The cheapest capture cards money can buy... aren't always great ($20 Capture Cards Part 2)

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  • The recent influx of super cheap capture cards has some scratching their heads at the prices of mainstream capture cards, but the quality control and stability of features don't exactly hold up to the likes of Elgato and AVerMedia...
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    Today's capture card review is pretty fascinating. This capture card is the cheapest capture card you can buy, and is actually a worthwhile Elgato Cam Link alternative. I'm really not sure where this came from, but I'm sure glad it did.
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  • @huggi2
    @huggi2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This comment goes out to Lon & Epos Vox. Believe it or not, the videos you made about this product helped my family during a tough time. We had a family member pass away recently and we needed a way to broadcast the funeral service on zoom (on a budget) because the service had to have a limited amount of people due to COVID restrictions. This Capture card was on amazon prime for a reasonable price and I already had a camera that worked with HDMI out & a tripod. I ordered a microphone that hooked up to my laptop and I was good to go. You wouldn't believe how thankful my family members were when they were able to watch the funeral service live and be with us digitally through this tough time. Please know that youtubers like you may not have millions of subscribers but you make a big difference. Thanks to the both of you!

  • @InvictvsNox
    @InvictvsNox 4 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    I still can't thank you enough about that previous vid. That 15 dollar CC you recommended in the start of this video has been put between my camcorder and OBS for my workbench streams and works flawlessly.
    You saved me so much money in 5 minutes, thank you so much.

  • @DJEcKoSaKy
    @DJEcKoSaKy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    This video in 1440p60 is so extra crispy. I watched your intro like 5 times because I felt like one playthrough was not enough

    • @vrealon7738
      @vrealon7738 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Even better in 2160p60

    • @JanJanJanJanJanJanJanJanJan2
      @JanJanJanJanJanJanJanJanJan2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@vrealon7738 on a 1080p screen you'd need to watch it four times to get all the pixels

    • @xHadesStamps
      @xHadesStamps 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Higher resolutions than 720p exist?? (Feigns surprise). In all seriousness, I'd *love* to watch it in 4K, but on my tablet (and even my desktop PC) I'm sadly limited to 720p b/c of the displays. My laptop has a 1080p display, but unfortunately doesn't handle high performance tasks like watching videos well. By the time I have 4K, 12K will most likely be the *norm*

  • @azcomeazgo
    @azcomeazgo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I bought the "Can't Link" based on your previous video because I could not find any of the nicer ones in stock or without radical price gouging. It's been working great for me. Thanks!

  • @alsocheffrey
    @alsocheffrey 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I watched your last video about the cheap capture card right before buying the elgato camlink. And I honestly feel the exact same as you said... you get what you pay for.

  • @BryantFC
    @BryantFC 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have both this cheap one and a camlink4K, honestly as a secondary cam, it's the best bang for your buck. You can still swing it as your main cam feed but just dont expect magical wonders right out of the box. A little bit of color correction and sharpening via OBS def helps on the cheaper one.

  • @aaronpk
    @aaronpk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    that's quite a collection of videos playing on the tiny tv screens! I spot John Oliver and Caleb Pike...!

    • @EposVox
      @EposVox  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      :D

  • @Atis602
    @Atis602 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I bought the one mentioned at 1:40 for $13 from AliExpress. I was so impressed I bought a second one. Dirt cheap and basic does all I need.

  • @1maticactionsports286
    @1maticactionsports286 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I ordered the one from your previous video for 8.99 on Amazon. It comes this Saturday I can't wait, tired of recording game play with my cell then croping video in software👍

  • @m-sinan
    @m-sinan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I have that one with the cap and CD driver. Bought it couple years ago from someone on ebay for dirt cheap. But it is just garbage and e-waste :D I bought the other one 2.0 Cant-Link after I watched your video and it seems just fine for my purposes :) So thank you!

  • @1maticactionsports286
    @1maticactionsports286 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mines was just delivered and it's amazing. I ran my xbox 360 through to my cell using this usb capture. I downloaded a USB app from play store to run the capture card and I have otg cable. The results are amazing. I'm recording game play with sound and no latency on my cell😂😂😂😂 truly amazing, I spent 8.99 from Amazon but the one I got came in a black box named HDMI video capture with sound, its incredible

  • @DanAdamKOF
    @DanAdamKOF 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    “I would maybe not do the Cantlink because the latency is so terrible”, I think you meant to say another card since the Cantlink is one of the quicker cards

    • @Techobia
      @Techobia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If I use the digital audio and attach some mic like boya or rode lapel directly to DSLR and then use it, in this case, no such issues of latency

    • @JerridFoiles
      @JerridFoiles 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      This video confused the crap outta me and I think it's because he did so much mis-speaking...

