I don't remember the exact name of the legislation but the US in the late 1800s basically divided up remaining native american lands into "homesteads" to encourage them to farm and "civilize". They basically gave them shitty land and no tools or info on how to farm (most great plains natives relied on buffalo hunting and gathering because the great plains were difficult to farm without steel equipment and it was difficult to farm sustainably) which resulted in famine. Miners and other settlers often squatted illegally on native land or pressured natives into selling it. Natives " not taking full advantage of land" is a fucking myth, settlers and government made it purposefully impossible for natives to live off their land so that they could take it for themselves.
This argument is also used here in Brazil. But "using land productively" is just used as code for "use it to make profit". So that natives who are, in fact, actively using the land to be self-sufficient and develop it to grow their tribes are not considered "productive" because someone rich could be making more money with that land. And the punchline is that rich brazilian land owners usually make money off land by speculating on it financially instead of actually working the land, because they have way too much land to work it all. So in effect natives are driven from land they own and are productive in (and by driven it usually means "wiped out by armed mercenaries", yes, in the 21st century). And rich land owners buy these lands to clear it of all natural ecosystems in order to leave it empty and making the numbers go high.
ok, trying it without the profanity this time so the CENSORS don't get me. Oh my god the gilded kants rock butt. listen to the song "acid at the zoo." give yourselves a treat today
Thanks a million Joel. You're pretty dang rockin yourself - Really appreciate both of you mentioning us and all the people coming over for a hang and listen
Luv ya guy, also I know this is out of left field, but for some punk rock suggestions, specifically hardcore, go check out Armors new album: Some Kind of War. Also, loved your content on the twitter and empathy, thank you for taking a stand against mindless support of pretend leftism and what toxic masculinity can look like for the left. PUNKS NOT DEAD BOIS
Snatch and throw, if they try to get physical you can choose to retaliate or not, if you do you're both in equal trouble, if you don't they will get arrested for assaulting you (if the cops do their job, that is) because it is not legal to commit A&B because someone broke something you own. You might get in trouble for destruction of property, which is many degrees less serious than assault so it's still a win
@@TheWonkster which is extremely fucked up. This is the legal structure that protects thieves. Disproportionate retaliation is the best deterrent to crime. If bikes were filled with C4 then drivers would stop running them over.
I love when people say "a Native American" as if that is a singular culture with a defined code of dress and not a large number of cultures across two continents with vastly different clothing, customs, culture, and languages. And by love, I mean that I die a little inside every time.
The joke he makes is that he's Woody from Toy Story, alternatively he says he is the uncle of Woody who of course is named Tom at one point. Draw your own conclusions from the latter.
I genuinely laughed at the guy going "What is this? That's disgusting" at Caitlin in her weird native american costume that she probably bought for 30 bucks at party city.
Gun girl always oozes the energy you'd expect from like... a relative who's convinced that they're "the cool one" and that they're being fun and quirky but really are just mildly annoying and uncomfortable to be around at holidays
"Explain cultural appropriation to me. Hey, don't touch my microphone. Why? Well because it's not yours, you can't just take it because you like it. What do you mean 'irony'?"
A woman goes to the doctor and says "doctor, the current climate of fear is making me depressed, what should I do?" The doctor replies "Easy, just watch this great video by Thought Slime dunking on Kaitlin Bennett!" The woman bursts into tears and says "but doctor, I am Kaitlin Bennett!"
@@stm7810 I mean, to be fair, liberty hangout are actually just nazis. They use the libertarian/ancap thing because statistically, those are the most likely to be converted
Defending fuedalism by calling it the epitome of "property rights" reminded me of Southern states in the 1800's arguing for slavery because of "states' rights".
That's because it's basically the same argument. Remember that the conservative mindset, at it's core, is primarly hierarchically based. The mechanism by which that hierarchy is built, be it divine right, tenants of racial superiority, religious dogma, or economic/monetary domination, isn't really that important. How it is maintained, either through "democratic" election or brutal authoritarianism is equally unimportant. There are people on the top and there are people on the bottom. So long as you have someone below you, for whatever reason, "proper order" is maintained and things are "as they should be" regardless as to who's actually at the top. . Thus "property rights" or "states rights" or "sovereign citizenship" or "ultra nationalism" or whatever you want to call it becomes an attractive and useful mechanism. It helps re-enforce that someone, somewhere, has total domain over their own little patch where order (or rather one's own self serving idea of order) can be built and maintained in a kind of neo-feudal fashion. Those from the "outside" who oppose what you are doing on your patch, say like practicing slavery, segregation, disenfranchisement of minority populations, wanton environmental destruction, etc are therefor "infringing on your freedom" who need to be resisted while those "inside" your patch who oppose your bad leadership and seek to change things are "troublemakers," "subversives," and "traitors." who need to be rooted out, put down, and destroyed. . This is why the whole "states rights" argument in all its iterations used by conservatives, no matter what the flavor, ultimately fall apart in application. To use but one noteworthy example they'll bang on and on about how "the state" has the right to decide for itself whether it will legally recognize or accept gay marriage. But when that same state decides, legally and by majority to decriminalize and legalize gay marriage they shift gears and decry gay marriage from another angle. To use another you'll often hear them rail against eminent domain and government land seizure when it's their land in question. But if it involves someone else's land being taken to build a useful wall because they think it will "keep out illegals" or build a pipeline or strip mine an area that's "protecting our boarders "and "the march of progress" . To wit, "state's rights" or "property rights" or whatever ultimately has nothing to with actual rights. It's the smokescreen used to enforce a particular form of control and authority over a specific location and resist change or growth that challenges that control or authority.
Kaitlin "poopoo" Bennet knows the costume is offensive because she isn't asking these questions on a Native American Reservation. There is no possible way she thinks she's morally correct.
It would have been hilarious if she tried to go to a regeneration dressed like that.... and then a native American dressed like a cowboy comes up and throws her own shit back at her.
The biggest problem I have with Libertarians is that they reject the notion of the common. If someone developed a system to extract all the oxygen from the atmosphere and then sell it to consumers like a utility, the Libertarians would not only dutifully pay for the privilege of breathing, they would also applaud the technology as a great step forward in civilization.
@@stm7810 Not that it matters but the movie that was the basis of my comment was Total Recall, (1990). Breathable oxygen was produced by the corporation that owned the Martian mining colony. It was a commodity and everything that Mr Cohaagen did with oxygen to control the inhabitants conformed with the ethics derived from the libertarian theory of property rights.
Amatuer! You should set up a sun-shade at the Earth-Sun L1 point and charge copious fees to those who want light and arbitrarily deny it for any price to those who you disagree with. The problem with trying to corner the oxygen market is having to control all photosynthesis. You've got to buy up all the plants and phytoplankton. And patent electrolysis of water... cuz some putz it going to try to undercut you with water-derived oxygen.
@@CarFreeSegnitz Both plans are too technologically elaborate, like some villainous scheme from a comic book. The usual way these things work is not by privatizing, monopolizing, and monetizing the common, but instead by poisoning the common and charging for products that were free before, but now need to be purified.
"I haven't pooped my pants since I was... how old was I... 2?" has the same energy as "I pledge not to dump 4.7 million gallons of crude oil into the gulf of mexico"
The irony of asking the leading question "Is this costume offensive" while wearing the costume is huge. She is only wearing it BECAUSE she knows it's offensive. She's asking people to justify why it's bad when she knows it's bad.
It'd be a lot funnier if they played it straight and had some completely unrelated and uncontroversial things to talk about when they approach people. Forcing the snowflakes to escalate the situation unprovoked thus showing how utterly fragile they are.
Her argument about the indigenous costume is like saying, if I steal twenty dollars from you, then you can’t get mad, because some people steal millions of dollars from each other
@@Aconitum_napellus They used to use the term "Autarkism" but that sounded goofy, so they stole a better word. This "philosophy" has only really existed since the post WWII, late 1940s - though there were people like Lysander Spooner in the 19th century that are considered "Libertarian" forebears. When they were alive, they were considered cranks.
One nice part of Ancaps stealing "Libertarian" is that, ever since I started IDing as a "Libertarian Socialist," a number of alt-right reactionaries I know have listened to me, considered my stance, and even changed their worldview. It seems to help 'em understand that we see the same systemic problems... we just have different ideas about what's causing 'em.
@@jorgeamadosoriaramirez8953 And it is completely dumb and irrelevant, because capitalism didn't collapse. Thus, you will not find even an example from which you can hyperbolize.
@@endlesssolitaire731 Americans saying that this pandemic is a Bernie presidency test run, despite the fact that it's literally happening under Trump, the current president.
Capitalism collapses regularly. It’s called a “recession” or “depression.” For some reason, we keep reviving it every time instead of replacing it with something else that won’t have to be resuscitated every decade or two.
CL: "Wages have been depressed by globalization!" me: yeah, that's definitely a factor, jobs get sent to countries where companies don't have to pay their workers as much CL: "And it's gonna get even worse because of immigration!" me: ... so actually your problem is just that nonwhite people are part of our economy
i like how they pretend that having a subclass of human automatons won't fucking blow up in their face like it did back then. they're just aching for the days where 5cents a day was a good salary in a field dominated by slave labor, aren't they?
"oh, we'll just kill them all!" you say, Nazily. and then you become the subhuman labor force those above you want to kill off! Because the corporations make the decisions, peon; not you.
Also not even that true since even if jobs weren't sent to those countries, wages wouldn't increase because employers would already think those wages are high and would find another way to avoid wage increase.
The immigration thing and lots of similar issues has been debunked by Bastiat centuries ago. A lot of conservatives will push that kind of crap then turn around and claim to be free market. Automation is a repeat of the same issue. As the aforementioned frenchman states, most of these fallacies come down to thinking productivity can be a bad thing.
