
Hero is immaculate to me ok!! Sorry, he's just best boy to me and must be protected at all costs
Great video! I loved the commentary
I had it hard lately and my fears got worse to the point i was too afraid to go outside talk to people and the anxiety talk helped me relax a bit more, I never really had anyone explain to me why I feel a certain way about some things,, I love your content by the way, :’]
Oh wow, I know the show you were talking about in 30:42 but I don't exactly know its title. I heard of it when I read about the serial killer who joined it and almost won and would have potentially murdered the woman. Crazy.
To get the all out attack the gauge has to be up to 10, which could go up to 1 with each hit from the enemy. Thing is, if you use the quote bubbles they use up 3 points, so if you want to get the attack, don't use the quotes.
27:10 The word you're looking for is killed
"Like Junko from Danganronpa"
Me over here like: how did you know I just started playing it for the first time?
You Missed a secret at the spider forest that helps you understand the history!
the King Crawler being made of Sprout Moles is actually referencing the game from reality called something like Sprout Mole Eater, which is basically just Snake. Hence why its body is made of them - it ate them and grew longer
I look forward to every upload! :3
"What if something happens horrible in the future??"
*Hears loud thunderstorm*
I was GONNA say that talking about the people pleasing topic was gonna be a callout for my brother..... But then I remembered I was a people pleaser too- So... Uh... It's kinda hard.. to set or even ACKNOWLEDGE boundaries because, i throw that all away for the sake of my friends' happiness. Like, I'd bend over backwards, just to let them have what they want, to make them happy.
And I _know_ that they don't want me to! At all! They don't want me to people please, but it's really hard when you consider the "facts" which my anxiety tells me! If I don't hang out with them today they WILL be upset and lonely, _despite_ them saying it's fine and that I should focus on my work. So, even if they care about my boundaries by telling me it's okay, I _know_ they'll be feeling that way. Which I DON'T WANT! I don't anyone to feel that way, to be upset, when I know can control it! If I hang out with them instead of my school work or my classes, it'll make them happy!
So.... Yeah... I'd say I have a good reason for.... People pleasing....? Even though... EVERYONE says it's not a good thing exactly. I just want to make them happy, y'know? They deserve it, and if they're happy, I'm happy! So it's a win win?
Omocat succeeded in making an extremely obnoxious character. Perhaps too much.
Her terrifying grin haunts my nightmares along with Something and the last dreamworld boss.
SPOILERS
the last dreamworld boss as in humphrey? theres different routes s
Sweetheart _would_ haunt me....
....if I wasn't already being haunted by the far FAR more obnoxious Detective Furudo Erika
@@krinxq5986 Yeah, I meant them. I didnt know how else to say their name without spoiling
Sweetheart even laughs in her overworld theme!
her obnoxious laugh haunts my dreams
There's a weapon for Hero in the Junkyard that will give him a skill that heals everyone!
You went to orange oasis super early, a bit of grinding might help!
Let's just rethink about how Hero is only 15 in headspace and Sweetheart who seems to be in the 20 years old just spawn from nowhere and start flirting with him.
I can’t wait til you fight sweetheart! She has the best boss music in the game.
1:07:30 in my opinion i dont enjoy the idea of my friends trying to be people pleasers because it makes me feel happier and more comfortable if my friends needs are being met, especially if they're offering me help. ironically i tend to be kind of a people pleaser lmao
Its so fun to see ur reactions. A tip is to learn emotions chart, happy beats angry, angry beats sad and sad beats happy.
Try eating pickles as KEL! also try changing to HERO when buying items
dang she missed the secret path on the right at 4:33
I wonder if Hero's people-pleaser tendencies are tied to the story Kel tells us in the graveyard
i do love this game so much. Thanks for playing it.
Meanwhile, I’m the result of when your parents are overprotective and don’t teach you the social and practical skills people expect you to know as an adult, which has often led to people underestimating and possibly infantilizing me
I LOVE WATCHING HER PLAY THIS GAME
to a mushroom named mush she said is this a drug thing or and an ad with happy go lucky music came on and I laughed
WAOOO nice episodeee! So excited for this series i'm watching it all >w