    • @ahmed.helshanawany9425
      @ahmed.helshanawany9425 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i bought one of the "cantlink" and it works fine with the gopro 7 black
      it can input even 4K 30fps wich looks better than the 1080 even though the output is only 1080
      i could even read the audio from the gopro from the same capture card source on obs
      but there is some latency when you connect a different mic source which i fix it with the audio delay (it was about 3-4 frames around 100milliseconds )

    • @DaimyoD0
      @DaimyoD0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@JerridFoiles Yeah I think he misspoke, pretty sure he meant to say the "EZ Crap" was the one with really high latency, by contrast to the "Can'tLink" from the last video.
      5:45 "This one [EZ Crap] has 126 milliseconds of input latency. Compared to the like, 45[ms] that I measured in this one [Can'tLink]."

  • @stevehunt914
    @stevehunt914 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bloody Hell,.... the lighting in your room/video is incredible.
    Really nice effort!

  • @terencelyonsjr
    @terencelyonsjr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another great video Epos Vox. I actually have that "diamond in the rough" capture card that you showed at the end coming in the mail today. Your video made me have some hope for it lol

    • @JoshKaufmanstuff
      @JoshKaufmanstuff 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What card is it, did you get it yet?

    • @terencelyonsjr
      @terencelyonsjr 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JoshKaufmanstuff I got it today and just finished wiring it into my system. So far I am extremely happy with it. Hdmi in from ps4 hdmi out to display and usb3. 0 to pc. There seems to have almost no input delay at all. Can play in obs window if you really wanted. 4k60 in and loop out. 1080p out of usb. Instead of wiring the audio out to my pc I was able to just go into windows sound settings and enable listen to device to be able to get the audio to play through windows pc and use the same headphones I usually use while streaming. Still hear stream alerts and all. It was only $63! See link below
      www.amazon.com/dp/B0897JTDK1?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

  • @andresvaldevit3692
    @andresvaldevit3692 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Looking forward for the last device, the “diamond in the rough” one because I gotta buy one of these

    • @RADComputers
      @RADComputers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He posted it here: th-cam.com/video/LZnM6cip2lk/w-d-xo.html

  • @danthemode
    @danthemode 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love this reviews! Also i am sooo looking forward for the review of the last one you showed, as it is the one I have been thinking to get from amazon!

    • @RADComputers
      @RADComputers 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He posted it here: th-cam.com/video/LZnM6cip2lk/w-d-xo.html

  • @ryjelsum
    @ryjelsum 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    THANK YOU for showing the devices from all angles when you're talking about them. Sometimes the only way to figure out what exact model of chinese electronic crud you're looking at is to look at the minute product differences.

  • @90DaysOfDevOps
    @90DaysOfDevOps 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the summary is spot on, I actually picked up a cheap one and was maybe one of the lucky ones that got a good latency one, use case for me though was intrigued over an actual urge to stream anything, it would be a good idea if you just need a cam for your zoom calls but as you state none of these cheap ones make a good picture of the actual screen. Good stuff and keep up the content.

  • @8bit_coder
    @8bit_coder 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Note for anyone else having the capture card output mono 96khz audio, IT'S 48KHZ STEREO! There's a program called mono-to-stereo on github that fixes this exact issue and I can confirm that the capture card is outputting 48khz stereo audio, BUT it's interleaved and the channels are swapped at 96khz.

  • @JustinBae
    @JustinBae 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I reviewed that capture card that he brings up at 11:57! Variants of it are sold by many different people on Amazon and aliexpress, but the one I reviewed is the LEADNOVO one. I thought it was pretty good for only $60, and if you buy it, they actually send you a $20 gift card if you review their product and show them a screenshot of it on Amazon so it becomes essentially $40. Overall, I thought it was good for the price, but I'm super pumped to see your review of it!

  • @mannymakesmusic891
    @mannymakesmusic891 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Finally another educational vid for those who need it

    • @EposVox
      @EposVox  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's what I do!

  • @KCWM
    @KCWM 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I own two of the USB 2.0 devices, the "3.0 but is actually 2.0" device, and both an elgato HD60S+ and Cam Link 4k. I have only used them for Cam Capture.
    One of the USB 2.0 devices came from MavisLink on Amazon that came with an extension cable, was double the price, but is superior to the cheaper one I bought on eBay. I used the extension cable with the eBay device and it's USB connection was not dependable. I never had a single issue with the MavisLink version. That proves the QC is not consistent. The eBay version also had a slightly more washed out picture.
    The USB "3.0" version has been rock steady. I've used it on stream with a Canon HF20 camcorder and the Sony A5100 I use now. It handled both like a champ. I do stream at 720p, as a number of people do, and two people whose opinion I trust said it compared favorably to the HD60S+, but, again, that's at 720p and not 1080p.
    I do personally feel like my picture quality is crisper with the Elgato products, but at $25, especially at a 720p stream, I'd suggest the USB "3.0" device as a solid option until you can get a Cam Link 4k or HD60S.
    I am happy to answer any questions people might have, but EposVox's videos offer incredible info and I'd obviously defer to him.