I wasn't prepared for that Canadian boomer to throw up the "great replacement" card. Then again, I have some Indigenous friends from Canada talk about how messed up the racism is up there, even compared to the States. I guess right-wing kooks come in all sorts of flavors.😰
It really depends on the province and area, there is a _lot_of ethnic tension in Winnipeg for instance (not just between Canadian and First Nations communities, but also between different indigenous bands and French and English speaking neighborhoods. Then theres the Métis, which are a whole other conversation.) I would argue that the context of prejudice is very different than in the U.S, there are extremist groups within indigenous society that are very loud. These groups do a great disservice to our First Nations, they perpetuate the stereotype of entitlement. This riles up the Canadian working class for two reasons; 1. Our culture is one of relative social responsibility, it is every Canadian's social duty to contribute to programs that support us all. We are not European in our social programs, they aren't free, but they are widely and easily accessible and tax subsidy keeps the prices down. It works to our mutual benefit. A demand that is percived to be only beneficial to a specific group beyond reason makes us very hostile because it violates the spirit of this social responsibility. 2. Although we are less individualistic than Americans, for many Canadians (particularly in the western provinces) land title is a huge deal (like, it's hard to overemphasize how much we care about it.) Be it erroneous or not, there is often a sense animosity between reserves and the communities that surround them.
@@oliviawilliams6204 Racism and idioties are everywhere. All nations, and all ideologies what utter rubbish, whataboutism without specifics , is ESPECIALLY pathetic.
@@jamestcatcato7132 I’m sorry but it’s just true, the only thing distributed equally in everything is the amount of morons. Did not think that was controversial to say
When did people freely choose socialism? Generally Marxist zealots grabbed political power with weapons and brutally crushed any opposition (even with toxic gas or burning hostages, like during Russian civil war). National socialists came to power because of a political intrigues, so even this example doesn't work.
@@endlesssolitaire731 A *lot* of the time. Socialist movements usually had worse material support than the alternatives, since capitalists had been building up wealth for centuries. The only way socialist movements had to succeed was through popular support. Cuba, Russia, China, Vietnam etc. were all turned socialist by the will of the people.
@@A_B_1917 The Bolsheviks received only about 17% on the elections in 1917, so no. You are just wrong. They took political power by extreme violence. The only popular support they had was the support of deserters who didn't want to be sent to the front lines. And these poor misguided soldiers received the same front lines, but at their homes. Same with China. Mao and Castro (the last one become a "socialist" just to receive support from USSR though) took political power by violence. About Vietnam I don't know much enough, but from what I know, Communists used nationalistic uprising against Catholic francophone elites to gain political power.
I recently had a wide ranging political discussion with a libertarian. And I was impressed about just how inconsistent his ideas where. A particular highlight was his claim that the government is useless and corporations should run everything. But also the government should regulate the corporations to stop them being evil.
@@ThoughtSlime we never quite got to that point. Though I kinda got the impression that this guy called himself a libertarian to put some distance between him and modern American conservatism. As he told me that he once worked on Mitt Romney's presidential campaign, but voted against trump.
Hmm. I just ran into one that was more of an ancap. I pointed out that there would be nothing to stop the rich from hiring mercenaries, then seizing both territory and serfs. This is why I don't think anarcho-capitalism would work. Capitalism itself functions as an oppressive system, IMO.
@Albert Whisker Each mercenary would have incentive to listen to the rich guy in the form of all the other mercenaries hired by the rich guy. Unless the mercenaries unionized or something, but then the rich guy could just hire some mercenaries to act as strikebreakers and...wait a second...
Isn´t that the same woman who wanted to get people riled up about putting pads into men´s bathrooms in a college and failed in pretty much the same way she did in this one?
I saw that video and I ADORE the trans guy who was like “yeah I’m not mad, I use the menstrual products all the time” then walked off, king shit right there
When faced with an unpleasant outbreak of libertarianism (of the pernicious North American Rothbard variety), it is usually best treated with the careful application of Proudhon and a little Henry George. However, if symptoms persist, the infected is unfortunately either cretinously stupid, or deeply sociopathic, both of which are sadly quite incurable. Glad to hear you made it out OK :-)
@@chillingate6817 I dunno about them, but I had ended up a libertarian in high school. I was raised with some level of skepticism towards statism or imperialism of a vague, ill defined variety, and libertarianism, when I was young and impressionable, managed to market itself to me as being that. I think what got me out of there was realizing at the time that I didn't actually know nearly as much as I thought I did about sociology, economics, or politics, plus I didn't have an answer to the question of how to prevent hydraulic empires from forming.
If IQ wasn't a number that represents a value based arbitrary characteristics that have little to no basis on real world functioning but is nonetheless often used to defend and uphold social hierarchy I'd say I feel like I lose IQ points when hearing libertarians speak.
@ The difference between the IQ of the average African and European, for example, can be almost entirely explained by socio-economic factors. This is why when you contrast different races of people on similar socio-economic backgrounds there's little to no difference. That isn't to say that genetics don't play a role in determaning IQ; it does, but the differences between races are not prounced enough to make any tangible difference on aggregate.
You had me until you had to randomly make fun of Kent, Ohio as "the most boring part of Ohio" without any sort of objective argument. I submit May 4 1970, and DEVO as counter arguments for starters. I'd argue that Lima, Ohio is way more boring. That's right, Lima. I said it.
I feel like arguing what part of Ohio is like looking at a glass filled halfway, it could be half full, could be half empty, does it matter how full the glass is if its filled with piss? Its ohio. ITS OHIO.
I know a “libertarian” who thinks that the role of government is to stop criminals. I can get behind that, violent crime is bad. However, when I asked what he thought of drug users being punished, he said it’s good because they’re criminals. I asked why they’re criminals and he said it’s because drugs are bad.
I mean, that seems to be every conservative political platform. Says you're for X, actually be for Y. The main thing that keeps me left no matter what is the integrity in the people. You should mean what you say and act accordingly. Acting the opposite of what you believe and pretending you're not is the #1 most triggering thing for me, in all aspects of life.
i've seen a lot of people say that they've been converted from being alt right to being a liberal before, but never an ancap to a leftist (i'm assuming). how did you pull that off?
Same. For the confused, a Right Libertarian/ AnCap with the potential to go Left is basically a hermit with a fancy label, or a pacifist who has yet to see the inherent violence of Capitalism.
Some people get into AnCap because they like the anti-authority message and know about state sanctioned evil, but fall out with it when it fails to acknowledge the tyranny and power imbalance of private individuals under capitalism. I remember being really into Ron Paul in 2008 because he was anti-war, anti-bailouts, anti-Drug War, etc. and tried libertarianism for awhile, but the internal contradictions and bad online arguments pushed me to the left.
I am no fan of Elizabeth Warren but I want to defend her just a little bit when it came to how she screwed up thinking she was Cherokee. I live in the United States and most people here genuinely believe they have Native American blood because their parents told them this and their parents believe it because their grandparents told them ect...No one is really sure where the myth started, who started it, or why, but some theorize it's something white people started saying generations ago in order to justify their colonization of the land. "I'm part Native so I belong here too." There are a lot of white folks who do in fact have Native blood but it's hard to say how many because most generations were just raised to believe they had some without questioning it. I'll bet that's why Elizabeth Warren believed she was part Cherokee. Plus Cherokee specifically is a very popular tribe for white people to claim ancestry from because they were considered a "civilized tribe". My mom raised me to believe I was part Cherokee too until we recently found out there is no known Native Ancestry on her side. Contrast that with my dad's side where he had to do quite a bit of digging to find out he was part Native. His family had proof of the ancestry but were so ashamed of it they actively tried to cover it up. Then of course you also have the families who are part Native but lied about the specific tribe to switch it to "Cherokee" because it sounds better, but the point is most whites were totally unaware of this until recently with all the DNA testing and ancestry websites out there which allow you to actively search historical records about your great great grandparents.
Princess Euphemia100 I grew up being told I’m a substantial amount Cherokee. In my twenties I stopped buying into it. Just got my results back 2 months ago: British and Danish. 99.6% European .4% unknown. You said everything I wanted to say and said I better than I would have.
The difference between Johnny Depp saying he is 1/16 Cherokee Princess and Warren is that she put that on her college application form to try to take advantage of minority status.
Edit: I meant to say that I agree with your post. Regardless of how I agree with your post I have to say that US Americans make me feel weird about knowing nothing about my heritage. I am from Switzerland (and have lived here all my life) and I have no idea where my ancestors - if you even wanna use that term when talking about your grandparents - come from. I know my grandmother was born in Egypt but I never heard anything about her being part Egyptian and I think I remember a child of hers telling me that she had two Swiss parents who just happened to live in Egypt for some time. My grandmother was born in August of 1918 and at one point I looked up if her being born in Egypt could have to do with the construction of the Suez Canal but it seems that that doesn't make sense date-wise. But maybe I messed up some logical thinking there all those years ago when I looked this up. A cousin of my grandfather - aforementioned grandmother's husband - was Jewish and either lived in France or fled to France during or before World War 2. That is all I know. I could easily have an Italian grandmother or German great-grandfather on my fathers' side. I don't know if I would know. Maybe my Swiss ancestry goes back to before there was even a rudimentary Switzerland. If I could afford it, I would maybe have it checked out by some genealogist.
@@JebeckyGranjola except there's no evidence that she did that. Also, that wouldn't have gotten her anything. Just claiming you are Native does not in fact qualify you for anything. You actually have to be a tribe member: which Warren never claimed to be. Furthermore, at the time she was applying for college all of this convoluted shit was entirely unnecessary for any woman. Schools had only just started admitting women, and there was a serious shortage of qualified women applicants. Likewise how she got her teaching position. If she was a token diversity hire it wasn't because she claimed to be Native (in all likelihood, the school in question already had at least one Native American on staff) but because she was a woman. Indeed, that would probably still be true today.
@Sophie Jones First, she did in fact list herself as Native American ancestry in college. Yeah, she SAID she didn't do it for an advantage. I'm sure that someone who was being called out for thier lie would definitely not tell another lie to defend themselves. In case you can't tell: that last sentence was a lie. Second: This comment, like Elizabeth Warren, is old as shit and irrelevant.
@@cremetangerine82 A Killer Of The Unborn sounds more like the name of a metal band than something to call anyone. Sorry people call you that, it's a shitty thing to call someone.
You can always tell who's politics are morally bankrupt because they spend ages complaining about how their view gets treated as "the bad guys" and never actually try to argue why their view is good.
video idea: how the coronavirus spread is proving marx right. (how essential "low-skill workers" are, why we need a safety net that protects everyone's need.
I assume that you absolutely reject any possibility of virus being purposely created and spread? That would be something US govt would never do, right, let's immediately dismiss it as conspiracy theory ignoring many well known cases of using bio weapons in the past. EDIT: Point being, if it was done on purpose it surely wasn't to prove Marx point, nor to point out weaknesses of capitalism, per se. They will likely "fix it" by implementing more govt control, with support of majority of people, and it will be fascism/corporatism style.
