i am grateful for hunter mains acknowledging how broken he is, its kind of delusional thinking he is “perfectly balanced”. he needs adjustments ASAP. They gave him every utility under the sun, there is absolutely no counter play.
@@CozyButtonz it is delusional to believe he’s anything other than incredibly strong or borderline broken, and of course! As much as I love having strong hunters and more variety of picks to play against strong surv comps, it’s unfair to downplay and say something’s “weak” or “mid” for the sake of making the character seem like a non issue. And in all honesty? I’m starting to think he might be better than Goatman 😅
Yeah, I recently got his s last week and I think it's unfair that I have unlimited skills while other hunters don't and surivivors speed boosts are basically useless.
I am so happy you are saying something about people using patroller. I use warp and only warp and I have no issue with putting down balls not to mention using dog in my opinion messes up his gameplay. He’s very aggressive. This is just weird just sitting in one spot and having the dog chase survivor.
I love the character but I hate the brain dead kit they gave him. Im really hoping for a kit rework so he's satisfying to play with some strategic play other than m1 m1 m1 really giving enchantress a rival with this one
So I watched the other video before I ever watched this one cause idk, I found out today he can indeed use detention he just has to have full marks on you in order to down you.
I haven’t watched the full video so idk if you’ve figured this out but there is a really strong camping strategy I found for him at full presence: If you put at the chair the same colour as the first colour you hit the rescuer with, you effectively guarantee that the colour the clone hits with will be different than the one retained by his full presence E.g. if you hit red first, then put red on the chair, no matter the combination of colours you hit them with (white to black or black to white), the survivor will never retain the red colour, only either white or black, and thus your clone will always apply a colour they don’t have So what you can do is hit the survivor with a colour, put that same colour on the chair, then hit them with the other two colours, then alternate to the other one and it is a guaranteed down if they have 2 hits only Say you hit with white first, then put a white clone on the chair, then hit with black then red, just need to hit with black again (so the colour you hit them second with), and they will take damage twice
@@forsaken79 YES! I do know about that! And it’s such an effective thing to do, double hits are practically guaranteed with this strategy, it’s why I’m baffled when people say he doesn’t have any camp, maybe not in the sense of BonBon or Naiad but his double hit potential is NASTY and super hard to play around as Surv >_>
I wish he just had a rework, i dont like his play style. I really thought he'd have gas bombs per the trailer, wouldve been cool, having to contain them in those zones. He absolutely needs the skill cancel tho.
i got hullabaloo and even if i have alot of fun playing him, he really needs a nerf. like seriously hes very strong even if you dont know how to use him fully, especially with the fact no one can counter him or any form of kititng at that. tight kiting? he has clones that he can replace twice, transitional kiting? he literally moves faster than light. 3 jumps are just too much. most of the time i didnt even use 3 jumps at once because there was no need to. i guess my opinion isnt really valuable because im tiger I on eu (i can go to manticore anytime i want im just scared of griffins and legandary matches) but i never felt like i was thinking when using hullabaloo, its just hit jump hit and suddently everyone is down at 4 ciphers
I feel like having the ability to put down a second illusion per skill use and the fact that he has no attack recovery even on damaging hits really makes him too strong definitely. I feel like not having attack recovery when you are giving the survivor balls is fine but they need to make him have some sort of recovery when the hit would hurt. With no recovery he can literally just follow the survivor during their damage speedboost while giving them more balls. I also feel like have a whole side that disables all survivor items is a bit too much. It was really funny seeing you deny the toymaker her catapult but if that happened to me I would feel so cheated. It’s an interesting concept, and I think the devs thought the whole three hits for one ping of damage was going to be waaayyy more of a downside then it was, so they overbuffed him, but it ended up just making him too oppressive. Like I’m not sure what I would do if I was in the survivors shoes trying to kite him
