Hook Grip for the Deadlift | On the Platform

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  • Rip explains the use of the hook grip for deadlifts and why its use is preferred to other common grips.
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  • @PastFailure
    @PastFailure 8 ปีที่แล้ว +597

    I tried using hook grip the other week because I hated having one hand supinated and my max deadlift went from 475 to 185

    • @xelhaku
      @xelhaku 8 ปีที่แล้ว +138

      be optimist 185 is your hookgrip PR 1 rep max

    • @ocara50000
      @ocara50000 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      J Lee straps plus double over hand?

    • @Anonymous-ld7je
      @Anonymous-ld7je 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      J Lee I can only deadlift 365 and I did 245×5 my first time ever doing the hook grip today. It was uncomfortable but not terrible or anything. I think you're doing something wrong, man. It takes time to build up but it shouldn't hurt that severely. Make sure you're running your thumb PARALLEL to the bar and not UP the bar if that makes sense. You want the bar to be pressing your thumb between itself and your fingers, not feeling like it's going to be ripped off because your thumb is being yanked from being pointed up.

    • @PassportG
      @PassportG 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol

    • @Jorghinio1
      @Jorghinio1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      whahahahahaha !!!

  • @GwasBro
    @GwasBro 7 ปีที่แล้ว +173

    4:15 my man fell asleep, woke up, then realized he was still holding the bar.

  • @Necrosis88
    @Necrosis88 8 ปีที่แล้ว +467

    Brienne of Tarth

    • @ksm6717
      @ksm6717 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      lol

    • @TheHaiku2
      @TheHaiku2 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Damn.

    • @tfun101
      @tfun101 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Dead 😂💀

    • @jwnot3s447
      @jwnot3s447 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was wondering wtf you talking about then looked at the guy, and started laughing.🤣🤣

    • @user-hc5et2jj4t
      @user-hc5et2jj4t 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I opened this video to see if I could find this comment. Not disappointed.

  • @dj_314
    @dj_314 8 ปีที่แล้ว +117

    That smirk @3:45

  • @SeriffinThe
    @SeriffinThe 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The video very nicely explained finger positioning, the middlefinger on thumbnail part helped me a lot. Thanks a lot.

  • @kier06
    @kier06 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Excellent video and right when I needed it!

  • @AndrewArifakis
    @AndrewArifakis 8 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    Thank you based Rippetoe

  • @sbburris
    @sbburris 8 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Great timing. I've been debating dropping the mixed grip. I'll give this a go tomorrow morning.

    • @alhazenali4819
      @alhazenali4819 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      5 years now. Has anything changed?

    • @Nagutama
      @Nagutama 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The people demands an answer

  • @Hossak
    @Hossak 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The other issue I have with over/under hand grip is that I find that my right elbow become sore. One disadvantage I have is that I am missing a part of my right hand little finger so the double overhand grip (normal) is significantly weakened since it happened (over a year ago). Will start practicing the hook grip.

  • @boxerfencer
    @boxerfencer 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for sharing!

  • @EricFisher.TheVillages
    @EricFisher.TheVillages 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for clarifying how to perform this grip for me. I can see the value of the hook grip but I have short fingers and can't seem to reach it on a standard bar.

  • @PartyChicken407
    @PartyChicken407 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Thanks.

  • @FCarraro1
    @FCarraro1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    couldn't wait to know how to use the hook GRIIIAHP

  • @mgtm
    @mgtm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thanks Rip! Now I combine alternating grip with the hook grip and can deadlift 810 KGs.

  • @laluswoldeselassie2668
    @laluswoldeselassie2668 ปีที่แล้ว

    very helpful, thank you

  • @Obsidian1392
    @Obsidian1392 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video

  • @clementaugustine6493
    @clementaugustine6493 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sir Mark ☝

  • @xenothonstelnicki597
    @xenothonstelnicki597 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the hook grip!

  • @filippolach5074
    @filippolach5074 7 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I guess they call him Mark rip a toe for a reason ...

    • @andrewsong7760
      @andrewsong7760 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Filip Polách thumb /= toe

    • @filippolach5074
      @filippolach5074 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Andrew Song yea idk why they got it wrong

    • @CaptainYesz
      @CaptainYesz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mark Rip A Thumbs

  • @samuelsontraining
    @samuelsontraining 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Brienne of Tarth got that strength

  • @badgerkitteh
    @badgerkitteh ปีที่แล้ว

    Mixed grip DL Hasn't worked for me because I only grab the bar with one hand at a time. Thanks Rip!

  • @tjssjt296
    @tjssjt296 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Little Smile after Rippetoe tickled his fancy 3:43

  • @markissac133
    @markissac133 8 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Dude Chase looks like Brienne of Tarth, from Game Of Thrones. No offense meant, obviously.

    • @Horus-Lupercal
      @Horus-Lupercal 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mark Issac That's pretty dope tbh. I'm sure he won't mind lol.

    • @markovendetti9704
      @markovendetti9704 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What's game of thrones?