@@sompompirIt doesn't make sense the US would do it since theyre looking terrible at handling it. It wouldn't be China since now they look terrible for having covered it up. It doesn't make a lot of sense.
@@diegosanchez894 You think they care about human lives? It depends on what the agenda is. Martial law and total control of citizenry is ruling class wet dream. And in this case citizens would basically ask for it. Consider that it could last really really long time, or they could simply ignore the fact there's no more pandemic and continue with fascism. Once they take away people's rights it's not very likely that it will be reversed.
There's a show about modern urban vampires. Kind of a dark Comedy. Can't remember what it's called, but there is a vampire that feeds on people's positive energy instead of blood, so they just drain your willingness to live through vibe destruction. That's booboo Bennet
@@metalbotanist6730 Socialism means collective ownership of the means of production As opposed to capitalism, which is the (government enforced) private ownership of the means of production
@@حَسن-م3ه9ظ To add, to be able to produce anything worth while in good quantities you need to be perrsonally invested in it, and the best way to do that is to own it yourself. Colectivisation has alwas been done by force
Thought Slime, you have made one of my favorite ever burn punctuations against right libertarians and ancaps: "sounds authoritarian to me, but what do I know? My beliefs are internally consistent!" That is straight up pure art.
Lol so true. It's info tainment. Loony toons level shenanigans. It's not REAL news lol lets get real. These people are angry deep down and are just trying to make people more angry than they are in order to feel better about themselves lol. It's kind of sad... Kind of really sad.
Companeros is always another option, and the one I'd probably go with. I suppose it depends where you live, but many of my neighbours and work colleagues moved here (Hertfordshire, England) from former East European satellite states of the USSR, and, for them, the word comrade can be rather evocative of things within recent memory. Companero, is a safer bet, seeing as it was mostly used by anarchists, during the Spanish Revolution, so it has no association with Stalin, or any other dictatorial regimes, and it simply means companions/partners in the struggle against fascism, so it's highly unlikely to upset anyone, well... apart from fascists of course :-)
One of my favorite accidental jokes the Libertarian party played on themselves was that one time that they held a presidential debate and it got crashed by a bunch of nutcases that thought drivers licenses were oppressive and you should be able to sell heroin to kids.
"american libertarianism" is libertarianism in exactly the same way "national socialism" is socialism. _exactly_ the same way, and for _exactly_ the same reason.
zEropoint68 I’ve never thought of it this way, but this is a perfect comparison. I’ll have to remember it next time I need to explain Libertarian socialism vs American libertarianism to someone.
A very good comparison! American libertarians wants seemingly libertarian policies to give them the freedom to oppress more people as private citizens. Nazis wanted socialist policies so more capital could be controlled by the state, giving the state more power.
@@AbsolXGuardian On some level, It's even simpler than that, national socialists put socialist in there because socialism was popular. American libertarians call themselves that because liberty sounds like a good Idea. Your reason is true as well, and there are nuances to why those things are useful for propagandist purposes in their respective context, and how they are implemented in the ideological framework of each movement, but on the most basic level, it's because those are progressive ideals that are more popular than the accurate description (corporate feudalism and genocidal militarism).
@@abandonedchannel281 Opposite of what liberty? Any existing political system is the opposite of liberty in some degree, because it creates at least some restrictive rules. Buy it doesn't mean that some form of government automatically is opposite of liberty, unless you declare that all forms of government are opposite of liberty (that point of view at least doesn't contradict itself). Monarchy is a form of government which historically coexisted with: legal serfdom (less liberty in all forms, I suppose) and illegal serfdom (more liberty), state monopoly on many goods and laissez-faire system (more or less economic liberty), brutal suppression of freedom of speech and absence of most restrictions on it, centralized religion enforced by the state and no involvement of the state into religious matters... Same could be told about democracy or oligarchy. Can you please give a logical explanation how monarchy suppresses freedom when compared to democracy, for example, instead of repeating stupid dogma which is a result of brainwashing by your government's propaganda?
@@nohbuddy1 If you don't understand the difference between liberty (in a political context it means absence of oppressive restrictions on your behavior/views/speech/insert whatever you want) and mechanism of transition of political power in a state (a legal procedure which determines who shall be in charge) - you shouldn't try to insult someone who understands. If you want to make a valid argument against my position (no political system is inherently closer or further to liberty than another) - you may try.
The Canadian libertarian looks like a cross between a used car salesman, J. Jonah Jameson, and a low level prosperity gospel preacher. While all his beliefs are completely wrong, i gotta admit, he got some bangin hair.
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Well, that theory does explain the capitalism, the bigotry and the religion.
Libertarian arguments crumble like tissue paper simply by asking basic, relevant questions, like asking them to explain what their argument even is. Just ask that poopy pants lady why she is doing what she's doing. She has no answer. She has no argument.
"Right Libertarians want to go back to Absolute Monarchism" is that unspoken part that everyone knows but the group will never collectively admit because it'd spook the "normies".
It is much easier for "normies" to accept monarchy rather than anarchy (which is even technically impossible in a society which has at least basic agriculture technology). Some modern countries are absolute monarchies. No technologically advanced society is anarchy in any form. And at least monarchy has some codified universal principles, which can be understood by most people. And no, the idea that right libertarians want to restore monarchy is stupid. It is just a myth, similar to an idea that Jews secretely control the world or universities are overtaken by Marxist conspiracy.
@@endlesssolitaire731 Multiple agricultural societies were organized on Anarchist principles. Theres literally a group of libertarians who are mask off feudalists lmao.
@@endlesssolitaire731 Also, anarchy has some codified universal principles... maybe try understanding anarchy before you come here to explain our own ideology to us?
every one of kaitlyn's videos is such a spectacular self-own that i could probably get genuinely invested in a conspiracy theory that she and her team are actually leftists doing some sort of sarcastic performance art to mock right wing libertarians ... if i were fortunate enough to know less about her and the various chuckleheads she associates with.
like the absolute scathing contempt of the girl who goes "uh, yeah, thats wrong too" when kait asks her elizabeth warren question, looking right at her in disbelief of what an idiot she is, i just literally cant imagine posting that and not feeling a little vulnerable about it
@@JinjaOnHere yeah, violently overthrowing your government resulting in the deaths of hundreds, of not thousands of people is the best way to go about things.
@ Just based on the text of the bible Jesus was working class Jewish man who was anti-capitalism and constantly encouraging redistribution of wealth, essentially transient and surrounded by social outcasts, not to mention being executed because rich elites saw him as a threat. Harassing passer-bys on the street and being fine with poor people dying because of ~*the economy~* wasn't quite his gig.
"If Kaitlyn wasn't doing this she would be doing bullshit at home in the most boring part of Ohio.". Kaitlyn and I are from the same region and it is not only the most boring part of Ohio but also the most boring part of the world.
6:02 "I'm Elizabeth Warren" ... That statement made me cringe in ways I didn't know I could cringe. God what thoughts ran through her head making her think that was a statement anyone would agree with.
"remember, no matter how bad things get - at least you're not putting videos on the internet where people are mocking you to your face about the time you shit yourself at a party" - words to live by.
here in my place in california rn, we are in a complete quarantine lockdown, my town has a curfew and most all shops and buildings are closed, my college is shut down, but my boss still has me signed up for full shifts for the forseeable future. gonna love capitalism amiright folks?
Here in my place in Rockland County I’m a personal assistant and I live with my boss and we have a small business and our employees had to stop coming into work and my boss is old and still trying to scrape by and make it happen and was scared he wouldn’t be able to pay our bills or payroll and so he kept working well past the suggestion to stop and now I’m sick and he’s sure to get sick and we’re stuck here together and I think I’m going to die
Does it make sense for you to work or not? What I mean is: Are you one of few nurses in a nursing home or are you someone who decorates store window for a giant department store that is currently closed and will be among the last to open up again due to only useless stuff being sold in it?
As a member of the Christcom gang, I am saying that. Jesus was a rebel who ran around with a gang of friends, preforming miracles, telling the State to fuck off, and vandalizing banks. He was based on an *incalculable* level.
It does amuse me that the Republicans have adopted red as 'their' colour. While they also shamelessly use 'red baiting' as a political strategy, without even the slightest hint of irony.
@@rafaelneumann8365 Lol, yeah. A lot of entitled people out there. I would like to think that some day we as a species would get passed bullshit, but, eh, we prolly won't make it that far.
“Wages have been stagnant for decades” Yes this is a bad thing they should be raised “This is the immigrants’ fault” Wh… wait what. How’d ya get there, bud??
Because wages are entirely outside the control of those who pay them, and if someone accepts a below-poverty wage, that means they're deliberately trying to steal money from everyone else. Of course.
Banks a month ago: You can't pay your overdraft fee? Well tough luck sunshine, perhaps you should've thought about that before splurging on a pack of ramen! Banks in a month: Hewwo government? Can we pretty please get another trillion? :(
@@HerrBjork Reading that in our Slimey Comrade's voice was super entertaining for a few seconds, before the fact that this is reality came washing back over me. Thanks for the few seconds at least
It's been a really tough week. I have a sick cat and a sick elderly family member, and I really didn't expect this video to cheer me up, but it actually genuinely did a lot. Thanks, Slimefriend!
@@TheChowitzer I second that. When you speak of social (as in socialist or as in social democracy?) anarchists, what other anarchists do you have in mind who would not be social?
@@TheChowitzer If these primitivists are anarchists, wouldn't they still fall under the scope of classical libertarianism? And as far as "anarcho" capitalists are concerned, I wouldn't give them even that. There is nothing anarchic about their ideas.
I love how what's his nuts says "this massive push for globalization" like every centerist-leftists got together in a meeting and we all voted for globalization (with the express motive to piss off the right, of course), and totally not understanding globalization as the inevitable consequence of colonialism. That meeting was great though, they gave us free pizza!
Not Jesus, but James 5:1-6 : "Come now, you rich, weep and howl for the miseries that are coming upon you. Your riches have rotted and your garments are moth-eaten. Your gold and silver have corroded, and their corrosion will be evidence against you and will eat your flesh like fire. You have laid up treasure in the last days. Behold, the wages of the laborers who mowed your fields, which you kept back by fraud, are crying out against you, and the cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of hosts. 5 You have lived on the earth in luxury and in self-indulgence. You have fattened your hearts in a day of slaughter. You have condemned and murdered the righteous person. He does not resist you."