I really dont know what they thought by making him. I am a survivor main, yeah. But He is for every Survivor hart to Kite. It looks like you dont have to be good as Hunter to still win a Match with him. He is really fast, can Place clones of himself, can cancel abilitys of Survivor, He can slow down Survivor, can do a big jump (even bigger when jumping over things), has no Attack Recovery, His Radius is quite Big... You cant really do anything as Survivor. I get it why Radius is so Big. But He is also really fast AND can Place clones of himself with the Same Big Radius. Thats what i would do. If you Not agree, Tell Me what you would do :3 Exept for keeping him this way just because youre a hunter main and hate survivor. Both sides need each Other for the Game to be fun or do you love bot Matches more? If so Go ahead Anyway. I would let him keep His Clones but there Radius is a bit smaller, also there Recovery is slightly slower maybe but that doesnt have to be. For that i would also make him slower, not to slow tho, He has still to get the survivors after all. After He Hits a survivor with all 3 Balls, He has a short Attack Recovery, so the Survivor can gain a bit of Distance. He can keep His Jump, but ether there Recovery Takes a Bit longer or He has a longer cooldown bevor using again... Maybe. I dont want to be unfair to Hunter Mains. I want a fair and fun Game Oh by the way. If Hunter Mains have any Suggestion on nerfing Survivors that they think are to strong. You can also write it if you want. I cant do anything about it but i would Like to know :3 You where reading my rent and suggestions, its only fair. If you want to know, i am a Mechanic Main :3 So sorry about that rant and sorry if my gramma is sh*t. English isnt my first languange and i am still learning. Thank you for Reading :3 Edit: by the way. I dont have this Hunter and i Just watched Videos about him and Played about 3 or more Matches against him on His First day so yeah... Everything i wrote about what i would do is Just a Suggestion. Like i sayed, If you dont agree. Thats fine. Let me know what you would do instead and pls be kind. There is No reason in saying bad Things. Thank you :3
@@Hydroelectirc I disagree, I don’t like the use of Patroller as it uses up time you could’ve spent giving freight marks, not to mention once he has his trapeze the patroller is basically obsolete, peepers is nice because it adds additional slow through the black and white stage alongside making it easier to get in front of the surv :p
@whymewm-identityv4584 agree to disagree A free hit is way better than a maybe hit if spend more than half the time of the patroller bar and u havent gotten it u did smt wrong
@@Hydroelectirc It's a free hit every 90 seconds, that can be cancelled with a single stun, not to mention Hullabaloo can only be denied a hit for as long as his stage rotation is on cooldown, otherwise there's just nothing you can do :p
It’s just the same give it some time and people will learn how to kite em like ivy or goatman. People tend to be like oh please nerf nerf nerf. Learn the hunter’s mechanic to have a better understanding of the loop holes all characters have. Don’t just assume that you can’t play against him just cause he’s broken and needs nerfing. Nah you’re just lazy to learn hunter mechanics heck maybe even survivors (no hate in here just wanted to express my opinion so if it comes off that way I apologize.)
@@Keichi-Ichigo I get the skepticism! So don’t apologize for having those thoughts and I agree! I tell people to give hunters who are fresh more time for people to adjust to them, only issue it’s just Hullabaloo once he has trapeze is plain stupid 😵💫
my friends laughed at me when i said he is so hard to kite i was only able to kite him for 60 s cause i used william and used all of my ball to keep distance he is too strong must ban in rank
I'm laughing right now watching this. There's no way people ACTUALLY BELIEVE that he is "perfectly balanced" and that he doesn't need a nerf because he then would be "F tier" and "Unplayabled". 💀 Like, people be for real, how do you beat that?! You played as if it was a kids playground, survivors simply stand no chance against Hullabaloo. One mistake and everything is turn apart, its so exhausting.. 💀
@@CookieTaiga easier said than done 😅 not kiting in the open is the best way though, I agree, it’s just tight kiting is hardly more effective when those stage zones and peepers making things even harder
i am grateful for hunter mains acknowledging how broken he is, its kind of delusional thinking he is “perfectly balanced”. he needs adjustments ASAP. They gave him every utility under the sun, there is absolutely no counter play.
@@CozyButtonz it is delusional to believe he’s anything other than incredibly strong or borderline broken, and of course! As much as I love having strong hunters and more variety of picks to play against strong surv comps, it’s unfair to downplay and say something’s “weak” or “mid” for the sake of making the character seem like a non issue.
And in all honesty? I’m starting to think he might be better than Goatman 😅
Yeah, I recently got his s last week and I think it's unfair that I have unlimited skills while other hunters don't and surivivors speed boosts are basically useless.
“How do u kite that” certainly not by RUNNING IN THE OPEN. But oh idk
@@Dragonn6667 LOL that’s the one way 😂
he’s fun to play and he’s very very strong, imo he’s at the very least opera level so i don’t see why people call him a “tie hunter at best”
damn your colour coordination is insane
@@koyo_ Thanks 🥳
he is so fast just moving around that 8% from impulsive is so significant
I am so happy you are saying something about people using patroller. I use warp and only warp and I have no issue with putting down balls not to mention using dog in my opinion messes up his gameplay. He’s very aggressive. This is just weird just sitting in one spot and having the dog chase survivor.
