They haven't made it in probably ten years, but Samuel Adams used to make an Imperial Double Bock. 9.5%, ridiculously rich and creamy. It was my introduction to the style, and I have been chasing that high ever since. I have yet to find an equivalent.
Brad's definitely giving off Dr Doofenshmirtz vibes with the beer names. You guys always look like you're having such a laugh making these videos. Just a couple of mates chatting s#!t and loving life. Keep it up gents. Love and beer.
I was actually reading about salvator in Ron Patterson's homebrews guide to vintage beer and the simple reason they all have the cheesy names is becuase paulaner trademarked the name despite it being considered by many as a style at that point in an attempt to kill competition but all it did was inspire a whole family of "ator" beers :D
Can't believe I've drank a beer that Jonny hasn't (Maximator) ! Done all of them apart from the Lowenbrau and they're all great. Usually drinking these Oct-Feb time normally though. Surprised Jonny didn't have Aventinus Tap 6 in the line up as he's mentioned in the past it's one of his faves.
I tried a doppelbock called Unfrozen Caveman Lager by a brewery near me Belching Beaver, immediately loved it and I’ve been looking for more doppelbock style beers since but haven’t found any at my local stores
One of the first beers that helped me realize I love dark lagers and ales was the dopplebock. Dopplebock is my personal favorite style of lager, and I’m thankful to drink it year round. Never even heard there was a seasonality to it. Thank you for teaching me something new! Some American breweries just call it double bock.
Excellent vid as always chaps. Great shout @ 23:16 for UK producers - Utopian's Maibock, "Rainbock" just took a Gold SIBA award in South West yesterday and about to be released any minute now I believe.
Hi guys, my first ever comment. I grew up in Philadelphia USA and love troegennnator and had no clue how uncommon the style is. Thanks for the history lesson, beer geek in nyc now but with London family. Looking fwd to coming there. Cheers
Nice work, Mates! I love when you're both together in the videos. You balance each other out, sort of like Lennon and McCartney. You're the Beatles of Beer!
I love the Schneider Weisse Aventinus, Weizen Doppelbock, 8.2%. Amazing tasting beer! Also the Korbinian and the Asam Bock are 2 absolutely delicious beers! Havent tried others so far. Not sure i want to. These are all i need! 😁
Troegs just expanded again. They continue to be one of the greatest breweries with their fantastic originals and continuing to expand with hazy IPAs but still putting out great lager beers.
Always s great day when I see you guys dropped a new video. Bocks were one of my fist and favorite forays into German beer. I loved the Sam Adams Triple Bock and moved on to Celebrator. Can't find Celebrator as much anymore.
I'm not into lagers much but have always preferred the bock to the blonde lager style. The doppelbock in particular has always felt particularly tasty and satisfying to me. I think it's an underrated style. Incredible the Germans have made it a session style beer. I wouldn't get very far drinking those by the liter!
was at starkbierfest a few years back, and it is dangerous business. You drink 3 beers and walk around thinking you've had 3 beers, but you've had the alcohol equivalent to 3 bottles of wine. The beers are drinkable enough that you go for the fourth as well.
Your intuition might lead you to believe that these darker malted beers would be a more fall/harvest beer, but the roasting process allows the grains to survive longer over the winter months. So come springtime, this might be all that would have been traditionally left to brew fresh beer.
Hi gents! May I request a video of a guide to different hops and what flavour profile they give. Not really a video on TH-cam for that as far as I know. Would be great to see
@@TheCraftBeerChannel could always do a mini series so you could split it up. Get it might be a bit overwhelming. There are a lot! Would really love to see it. Could just do holy trinity with beers to showcase each!
I do agree with your rating of those beers, for the top three. I actually never got to try the bottom two, though we can get Spaten here in CT. Talking about Einbeck Brewery, I had their Maibock a few days ago, and that is my favorite Maibock.
My village micro brewery in Cambridgeshire does a 7.5% Doppelbock called "Potaytor", it's a damn good approximation of a German Doppelbock, as I've have plenty of different ones over there to compare it to.
Always enjoy a Maibock. Besides my usual crate of Uerige, I always had a few of Einbeckers or Andechs on hand when I lived over there. Some of the other stuff was mad, visited Kulmbach to try it. Heavy stuff, not the prettiest brewery town either?
