JUST THE TIPS - 90/90 (CENTER TO EDGE) AIMING SYSTEM
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ส.ค. 2022
- This fun, easy and accurate aiming system will leaving wondering "how is this possible?!?!?" 90/90 is an aiming system I learned from Ron Vitello. I call it "aiming voodoo" because I just can't explain why it works. But it does!
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I too appreciate your approach to presenting info. Thanks for your efforts.
Been using this since 2015 and out of all the vids ,this one to me is the best
I use this same aiming tool for almost two years. Instead of the pivot, try to parallel shift the shaft from the CB edge to CB center. The pivot can give give a slight over cut. And you can do it in the air or on the way down to address.
Loved it. I'm a fan of CTE aiming. I don't use aiming systems for most of my shots. But I don't make cut shots greater than 40 degrees-ish consistently so I'm definitely trying this.
What a very nice tip you made. I always do calculate the angle from object ball to the pocket and then calculate how much i have to aim on the cue ball. This method is much easier.
I really love the way you show visuals on aiming systems just like this. Gives us viewers clarity on how to do the system. I'm still using your side of shaft aiming system for shots that I need double checking from your old videos. Hope you could re-upload it again.
correct me if Im wrong the shaft aiming syhstem is only up to a 45 degree cut coz say you are cutting the ball 45 degree to your left , the left edge the shaft has to be in line with the the right edge of the OB. to make the shot once the cut angle is over 45 degree the left edge of the shaft will be out right over the edge of ob meaning the left edge of the shaft is aiming in space. I wonder why in his video he says it works up to about 70 degrees thank you
Interesting, it's always good to have some aiming systems to know and have at the ready, thanks.
simple and effective , subscribed immediately
Man, you are great! I love you. Mr. Vito in Dallas, Texas
I use a CTE/Shish Kabob method.
works very well.
i did dabble with 90/90.
interested in seeing a video on 90/90 banking and long shots !!
good stuff , thanks for posting !!
Neat! I'm going to try it! Thanks!
Great way, you are so creative
Great channel… Give us more!!!
Thank you awesome video
Good stuff broski! 👏 I am really interested in learning your aiming system. Can you please let me know when you're going to upload that video?
Hacia tiempo esperando ese video gracias
it's interesting to see that one could create "aiming systems" that rely on such "sort of" vague estimation due to the high margin for error on a pool table.... that it works.... somehow...
Cool. I personally like split the difference for the reason you are talking about. I like to just drop down on the shot. But I line shoot mostly. But if I'm struggling or feeling lazy I'll just use split the difference
best aiming system, thanks so much
Best aiming system ever.
A couple years ago I started using 90 90 in combination with the mirror system to find the line for bank shots. I went from missing most banks to now feeling like a bank master.
I like it. Another way to do it. I’ll take all you got! Thxs
you are my favorite TH-camr
Thanks mate much appreciated! 👍🎱🇳🇿
very nice visuals, appreciate your effort. how to apply 90/90 in 80-90 deg cut shot?
I learned this system from Hal Houle in 2002. Thanks for sharing
Hal’s shish kabob system-very similar but ferrule edge did not enter into the equation
I wonder if methods like this seem to work because the individual shooting the shot already knows how to make the shot and unconsciously applies the correct aim to make the shot... It would be interesting to teach this to a complete beginner and see how effective it is -- because it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.
very nice video.
I don't like getting my shoulder out of alignment, disrupting the natural pathway. But I enjoy your tutorials.
I'm a semi-fan of CTE I can see 90/90 doing the much same thing too. I think the systems eventually train the eyes to learn the shot angles and ultimately the hands will follow the eyes. Stan Shuffett's cte/pro tries to eliminate the obvious and unseemly act of the manual pivots and encourages flowing directly into the shot position. But that takes quite a bit of practice to accomplish smoothly. If someone is right-handed with a dominate left eye... they might need a cue stick with training wheels or a crosshair sight glued on top of the ferrule.
To each their own. Whatever works for someone is what they should use. I still think, at least for myself, that the ghost ball aiming system is vastly superior. You just need to understand about cut induced throw. Otherwise it is super simple to see and use.
