How Greensleeves Works In Six the Musical
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0:00 Greensleeves Is Everywhere in Six
1:23 Greensleeves and Henry VIII
2:31 Established Titles
4:05 Greensleeves as a Metaphor
5:07 Hidden Greensleeves Reference
6:15 Two Contradictions
7:00 A Flat vs. A Natural
7:59 B Flat Major Wives
8:41 Contradictions Resolved
10:32 Modulation Unlocked
Six the Musical won the Tony for Best Original Score for a reason. Composers Toby Marlow and Lucy Moss weave musical complexity into their song storytelling, and this is exemplified in their use of the classic folk song Greensleeves. By tracking Greensleeves from the beginning of the show to the end, we can chart the journey of the Queens and see them grow beyond their historical baggage. In one word, it's the Historemix!
Six the Musical
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Showtime - The Tudors
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BwaySHO - Six Final Preview on Broadway
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I don't know if it means anything in this context, but also as Cathrine Parr is setting up her song, she has Joan play a "B flat major 7", which you said was part of the chord that made the wii-i-ives at the end fit- it clicked for me when you mentioned it, and i dunno if it has any meaning to this whole thing-
I was wondering when someone might mention this! Do you know what a B flat major 7 is? It's a B flat major chord PLUS an A natural. I didn't include this in the video, because I'm not sure if this was intentionally to tie into Greensleeves, but it is fun to speculate. Thanks!
@@HowardHoMusic This wants me to speculate about music so bad- but I am bad at music
@@HowardHoMusic seems to specific to be a coincidance.
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i live in scotland and have been my whole life and my uncle is a lord and he can confirm these title selling sites are pure scams as well as the fact that countryside land will be owned by lords themselve and theres not much free country land for sale. farming land of around 50x50meters can run you over 40k pounds coz the countryside is protected and private owned by multiple different people. and they cant buile trees there coz the land is 99% alreadt owned.
Anne Boleyn is particularly the one wearing green sleeves cuffs as she will never be able to shake off being the famous, decapitated wife of Henry VIII. Even though she isn’t the only one… Catherine Howard even makes a comment on it in the opening song “I’m done ‘cause all this time I’ve been just one word in a stupid rhyme”.
Sorry, typo: Green sleeves/cuffs*
Great video by the way! I absolutely love SIX, so many good jokes in the lyrics alone, yet so many sad stories told in a lighthearted way. Brilliant musical.
And also a nother typo it's Katherine Howard
@@liesbetpeeters7854 it can be spelled either way neither of u r incorrect
@@HannahfromMontana ow sorry I didn't now that
@@liesbetpeeters7854 :)
You’re talking about a reference to the last six notes of green sleeves. If you juxtapose the order of the fates of the wives over this reference , two of the clashing notes are over the wives who were beheaded and the last clashing is over the one who survived. Could this be intentional?
Nice! I love it when someone can go even further with it.
Perhaps. Although each wife suffered in her own way being tied to Henry, the two who were beheaded upsettingly died at his decree. Then, you have the lucky one who got away entirely, outliving him. On top of that, I feel Anne Boleyn holds notoriety as one of the easier names to recall of his 6 wives, while Katherine Howard is recognizable for dyeing so young and, I believe, having the shortest period as Henry VIII's wife.
@@apurplekitkat Anne of Cleves (Anna in Six) was queen for 6 months; Jane Seymour died after 1 year and nearly 5 months; Katherine (spelled this way in Six but not in history) Howard was killed after 1 year and 6 and a half months, so she had the third-shortest time as queen. The next is Anne Boleyn, just under 3 years; then Catherine (again, how spelled in Six) Parr, 3 and a half years until Henry’s death. And, of course, Catherine (Catalina) of Aragon was queen for just shy of 24 years, until her marriage was annulled. I was curious about this a while ago so looked it all up. Thanks for the opportunity to nerd out!
@@SWein66 Oh wow. Thank you for all the information and clarifying. I think I was just confused because Catherine Howard was his youngest wife correct?
@@apurplekitkat Yeah, she was around 17 or 19 when she married Henry.
So now I’m just sitting here hoping you’ll cover All You Wanna Do, because that song is ridiculously effective at getting its point across.
I'm hearing a lot of requests for that one. We shall see!
Yes! I love the bubblegum pop feel to the song that made it feel like the tragedy is getting repetitive with the 4 choruses!