@@ahorseofcourse7283 They don't talk about politics but Griffin seems pretty left compared to his brothers and "standard" liberals. He worked for Polygon and their video team who have made references to their more left views like wanting a cooperative and disliking capitalism. But I could be wrong. I just think they're funny.
You know, Canadian Libertarian is actually the first person I've heard who actually has that stereotypical Canadian accent that people assume all Canadians sound like.
It's always important to recognize that dunking on people is rarely constructive. But I watched a bunch of constructive stuff before this and I'm very drained from people being terrible. So here I am
You can tell the "you won the prize" thing was something she came up with on the spot. The way she stumbled and sputtered to get it out, she thought of it five minutes before hand and REALLY thought it was a solid burn but it...wasn't. And it's so sad because you can see she's so proud of herself.
I work for Walmart. During the toilet paper craze we tried to limit people to 1 package per customer, but it came down from the higher ups that we can't do that, it isn't American. So we helped customers load entire pallets of toilet paper cases into their cars while being forbidden to even give them a dirty look for it, and afterwards we were abused by the people who just saw us doing that who don't understand that we have no say in the matter. But American capitalism is great.
I came back to this after spending an afternoon watching Nazis get punched. Honestly I didn’t think I could feel any greater joy, but then you put those Jesus quotes on screen and my heart just started singing.
I'm literally taking a Macro-Econ class right now that the professor entirely teaches from a book written by two guys from the Cato Institute. I hate my life. They literally suggested that we'd be better off without a minimum wage. How is something this biased allowed in education?? Oh and all the predictable shit about how price gouging is actually good. If anyone's curious, it's Private and Public Choice, 16th Edition, by Gwartney and Stroup. Also the professor is a former successful wage stealer (Also known as "businessman" in some circles)
Oof. I took a micro-economics class that I got very frustrated about because of how oversimplified everything was, but I held on because the professor would occasionally just drop how research indicates that we don’t actually need growth, or how there are many different kinds of economic systems that aren’t just capitalism like we have.
@@gregkahuna1 I'm not saying that if you can talk you must have an ideology, or even that it is likely, merely that you can't just assume that someone is apolitical simply due to their being a child. As for your "meme comment" defense, jokes aren't above criticism. Your joke wasn't funny, so I assumed it wasn't a joke at all. Knowing that it is, it's still not funny. I'm not upset or whatever, just saying that the thing you said was dumb in a way that humor doesn't excuse.
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i’m indigenous. i didn’t know we weren’t productive with our land when allegedly we taught the settlers how to farm.
I don't remember the exact name of the legislation but the US in the late 1800s basically divided up remaining native american lands into "homesteads" to encourage them to farm and "civilize". They basically gave them shitty land and no tools or info on how to farm (most great plains natives relied on buffalo hunting and gathering because the great plains were difficult to farm without steel equipment and it was difficult to farm sustainably) which resulted in famine. Miners and other settlers often squatted illegally on native land or pressured natives into selling it. Natives " not taking full advantage of land" is a fucking myth, settlers and government made it purposefully impossible for natives to live off their land so that they could take it for themselves.
The Slotherin 18 FACTS
This argument is also used here in Brazil.
But "using land productively" is just used as code for "use it to make profit". So that natives who are, in fact, actively using the land to be self-sufficient and develop it to grow their tribes are not considered "productive" because someone rich could be making more money with that land.
And the punchline is that rich brazilian land owners usually make money off land by speculating on it financially instead of actually working the land, because they have way too much land to work it all.
So in effect natives are driven from land they own and are productive in (and by driven it usually means "wiped out by armed mercenaries", yes, in the 21st century). And rich land owners buy these lands to clear it of all natural ecosystems in order to leave it empty and making the numbers go high.
@@rafaelneumann8365 I'm upvoting but I want to make a sad face.
It really also begs the question of what does productive mean? Whose version of productive is to be used?
Kaitlyn is the only person I know who can go start debates with strangers who aren't prepared for a debate, lose, and still upload it to youtube
for people who hate socialism they sure seem to like being publicly owned
Oh SNAP! 🤯 That comeback genuinely just blew my mind. Thank you for making my day a little better. 😊
brutal
Socialism is the only fair and justified system, they dont get that but they cant disprove it.
@@dangeroussnek8932 That makes no sense.
@@dangeroussnek8932 that makes no sense
ok, trying it without the profanity this time so the CENSORS don't get me. Oh my god the gilded kants rock butt. listen to the song "acid at the zoo." give yourselves a treat today
Thanks a million Joel. You're pretty dang rockin yourself - Really appreciate both of you mentioning us and all the people coming over for a hang and listen
Just watched jordan peterson and prageru vudeos by you, after bingeing the whole drwamworks videos
Luv ya guy, also I know this is out of left field, but for some punk rock suggestions, specifically hardcore, go check out Armors new album: Some Kind of War.
Also, loved your content on the twitter and empathy, thank you for taking a stand against mindless support of pretend leftism and what toxic masculinity can look like for the left.
PUNKS NOT DEAD BOIS
Big Joel Ayyy i knew you were a lefty after your Click vid, subscribed :)
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I love the guy who just tried to take the microphone. "Can I have that? Why not?" What a madlad.
Property is theft
Snatch and throw, if they try to get physical you can choose to retaliate or not, if you do you're both in equal trouble, if you don't they will get arrested for assaulting you (if the cops do their job, that is) because it is not legal to commit A&B because someone broke something you own. You might get in trouble for destruction of property, which is many degrees less serious than assault so it's still a win
@@TheWonkster which is extremely fucked up. This is the legal structure that protects thieves.
Disproportionate retaliation is the best deterrent to crime. If bikes were filled with C4 then drivers would stop running them over.
These people are wealth hoarders who point guns at tax officals and claim guns bring used against them and being kidnapped
@@appa609 lol, this Bill thinks deterrence works
I love when people say "a Native American" as if that is a singular culture with a defined code of dress and not a large number of cultures across two continents with vastly different clothing, customs, culture, and languages. And by love, I mean that I die a little inside every time.
It's about as accurate as me walking around with a beret, glass of wine, and a comically large bagette and saying I'm "Eurasian."
@@adaephon Reminds me of the old "Washington Caucasians" bit
Wait wait wait....Is that black guy dressed as a white cowboy?
Should we tell him? That most cowboys were POC..no, oh okay....
I don't know about most but certainly a lot more than people that romanticize that old west would be comfortable admitting.
The joke he makes is that he's Woody from Toy Story, alternatively he says he is the uncle of Woody who of course is named Tom at one point.
Draw your own conclusions from the latter.
Sorry....the new meaning is what Libertarian is.. just call yourself a left populist and cut the bullshit.
@@lukesenesac stop seceding things to assholes. also, only in north America is that even sort of accurate.
Cowboys is a Mexican thing
Ranchero y Vaquero then we taught the hwites
I genuinely laughed at the guy going "What is this? That's disgusting" at Caitlin in her weird native american costume that she probably bought for 30 bucks at party city.
That was so good! It was the look of disgust, confusion and disbelief.
The real hero of the story
I am convinced that Kaitlyn's editor is actually a leftie and purposefully edits the videos to make her look bad.
Sounds like an easy job to me.
It's not working, the comments on her videos are overwhelmingly positive. Righties will cling to anyone who agrees with them.
Gun girl always oozes the energy you'd expect from like... a relative who's convinced that they're "the cool one" and that they're being fun and quirky but really are just mildly annoying and uncomfortable to be around at holidays
Gail the Snail.
Truth
She's the cousin that isn't in the group chat
She oozes something.
Hey a fellow Jellikin!
Imagine being a ‘libertarian’ and supporting the government stealing land from citizens.
I'm libertarian and I don't support that
@@somerando925 Then... he's not talking about you. Thanks for stopping by though
@@SquishyProductions no libertarians support stealing peoples land
@@somerando925 yeah, ppl who support that shit ain't libertarian.
Fun fact the word "libertarian" was invented by anarchist-communist Joseph Déjacque.
"Explain cultural appropriation to me. Hey, don't touch my microphone. Why? Well because it's not yours, you can't just take it because you like it. What do you mean 'irony'?"
A woman goes to the doctor and says "doctor, the current climate of fear is making me depressed, what should I do?"
The doctor replies "Easy, just watch this great video by Thought Slime dunking on Kaitlin Bennett!"
The woman bursts into tears and says "but doctor, I am Kaitlin Bennett!"
The doctor responds "fuck off pants shitting lib"
@@stm7810 ?
@@thatguyfromouterspace5753 I refuse to call her a libertarian, this is the compromise.
@@stm7810 I mean, to be fair, liberty hangout are actually just nazis. They use the libertarian/ancap thing because statistically, those are the most likely to be converted
@@verager2493 wow, that's even shittier. she should be milk shaked in a video game
Defending fuedalism by calling it the epitome of "property rights" reminded me of Southern states in the 1800's arguing for slavery because of "states' rights".
A property's right to what
a property's right to murder
That's because it's basically the same argument. Remember that the conservative mindset, at it's core, is primarly hierarchically based. The mechanism by which that hierarchy is built, be it divine right, tenants of racial superiority, religious dogma, or economic/monetary domination, isn't really that important. How it is maintained, either through "democratic" election or brutal authoritarianism is equally unimportant. There are people on the top and there are people on the bottom. So long as you have someone below you, for whatever reason, "proper order" is maintained and things are "as they should be" regardless as to who's actually at the top.
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Thus "property rights" or "states rights" or "sovereign citizenship" or "ultra nationalism" or whatever you want to call it becomes an attractive and useful mechanism. It helps re-enforce that someone, somewhere, has total domain over their own little patch where order (or rather one's own self serving idea of order) can be built and maintained in a kind of neo-feudal fashion. Those from the "outside" who oppose what you are doing on your patch, say like practicing slavery, segregation, disenfranchisement of minority populations, wanton environmental destruction, etc are therefor "infringing on your freedom" who need to be resisted while those "inside" your patch who oppose your bad leadership and seek to change things are "troublemakers," "subversives," and "traitors." who need to be rooted out, put down, and destroyed.