    • @mauronedj
      @mauronedj 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      KCWM do you have the tint as he said in the video? If yes, did you manage to solve it in OBS directly? What settings do you use? (Talking about the 3.0 dongle)

    • @KCWM
      @KCWM 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mauronedj I don't recall there being a tint. I no longer use it. I just found the videos I that I still have up and that I used the dongle on and it's a bit washed out. If you find my channel on twitch (under kcwm...sorry for the self-promo...it's relevant), the oldest seven videos (from the two videos labeled "So many trees. Island Maintenance" to "Catching critters and fighting fish"), I was using the "USB 3.0" dongle for those videos. The video titled "Mystery Island tour with Ellie" is the first video where I used an Elgato HD60S+. I use a Sony a5100 for all of those videos. Should give you some real time examples. I didn't do anything special in Streamlabs OBS other than set up the Chroma settings.

  • @Jlpeaks
    @Jlpeaks 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought the 'Can't Link' version that has a HDMI passthrough and I'm reasonably pleased with it. It does 1080/30 and 720/60 fine. The one thing that is odd about it is how sensitive the ports are, once its all set up in OBS, If i dare move the device its likely to disconnected as if i yoinked the USB clean out.

  • @trowaclown
    @trowaclown 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Please, sir, I NEED to know where you got that t-shirt!

  • @TheREAPERBlog
    @TheREAPERBlog 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I got the first one you reviewed this year. It works pretty well for my camera as a backup. It takes a 4k signal and converts it to 1080p and doesn't look too horrible. But it looks really bad for computer to computer capture, if I can get a signal passed through at all. Not a good option for mac to capture pc setup.

    • @dracoxb
      @dracoxb 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The cant link?? So it does accept 4k input? I was worried about that. I wanna use a splinter so i can capture in 1080p and game in 4k, should it work then?

    • @davidturner880
      @davidturner880 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dracoxb The first one is the 3.0 cant link which can accept 4k input. The 2.0 cant link doesn't accept 4k.

  • @lal12
    @lal12 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I own all cheap capture cards as shown in the video (except the silver one) (and the black one at 11:57) and all of them worked without drivers for me, also the one at 7:24. Also every one of them had yuv for me. Though I work on linux not on windows.

    • @MemeScreen
      @MemeScreen 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      How is that black one? Is it any good?

    • @lal12
      @lal12 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MemeScreen all of them are black ^^

    • @MemeScreen
      @MemeScreen 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lal12 "the black one at 11:57

    • @lal12
      @lal12 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MemeScreen I currently use that one for digitalizing VHS tapes so I can't really tell how good the quality is for 1080p

  • @Guess_spl
    @Guess_spl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The one that you said you would review later is the one I have and for me it works well.

  • @MobileDecay
    @MobileDecay 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That video quality looked great to me. I can't see anyone complaining besides creators staring for artifacts. Lol.

  • @rocksntwigs
    @rocksntwigs 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The cheap plastic capture card is capturing S-Video. Internally it has a HDMI to S-video/composite converter chip that is directly wired into a S-Video/composite capture chip. I bought one and it never worked correctly, I couldn't even get VHS quality out of it, so I pulled it apart and looked up the chips. It's funny because it would have worked in theory, though it would have been VHS quality, but the one I got was broken.

  • @slbandre
    @slbandre 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oh my god, that intro is clean! Just like the video :)

  • @TechExploresNYC
    @TechExploresNYC 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am one of those who have it plugged in 24/7 with GoPro + Can'tLINK for zoom meetings and never missed a beat with sub 100ms lag, I made a video about it and my comment section were SWAMPED with tech support questions lol. Now I know why.

  • @TheOnlyTwitchR6
    @TheOnlyTwitchR6 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When are we getting the sequel?
    I was looking at that exact model at the end to gift to a friend.

  • @danmagoo
    @danmagoo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The cheap one (I got 4, sold as different brands) is a bargain, but its effectiveness depends on which app you're using it with. It's great with OBS or Zoom, for example, but laggy or no good with Discord or Microsoft Teams -- I'm guessing because of its limits in type of video it can produce. So it's not a true substitute for Elgato Camlink, which works with all of these, but....well worth the price nowadays. (If it's all you've got, you can use a virtual webcam to use the OBS video in other programs.) By the way, one of the 4 that I bought was no good, but the seller promptly replaced it with one that works fine, so....possible quality control issues.

  • @CallMeP1ink
    @CallMeP1ink 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly for me (not for anyone else) The $15 capture card is great value. I hear and see everyone complain about you cant display out to a screen at the same time, then just buy a cheap HDMI splitter. Remember TH-cam and twitch have compression. And a very minor color difference is not going to "kill" the over quality of this. Elgato is great but forget about paying $120 - $200 for the same thing but in true 1080p60. 720p60 is still good. I already know how someone is going to tell how I'm wrong. I'm not. I said "Honestly for me(not for anyone else)". Anyways great video as always. GN or GM wherever you are.

  • @swagar
    @swagar 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I saw RetroTINK's website link to your Cantlink video as a cheap option for 480p60, and that's exactly how I've been using it, albeit with a USB extension cable in case it overheats and fries something. I do use an S-video splitter rather than playing through the OBS preview or something, but the latency is low enough that when I goofily sing along to the game's music, it totally syncs up on stream.