@@tangerine_chocolata add to that the fact that the song is seven minutes long and positioned late in the show. By design it’s difficult to sing, thus mirroring how a life of abuse wears away at Kate Howard.
YES OMG THAT IS MY FAVORITE SONG FROM THIS MUSICAL
This song is so sad. it's literally a song about Catherine being gr*omed and r*ped since she was a pre-teen
i LOVE how the change of greensleeves happens. I expected the writers to have them go down for it to fit over the harmony, but instead the harmony changes around them. they didn't change themselves to fit in, the context in which we see them is shifted or altered so we see/hear them how they are musically meant to be heard. like.. literally, what the show is about, US shifting OUR perspective to see the queens as THEY tell it, not just as the six wives of Henry VIII. this show just keeps getting better.
i haven't even listened to six but boy am i a sucker for musical motifs and i appreciated this anyway
Thanks for watching anyway!
Just look up 'SIX: The Musical Slime Tutorial' and you'll find it on TH-cam ♡
Same musical motifs are really clever
I literally had a huge convo with my husband about how the opening song sounded so weird and I COULDN'T place why!??? TH-cam listened in and sent me your genius and now I KNOW! Thank you for the super well made animations and audio cuts. It must have taken ages.
LOL...sometimes the algorithm works!
This was mindblowing, especially because I've had the theory for years that they sang out of tune at the beginning because they were not a real group yet while singing it on tune at the end of the show when they're finally a team. I just never had knowledge of how deeper than reference was
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Bravo! That “wives” thing always bugged me! Now I need to go re-listen to the cast album with this in mind!
Thank you!
Right?!?! And it bugged me so much I had to make an entire video about it. LOL
So much this! I think I still hate that line, but at least I now understand it...
How about listening to the Broadway version, instead of the “pop” version.
@@tananario What do you mean? There’s a Broadway and a West End, as far as I know
Tbh, everything works in Six the Musical.
(I love your song breakdowns btw - it's incredible that you have the intelligence to do so. I admire your content, and you help a lot of people appreciate the art of music more.)
For sure, I'm a fan of all of it.
We sang Greensleeves at school today! We were having musical history lessons :D and we were studying Reneissance. I just smiled and sang along and nobody knew what I was thinking of bc here in Finland we don't really study English history😆
Nice!
I LOVE THIS! Especially the bit about the Queens breaking free from their handcuffs to history / Henry VIII, and Boleyns green cuffs! Good job
It was definitely a light bulb moment when I thought of that connection. Thanks for noticing that!
@@HowardHoMusic I am actually pretty impressed by this, and green sleeves is a fab tune anyway!
six is such an underrated musical, it's definitely one of my favorites because everything seems to work so well together
Six has always been a show I loved listening to but didn't really get why it grabbed me emotionally. Ty for contextualizing 🙌
I have always wondered why the harmony doesn’t ‘fit’ in that bit- I hadn’t clocked that it was the end of the Greensleeves motif!
Idk if this matters, but at the end, Anne says, " Henry sent me a poem all about my green sleeves changed a couple words put it on a sick beat" I thought maybe that was a reference
in the second to last song, in annes part she says 'henry sent me a poem all about my greensleeves' too🤣
Yeah, and I included a clip of that line in this video! It's when you see them performing at their Tiny Desk Concert!
@@HowardHoMusic i saw this live, such a surreal experience, i would 100% see again
Thank you for making clear why I feel differently from the beginning to the end. I knew the multiple Greensleeves refrences, but being musically illiterate, I didn't know how to define WHY I felt the way I felt. This makes it so much more clear for those of us who don't read music.
so so so glad you explained the musical contradictions in ex-wives. those notes always bugged me, now I know it was deliberate!
I seriously love that you're in NY now and you can film in front of all the theaters!
I hope I can see Six live someday! The shows look like so much fun!
Great video as always, mi'Lord Howard Ho!!
Oh, I can't wait for you to see SIX!
@@HowardHoMusic they're coming to my town a month from now. which reminds me, I need to check if there are tickets still open that I can afford.
@@HurrikanEagle check out the lottery. They offer tickets for about $30 after fees and a lot of them are front row!
@@k.schwind5415 oh? This is the first I'm hearing about a lottery option.