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This is why the whole "states rights" argument in all its iterations used by conservatives, no matter what the flavor, ultimately fall apart in application. To use but one noteworthy example they'll bang on and on about how "the state" has the right to decide for itself whether it will legally recognize or accept gay marriage. But when that same state decides, legally and by majority to decriminalize and legalize gay marriage they shift gears and decry gay marriage from another angle. To use another you'll often hear them rail against eminent domain and government land seizure when it's their land in question. But if it involves someone else's land being taken to build a useful wall because they think it will "keep out illegals" or build a pipeline or strip mine an area that's "protecting our boarders "and "the march of progress"
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To wit, "state's rights" or "property rights" or whatever ultimately has nothing to with actual rights. It's the smokescreen used to enforce a particular form of control and authority over a specific location and resist change or growth that challenges that control or authority.
steampunker7 you’re right hierarchy is very important. Definitely not the only thing that matters tho.
Feudalism without a crown? I'd love to hear how that would work.
Kaitlin "poopoo" Bennet knows the costume is offensive because she isn't asking these questions on a Native American Reservation. There is no possible way she thinks she's morally correct.
It would have been hilarious if she tried to go to a regeneration dressed like that.... and then a native American dressed like a cowboy comes up and throws her own shit back at her.
The biggest problem I have with Libertarians is that they reject the notion of the common. If someone developed a system to extract all the oxygen from the atmosphere and then sell it to consumers like a utility, the Libertarians would not only dutifully pay for the privilege of breathing, they would also applaud the technology as a great step forward in civilization.
So basically the Lorax movie
@@stm7810 Not that it matters but the movie that was the basis of my comment was Total Recall, (1990). Breathable oxygen was produced by the corporation that owned the Martian mining colony. It was a commodity and everything that Mr Cohaagen did with oxygen to control the inhabitants conformed with the ethics derived from the libertarian theory of property rights.
Amatuer! You should set up a sun-shade at the Earth-Sun L1 point and charge copious fees to those who want light and arbitrarily deny it for any price to those who you disagree with.
The problem with trying to corner the oxygen market is having to control all photosynthesis. You've got to buy up all the plants and phytoplankton. And patent electrolysis of water... cuz some putz it going to try to undercut you with water-derived oxygen.
@@CarFreeSegnitz Both plans are too technologically elaborate, like some villainous scheme from a comic book. The usual way these things work is not by privatizing, monopolizing, and monetizing the common, but instead by poisoning the common and charging for products that were free before, but now need to be purified.
@@bradypustridactylus488
Ahhhhhh I thought you were going for a Space Balls reference there, damn it 😄
"Great crowd we've got here tonight... So, are there any libertarians in the audience?"
Goatee'd guy in an opera cape: "AM I BEING DETAINED?"
"I haven't pooped my pants since I was... how old was I... 2?" has the same energy as "I pledge not to dump 4.7 million gallons of crude oil into the gulf of mexico"
*barrels*
you're off by almost 50x
"I pledge not to dump"
I'm doing my part!
The irony of asking the leading question "Is this costume offensive" while wearing the costume is huge. She is only wearing it BECAUSE she knows it's offensive. She's asking people to justify why it's bad when she knows it's bad.
Almost as if reationary right-wingers have nothing except contrarianism and provocation instead of any real thought.
It'd be a lot funnier if they played it straight and had some completely unrelated and uncontroversial things to talk about when they approach people. Forcing the snowflakes to escalate the situation unprovoked thus showing how utterly fragile they are.
It’s only offensive to unintelligent losers
A J bruh she’s basically walking around in blackface.
A J before watching her video I didn’t even believe cultural appropriation was bad. Now I do.
Stranger: I’m a huge fan!
Gun Girl: Really!?
Stranger: Lol no.
She basically did the equivalent of "Guess what? Chicken butt!" and thinks she scored a victory for the ages. A grown woman.
Is she really a grown woman though?
Every Lefty when some conservative criticizes a Democrat: Uh, yeah. That's bad as well.
It's important to hold your leaders accountable, no matter who they are.
when people talk about me pooing myself I'm actually owning them [voice breaking] I'm owning tHEM
If there is no self delusion, than what's all this been for?
You're doing performance art at this point
Ted Nugent would be proud.
Her argument about the indigenous costume is like saying, if I steal twenty dollars from you, then you can’t get mad, because some people steal millions of dollars from each other
Libertarianism: the belief that out of all the terrible shit that governments do, the absolute worst is when they help people.
I know it's futile but it still pisses me off that they've stole that word.
@@Aconitum_napellusI dont think its futile
@@Aconitum_napellus They used to use the term "Autarkism" but that sounded goofy, so they stole a better word. This "philosophy" has only really existed since the post WWII, late 1940s - though there were people like Lysander Spooner in the 19th century that are considered "Libertarian" forebears. When they were alive, they were considered cranks.
One nice part of Ancaps stealing "Libertarian" is that, ever since I started IDing as a "Libertarian Socialist," a number of alt-right reactionaries I know have listened to me, considered my stance, and even changed their worldview. It seems to help 'em understand that we see the same systemic problems... we just have different ideas about what's causing 'em.
Yes because they can't
*Capitalism collapses in flames*
Capitalists: "BEHOLD! THE FAILURE OF SOCIALISM!"
When did capitalism collapse? And why most prosperous countries in the world are capitalist if it collapses?
@@endlesssolitaire731 it's a hyperbolic representation of Ancap thinking. No need to take it literally
@@jorgeamadosoriaramirez8953 And it is completely dumb and irrelevant, because capitalism didn't collapse. Thus, you will not find even an example from which you can hyperbolize.
@@endlesssolitaire731 Americans saying that this pandemic is a Bernie presidency test run, despite the fact that it's literally happening under Trump, the current president.
Capitalism collapses regularly. It’s called a “recession” or “depression.” For some reason, we keep reviving it every time instead of replacing it with something else that won’t have to be resuscitated every decade or two.
CL: "Wages have been depressed by globalization!"
me: yeah, that's definitely a factor, jobs get sent to countries where companies don't have to pay their workers as much
CL: "And it's gonna get even worse because of immigration!"
me: ... so actually your problem is just that nonwhite people are part of our economy
i like how they pretend that having a subclass of human automatons won't fucking blow up in their face like it did back then.
they're just aching for the days where 5cents a day was a good salary in a field dominated by slave labor, aren't they?
"oh, we'll just kill them all!" you say, Nazily.
and then you become the subhuman labor force those above you want to kill off! Because the corporations make the decisions, peon; not you.
Also not even that true since even if jobs weren't sent to those countries, wages wouldn't increase because employers would already think those wages are high and would find another way to avoid wage increase.
The immigration thing and lots of similar issues has been debunked by Bastiat centuries ago.
A lot of conservatives will push that kind of crap then turn around and claim to be free market.
Automation is a repeat of the same issue. As the aforementioned frenchman states, most of these fallacies come down to thinking productivity can be a bad thing.
I wasn't prepared for that Canadian boomer to throw up the "great replacement" card. Then again, I have some Indigenous friends from Canada talk about how messed up the racism is up there, even compared to the States. I guess right-wing kooks come in all sorts of flavors.😰
yeah no the indigenous focused racism here is WILD
Racism and idioties are everywhere. All nations, and all ideologies
It really depends on the province and area, there is a _lot_of ethnic tension in Winnipeg for instance (not just between Canadian and First Nations communities, but also between different indigenous bands and French and English speaking neighborhoods. Then theres the Métis, which are a whole other conversation.)
I would argue that the context of prejudice is very different than in the U.S, there are extremist groups within indigenous society that are very loud. These groups do a great disservice to our First Nations, they perpetuate the stereotype of entitlement. This riles up the Canadian working class for two reasons;
1. Our culture is one of relative social responsibility, it is every Canadian's social duty to contribute to programs that support us all. We are not European in our social programs, they aren't free, but they are widely and easily accessible and tax subsidy keeps the prices down. It works to our mutual benefit. A demand that is percived to be only beneficial to a specific group beyond reason makes us very hostile because it violates the spirit of this social responsibility.
2. Although we are less individualistic than Americans, for many Canadians (particularly in the western provinces) land title is a huge deal (like, it's hard to overemphasize how much we care about it.) Be it erroneous or not, there is often a sense animosity between reserves and the communities that surround them.
@@oliviawilliams6204 Racism and idioties are everywhere. All nations, and all ideologies
what utter rubbish, whataboutism without specifics , is ESPECIALLY pathetic.
@@jamestcatcato7132 I’m sorry but it’s just true, the only thing distributed equally in everything is the amount of morons. Did not think that was controversial to say
Libertarian: “Let the people be free!”
People: (freely choose socialism)
Libertarian: (head explodes)
Murderous Regime Time 😎
@@No-hf5xb What do you mean, Pinochet just wanted to guide the invisible hand of the market? /s
When did people freely choose socialism? Generally Marxist zealots grabbed political power with weapons and brutally crushed any opposition (even with toxic gas or burning hostages, like during Russian civil war). National socialists came to power because of a political intrigues, so even this example doesn't work.
@@endlesssolitaire731 A *lot* of the time.
Socialist movements usually had worse material support than the alternatives, since capitalists had been building up wealth for centuries. The only way socialist movements had to succeed was through popular support.
Cuba, Russia, China, Vietnam etc. were all turned socialist by the will of the people.
@@A_B_1917 The Bolsheviks received only about 17% on the elections in 1917, so no. You are just wrong. They took political power by extreme violence. The only popular support they had was the support of deserters who didn't want to be sent to the front lines. And these poor misguided soldiers received the same front lines, but at their homes.
Same with China. Mao and Castro (the last one become a "socialist" just to receive support from USSR though) took political power by violence.
About Vietnam I don't know much enough, but from what I know, Communists used nationalistic uprising against Catholic francophone elites to gain political power.
The fetus violated the NAP by aggressing on the mother's property.
I've started saying "Welcome to the Eyeball Zone" along with the video. I'm already within the grasp of Lord Oculon.
Jackie Gillis I love the Lore. So much. So much Lore.
I recently had a wide ranging political discussion with a libertarian. And I was impressed about just how inconsistent his ideas where.
A particular highlight was his claim that the government is useless and corporations should run everything. But also the government should regulate the corporations to stop them being evil.