  • @treierxyz
    @treierxyz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    There seems to be a new version of the Can'tLink released very recently that looks the exact same but supports 1080p60 through USB 2.0 (says 3.0 but the connector is just colored blue just like the EZ Crap) and comes in a coffee color. It's priced about the same. I just got my Can'tLink today and that works fine, but now I regret not waiting and "pontentially" getting the same capture card with 60fps support for almost the same price.

    • @TingFeng77
      @TingFeng77 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      1 year late reply but sadly it's just faking 60fps, it's essentially 30fps, with the frames duplicated to produce a fake 60fps

  • @dj-skip
    @dj-skip 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    just a question, I have the same one as yours that you first show and was so pleased with. Which software do you recommend to use for that. because I didn't get any CD or software with it.

  • @SimplyRocco
    @SimplyRocco 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just got a black box version of the silver you have. I'd like you to watch my review on it when I get it up. So far I tested it with capturing Mobile Phone games which seemed pretty good. I also realized for this smaller capture links you either need external audio as you stated, but I was also able to get audio but it was in mono. The box version was in stereo.

  • @mechanicallydev4536
    @mechanicallydev4536 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    If someone is having bad resolution on the can't link using a camera, I had this issue with my T3i.
    The problem is that it doesn't EDID handshake (procedure equipment use to tell each other which resolutions they support) and defaults to the camera liveview resolution (720x480 on my Canon T3i).
    I solved this issue using a cheap HDMI splitter between them (camera connected to the splitter, which outputs to the capture card). Now it works at FullHD :)

  • @GrimmsDeath
    @GrimmsDeath 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    what I'm hearing is if you want to stream console games but don't have a means to do so, the USB 2.0 one from the previous video is great as an entry device. I only am looking because i own a Switch and sometimes my buddy likes to watch me stream games but when playing the Switch, I can't stream it and quality doesn't have to be spot on. I'm not expecting to blow up and become the next Ninja, I just want to play games and stream them for friends.

  • @jackson7039
    @jackson7039 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I ended up buying a version of the can'tlink labelled "video capture with loop". It has an extra hdmi output for connecting a monitor, so you don't have to play off of the preview. It seems to be the same quality as the can'tlink, so it might be more worthwhile for some people. (It looks similar to the can'tlink, so probably the same internals as well)

    • @jackson7039
      @jackson7039 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      (Oh, and I had to return it the first time around because they forgot to include the actual device in the box...)

    • @jackson7039
      @jackson7039 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      (And, the included USB cable was really flakey, but a replacement one worked fine.)

  • @walteewartooth6860
    @walteewartooth6860 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think it's important to note that with a lot of the cheaper cards you can't run multiple of them in the same PC. After the last video I bought 4 of the same cheap capture cards for some "split-screen" streams with 4 different consoles, but OBS will only pick up the video from one card at a time.
    After the video quality being fine on the one console I decided to buy 3 other cheaper capture cards and try my luck, all with the same issue despite being different brands and designs. All worked perfectly when the only device plugged into my PC or using the "deactivate" on all capture cards in OBS and then "activate" on the specific console you want.
    I'm guessing this is due to the plug and play ability and them not having specific drivers.
    But yeah, no good if you wanted multiple cheap capture cards running on the same PC at the same time.

    • @EposVox
      @EposVox  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh, strange, plenty of people confirmed they could use multiple on the same PC from the last video heh

    • @walteewartooth6860
      @walteewartooth6860 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EposVox Interesting. I wonder if it's something I've somehow overlooked in settings of OBS or something.
      I tried all combinations of capture cards on 2 different PCs and had the same issue so assumed it was a universal thing.
      Ended up using a weird combination of different NDI sources from different machines until I bought some Elgato HD60 S' that were able to work with multiple on the same PC.

    • @8bit_coder
      @8bit_coder 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@walteewartooth6860 Actually I think it's because you're reaching the USB 2.0 bandwidth limit on your system's usb controller chip. That's also a problem with USB 2.0, since every computer has the same 40 megabytes per second per each usb controller for usb 2.0, which means you can probably only use two at a time UNLESS you are using different USB controllers(ie pcie usb 3.0 expansion card) but aside from that, you can also try USB 3.0 splitters, since they take everything and mush it into a usb 3.0 stream(which has worked better for me before)

    • @walteewartooth6860
      @walteewartooth6860 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@8bit_coder Hmm... I need to look into that some more. I have 2 PCI-E USB expansions cards in one of my PCs already, just can't think which USB ports I was plugging the capture cards into. Thanks for the info.

    • @meeasy123
      @meeasy123 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm curious if this cheaper capture card captures the audio from the camera and brings it into OBS for streaming. What's your experience?

  • @tomdchi12
    @tomdchi12 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I realize that "streamers" are all about streaming their screen. I am not a streamer, so I was pretty disappointed that Panasonic's "update" was just the ability to display the camera-over-wifi preview "clean" without overlays so that you could then stream from screen capture. (Unless I've missed an update.). As for the $8/$15/$20 "cantlink" I got one and it's... fine. It gets 1080 HDMI into the computer so I can use and/or capture what's coming off my GH5 or other camera.