I ended up just buying some high up seats because I could. I'm curious about this lotto for the future tho
I said it once and I'll say again, this why I love your work, Howard. I have a theatre major but sadly it didn't include music theory. I feel like watching your videos I'm back learning the importance of score to theatrical intent. I'm always gonna share your work with others.
In the original cast recording, the one that NEVER saw the light of day, greensleeves is everywhere and I'm surprised it almost had a leitmotif utility.
In the old version the queens literally sings the lyrics of green sleeves, which were very interesting
I so love it when you explain what one assumes might be in there but as a non-musician can't put into words! I always knew the Boleyn line was not just a joke about that song... thank you!
I was hoping you’d do a deconstruction on Six! I’ve watched all your Hamilton ones and Broadway shows adjacent deconstructions and I find them so fascinating and I really enjoy your style and editing when talking about this. You are very knowledgeable and it’s cool to listen to someone spew information like this.
This isn't even mentioning the first SIIIX harmony the queens do outside of the soundtrack between Ex Wives and the Reprise and how clashy it sounds compared to the last SIIIX wiiiveees harmony before going into Six and the rewrite...... gosh Toby and Lucy really deserved that original score Tony
There's also that one detail where in the 'six' song Anne mentioned about Henry sending a poem about her greensleeves and remixing it into a viral song where she writes lyrics for Shakespeare. Idk it just sort of clicked
Hi Howard Ho!! I LOVE the song Greensleeves!!! My friend saw Six last week!!! He LOVED the play!! Can’t wait to share with him!!! What a great video!!! Ok need to finish your video, now!! Have a happy week! 🎈🎶🎈
Those exclamation marks are giving me anxiety for some reason...
Hi @@chaosqueen1703 I’m so sorry. Sending you feel better-hugs without any exclamation points. :)
@@melodythemassagetherapist6957 I was joking lol, they don't actually, it was a reference to how sometimes people seem passive aggressive using so many exclamation marks but I'm not truly that sensitive.
@@chaosqueen1703 hahaha!! I was just being silly fun with my exclamation points. I am typically sincere with my exclamation points because I love life, people and being passionate about whatever video I’m commenting on. :) on that note, so glad you were just kidding and May people see my sincerity in my exclamation points! :) take care and have a beautiful week!! 🙂
@@melodythemassagetherapist6957 you too-
After we saw Six I listened to the soundtrack all the time, 8 times out of 10 I would skip it all and play the last song. It totally makes sense that even though I love how compelling the harmonies are, that my brain would gravitate to the "less shoe-horned" version. I LOVE it when you explain things that I know/hear but can't articulate! Thanks so much!
THANK YOU for explaining what my brain could register but my mind couldn’t process. Amazing content. KEEP IT COMING.
Thank you for mentioning that Charlie Brown song!!! Ever since I first saw Six I thought Greensleeves sounded so familiar/like a Christmas song but I couldn’t figure out which one. So thank you so much because that has been nagging the back of my mind for the last 6 months.
SAME I kept thinking of the Pentatonix version
Your analysis is *always* top-notch and surprising!
Been looking forward to your analysis of Six - such a great show. (Also hoping for the Beetlejuice musical, by the way.)
Buying lordships is nonsense, though - the Court of Lord Lyon, herald for Scotland, has made it clear that such small grants of land (particularly as the plot is sponsored rather than actually purchased) is not sufficient to qualify for the conventional title of laird. It's also worth noting that a laird, while linguistically cognate, is *not* a lord and doesn't authorise anyone to claim to be one - putting it on one's passport, for instance, is technically changing one's name rather than gaining a title.
It's a clever way of fundraising - essentially letting people adopt a patch of land much like one might "adopt" a penguin at a zoo - but one shouldn't believe there's any real ownership or title involved.
thank you someone finally said it, maybe its just cause they seem to be the IT sponsor at the moment and everyone is talking about them but something about the obviously false rules just seemed weird to me, its essentially like those buy a star things and just as (not) valid. i wouldnt be surprised if the ads start shifting from less from 'buy a title' to being all about 'fund wildlife/habitat protection' as more people buy them and are confused why they arent a lord even though their totally real piece of paper says so
more six analysis please!! thank you for explaining these notes - always stood out to me!
I love listening to music, coming here to have you explain a cool bit, then listening again and hearing so much more! You literally help me love the music I love MORE. Thank you! 🥰
Please understand that Established Titles has been found to be a scam. You may not be aware of it but research it... it is really bad.