One of the great things about pool is that there are many ways to do things. Many ways to aim, ways to stand, there are short punchy strokes that look awful like Pagulayan, and there there are absolutely beautiful strokes like Gorst. There are guys that rarely drop their elbow and guys and gals that drop their elbow quite a bit on every shot - like Gorst and many top European players.
There are guys that have the traditional snooker stance and guys that almost have their feet vertical to each other.
There are guys and gals that play fast, really fast, and guys and gals that are so slow watching paint dry is more entertaining.
Bottom line, do what works best for you but be willing to put the time in. If you don't put the work in, you are not going to be a good player.
Gorst is amazing...!
not everyone can visualize a ghost ball well. My problem is not knowing seeing the contact point that very easy. it lining up that damm spot behind the CB that actually hits the contact point.
I would prob use this if my normal aim was just off and I needed a little help, use this until I'm re calibrated.. just an idea. Thanks for sharing
I own this same exact pool table. I need too get that predator light you have looks like thats the light you have for your table..
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In the Pro-One version of CTE, the pivot is essentially done while bending into the shot, so it's all one smooth motion. Perhaps this approach could be used with the 90/90 system?
I’m sure it would work.
Hi, I would like to know how you define (edge-edge, edge-3/4, or edge-half) before taking your shot ? Is it possible to have an explanation of that ? thx
Maybe this is like the OG center to edge method??
the thing with the pivot though with varying bridge length the angle the cb moves towrard the ob is differnc as well. if you pivot bridge length is too short you can overcut it , too long you can undercut it
It’s helpin me
Nice
It helped my game so much but long shots it took me some time
For super long shots, the perspective changes for sure.
How do you do it if it's almost straight i ? For adding English, do you just not swivel?
Question...Is bridge length a factor? Secondly, how do I know the middle of the cb as it depends on my visual center which can be anywhere?
Great video.
Only issue is the heavy breathing getting recorded.
Interesting.
Love your channel. Love the quality of your content. What aiming system do you use? Please don’t say ghost ball 😂
I use a shaft aiming system. I’ll make a video soon :)
@@DrawShotTV great can’t wait for it!!!!
Can you show us view from behind what you’re doing ? Ty
how to calculate the degrees so can immediately get the fraction
Hi, does this work with long side of table?
I never know what cut to use so I just use ghost ball.
Thanks for showing us this way of aiming. You say you don't aim this way, can you show us the way you aim?
I use shaft aiming. I made a video on it. Take a look!
Thank you. @@DrawShotTV
Thanks for that explanation of 90 90... watching Ron's video he does not show that its edge, edge 1/4 or edge edge half as the angle increases,,, it makes so much more sense.... i will give it a try.... thanks again.... vince
To be honest, Ron didn’t explain it very well to me and I had to figure the rest out on my own.
does the bridge length matter? Will having a shorter or longer bridge affect the pivot
Sort of but not really. If you have an abnormally long or short bridge, yes. But if it’s a normal length, then no.
Great video, most obvious question - how do you compensate for English?
It depends on the shaft you use. With a low deflection, you don’t need to do much.
@@DrawShotTV I found on longer shots it’s not quite as forgiving. I use SVB system on occasion, much more comfortable for me, I’m awaiting your vid on the system you use, Shaft alignment (variants) seems more dependable, at least for me.
Next aiming system splitting tje difderence
this is genius how much angle is on each shot just roughly just to get an idea of when to use what line ( thanks in advance)
It works very similar to fractional aiming. I can’t tell you the exact degrees unfortunately. I only know when it looks wrong, go to the next one.
@@DrawShotTV this was by far the best produced video as it gave an overview from the top the graphics and exploration of edge to edge to and then showing it from the top fantastic love the effort that has gone into this video😀😀😀
If you like suggestions I would love for you to show how to add English or spin to the 90/90 system and I would love for you to do a video on playing position for the next shot as I love the to the point-ness of your videos …😀 once again thank you for producing the videos that makes our game better and keep those videos coming😀😀😀
How too easy make masse shot? Give me tip sir?