    • @EposVox
      @EposVox  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep, Panasonic's was the most disappointing of the bunch. They all just use tethering previews, but not building in a webcam driver was a mistake

  • @VeritronX
    @VeritronX 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought the cantlink and the usb3 version.. no complaints, the price is right.

  • @IanDeVos
    @IanDeVos 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have the first one of this video. Bought it for about 10 euros. I still need to test it with my camera because I'm waiting for the mini HDMI cable. I'm not really concerned with the lag as I will just use it for livestreaming DJ sets for fun.
    Delaying the audio should fix that, no?
    Can you delay other video sources in OBS too or not?

  • @STNG17-
    @STNG17- 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you share link to the shop selling your shirts? They're pretty cute, I like it!

    • @EposVox
      @EposVox  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      www.designbyhumans.com/shop/all-over-mens-t-shirt/sugar-arcade-hyperpink/623908/?trk_msg=K01HBUSFSEU41EHEESBA0ENUL8&trk_contact=8GBNA0N2DE56QO1BB0AONCDS34&trk_module=tra&trk_sid=1J1H1KN7RN5PUFA0MOMCK9NUGS&Listrak-Transactional&Email&View+Product&Purchase+Confirmation

    • @STNG17-
      @STNG17- 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EposVox Thanks!

  • @CoffeeScribe
    @CoffeeScribe 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    LOL, love your shirt! haha. Great video... Thanks!

  • @Djckw2
    @Djckw2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    OOOooo I love your shirt man! Where did you get it??

  • @doomkid360
    @doomkid360 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    BRO that shirt is SO CLEAN !!!

  • @PoizenJam
    @PoizenJam 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I purchased the Silver one recommended in this video (7:55 sold under the LinkFor brand now) and was disappointed to find I could not at all achieve good picture quality. The one I received is not USB 3.0 capable (confirmed using USBTree viewer on two different devices), and could not deliver decent quality images whatsoever. I used it to capture Switch footage, but the resulting image is just completely janky and full of image artifacts.
    Don't know what could have changed, but it is definitely not a recommended product now.

  • @OdisMilkGTV
    @OdisMilkGTV 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid. If I was looking to buy a capture card I’d just save up for one of the more expensive ones.

  • @ThisUploaded
    @ThisUploaded 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That is a very very very slick new intro

  • @Utkarsh_A
    @Utkarsh_A 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for this, I have to use a webcam for work and Uni conferences and I don't wanna buy a webcam when I have a perfectly good A7S that I can use

  • @akhidan
    @akhidan 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    that intro hit different

  • @Augmintt
    @Augmintt 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So the diamond in the rough mentioned at the end ....????

  • @Maxim_BornDivided
    @Maxim_BornDivided 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey EposVox!
    What do you think about the TKHIN Capture Card USB-C ? Seems really good for the price and USB-C is very appealing.

    • @EposVox
      @EposVox  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s the same as all the cheap $5-50 “cant links”. It has USB C but it’ll only be 2.0 speeds and only mjpeg and not any better

  • @DaveOTech
    @DaveOTech 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    From my experience none of these are 60fps. So far I have purchased 3 different brands, and all seem to be 30fps sampled twice. frames 1-2 are the same, frames 3-4 are the same, frames 5-6 are the same and so on.

  • @ArsenioDev
    @ArsenioDev 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting, I kinda wanna do a deep dive technical look at the other ones. I'm interested in how the hell they do signal chains and what EDID/EEPROM code they have in them.

  • @AJCoReTV
    @AJCoReTV 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok I got this for $23 on eBay lol I’m using it to stream Nintendo switch on OBS.. my source settings in OBS for the crap link is 720/60, then I kept my OBS stream/video output setting as 1080/60... and the result was excellent! So is it worth $23? Heck yes! I just wish it natively outputted @ 1080/60, as it leads you to believe on the product page. lol owell... Camlink still costs over $200+

  • @M3lk1n
    @M3lk1n 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Got that dongle card just for 2.5$. Won the dispute on aliexpress, because it's usb 2.0 and doesn't support 1080p60fps, so 10$ was refunded

  • @Draven2k
    @Draven2k 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So the latency from these capture devices does that only effect the stream or does it transmit to the monitor so you get latency while gaming and streaming?

    • @xHadesStamps
      @xHadesStamps 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The HDMI output on the ones with it is, passthrough, so stream only.

    • @Draven2k
      @Draven2k 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@xHadesStamps Thanks mate

  • @thevmediagroupgaming
    @thevmediagroupgaming 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's a bummer about the 3.0 version of that 2.0 adapter. I was hoping to get a few more frames with that "better" version. That being said, I had to add 233ms of delay on my audio using a GoPro Hero 3+ as the camera. It still works great, so not a big deal.

  • @derrickgott007
    @derrickgott007 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought a $20 HDMI audio break out box and low and behold the L/R were swapped inside. So I had to use 3.5mm to RCA cables and flip it. Ugh. These $20 white box parts need to go away.