@@TheCraftBeerChannel on a more serious note: we have a similar thing here in Hamburg. It's called "Senatsbockanstich" where the Senatsbock (a dunkler Bock) is tapped. Loads of fun and the brewers wear top hats! It's a tradition that was revived a couple of years ago... If you ever feel like northern Germany in January?!? 😬
I love the Doppelbock beers,the Weihenstephaner Korbinian is my favourite. I’ve heard good things about the Ayinger Celebrator, I haven’t find that one yet. Fun fact: The Paulaner Salvator was the first doppelbock hence why the Paulaner Salvator carries the name ending with -or, the rest of the doppelbocks can’t carry a name ending with -or because the Salvator is the first doppelbock, to protect the name of their beer. That is according to Paulaner.
Doing my first Doppelbock soon. Going to pitch it onto the yeast cake from a Helles ferment, then lager it until Oktoberfest! The wait is going to be killer.
Making me want to brew a Floorinaror. Malty, toasty, roasty, and 8 or 9% ABV. Dang near a barley wine, but not 😁. I wouldn’t want to make it as thick, and syrupy as a barley wine though.
I live in Ontario Canada and visited a local LCBO (allegedly the largest buyer of alcohol in the world) and I found a can (if the LCBO want it in cans, you put it in cans 🙄) of the first beer and it was only 7.9%, not 8.5%. I feel like I’ve been done. Isn’t export strength normally higher? It was very very nice but I can’t imagine drinking several litres of it though……crazy boy. 😜😂
As an Austrian, I know more brightly golden Doppelbocks than dark ones, e.g. Schloss Eggenberg Urbock or Freistädter Imperator. It is new to me that they are all supposed to be dark.
Timely! I just picked up a growler of doppelbock from my local craft brewery. Also - kind of surprised by you guys treating 8.5% as a seriously high beer, but I guess that's because US craft breweries are really pushing the ABV envelope today, even the IPAs are increasingly 8 and up... and because I drink wee heavys for preference.
Not really a style I like but I think Utopians like you mentioned is probably the best one I've had which I think just offended a lot of Germans. I like the Ayinger, I think it's their best beer and I generally much rather have a Marzen or a Kellerbier or something.
More importantly, what happened to the Belgium IPA What a great brew that has sadly succumbed to the west coast new England hazy ipa craze.. Bring back the Belgium IPA please
It always baffles me how German and Belgian styles, like Dubbel and Doppelbock, have a reputation for being strong while nobody would classify American styles like the Double IPA as strong as a first characteristic. They're of similar strength! And welcome back to the video, Braddus!
Haha I think it is because the German beers are still incredibly pint-able. As for Belgian... I think its an old rep from when Americans didn't make things that big
Seriously. I'm drinking a 8.5% IPA right now. I don't consider these beers that strong. I should try a doppelbock again though. I usually find them too sweet.
@@TheCraftBeerChannel "Not a lager"??? I'm confused,.. isn't THIS video about "Doppelbocks"? I don't see anything in the title about "lagers". Aventinus claims to be a "doppelbock". Is the "WEIZEN" doppelbock the difference here? Are THESE five doppelbocks "LAGER doppelbocks" as opposed to "WHEAT doppelbocks"? Also, what is "lager"-y about these five (or any strong/dark beer)? The dictionary definition of lager "a kind of beer, effervescent and light in color and body" seems a million miles from these five.
VAXXINATOR...currently on draught at my local pub. 7.8% ABV, 20 IBU. Very malt-forward, rather deep, but not as deep as some double bocks I've had. I prefer this over CELEBRATOR which is only available here in bottles. On marketing ploy is hanging a small white billy goat on the neck of each bottle...somewhere there are ladies with charm bracelets made up entirely of them. I found the Celebrator to be much more hoppy, but that could have been due to the age of the bottle, close on 18 months or so. I've been drinking the VAXX of late, my usual is a Honey Tripel. My palate was temporarily ruined as I'm (mostly) recovering from flu. The pub will be open again tomorrow Tuesday and I'm mostly recovered, so if I have a chance to go (and remember to think about it) I'll give it a good set of tests for qualities. As for finding this page again to comment on it...well, that's a crap shoot. My Bavarian Grandfather had told me that bocks were traditionally made with the rest of the winter's grain stocks, as they had to keep some back for replanting in case of bad weather...when the crop had proved to be growing, the old grain was used to make the beer. Also for it's nutritional qualities.
An aged bottle should be much less hoppy! Bitterness and hop aroma fades with age while malt derived flavours tend to be more robust. Who makes Vaxxinator?