Ron V was a great guy. RIP
Wouldn't the bridge length make the angle of pivot different?
It absolutely does. I don’t recommend a super long or super short bridge for this system or any other either.
You have a dead straight in ball. Can the 90-90 system help at all ?
Not really. Dead straight in, I would aim at the base of the ball. Where the ball meets the cloth. Unfortunately though, we don’t miss straight in shots from bad aim. We miss them from bad technique. An overlooked part of this game is that when we get down and set, every single shot becomes the same. Just shoot straight.
how does this work with length of the table
The further you are from the object ball, the more exact you need to be. In fact, the perception changes a bit for super long shots so it can get tricky. It’s something you need to experience with.
Cool to know aiming systems, but the ultimate evolution of the pool player is to not use any aiming system. Use subconscious and feel
I agree but under pressure, it’s nice to have the knowledge
@@DrawShotTV fair point
I totally agree with that!
I've looked at all the aiming systems... I play better by just my body and experience
In my opinion, aiming systems help develop the subconscious and muscle memory
Video for long ball aiming
Aiming long balls is the same as aiming short balls. Long shots are just harder because you need to shoot straighter.
Doesn't this highly depend on the length of the bridge? The amount of pivot will be proportional to the length from bridge to tip. Seems like the distance from cue to object balls would also be a variable factor. Unless I missed it, what was the explanation of when to use edge, quarter, center, etc, on the object ball before the pivot?
Certainly. If you have an abnormally long bridge, it might not be as accurate. Or an abnormally short bridge. But if it’s anywhere around 7-11”, it should work fine.
It’s surprisingly accurate and I wish I understood why.
Maybe you could explain what edge edge edge or edge edge half ball is. I'm lost
Watch again and pay close attention to the graphics on the left side of the screen. You’ll see the cue, the cueball and the object ball. And the line of aim I’m referring to. All of that is illustrated on the screen.
Yes you have a point. He was not able to explain why at first he aimed at the edge of the Cueball and edge of the Objectball.... next shot he was aiming a tad to the edge of Objectball. Is it still based on feeling that he adjust that much on the Objectball.?
Just line up the cue ball with the contact point on line with the pocket lol
How bout long shots using 90/90 aiming
How do you know to go edge edge 1/4 or 1/2 or 3/4????
It takes some getting used to
Shallow angles like 10° you aim edge to edge and pivot to center. Pivot edge to 1/4 when angle is deeper. Edge to 1/2 when angle is 45° cut. Edge to 3/4 when steeper like a 50°.
@@JohnS-il1dr thanks dude that’s what I needed
if i use small tip 9mm then where is cue edge? same?
I believe so. Never used such a thin shaft.
I am still wondering why it is called "center to edge" while the actual is we aim from "edge to center? of the cue ball? 🙄🙄
Don’t know the answer to that
Wondering what system your using instead ?
Didn't you use what you called voodoo aiming. It was 90 90.
Yes, I called 90/90 aiming voodoo because it’s crazy how it works. I use a shaft aiming system now.
Edge of shaft ?
Do you plan on posting a video on it ?
What does he mean 90 to center, 90 to 90, 90/90 reverse
I believe he named is 90/90 because your tip placement starts at 90% edge of the ball. I don’t know for sure.
Fastening
You tech really awesome
Please teach Split The Difference Aiming Method From Lil Mike
I don’t believe I know the split the difference aiming
@@DrawShotTV I'll send some video for you in face book and check it out plz.
Mike and Fada lied to us
I just aim regularly
"If you don't like it, just leave a thumbs up and walk away"... fuck thats funny. Exactly what someone whos channel is called "Just the tips" would say. If you don't like my comment just give it a thumbs up and leave me alone!
U said right cuts u aim right edge of shaft but looks like ur aiming with left shaft
I'm much worried about your breathing bro.. lol
Sorry 🤷🏽♂️
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沒想到我這招也有人會
I’ll take your word for it!
I'm a level 7 APA player and that is confusing as hell to me🤣🤣😂
What exactly don’t you understand?