  • @billfreeman5201
    @billfreeman5201 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is fair to say that there will always be differences in quality, even between well known brand names doing the same thing.
    The fact that many reviews are showing that a dirt cheap solution can do a more than adequate job just goes to show how vastly overpriced the likes of Elgato are and they are going to be very worried right now because as it stands, 1080p@60fps can be had for $11.
    It is only a matter of time before a 4K possible solution is produced for not that much more.
    Many competitors will now also be seeing a gap in the market that will allow the to take the chips used on these cards and adapt the enclosures and other aspects to make functionality more versatile and add other audio capture options such as Dolby 5.1 now that the patent has expired.

    • @EposVox
      @EposVox  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      There's nothing "more adequate" any of these cheap cards do over the name brand ones.
      Also virtually none of the 11 dollar ones actually do 1080p60. They claim do but don't actually do it
      Also while existing cards can pass through 4k as shown here, it's impossible to actually capture 4k60 over USB unless you're willing to limit accessibility to only USB 3.2 gen 2x2 20gbps ports, which veyy few users have

    • @billfreeman5201
      @billfreeman5201 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EposVox The other reviews that I have seen show 60fps capture, not that you need it because people don't watch 60fps TV shows or movies, so to showcase a capture, on TY etc, 30fps is more then adequate. And it's not a case of them doing anything OVER the brand ones but of doing a credible enough job to show the the likes of Elgato have been and continue to be very poor value for money. Nobody has suggested capturing 4K over anything such as USB 2.0 but over a better standard, it would be possible.The fact that remains is that what the very cheapest of these devices will do for the average user is a real threat to the likes of Elgato and it shows a spotlight on their pricing structure. This will not go away quickly and they should be worried.

    • @EposVox
      @EposVox  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just to be clear: 4k60 capture is not possible over any current well-adopted USB standard. The only option is a super niche USB 3.2 gen 2x2 port that virtually no one has, or Thunderbolt 3, which virtual no one has.
      Or to pre-compress it like the 4k60s+ does and end up with unusable latency.
      These capture cards can sort of get the job done, but do not hold up to the level of quality, consistency, quality control, reliability nor product support available from name brand cards.

    • @billfreeman5201
      @billfreeman5201 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EposVox But 4K is, with 30fps being quite adequate. None of these, that you describe as knock offs are not advertised as or pretend to be such. When I see the output, which is the most important aspect of capture, the difference, in terms of what I believe will be so minor as not to matter, even using MJPEG. These whole discussions came about after none other than a NASA Engineer purchased one because he too could not believe that anything so cheap could do a good job, which it did. If you take what one can do and compare it with the industry leader, it naturally raises reasonable questions about the value of the leader. Time will tell but I'll bet that there are tens pf thousands of these being sold, taking money away from the more expensive options and as they are also so popular, you just now that somebody will be working on something a little better and more versatile at a very low cost. It's great that you run multiple ones through their paces to see what dogs there are out there and to point out differences that allow people to be better informed. I would just be a little careful about the whole 'you pay what you get for' aspect as there is some incredible value out there as well as expensive brand names where the quality does not match the price being asked. It can, as another poster on here stated, potentially make you seem like an Elgato employee or affiliate attempting to steer people clear of something in favour of one that you might be too close too. Reputation is everything these days it seems and whilst the lure of sponsorship can be highly appealing, it can have a backlash effect at times. Keep up the good work as some of your videos are highly informative and useful.

    • @EposVox
      @EposVox  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nothing about what I say in these videos has anything to do with potential sponsorship and I don't take direct sponsorships for capture cards to prevent that from being an issue. So inherently I've made far more on affiliate link revenue of sales of these cheap cards than elgato or AVerMedia will ever directly pay me to be positive about their capture cards.
      You can't have "great for the price" for a dirt cheap item without "you get what you pay for." they go hand in hand

  • @goddyab
    @goddyab 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What camera are you using as the main Camera, on this Video, the Focus is kind of fast, I thought you are using Lumix gh5s but that focus was good, am not sure if you change camera?

    • @EposVox
      @EposVox  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A6400

    • @goddyab
      @goddyab 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      EposVox thanks for the quick reply sir, I knew it! That was too fast, Lumix GH5S can’t focus that fast

  • @David-ng7gp
    @David-ng7gp 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I actually have that USB Capture Device.. But you see that program you where using to test it, the one at 5mins ish.. What is that called? Looks like it could be handy. Thanks in advance

  • @TheOnlyTwitchR6
    @TheOnlyTwitchR6 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not sure why yours had 126ms of input lag, I have the same Fake USB 3.0 model myself and mine is probably closer to 70ms's.
    I have to add about 33-35ms's of delay to my live gamer 4k to get frames to sync up together.
    (Methodology: I used an hdmi splitter and sent video to both Live Gamer 4k, and Fake 3.0. OBS delay set to the live gamer of 33ms's, recorded and playback in slowmo)

  • @AkibanaZero
    @AkibanaZero 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been using the Cantlink to capture my Sony a5100 for a couple of months now and it's been pretty decent I have to say. I had to adjust audio latency on my broadcasting app (which could be because I have it connected to a USB 3.0 port, not sure if that matters) but the image quality works quite well. I stream 720p at 30 fps as an fyi. I'm quite certain I've been lucky as it hasn't crapped out on me yet but even if it did, I would attempt to buy at least one more because it's so damn cheap. You do get what you pay for, that's no lie. But a Camlink at over $100 is also completely overbudget even for someone who already happens to own a camera that outputs clean HDMI. A dongle like the Cantlink made by a quality company that can output 1080/30 and 720/60 and not be a chunky bastard I think would be reasonable at $40-50.
    Edit: The card you teased, I've seen it floating around ebay quite a bit. I'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts before I pull the trigger.