  • @malcolmhales8181
    @malcolmhales8181 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I tried this hook grip for the 1st time today in the gym. Although I found it very uncomfortable, it allowed me to lift a PB on my dead lift 😁.

  • @samlodestro2850
    @samlodestro2850 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I have rather large hands, is it acceptable (since I am capable of it) to place my ring finger over the thumb as well?

    • @mvyper
      @mvyper 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sam LoDestro if it works, do it. I grip my thumb with my middle and ring fingers, and it works magics. ;)

    • @Horus-Lupercal
      @Horus-Lupercal 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good idea, I've got big old sausage fingers lol.

    • @hellowill
      @hellowill 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      for me 2 fingers (i.e. what he showed) kinda hurts, with 3 fingers (I got big boy hands too) it feels great.

    • @zekrinealfa1113
      @zekrinealfa1113 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, the more fingers you can get over the thumb the better. Some weightlifter let their thumb nail grow longer to be able to get three fingers on the thumb.

  • @jag831
    @jag831 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I found that my pinky and anular fingers are very weak, so I end up holding the barbells with the other 3 fingers. Will the hook grip help me with my "outer" fingers strength?

    • @wearebodybuilding19
      @wearebodybuilding19 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Armando Gómez I have no use of my left pinky so im pulling with 3 fingers like you on one hand..grip is piss.. so I switched to alternate and now im pulling more having the crap hand reversed..grip gave out on 160kgs hooked...latest since alternate..240kgs and climbing..smash it!!!!

    • @philhorrocks1038
      @philhorrocks1038 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      It won't help with the outer finger strength, but it'll allow you to basically take those fingers out of the equation so they won't be a limiting factor anymore

  • @gysteel6650
    @gysteel6650 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    mmm hook grip takes awhile to get used to... i found having a cup of concrete usually solves any problems youll have with it

  • @bragiodinsen4604
    @bragiodinsen4604 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    setting up with straps is fucking up my working sets, gonna make the switch. RIP thumbs.

  • @deadcakesandpanlifts2019
    @deadcakesandpanlifts2019 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    my fingers just slide off my thumb im hook grip unless i use a shitton of chalk. Anyone else have that problem?

    • @NoahsAsylum0137
      @NoahsAsylum0137 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not really, maybe your fingers are either to short, or you have sweaty hands. Id probably lean towards the sweaty hands if I had to guess. Nothing wrong with using chalk either way, unless your gym is a bitch about it.

  • @MedicineRunner
    @MedicineRunner 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Are there Any long term risks with the thumb besides callouses while using this?

    • @startingstrength
      @startingstrength  8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      +Lance Hare Nope. Not if you do it right.

    • @stevemf11
      @stevemf11 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There's been no studies, this is a new style of grip so no one could know until a doctor releases a study.

    • @LigmaMale69
      @LigmaMale69 8 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      How is it new exactly? Hasn't it been used for quite a while in weightlifting?

    • @grumpycat9065
      @grumpycat9065 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      +Steve Used in Olympic lifts so it's not new. New to powerlifting but not weight training overall.

    • @CrniWuk
      @CrniWuk 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The risk is increased grip strength, your girl will notice it if you havn't strangled her accidently. A very serious risk!

  • @josephwolensky2685
    @josephwolensky2685 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video! Next time let that girl in the background know your'e filming ;)

  • @jd0879
    @jd0879 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It depends on your goals of course but if someone has no desire to compete just use straps. No need to break your thumbs with this grip

    • @hipdrive
      @hipdrive 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hook grip for 2+ years now and my thumbs are completely healthy and working

  • @metalisthelaw2339
    @metalisthelaw2339 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a question. When we use the hook grip and the mixed grip, we are using friction to keep the bar in our hands, rather than actual grip strength. So why not just use straps? since they employ friction also. What's the difference?

    • @cmdrfunk
      @cmdrfunk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      everyone will look down on you for no reason

    • @metalisthelaw2339
      @metalisthelaw2339 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cmdrfunk So, if I don't mind getting my feelings hurt, is there any difference in the grips?

  • @alvaro.martinez
    @alvaro.martinez 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    3:25 he is trying to seduce us

  • @brotendo
    @brotendo 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What kind of weightlifting shoes are Chase wearing?

    • @startingstrength
      @startingstrength  8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +diesel828 VS Athletics

    • @brotendo
      @brotendo 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Starting Strength Thank you

  • @GwasBro
    @GwasBro 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    i seem to only slip with my left hand

    • @Exekutioncro
      @Exekutioncro 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      GwasBro same case for me. It slips out of my left hand when hook gripping

    • @Horus-Lupercal
      @Horus-Lupercal 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you do much dumbbell rows/unilateral work?

  • @goodinsrt8
    @goodinsrt8 8 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I tried hook grip once and it felt like my thumb was being ripped off.

    • @ekw555
      @ekw555 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      +goodinsrt8 it gets better

    • @goodinsrt8
      @goodinsrt8 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ekw555 I tried it again after I watched this video and 135 was really uncomfortable. I have dropped weight and went for reps recently and my grip strength has went way up.