@@DrawShotTV it's not that your system isn't good because I love all of your instructions. But this is the only video that I don't really catch on to. I even became a level seven player because of some of your instructions. But playing pool comes more or less naturally to me and when you start throwing in numbers like that I simply get confused is all...lol.... I think I'll just stick to the regular way of aiming using the edge of my ferrell.... that's been working for me so far... but you do a great job though
@@travispogue8937 I just mean, is there anything I can say to help you understand this? I like to help
I’m glad you’re learning from the channel and it’s showing improvement in your game!
I would like to add this is nothing like CTE. CTE you have parallax , aim lines , sight lines , NISLS. With 3 different styles to CTE. I took 10 hours worth of lessons from Mr. Shuffett himself. His way is more detailed for better results. This should just be titled 90/90.....CTE is its own monster.
So me, it seems similar. 🤷🏽♂️
*BALLS ARE SET SO CLOSE YOU CAN HIT THE BALL ANYWHERE AND IT WOULD GO IN. FROM TOP VIEW YOUR NOT HITTING CENTER BALL. THERE IS MORE THAN WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. AND BEING IN VIDEO WITH BARE FEET IS GROSS*
I bet you’re a blast a parties :)
I just use ghost ball. Don't understand the fascination with hokey pokey and turn yourself around systems when ghost ball gives you direct access on what to aim at, and these systems do nothing for me if I'm using english, stuck on the rail or hooked in the pocket or jacked over a ball. I really don't understand why a pro would DIVERT from ghost ball when viewing the ghost ball is necessary so often.
Ok :)
@@DrawShotTV Thanks for all your thoughts :)
pivoting is stupid but could be useful system for beginers to begin to learn the angles untill they see them more naturally so they automatically get down on the right line its quite a plain ball way of playing and not really something i would reccomend to anyone to use full time its forgiving like a lot of the aiming systems becuse the game is easy. You do need to know how to pot in various ways for position lots more to learn than this. Better to learn correct fundimentals as you Americans might say (technique)...I could play all day on that table n never miss a shot i could see as the pockets are that big id be scared id fall in walking around it. There is actually a thing i do and someone demonstrated it and called it a system i do it naturally but I actually never knew it was a system till someone demonstrated it.
Oh dear, that IS indeed voodoo. Some over-engineering, here (not your fault) with all these 'aiming systems'. Just practice and train your angle recognition, helps a lot more in the long run.
I don’t disagree at all. But it does work.
@@DrawShotTV As long as one plays on barn door like pool table pockets. Where one can use the pocket size to one's advantage. But try to rely on this playing a difficult table, and... there's the miss.
If you can't explain how it works, then your work is not done. First, your bridge length severely impacts the shot when pivoting. Draw this to scale on a piece of paper, mark the center point of rotation for a 6" bridge and a 12" bridge and you will see. Second, you need to estimate the cut angle to know what fraction of the ball to point at, then estimate that fraction of ball. This is overly complicated compared to just learning to aim properly - no "system". And finally, any system that has you pivot your cue after going down on the cue ball cannot be accurate. Proper straight cue delivery is dependent on your feet position, head alignment and shoulder rotatation. Pivoting your cue throws that all out of whack.
I did explain how it works. I can’t explain WHY it works.
Maybe finish the video and you’ll see why I don’t use this system. 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
@@DrawShotTV I meant to say "why". I can explain why. Comfirmation bias. Some people "use" it, thinks its working, when they are really just aiming better on their own. Draw it on paper - it does not work.
@@DrawShotTV Glad to hear it. I thought a counter-point in the comments might be useful to others. Good on you for not deleting it.
@@ShortstopOnPool I don’t delete comments. And I welcome criticism. Imo this is a useful system but I agree there are flaws. Also, in my opinion, aiming is easy for most shots. After a while it’s just second nature. But sometimes has to get people started.
You talk too much!
Next time I’ll use sign language
Terrible explanation
Appreciate it!
Nonsense, it's ghost ball aiming, just visualized different.
Nonsense, there is no mention of ghost ball or point of contact. 😑
Nice