  • @BenConsolegamer
    @BenConsolegamer 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Should I buy this for my PS4 slim? Great vid by the way!

  • @Nikon_
    @Nikon_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    i bought this capture thing about a month ago. and to me it works as you would expect a £10 capture card to be. the only thing with your review that isnt the same to mine. im not getting the 133ms delay as you said. yes the delay is there but it defo isnt 133ms. id say on mine its about 50 to 40 ms of delay.

  • @technic8295
    @technic8295 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just bought a cantlink and it’s coming tomorrow keep you updated

  • @BladeBlur
    @BladeBlur 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm still looking for a 4k passthrough card with OSSC support for a laptop. One day...

    • @EposVox
      @EposVox  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Live Gamer Ultra, Magewell's usb capture HDMI 4K+ LT

  • @FatalFlaw
    @FatalFlaw 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    For the love of all things holy... please PLEASE REVIEW THE DIAMOND IN THE ROUGH SHOWN @ 11:57

    • @xHadesStamps
      @xHadesStamps 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      He said he will in a future video.

  • @newlife4eva115
    @newlife4eva115 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice T shirt 😃, still doesnt beat the purple 🤪

    • @EposVox
      @EposVox  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      omg

    • @newlife4eva115
      @newlife4eva115 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EposVox Nah seriously, very nice t shirt, it looks like youre wearing a cornflakes box🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @WelshDdraig
    @WelshDdraig 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My "Can't Link" (The fake USB 3 one) basically crapped itself recently. It works, but only occasionally and not for much time (like maybe 30 minutes if I'm lucky), and the audio capture is non-existent for me (even with an audio source set in OBS). So it went in the bin.
    It was good while it lasted, but you get what you pay for... although I'll probably get another one, just not the "Can't Link 3.0" and maybe the original one from your first video (If I can find one).

  • @retropetroleum
    @retropetroleum 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My cantlink randomly started displaying that the USB device is not recognized... it also started heating up really badly. Ive stopped using it out of fear it'll melt my USB port

  • @NerdSpotoficial
    @NerdSpotoficial 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought one of the cheap options from the link in your other video about this. Well......at least didn't work with my Canon 70D (i want it just for facecam). It keeps capturing only 480p. I don't know if it is beacause of some 70 limit (HDCP for example) or it is just beacause the capture card is another Easy Crap LoL
    Now i'm waiting for my AverMedia LGP Lite GL310 hoping it works haha
    Thanks for the video!

  • @posthumanistpotato
    @posthumanistpotato 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm feeding mirrored HDMI outputs from 2 computers into a laptop which is streaming to twitch as a VR split-screen. Is it safe to assume I could hook both of these into a laptop feed them the HDMI output and use Twitch Studio or OBS Studio to take the 2 sources? It seems like it would work, but I don't know if using 2 on one machine would cause any conflict.

    • @posthumanistpotato
      @posthumanistpotato 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The answer is YES this works! Hell, I even hooked up a 3rd one and now I have my little Luminex camera streaming as well :) What a crazy little device :D

  • @sarys73
    @sarys73 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You said the Can'tlink was the 2nd best latency in the last video, and here at around 11:35 you said the Can'tlink latency was horrible. Did you mean the Easycrap?

    • @EposVox
      @EposVox  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Indeed I did

  • @musitude7121
    @musitude7121 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    With my Sony A5100 I'm using the Cantlink one I got for £28 and returning my Elgato Camlink that I paid £120 for here in the UK.
    I'm happy to stream in 30fps b just concerned that MJPEG is not as good as YUY2 as you mentioned some issues in artifacting and a green hue to the picture. I'm a bit colour blind and don't have a great eye for picture quality so can't do a comparison between the two before I return it and wonder if I will be putting out an inferior picture with the Cantlink or if it will not even be noticeable.

  • @nishanthreddy3123
    @nishanthreddy3123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    can we use for mobile streaming

  • @sithwarrior
    @sithwarrior 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    i think its unfair to use the full vs partial on xbox one since the full option is broken when you compare it to the PS4.

  • @bartoszm84
    @bartoszm84 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Epos maybe you could say something about building second pc for streaming. How good it should be (how many cores), ram etc. Maybe its just all about capture card while pc spec is preety much irrelevant?. Do capture card require some sort of fan or cooling to be reliable?. Is it better (in terms of latency) to put capture card into primary pcie graphics slot going directly to cpu?.