Most libertarians would also point out that corporations are an agreement with a company and the government
@@ThoughtSlime we never quite got to that point. Though I kinda got the impression that this guy called himself a libertarian to put some distance between him and modern American conservatism. As he told me that he once worked on Mitt Romney's presidential campaign, but voted against trump.
That guy don’t sound like a libertarian. Just an idiot who thinks he is
Hmm. I just ran into one that was more of an ancap.
I pointed out that there would be nothing to stop the rich from hiring mercenaries, then seizing both territory and serfs.
This is why I don't think anarcho-capitalism would work.
Capitalism itself functions as an oppressive system, IMO.
@Albert Whisker Each mercenary would have incentive to listen to the rich guy in the form of all the other mercenaries hired by the rich guy. Unless the mercenaries unionized or something, but then the rich guy could just hire some mercenaries to act as strikebreakers and...wait a second...
Isn´t that the same woman who wanted to get people riled up about putting pads into men´s bathrooms in a college and failed in pretty much the same way she did in this one?
I saw that video and I ADORE the trans guy who was like “yeah I’m not mad, I use the menstrual products all the time” then walked off, king shit right there
Yeah, she is! I remember seeing that and almost crying happily at how nice people are.
As a recovering “libertarian” I find this to be therapeutic.
Congratulations on escaping and welcome. How did you find your way out?
i wanna know how you even found your way in
That's so cool! Reading comments like this give me hope I thought was forever gone.
When faced with an unpleasant outbreak of libertarianism (of the pernicious North American Rothbard variety), it is usually best treated with the careful application of Proudhon and a little Henry George. However, if symptoms persist, the infected is unfortunately either cretinously stupid, or deeply sociopathic, both of which are sadly quite incurable. Glad to hear you made it out OK :-)
@@chillingate6817 I dunno about them, but I had ended up a libertarian in high school. I was raised with some level of skepticism towards statism or imperialism of a vague, ill defined variety, and libertarianism, when I was young and impressionable, managed to market itself to me as being that.
I think what got me out of there was realizing at the time that I didn't actually know nearly as much as I thought I did about sociology, economics, or politics, plus I didn't have an answer to the question of how to prevent hydraulic empires from forming.
If IQ wasn't a number that represents a value based arbitrary characteristics that have little to no basis on real world functioning but is nonetheless often used to defend and uphold social hierarchy I'd say I feel like I lose IQ points when hearing libertarians speak.
That was a very wordy way to put it. You must have a high IQ.
I feel like I gained IQ points reading that
@ The difference between the IQ of the average African and European, for example, can be almost entirely explained by socio-economic factors. This is why when you contrast different races of people on similar socio-economic backgrounds there's little to no difference.
That isn't to say that genetics don't play a role in determaning IQ; it does, but the differences between races are not prounced enough to make any tangible difference on aggregate.
@ IQ tests test things that only those who were well off would no at the time the book was writen.
@ they are not that good and are pseudo science.
You had me until you had to randomly make fun of Kent, Ohio as "the most boring part of Ohio" without any sort of objective argument. I submit May 4 1970, and DEVO as counter arguments for starters. I'd argue that Lima, Ohio is way more boring. That's right, Lima. I said it.
not the Lima in "Glee"
I nominate Reedsville, Ohio
Lima balls
… I’m sorry I had to do it.
I grew up in Dayton and can confirm, Lima kinda sucks.
I feel like arguing what part of Ohio is like looking at a glass filled halfway, it could be half full, could be half empty, does it matter how full the glass is if its filled with piss? Its ohio. ITS OHIO.
I swear libertarians don't know what libertarianism is. They seem to love authoritarian policies...
Libertarians are the edgy teenager that thinks Disturbed is heavy metal but have never heard of Slayer.
@@poposterous236 I don't know much about Metal, but I'll take your word for it 👍🏼
Pandaman They think that Linkin Park is the heaviest thing ever but haven’t heard of death metal
I know a “libertarian” who thinks that the role of government is to stop criminals. I can get behind that, violent crime is bad. However, when I asked what he thought of drug users being punished, he said it’s good because they’re criminals. I asked why they’re criminals and he said it’s because drugs are bad.
I mean, that seems to be every conservative political platform. Says you're for X, actually be for Y.
The main thing that keeps me left no matter what is the integrity in the people. You should mean what you say and act accordingly. Acting the opposite of what you believe and pretending you're not is the #1 most triggering thing for me, in all aspects of life.
Remember to drink some water today everyone c:
@@retardwithfas3745 remember to pour cold water on your burns folks
water can also be used to be clean up sick
sick burns are no problem for water
@@retardwithfas3745 battery acid can be used to clean up sick
Even when I identified as an AnCap I always hated Liberty Hangout. They represent pretty much everything I loathe about conservatism in general.
i've seen a lot of people say that they've been converted from being alt right to being a liberal before, but never an ancap to a leftist (i'm assuming). how did you pull that off?
They're so bad at what they do im half convinced they exist to make ancaps look especially stupid.
Same. For the confused, a Right Libertarian/ AnCap with the potential to go Left is basically a hermit with a fancy label, or a pacifist who has yet to see the inherent violence of Capitalism.
Some people get into AnCap because they like the anti-authority message and know about state sanctioned evil, but fall out with it when it fails to acknowledge the tyranny and power imbalance of private individuals under capitalism. I remember being really into Ron Paul in 2008 because he was anti-war, anti-bailouts, anti-Drug War, etc. and tried libertarianism for awhile, but the internal contradictions and bad online arguments pushed me to the left.
I am no fan of Elizabeth Warren but I want to defend her just a little bit when it came to how she screwed up thinking she was Cherokee. I live in the United States and most people here genuinely believe they have Native American blood because their parents told them this and their parents believe it because their grandparents told them ect...No one is really sure where the myth started, who started it, or why, but some theorize it's something white people started saying generations ago in order to justify their colonization of the land. "I'm part Native so I belong here too." There are a lot of white folks who do in fact have Native blood but it's hard to say how many because most generations were just raised to believe they had some without questioning it. I'll bet that's why Elizabeth Warren believed she was part Cherokee. Plus Cherokee specifically is a very popular tribe for white people to claim ancestry from because they were considered a "civilized tribe". My mom raised me to believe I was part Cherokee too until we recently found out there is no known Native Ancestry on her side. Contrast that with my dad's side where he had to do quite a bit of digging to find out he was part Native. His family had proof of the ancestry but were so ashamed of it they actively tried to cover it up. Then of course you also have the families who are part Native but lied about the specific tribe to switch it to "Cherokee" because it sounds better, but the point is most whites were totally unaware of this until recently with all the DNA testing and ancestry websites out there which allow you to actively search historical records about your great great grandparents.
Princess Euphemia100 I grew up being told I’m a substantial amount Cherokee. In my twenties I stopped buying into it. Just got my results back 2 months ago: British and Danish. 99.6% European .4% unknown.
You said everything I wanted to say and said I better than I would have.
The difference between Johnny Depp saying he is 1/16 Cherokee Princess and Warren is that she put that on her college application form to try to take advantage of minority status.
Edit: I meant to say that I agree with your post.
Regardless of how I agree with your post I have to say that US Americans make me feel weird about knowing nothing about my heritage. I am from Switzerland (and have lived here all my life) and I have no idea where my ancestors - if you even wanna use that term when talking about your grandparents - come from. I know my grandmother was born in Egypt but I never heard anything about her being part Egyptian and I think I remember a child of hers telling me that she had two Swiss parents who just happened to live in Egypt for some time. My grandmother was born in August of 1918 and at one point I looked up if her being born in Egypt could have to do with the construction of the Suez Canal but it seems that that doesn't make sense date-wise. But maybe I messed up some logical thinking there all those years ago when I looked this up. A cousin of my grandfather - aforementioned grandmother's husband - was Jewish and either lived in France or fled to France during or before World War 2. That is all I know. I could easily have an Italian grandmother or German great-grandfather on my fathers' side. I don't know if I would know. Maybe my Swiss ancestry goes back to before there was even a rudimentary Switzerland. If I could afford it, I would maybe have it checked out by some genealogist.
@@JebeckyGranjola except there's no evidence that she did that. Also, that wouldn't have gotten her anything. Just claiming you are Native does not in fact qualify you for anything. You actually have to be a tribe member: which Warren never claimed to be. Furthermore, at the time she was applying for college all of this convoluted shit was entirely unnecessary for any woman. Schools had only just started admitting women, and there was a serious shortage of qualified women applicants. Likewise how she got her teaching position. If she was a token diversity hire it wasn't because she claimed to be Native (in all likelihood, the school in question already had at least one Native American on staff) but because she was a woman. Indeed, that would probably still be true today.
@Sophie Jones First, she did in fact list herself as Native American ancestry in college. Yeah, she SAID she didn't do it for an advantage. I'm sure that someone who was being called out for thier lie would definitely not tell another lie to defend themselves. In case you can't tell: that last sentence was a lie. Second: This comment, like Elizabeth Warren, is old as shit and irrelevant.
*is purposeful offensive*
"Wow I can't believe you're offended you snowflake."
@adam riddle If not being purposely offensive is bending over backwards for you, I think you need help.
As a pro-choice woman, it’s hard to civilly talk to someone who keeps calling you “a killer of the unborn”.
@@cremetangerine82 A Killer Of The Unborn sounds more like the name of a metal band than something to call anyone. Sorry people call you that, it's a shitty thing to call someone.
Jade Of All Trades
That phrase was used by the Canadian Libertarian in the video.
I get called “baby killer”, personally.
@@cremetangerine82 Still sucks to be called that. :(
You can always tell who's politics are morally bankrupt because they spend ages complaining about how their view gets treated as "the bad guys" and never actually try to argue why their view is good.
And which "side" would you be talking about?
They can quarantine us but they can't stop us from dunking on libertarians :)
TIL: The Dark Lord is a chill commie
@@fat6776
See, Sauron's distanced himself quite a bit from the Dark Lord business after he's seen what Melkor's servants are up to nowadays
It's my life
@@sundayschoolflunkie3979 Why would we want to shut you down? Were not filthy authoritarians like certain people.
Sunday School Flunkie you trying to censor us makes us happy. It means we are right.
video idea: how the coronavirus spread is proving marx right. (how essential "low-skill workers" are, why we need a safety net that protects everyone's need.
Also in the video:
"How the coronavirus actively shows the instability of capitalist economies."