    • @MrAnt-hh3bp
      @MrAnt-hh3bp 7 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      not as bad as a ripped toe

    • @alpo818
      @alpo818 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Search TH-cam for "painless hook grip" and watch Clint Darden's video. If you do it right, it doesn't really hurt. Basically, you want to have it over the fat part of your thumb, otherwise it will rip off the new calluses you'll develop from hook grip (and if you don't have those calluses yet, it just feels like your thumb is being ripped off).

  • @drparks1061
    @drparks1061 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    So I'm all about the hook grip, but rip I notice in your deadlift videos that you use an alternate grip. Is this just something you prefer for max lifts?

    • @drparks1061
      @drparks1061 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      +Corey Lambrecht ...I watched the whole thing. and I'm very experienced on the subject. My question was why Rip uses an alternate grip after discussing its flaws in this video.

    • @startingstrength
      @startingstrength  8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      +Daniel Parks because he's old and didn't figure it out until he'd already done it a certain way longer than most of us have been alive. Also, any video of him deadlifting that you've seen on TH-cam weren't from regular training.

    • @drparks1061
      @drparks1061 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      +Starting Strength right..they were always just singles. I was curious if that's just something he does for max weight but trains regularly with hook grip?

    • @Francesco-cj3oi
      @Francesco-cj3oi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@drparks1061 why do you care how Rip trains?

    • @Daniel-df3hw
      @Daniel-df3hw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Francesco-cj3oi if I'm going to learn from someone, I sure would want to know why they'd teach one thing but do something different. Wouldn't you?

  • @dragonchr15
    @dragonchr15 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The blonde dude looks like one of those ancient greek statues....

  • @mallvin2000
    @mallvin2000 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it true that it can cause permanent nerve damage?

  • @doravraham2398
    @doravraham2398 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Both middle finger and index finger hold the thumb ;)

    • @cmdrfunk
      @cmdrfunk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      IT ENDS UP WHERE IT ENDS UP

  • @DanielGullo
    @DanielGullo หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your shoulder should not be rolled in and out like that if you are doing alternate properly. The forearm has the ability to rotate without rotating the entire arm. It is the whole point of having a radius and ulna instead of a single bone. Even still, the hook grip is also legit.

  • @letlapafly
    @letlapafly 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Since Rip mentions that the alternate hand grip creates shoulder imbalances, wouldn't switching the hands on each set balance things out. I find it hard to hook grip anyway because my hands are too small.

    • @jameskelson8060
      @jameskelson8060 ปีที่แล้ว

      the main problem mentioned was the difference in lat engagement during the pull.

  • @rizwan1983
    @rizwan1983 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hurts my thumb a bitch. Is it alright to wrap some tape (surgical tape) to protect where the thumb rubs against the knurled bar?

    • @Broonzied
      @Broonzied ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep, I always tape my thumbs.

  • @johnh6928
    @johnh6928 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dont put the finger over the nails if possible because it hurts like shit. Really dig the bar in your hand and put middle and index finger under the thumb nail on the bones so it doesnt hurt.

  • @rubenTR309
    @rubenTR309 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    guy on the left is freaking me out

  • @wizzelhoart
    @wizzelhoart 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    is that his son?

  • @mickymcfarts5792
    @mickymcfarts5792 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is chase’s dad Ivan Drago?

  • @i3lack0ut
    @i3lack0ut 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Is there any argument against straps for a person who doesn't compete (besides the obvious because it's for pussies reason)? I wonder because the hook grip or alternate grip are pretty much the same as straps. You don't build your grip strength you just make it easier. So why not use straps and not risk damaging your thumbs. Or just train grip so that you can pull it double overhand.

    • @DBowTX
      @DBowTX 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If they didn't train your grip, people wouldn't miss lifts because of grip giving out.
      I've pulled 630 when I was focusing on strength and can tell you, your forearms and fingers know when you pull heavy even with mixed.

    • @philhorrocks1038
      @philhorrocks1038 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You'll end up working forearms with tons of other exercises (Lat pull down, rows, shrugs, etc.) so using straps on deadlift isn't a huge deal. Deadlifts are mostly meant to strengthen your whole body and I'll take back and leg development over forearm development.

  • @Houseguy2
    @Houseguy2 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    With all due respect (and much is due), I'm going to keep using alternating and switching as I go up in weight.

  • @peterjeremiahfajardo9615
    @peterjeremiahfajardo9615 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've seen brienne of tarth when she was a young lady

  • @ocara50000
    @ocara50000 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    my hands are too small :/

    • @erickomans5494
      @erickomans5494 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You probably just lack flexibility, not size. My hands are smaller than most chinese female weightlifters and I can still manage it.

  • @andrewcady9443
    @andrewcady9443 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Straps.

  • @fujitofusan
    @fujitofusan 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like how informative this video is but please skip the excessive info and just go straight to the hook grip