@@lemonchanisrandom1531 YES! You get my point exactly
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8:35 ME WHEN I TRY PLAYING HUNTER OH MY LORD
@@vstro_i You get the struggle 😭
I love the character but I hate the brain dead kit they gave him. Im really hoping for a kit rework so he's satisfying to play with some strategic play other than m1 m1 m1 really giving enchantress a rival with this one
35:05 his prediction didnt work at first bc u were already swinging when he used the skill not bc the red zone
@@ninjin8048 Yeah I realized this in editing 😅 Thanks for the correction!
I actually havent been running inso on him, but ig my play style is way more aggressive LOL
inso help early game which then afterward make him unkitable
@ I know that, however just like ivy he isn’t restricted to it
i run inso on him bc im a shitty hunter main LMAO
the way in every match at least 1 survivor just didnt struggle cause hes just not fun to play against ☠️
So I watched the other video before I ever watched this one cause idk, I found out today he can indeed use detention he just has to have full marks on you in order to down you.
I haven’t watched the full video so idk if you’ve figured this out but there is a really strong camping strategy I found for him at full presence:
If you put at the chair the same colour as the first colour you hit the rescuer with, you effectively guarantee that the colour the clone hits with will be different than the one retained by his full presence
E.g. if you hit red first, then put red on the chair, no matter the combination of colours you hit them with (white to black or black to white), the survivor will never retain the red colour, only either white or black, and thus your clone will always apply a colour they don’t have
So what you can do is hit the survivor with a colour, put that same colour on the chair, then hit them with the other two colours, then alternate to the other one and it is a guaranteed down if they have 2 hits only
Say you hit with white first, then put a white clone on the chair, then hit with black then red, just need to hit with black again (so the colour you hit them second with), and they will take damage twice
@@forsaken79 YES! I do know about that! And it’s such an effective thing to do, double hits are practically guaranteed with this strategy, it’s why I’m baffled when people say he doesn’t have any camp, maybe not in the sense of BonBon or Naiad but his double hit potential is NASTY and super hard to play around as Surv >_>
I wish he just had a rework, i dont like his play style. I really thought he'd have gas bombs per the trailer, wouldve been cool, having to contain them in those zones. He absolutely needs the skill cancel tho.
I love him
i got hullabaloo and even if i have alot of fun playing him, he really needs a nerf. like seriously hes very strong even if you dont know how to use him fully, especially with the fact no one can counter him or any form of kititng at that. tight kiting? he has clones that he can replace twice, transitional kiting? he literally moves faster than light. 3 jumps are just too much. most of the time i didnt even use 3 jumps at once because there was no need to. i guess my opinion isnt really valuable because im tiger I on eu (i can go to manticore anytime i want im just scared of griffins and legandary matches) but i never felt like i was thinking when using hullabaloo, its just hit jump hit and suddently everyone is down at 4 ciphers
I feel like having the ability to put down a second illusion per skill use and the fact that he has no attack recovery even on damaging hits really makes him too strong definitely. I feel like not having attack recovery when you are giving the survivor balls is fine but they need to make him have some sort of recovery when the hit would hurt. With no recovery he can literally just follow the survivor during their damage speedboost while giving them more balls. I also feel like have a whole side that disables all survivor items is a bit too much. It was really funny seeing you deny the toymaker her catapult but if that happened to me I would feel so cheated. It’s an interesting concept, and I think the devs thought the whole three hits for one ping of damage was going to be waaayyy more of a downside then it was, so they overbuffed him, but it ended up just making him too oppressive. Like I’m not sure what I would do if I was in the survivors shoes trying to kite him
Now I kinda wanna download idv again
I really dont know what they thought by making him.
I am a survivor main, yeah. But He is for every Survivor hart to Kite.
It looks like you dont have to be good as Hunter to still win a Match with him.
He is really fast, can Place clones of himself, can cancel abilitys of Survivor, He can slow down Survivor, can do a big jump (even bigger when jumping over things), has no Attack Recovery, His Radius is quite Big...
You cant really do anything as Survivor.
I get it why Radius is so Big. But He is also really fast AND can Place clones of himself with the Same Big Radius.