Corona virus: How we could all die because of capitalism.
I assume that you absolutely reject any possibility of virus being purposely created and spread? That would be something US govt would never do, right, let's immediately dismiss it as conspiracy theory ignoring many well known cases of using bio weapons in the past.
EDIT: Point being, if it was done on purpose it surely wasn't to prove Marx point, nor to point out weaknesses of capitalism, per se. They will likely "fix it" by implementing more govt control, with support of majority of people, and it will be fascism/corporatism style.
@@sompompirIt doesn't make sense the US would do it since theyre looking terrible at handling it. It wouldn't be China since now they look terrible for having covered it up. It doesn't make a lot of sense.
@@diegosanchez894 You think they care about human lives? It depends on what the agenda is. Martial law and total control of citizenry is ruling class wet dream. And in this case citizens would basically ask for it. Consider that it could last really really long time, or they could simply ignore the fact there's no more pandemic and continue with fascism. Once they take away people's rights it's not very likely that it will be reversed.
There's a show about modern urban vampires. Kind of a dark Comedy. Can't remember what it's called, but there is a vampire that feeds on people's positive energy instead of blood, so they just drain your willingness to live through vibe destruction. That's booboo Bennet
What We Do In The Shadows
@@pearkore6821 that's it! Thanks lol
"Socialism is when the government does things, and the more things it does, the socialister it is"
- The right
Well you do need more government for welfare and central planning.
@@metalbotanist6730
Socialism means collective ownership of the means of production
As opposed to capitalism, which is the (government enforced) private ownership of the means of production
@@حَسن-م3ه9ظ I dont need a government to safeguard my private poperty from thieves, be it government or the masses
@@حَسن-م3ه9ظ To add, to be able to produce anything worth while in good quantities you need to be perrsonally invested in it, and the best way to do that is to own it yourself. Colectivisation has alwas been done by force
@@metalbotanist6730 yes you do.
The catharsis we all need
Zelda Kieser - so true. So true.
Thought Slime, you have made one of my favorite ever burn punctuations against right libertarians and ancaps: "sounds authoritarian to me, but what do I know? My beliefs are internally consistent!" That is straight up pure art.
5:45 "You guys are doing performance art at this point."
He's not wrong.
Lol so true. It's info tainment. Loony toons level shenanigans. It's not REAL news lol lets get real. These people are angry deep down and are just trying to make people more angry than they are in order to feel better about themselves lol. It's kind of sad... Kind of really sad.
Just, you know, _bad_ performance art.
performance art can at least be provocative or interesting sometime.
unlike Katylin's braindead shit
That was the best line in the entire video imo
I feel uncomfortable calling this para-social relationship “friends” I prefer Comrades. Since we are strangers fighting for a better world :p
Any anarchist fighting for a better world is my fren💗
Just for that Replicator... I will MAKE you comfortable by calling you friend lol.
Friend friend frend frendfrnendfnrnenndnfnrenendnrend : )
Why not both?
But comrade is more than friend, it has a more intimate meaning
Companeros is always another option, and the one I'd probably go with. I suppose it depends where you live, but many of my neighbours and work colleagues moved here (Hertfordshire, England) from former East European satellite states of the USSR, and, for them, the word comrade can be rather evocative of things within recent memory. Companero, is a safer bet, seeing as it was mostly used by anarchists, during the Spanish Revolution, so it has no association with Stalin, or any other dictatorial regimes, and it simply means companions/partners in the struggle against fascism, so it's highly unlikely to upset anyone, well... apart from fascists of course :-)
One of my favorite accidental jokes the Libertarian party played on themselves was that one time that they held a presidential debate and it got crashed by a bunch of nutcases that thought drivers licenses were oppressive and you should be able to sell heroin to kids.
What's next, _a license to make toast in your _*_own dAMn ToaSTER?_*
.... Sovereign citizens?
"american libertarianism" is libertarianism in exactly the same way "national socialism" is socialism. _exactly_ the same way, and for _exactly_ the same reason.
zEropoint68 I’ve never thought of it this way, but this is a perfect comparison. I’ll have to remember it next time I need to explain Libertarian socialism vs American libertarianism to someone.
A very good comparison! American libertarians wants seemingly libertarian policies to give them the freedom to oppress more people as private citizens. Nazis wanted socialist policies so more capital could be controlled by the state, giving the state more power.
@@AbsolXGuardian On some level, It's even simpler than that, national socialists put socialist in there because socialism was popular. American libertarians call themselves that because liberty sounds like a good Idea.
Your reason is true as well, and there are nuances to why those things are useful for propagandist purposes in their respective context, and how they are implemented in the ideological framework of each movement, but on the most basic level, it's because those are progressive ideals that are more popular than the accurate description (corporate feudalism and genocidal militarism).
Why can't I like a comment twice?
Shut up and take my upvote.
"Look at all those fonts! How are you supposed to read that?" In my graphics design class we called that the "Serial Killer Effect."
"there is nuance, and I'd like the discussion to get to that point, but all the bloodthirsty baby murderers won't let us get there!"
'Liberty Hangout'
'Liberty'
'I wanna live under a monarchy'
Where is a contradiction? Political system and personal and economic freedom is not the same thing.
Алексей Табачник Even a libertarian should agree, monarchy is the opposite of liberty it is a no brainer
@@endlesssolitaire731 How dumb are you
@@abandonedchannel281 Opposite of what liberty? Any existing political system is the opposite of liberty in some degree, because it creates at least some restrictive rules. Buy it doesn't mean that some form of government automatically is opposite of liberty, unless you declare that all forms of government are opposite of liberty (that point of view at least doesn't contradict itself).
Monarchy is a form of government which historically coexisted with: legal serfdom (less liberty in all forms, I suppose) and illegal serfdom (more liberty), state monopoly on many goods and laissez-faire system (more or less economic liberty), brutal suppression of freedom of speech and absence of most restrictions on it, centralized religion enforced by the state and no involvement of the state into religious matters... Same could be told about democracy or oligarchy.
Can you please give a logical explanation how monarchy suppresses freedom when compared to democracy, for example, instead of repeating stupid dogma which is a result of brainwashing by your government's propaganda?
@@nohbuddy1 If you don't understand the difference between liberty (in a political context it means absence of oppressive restrictions on your behavior/views/speech/insert whatever you want) and mechanism of transition of political power in a state (a legal procedure which determines who shall be in charge) - you shouldn't try to insult someone who understands. If you want to make a valid argument against my position (no political system is inherently closer or further to liberty than another) - you may try.
The Canadian libertarian looks like a cross between a used car salesman, J. Jonah Jameson, and a low level prosperity gospel preacher. While all his beliefs are completely wrong, i gotta admit, he got some bangin hair.
Well, that theory does explain the capitalism, the bigotry and the religion.
Libertarian arguments crumble like tissue paper simply by asking basic, relevant questions, like asking them to explain what their argument even is. Just ask that poopy pants lady why she is doing what she's doing. She has no answer. She has no argument.
I'm a Libertarian so feel free to ask me anything. Or don't and just admit you're a r-tard. And Kaitlyn isn't a Libertarian.
@@chris135x we get it, ur an idiot that would rather let society collapse than progress
Liberty Hangout: The "libertarians" that even libertarians dunk on.
"Right Libertarians want to go back to Absolute Monarchism" is that unspoken part that everyone knows but the group will never collectively admit because it'd spook the "normies".
Have you heard of Hoppeanism?
StarsOverStalingrad you mean just libertarianism but racist?
It is much easier for "normies" to accept monarchy rather than anarchy (which is even technically impossible in a society which has at least basic agriculture technology). Some modern countries are absolute monarchies. No technologically advanced society is anarchy in any form. And at least monarchy has some codified universal principles, which can be understood by most people.
And no, the idea that right libertarians want to restore monarchy is stupid. It is just a myth, similar to an idea that Jews secretely control the world or universities are overtaken by Marxist conspiracy.
@@endlesssolitaire731 Multiple agricultural societies were organized on Anarchist principles.
Theres literally a group of libertarians who are mask off feudalists lmao.
@@endlesssolitaire731 Also, anarchy has some codified universal principles... maybe try understanding anarchy before you come here to explain our own ideology to us?
every one of kaitlyn's videos is such a spectacular self-own that i could probably get genuinely invested in a conspiracy theory that she and her team are actually leftists doing some sort of sarcastic performance art to mock right wing libertarians ... if i were fortunate enough to know less about her and the various chuckleheads she associates with.
like the absolute scathing contempt of the girl who goes "uh, yeah, thats wrong too" when kait asks her elizabeth warren question, looking right at her in disbelief of what an idiot she is, i just literally cant imagine posting that and not feeling a little vulnerable about it
out of the libertarians my favorite has to be the ancaps who essentially just want corporate feudalism
Not libertarian.
That's not how feudalism works, yes ancaps are dumb, but socialists and Communists are even more stupid
@@JinjaOnHere yeah, violently overthrowing your government resulting in the deaths of hundreds, of not thousands of people is the best way to go about things.
@@toade1583 January 6th, 2021 would like a word, Mr. Self Aware.
@@toade1583 exactly
I hope these "libertarian Christians" know Jesus would be considered a leftist Jew by today's standards and would have HATED what they were doing :^)
What brings you to that conclusion?
@ Just based on the text of the bible Jesus was working class Jewish man who was anti-capitalism and constantly encouraging redistribution of wealth, essentially transient and surrounded by social outcasts, not to mention being executed because rich elites saw him as a threat. Harassing passer-bys on the street and being fine with poor people dying because of ~*the economy~* wasn't quite his gig.
My dad who is radical christian believes that,the only true communist that ever existed and will ever exist was Jesus Christ.
So yeah pretty accurate.
@@milkteamachine Did Jesus ever advocate for Governments being overthrown and replaced with Communist governments?
@Ye I think my dad when he says that,he means,communism in a perfect society,he opposes communism in reality because its unobtainable
"I believe in freedom. Also, the Great Replacement."
Everyday I become more and more glad that I ended up going a different path.
"If Kaitlyn wasn't doing this she would be doing bullshit at home in the most boring part of Ohio.". Kaitlyn and I are from the same region and it is not only the most boring part of Ohio but also the most boring part of the world.
6:02 "I'm Elizabeth Warren" ... That statement made me cringe in ways I didn't know I could cringe. God what thoughts ran through her head making her think that was a statement anyone would agree with.