NOO NOT THE ESTABLISHED TITLE SCAM
I have only listened to Ex-Wives and when I noticed it I recognized it but I couldn’t remember what it was from. It sounded like a Christmas song, I thought it was a coincidence and it kinda bugged me lol
I doubt this will be seen but the company that sponcered you has had some info shown about them about them being shady and not a good company to work with!
Please see @LegalEagle’s video re: Established Titles
i just got back into my six obsession, so this came at a perfect time 💕
Your breakdowns are amazing. I love your point that Henry VIII is famous because of them.
he also would be one of the more interesting English Kings without his many wives
When I clicked on this, I thought it was going to be a short musical about why the song, Greensleeves, works in a 6/8 time signature.
Also, incredibly good video! I’d never heard anything about this musical and it was really cool learning about this. Fascinating stuff!
LOL
Omg, I was so confused about that line ("My sleeves may be green but my lipstick's red"). I think I understand the red lipstick, but the green sleeves seemed weird (I've never heard of Greensleeves)
Nice video! There are also some ‘easter egg’ iterations of the Greensleeves tune (including the 2nd half of it) hidden throughout the score - maybe someone will find them one day!
Ohhhhh...
Scotland here. We think it’s hilarious that you’re all buying “Lord” titles. Not.
I could hear "what child is this" n my head when it played and was like WAIT WHATT
This is really cool! I saw Six last year and was very surprised by it, it's awesome to see you analyze it here.
Please please never stop making videos!!!! These are incredible, Howard!
Brilliant! Thanks for going into all this luscious detail for us!
This all reminds me of the saying "England can exist without a king, but never without a Queen"
Did you know about the established titles scam? Just so you know, you shouldn't trust them
I didn’t know green sleeves before this and thought that they where going to talk about Anne’s green sleeves acting as some remote control of the show basically inverted green screen chromakey where a computer looks for cues from them to sync everything
That is exactly where I thought this was headed too! 😂😂😂
Loved this analysis!! Thank you so much for this!
Sir....THANK YOU. Something about this musical has my 90's inner self all aflutter and seeing you make a video about it is making my day. Now, as always, excuse me as I go re-listen to the cast album again after watching this.
Ohhhh, very clever! Looking forward to seeing Six in January when it hits Brisbane! Funny thing is- I really, really did not want to like this musical! I thought it was a stupid idea- I actually have history degree majoring in Tudor England so I'm taking this musical rather personally, haha! (PS Anne was INNOCENT, victim of circumstance!)
Oh interesting! I'd be curious what YOU think of the show, knowing everything you know!
Anne was a political pawn, she had no say in anything! I find it a poetic justice it was of her own blood that sorted England out afterwards.
Agree re Boleyn’s innocence. Her crime was not basically having a male child. I appreciate the re-casting of Howard’s story and feel so sad about her short and tragic life.
"Mate, what was I _meant_ to do?"
Oh man, you’re in for such a treat! It’s very fun and uplifting. I saw it in Adelaide with a friend recently and liked it so much I dragged my husband back to see it again (he loved it too).
Buuuut you are gonna have to suspend a bit of your historical knowledge 😆
This video randomly came up in my recommended. Loved it. Was interested in the musical so I listened to the soundtrack. Thank you for introducing me to SIX!
Ohhhhh, you left the best for the end of the SHO! 🤩 You two are my faves. Congrats to both!
Your videos are truly amazing as always!❤
Brilliant analysis again, Howard! And what a surprise to see B’way Sho show up in the end as your partner in crime lol!!
LOL...Broadway TH-camrs assemble!
Imagine make a college essay that good
I love this musical, and the insights you provide help me love it more. Love the location scenes too
This is an incredible analysis! Loved it!
I think that king Henry might have wrote the song for Anne but it was a privet thing until it was found and published
Amazing! I couldn't even tell why that melody is so familiar to me when I first saw the show yesterday, but I definitely didn't notice the hidden reference in the song melody!
I feel like you should know that the established titles thing is a complete scam. There was actually a recent court case over it. You aren't a Lord because you own such a small plot of land.
The certificate has the wrong animal for Scottish and lion which is England and Scottish is a unicorn because a unicorn is only natural predator for a lion
LOVED THE VIDEO!