  • @alphaskeli3524
    @alphaskeli3524 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does the knockoff camlink work on xbox?

  • @johnhilliard9517
    @johnhilliard9517 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have just found your channel while searching info on capture cards. OMG what a mindfield. Help. I want to use my surface 3 as a monitor for my video camera Nikon Z6. because i where glasses, the bigger the picture the better. also don't want to spend a fortune. can you recommend a good video capture card for this purpose. your help would be much appreciated

  • @PE4Doers
    @PE4Doers 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you measure latency?

  • @iyachawlinglawching
    @iyachawlinglawching 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this video very helpful 🥰

  • @dopedoh-homer
    @dopedoh-homer 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which of all the "cheap" capture cards would you recommend at the moment Adam? im just interested in having a cheap alternative as a recommendation for some friends.

    • @michan6705
      @michan6705 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      In description, the can't link.

  • @AndreYoshinoriOta
    @AndreYoshinoriOta 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    the latency in the supercheap usb capture card is determined by usb speed, just try different ports.. mine became soo low using a 3.0 port even not working as a proper 3.0 card

    • @EposVox
      @EposVox  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, which is why I try the same ports w/ every card. If the same port is fast on one card and not the other, the port is not the problem

  • @retropcscotland4645
    @retropcscotland4645 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    -Elshitto- are over priced regardless. Makes me think you getting a back hander for putting down the cheaper ones.

    • @billfreeman5201
      @billfreeman5201 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Initially I wondered the same but his own video on the cheapest one was quite positive really. Others do see not to be quite as good, even though not that bad really when you take into account the vast differences in cost.

    • @retropcscotland4645
      @retropcscotland4645 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@billfreeman5201 Well his very next video sponsored by -elgato- said it all for me.

  • @coreysanders6709
    @coreysanders6709 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey comments section!
    Have any of you tried the "Can'tLink" alongside a webcam to get two video feeds simultaneously in OBS? I can't seem to get mine to work that way. I was hoping to use my webcam (logitech c525) to do face cam, and use the Can'tLink to grab content. It appears that OBS is recognising both of them as webcams, so I can't display both at the same time, and if I switch back and forth between them, the Can'tLink sometimes just falls off and doesn't display. My work around has been checking the "deactivate this source when not in use" option for the video capture/webcam capture in OBS, but that means I get an annoying 1-ish second blank transition time when switching between scenes. Anybody else experienced this and have any tips?

  • @teddbundygaming397
    @teddbundygaming397 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    the cantlink is $10 in my area

  • @NirnBootMod
    @NirnBootMod 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    funny thing is a few years ago i had to install that garbage software cd to get composite out of a VHS camcorder and the software didnt even work lol.

  • @ΤασοςΜ-δ5β
    @ΤασοςΜ-δ5β 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dear driend , which program do you use ?

  • @xWood4000
    @xWood4000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got the first one "working" in 1080p60 in amcap but I highly doubt that it is 1080p60 (downloaded it from the internet)

    • @EposVox
      @EposVox  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🤔

    • @ungku23
      @ungku23 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have the first one working at 1080p/60fps working fine for me in obs. Its capturing my dslr full HD 60 output straight out of the box. No drivers needed.

    • @xWood4000
      @xWood4000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ungku23 Weird, my dlsr definitely sends 60 but OBS only sees 30 with MJPEG and color space 601

    • @ungku23
      @ungku23 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@xWood4000 obs detected 60fps from what I can see. Maybe I am not seeing it right. How do you know if you are getting 60fps? I don't see much latency like what eposvox is facing. How can I test this?

    • @xWood4000
      @xWood4000 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ungku23 Huh, very weird. I don't even get the option in OBS, and it definitely doesn't look like 60p by eye, but may just be frame drops

  • @Sebanisu
    @Sebanisu 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got this and a hdmi splitter. Seems to work okay. Though I only ran a couple tests with my playstation 4.

  • @reginaldivanstudios
    @reginaldivanstudios 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a Lumix G7 and just want to live view while recording so that I know I'm in focus. Unfortunately, with the G7 you can only accomplish live view with an external recording monitor. I seen you use the CamLink4k in another video and thought I solved my problem. Until I realized the price skyrocketed! Are there any other video capture cards that can output in 4k with quality similar or better to the CamLink? or can I buy a card that down samples to 1080 then upscale it to 4k in Davinci?

  • @MasterTurkey
    @MasterTurkey 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I came for the intro and stayed for the easy crap.

  • @316whatupz
    @316whatupz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Never heard of mjpeg before. Is it better than mp4?

  • @BorsukenSlayer
    @BorsukenSlayer 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought four EasyCrap capture cards and for simple livestream tutorial they have been good enough. But sure you get what you pay for.

    • @BorsukenSlayer
      @BorsukenSlayer 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I needed to add a 55 millisecond audio delay in OBS in order for the audio and video to sync up, is that good, normal or bad?

    • @DanAdamKOF
      @DanAdamKOF 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BorsukenSlayer A good capture card should have them both matched up. So not normal, but probably not alarming due to the cheapness.