@Gage Acosta oh yeah, I for sure agree that Warren should be memed on for that but nobody wearing a racist costume can really criticise
I thought the title said "Pointlessly Dunking on Librarians" and I was like, what? why?
"remember, no matter how bad things get - at least you're not putting videos on the internet where people are mocking you to your face about the time you shit yourself at a party" - words to live by.
here in my place in california rn, we are in a complete quarantine lockdown, my town has a curfew and most all shops and buildings are closed, my college is shut down, but my boss still has me signed up for full shifts for the forseeable future. gonna love capitalism amiright folks?
Good luck friend.
Don't meet other people, can't allow the virus to spread but do go to work where you'll meet about 245744799021115 other people - big brain capitalism
Here in my place in Rockland County I’m a personal assistant and I live with my boss and we have a small business and our employees had to stop coming into work and my boss is old and still trying to scrape by and make it happen and was scared he wouldn’t be able to pay our bills or payroll and so he kept working well past the suggestion to stop and now I’m sick and he’s sure to get sick and we’re stuck here together and I think I’m going to die
Does it make sense for you to work or not? What I mean is: Are you one of few nurses in a nursing home or are you someone who decorates store window for a giant department store that is currently closed and will be among the last to open up again due to only useless stuff being sold in it?
5:39 "says twitter? thats not the majority of the public" she says, while going out and showing that the majority of the public finds it offensive
I'm not saying that Jesus Christ would agree with me on everything I say, but we would be best of friends and trigger libertarians together.
CMH Buddy Jesus gives a thumbs up
if Jesus comes back...
i hope he smokes weed.
that would be perfect.
As a member of the Christcom gang, I am saying that.
Jesus was a rebel who ran around with a gang of friends, preforming miracles, telling the State to fuck off, and vandalizing banks.
He was based on an *incalculable* level.
@@firetarrasque4667 CHRISTCOM GANG
Fire Tarrasque Anarcho-Christian Communism
I live in Alabama, really needed this. Much love from Red State Hell-World
Thot Jesus Same. It’s hard being a leftist in a red state.
Living in Kentucky, I feel like I can relate to your struggle. Stay strong
I love red states! Oh wait, not that kind of red state.
It does amuse me that the Republicans have adopted red as 'their' colour. While they also shamelessly use 'red baiting' as a political strategy, without even the slightest hint of irony.
HOTTIE as I could imagine the opposite situation also being hard lol
Who says it's offensive? Uh... the people you're stereotypically dressing up as.
I'd like her to dress like that and then enter a reservation.
@@rafaelneumann8365 Lol, yeah. A lot of entitled people out there. I would like to think that some day we as a species would get passed bullshit, but, eh, we prolly won't make it that far.
“Wages have been stagnant for decades”
Yes this is a bad thing they should be raised
“This is the immigrants’ fault”
Wh… wait what. How’d ya get there, bud??
Because wages are entirely outside the control of those who pay them, and if someone accepts a below-poverty wage, that means they're deliberately trying to steal money from everyone else. Of course.
@@MolecularMachine Wages are not entirely outside the control of those who pay them. That's false.
@@DoctorOzelot It was sarcasm.
@@MolecularMachine *facepalm*
Thanks for the clarification :)
Yeah, how could anyone be stupid enough to think competition is destroying our economy?
Uh oh we did do an economy bad ._.
Just feeding the grumbletum
Banks a month ago: You can't pay your overdraft fee? Well tough luck sunshine, perhaps you should've thought about that before splurging on a pack of ramen!
Banks in a month: Hewwo government? Can we pretty please get another trillion? :(
@@HerrBjork Reading that in our Slimey Comrade's voice was super entertaining for a few seconds, before the fact that this is reality came washing back over me. Thanks for the few seconds at least
It's been a really tough week. I have a sick cat and a sick elderly family member, and I really didn't expect this video to cheer me up, but it actually genuinely did a lot. Thanks, Slimefriend!
"They made it a stink word for ding dongs" - I'm feeling better already.
I like the word "libertarian" because I can tell my right-o friends that I'm a left-libertarian and they'll listen to my opinions.
>coin a term to describe yourself accurately
>watch right wingers co-opt the term warping its meaning
>use it to infiltrate their ranks
>profit
@@TheChowitzer I second that.
When you speak of social (as in socialist or as in social democracy?) anarchists, what other anarchists do you have in mind who would not be social?
Actually Libertarian kinda sounds better to my ears.
@@xCorvus7x obviously ancaps don't count, but I was kind of referring to them. Some primitivist ideas as well are asocial for some reason.
@@TheChowitzer If these primitivists are anarchists, wouldn't they still fall under the scope of classical libertarianism?
And as far as "anarcho" capitalists are concerned, I wouldn't give them even that.
There is nothing anarchic about their ideas.
I love how what's his nuts says "this massive push for globalization" like every centerist-leftists got together in a meeting and we all voted for globalization (with the express motive to piss off the right, of course), and totally not understanding globalization as the inevitable consequence of colonialism.
That meeting was great though, they gave us free pizza!
>but what do I know? my beliefs are internally consistent
Not Jesus, but James 5:1-6 :
"Come now, you rich, weep and howl for the miseries that are coming upon you. Your riches have rotted and your garments are moth-eaten. Your gold and silver have corroded, and their corrosion will be evidence against you and will eat your flesh like fire. You have laid up treasure in the last days. Behold, the wages of the laborers who mowed your fields, which you kept back by fraud, are crying out against you, and the cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of hosts. 5 You have lived on the earth in luxury and in self-indulgence. You have fattened your hearts in a day of slaughter. You have condemned and murdered the righteous person. He does not resist you."
the cool part 4 years later is that in the end you didn't need that little asterisk in the beginning at all! how naive we were
i love how he's just slowly becoming the political fourth mcelroy brother
honestly they've both talked about garfield eats which is wild
I would kill for thought slime in mbmbam
It could be called mbmbmae(my brother my brother me and eyeballs)
The Mcelroys are shitlibs, Thought Slime is better than that.
@@ahorseofcourse7283 They don't talk about politics but Griffin seems pretty left compared to his brothers and "standard" liberals. He worked for Polygon and their video team who have made references to their more left views like wanting a cooperative and disliking capitalism. But I could be wrong. I just think they're funny.
tbh until that disclamer about what libertarian meant in america i thought this video was either a joke or something had gone wrong
The Canadian Libertarian looks like Caleb Maupin's doppelgänger
I read the title as "Dunking on Librarians" and I was very confused about what librarians had done to you
Libertarianism is astrology for men.
I hate how right you are
Robert Vaughn I don’t get this joke
Only difference is that astrology can sometimes be fun
Nah. Astology can be useful for life advice, whether it's "your sign's" or not. These guys however...Can't.
I think I never have seen a comment that true
You know, Canadian Libertarian is actually the first person I've heard who actually has that stereotypical Canadian accent that people assume all Canadians sound like.
I was just thinking that. I’ve lived here my whole life and he’s the only person I’ve ever heard actually say “aboot”.
gasp, the boomermensch
It's always important to recognize that dunking on people is rarely constructive. But I watched a bunch of constructive stuff before this and I'm very drained from people being terrible. So here I am
You can tell the "you won the prize" thing was something she came up with on the spot. The way she stumbled and sputtered to get it out, she thought of it five minutes before hand and REALLY thought it was a solid burn but it...wasn't. And it's so sad because you can see she's so proud of herself.
There are no libertarians in a pandemic.
Tell that to Candace "actually you don't have the right to survive a global pandemic" Owens
Sure there are. They have hundreds of thousands of bottles of hand sanitizer that no one will buy from them at a 50 times markup.
@@jeremyw9709 I don't think even she believes that shit. She's just a grade A grifter.
Mi.C *shes a dumbass grifter
@@AlRoderick Was just gonna say that. There's always a parasite
I work for Walmart. During the toilet paper craze we tried to limit people to 1 package per customer, but it came down from the higher ups that we can't do that, it isn't American. So we helped customers load entire pallets of toilet paper cases into their cars while being forbidden to even give them a dirty look for it, and afterwards we were abused by the people who just saw us doing that who don't understand that we have no say in the matter. But American capitalism is great.
I came back to this after spending an afternoon watching Nazis get punched. Honestly I didn’t think I could feel any greater joy, but then you put those Jesus quotes on screen and my heart just started singing.
That performance art comment by this random guy in that intro clip was pure gold. He was so done with them, I loved it
"If you liked the video, please wash your hands" Goddamn, TS kills me.
I'm literally taking a Macro-Econ class right now that the professor entirely teaches from a book written by two guys from the Cato Institute. I hate my life. They literally suggested that we'd be better off without a minimum wage. How is something this biased allowed in education??
Oh and all the predictable shit about how price gouging is actually good.
If anyone's curious, it's Private and Public Choice, 16th Edition, by Gwartney and Stroup.
Also the professor is a former successful wage stealer (Also known as "businessman" in some circles)
Oof. I took a micro-economics class that I got very frustrated about because of how oversimplified everything was, but I held on because the professor would occasionally just drop how research indicates that we don’t actually need growth, or how there are many different kinds of economic systems that aren’t just capitalism like we have.
Whenever a self-proclaimed libertarian mentions the "great replacement" theory, Ayn Rand menstruates in her grave.
???
I used to be a libertarian. Then I turned 14.
Not possible since you would be too young to consent.
I’m embarrassed to say the age at which I was no longer a libertarian lmao
@@gregkahuna1 If you're old enough to talk, you're old enough for some level of political awareness and hence ideology. Your reply was a non sequitur.
@@blarg2429 Now that is a non-sequitur. A 4-year old can talk but have no political ideology. Also, why are responding to a meme comment seriously?
@@gregkahuna1 I'm not saying that if you can talk you must have an ideology, or even that it is likely, merely that you can't just assume that someone is apolitical simply due to their being a child.
As for your "meme comment" defense, jokes aren't above criticism. Your joke wasn't funny, so I assumed it wasn't a joke at all. Knowing that it is, it's still not funny. I'm not upset or whatever, just saying that the thing you said was dumb in a way that humor doesn't excuse.
(right) Libertarians try not to be authoritarian challenge (99.9% impossible!?!?!!!!?)
"I'm a huge fan!"
"ARE YOU REALLY?"
"No..."
Perfect.