Excellent explanation!! I never realize how complicated the music is!
Ah, the song of HK public listening exams.
This is so brilliant! Thanks for having me!! :)
Thank YOU!
Love, love, LOVE this!! 💚
You got a sub because of how brilliantly yet simply you broke this down!
Yay, appreciate the sub!
SIX is one of my all-time favorite musicals. Thank you for this! I can't believe I didn't notice this already.
I've blogged thousands of words about Six the Musical (mostly about the historical references in the costumes and songs) and somehow had never caught this! I had always wondered about the dissonance in "wi-i-ives" in Ex-Wives and am absolutely delighted to get a good explanation for this. Brilliant work as always!
Whenever you were talking about how HenryTheEighth wasn’t famous for himself but because of his wives I was like. That’s true.
I don't understand musical theory/notations but these types of videos are always fascinating!!
Thanks for making this video! I love your deconstruction. I hope you do more SIX vids since as you said in the intro, there's a lot to unpack!
Oh yes, I think there might be more coming...
you have no idea how traumatised i was when i heard greensleeves in six
oh god all the exam memories…
YES!
haha same
the way we are playing green sleeves for band and we JUST got the music on monday. what a coincidence of this video being recommended bc i’ve never even look it up before
Wow, this is brilliant!!
Exactly what I was looking for, I knew there was a music theory explanation for this. Thank you!!
This video was amazing, thank you! I have absolutely no knowledge of music but I always thought the Ex Wives song sounded a bit off - so interesting.
I find it so interesting how you say that the tune is used despite not making sense. Maybe that’s why it was used. To show how Henry’s “love” for them was a lie. And I just noticed how the part of the tune repeated the most is “Alas my love, you do me wrong”. Really gives you something to think about. 🤨
Thank you for all the great videos Lord Howard Ho!
I kept hearing Greensleeves in the “Ex-Wives” song but I hadn’t heard any other songs and had no idea.
I love that sort of thing so much!! Thanks for this analysis
Absolutely amazing, also your absolutely right, it’s messed up how history talks about the king when he’s only famous for his wives, who should be the ones to be talked about historically
Yaaaaasss so glad you're a Six person!
music theory is so amazing and complex. boy i do not miss studying it. keep up the good work
Hey Howard, would really love for you to look at songs from the Starkid musicals. Maybe from The Guy Who Didn't Like Musicals, Black Friday, The Nightmare Time series or Christmas Carol VHS. Would be so intriguing to hear you analyse their songs!
I love Team Starkid! Though I haven't done any full-on analysis yet, I did talk about The Guy Who Didn't Like Musicals a little in this video: th-cam.com/video/kPaTRRbxW64/w-d-xo.html
Amazing musical and video!
Established Titles is just a novelty, practically a scam. There is nothing legal about it. It's like buying a star.
It's more of a charity of sorts. Your primary purpose of buying it is to help nature by reclaiming land to prevent deforestation, but the "lord" things are more of random benefits.
My dad plays the guitar and he has some songs he always plays. Well, I didn't know the name of all of the songs, I just >know< them when I listen. It's so fun to think that I literally grew up hearing my father play green sleves and just discovered it was green sleeve after watching six, searching about it on google and then fiding it on an old vinyl disc and finally listening to it
For me, it's the songs my mother played on the piano. Whenever I hear those songs, her version is the one in my head.
@@HowardHoMusic ooh, that's amazing 🥺 I also have my father's version in my head verytime I hear it.
It's magical to know some songs can be special for different people all around the world
this is so fascinating
I dont understand music but I like breakdowns esp musical ones
amazinggggg. would love to see a video on “all u wanna do” :O
I'm definitely considering it!
How timely, I just saw Six twice here in Orlando, and now here we are!💜
Lucky you!!
This is really fun to analyze...actually Greensleeves was the first melody O leaned to play in Piano when I was 5 and I prepared it for a talent show in school...this melody is special to me
First off, you rock!! I'm not a music person, but I find your analyses so interesting! I binged the ones on Hamilton. Secondly, I bought some land in Scotland! Such a cool sponsor and a neat way for them to raise money. - Lady Lydia
You're not actually a lady. Established Titles is a scam based in Hong Kong.
Thank you! I've discovered this musical in the past 24 hours, and I've been confused why "be 6 wives" sounded wrong when all the other music is phenomenal. This is such a cool reason!