Thats what i would do. If you Not agree, Tell Me what you would do :3
Exept for keeping him this way just because youre a hunter main and hate survivor. Both sides need each Other for the Game to be fun or do you love bot Matches more? If so Go ahead
Anyway. I would let him keep His Clones but there Radius is a bit smaller, also there Recovery is slightly slower maybe but that doesnt have to be. For that i would also make him slower, not to slow tho, He has still to get the survivors after all.
After He Hits a survivor with all 3 Balls, He has a short Attack Recovery, so the Survivor can gain a bit of Distance.
He can keep His Jump, but ether there Recovery Takes a Bit longer or He has a longer cooldown bevor using again... Maybe. I dont want to be unfair to Hunter Mains. I want a fair and fun Game
Oh by the way. If Hunter Mains have any Suggestion on nerfing Survivors that they think are to strong. You can also write it if you want. I cant do anything about it but i would Like to know :3
You where reading my rent and suggestions, its only fair.
If you want to know, i am a Mechanic Main :3
So sorry about that rant and sorry if my gramma is sh*t. English isnt my first languange and i am still learning. Thank you for Reading :3
Edit: by the way. I dont have this Hunter and i Just watched Videos about him and Played about 3 or more Matches against him on His First day so yeah...
Everything i wrote about what i would do is Just a Suggestion. Like i sayed, If you dont agree. Thats fine. Let me know what you would do instead and pls be kind. There is No reason in saying bad Things.
Thank you :3
Im a dw main and i use patriller dialy it is way better on him than peepers
@@Hydroelectirc I disagree, I don’t like the use of Patroller as it uses up time you could’ve spent giving freight marks, not to mention once he has his trapeze the patroller is basically obsolete, peepers is nice because it adds additional slow through the black and white stage alongside making it easier to get in front of the surv :p
@whymewm-identityv4584 agree to disagree A free hit is way better than a maybe hit if spend more than half the time of the patroller bar and u havent gotten it u did smt wrong
@@Hydroelectirc It's a free hit every 90 seconds, that can be cancelled with a single stun, not to mention Hullabaloo can only be denied a hit for as long as his stage rotation is on cooldown, otherwise there's just nothing you can do :p
It’s just the same give it some time and people will learn how to kite em like ivy or goatman. People tend to be like oh please nerf nerf nerf. Learn the hunter’s mechanic to have a better understanding of the loop holes all characters have. Don’t just assume that you can’t play against him just cause he’s broken and needs nerfing. Nah you’re just lazy to learn hunter mechanics heck maybe even survivors (no hate in here just wanted to express my opinion so if it comes off that way I apologize.)
@@Keichi-Ichigo I get the skepticism! So don’t apologize for having those thoughts and I agree! I tell people to give hunters who are fresh more time for people to adjust to them, only issue it’s just Hullabaloo once he has trapeze is plain stupid 😵💫
my friends laughed at me when i said he is so hard to kite i was only able to kite him for 60 s cause i used william and used all of my ball to keep distance
he is too strong must ban in rank
SIXTY SECONDS? In all honesty that's an impressive kite against Hullabaloo since he can easily counter William
@@whymewm-identityv4584 i think i just got lucky cuz the person who was using him was probably new to his gameplay
Do you have a discord community? ^^ I want to have more people to play IDV with and you have a very chill vibe
@@scaraceo I don’t unfortunately :( just servers with friends but feel free to add me if you’d like! butwhy5771
@ thank you!
I know how i will kite him... I wont. I will dc.
New auto ban in rank!!
I'm laughing right now watching this. There's no way people ACTUALLY BELIEVE that he is "perfectly balanced" and that he doesn't need a nerf because he then would be "F tier" and "Unplayabled". 💀 Like, people be for real, how do you beat that?! You played as if it was a kids playground, survivors simply stand no chance against Hullabaloo. One mistake and everything is turn apart, its so exhausting.. 💀
How do you kite this OP hunter ? Just dont run in the open like a headless chicken. You will be fine. Get hit 6 times in less than 30s is skill issue
@@CookieTaiga easier said than done 😅 not kiting in the open is the best way though, I agree, it’s just tight kiting is hardly more effective when those stage zones and peepers making things even harder
This dude is not fit for camping ngl
@@crow03571 he’s mainly a pursuit hunter, but still has very good camp 🏕️
@@whymewm-identityv4584 Hitting a double hit to instant down is a W