I’m having a weihenstephaner “korbinian” dopplebock as I watch, here in Lewiston, New York. Cheers beer brothers!🍻👍🏻❤️
They haven't made it in probably ten years, but Samuel Adams used to make an Imperial Double Bock. 9.5%, ridiculously rich and creamy. It was my introduction to the style, and I have been chasing that high ever since. I have yet to find an equivalent.
Many years ago Sam Adams also made a Triple Bock (early 90s).
Brad's definitely giving off Dr Doofenshmirtz vibes with the beer names.
You guys always look like you're having such a laugh making these videos. Just a couple of mates chatting s#!t and loving life. Keep it up gents. Love and beer.
Had the celebrator and the ayinger winter bock and they were amazing drinks and got me right into bocks
Wonderfulnator episode
Puns right at the start of the video. Well Bock to the video 😂
Celebrator! Sooo good!
Brad and Jonny at peak silliness. Love it
I was actually reading about salvator in Ron Patterson's homebrews guide to vintage beer and the simple reason they all have the cheesy names is becuase paulaner trademarked the name despite it being considered by many as a style at that point in an attempt to kill competition but all it did was inspire a whole family of "ator" beers :D
This is the reason I came to the comments today. Needed to know why they had those similar names!
Great episode. Celebrator is my absolute fave. Thought I’d hit the jackpot when it was on offer at the bottle shop due to lack of demand…
Too bad you guys didn’t have Weihenstephaner’s Korbinian as well… cheers.
Can't believe I've drank a beer that Jonny hasn't (Maximator) ! Done all of them apart from the Lowenbrau and they're all great. Usually drinking these Oct-Feb time normally though.
Surprised Jonny didn't have Aventinus Tap 6 in the line up as he's mentioned in the past it's one of his faves.
Just finished a few bottles of celebrator. Was really looking forward to trying doppelbocks and my god it didnt disappoint. Suuuuuuch a good beer
The Celebtator is the only one I can find and it’s one of my top beers ever. 👍🏻
I tried a doppelbock called Unfrozen Caveman Lager by a brewery near me Belching Beaver, immediately loved it and I’ve been looking for more doppelbock style beers since but haven’t found any at my local stores
OK, than you should try Schneider Eisbock.... a special Beer with 12% alc. 🎉🤣🍺🍻🤪🤪🤪🤯🥳🤩🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪
One of the first beers that helped me realize I love dark lagers and ales was the dopplebock. Dopplebock is my personal favorite style of lager, and I’m thankful to drink it year round. Never even heard there was a seasonality to it. Thank you for teaching me something new! Some American breweries just call it double bock.
Galibot is a new brewery from North-East France that specializes in bottom fermentation. Their dopplebock is called Imperator, and it is delicious!
Excellent vid as always chaps. Great shout @ 23:16 for UK producers - Utopian's Maibock, "Rainbock" just took a Gold SIBA award in South West yesterday and about to be released any minute now I believe.
Hi guys, my first ever comment. I grew up in Philadelphia USA and love troegennnator and had no clue how uncommon the style is. Thanks for the history lesson, beer geek in nyc now but with London family. Looking fwd to coming there. Cheers
You guys are awesome. Can't wait for the next beer tasting.
Funny you brought up Troegenator. Just had one two nights ago and it was amazing.
Shout out Brother Bananaboat. Top lad. Prost 🍻
"a busker on the street rather than a symphony" ha love that
Thanks for sharing. Wish I could get a hold of some of these beers! Sometimes it sucks living across the pond were I can't get these beers. Cheers!
great video -superb range to review
Nice work, Mates! I love when you're both together in the videos. You balance each other out, sort of like Lennon and McCartney. You're the Beatles of Beer!
Love a doppelbock! Need to try my double decocted example!
I love the Schneider Weisse Aventinus, Weizen Doppelbock, 8.2%. Amazing tasting beer! Also the Korbinian and the Asam Bock are 2 absolutely delicious beers!
Havent tried others so far. Not sure i want to. These are all i need! 😁
Troegs just expanded again. They continue to be one of the greatest breweries with their fantastic originals and continuing to expand with hazy IPAs but still putting out great lager beers.
Unfortunately, we can't get any of their stuff in NC any more. Pity...
PA brewery represent! Do love Troegs!
Man, had celebrator some years ago in 4 pack. Always keeping my eyes open for it.
Always s great day when I see you guys dropped a new video. Bocks were one of my fist and favorite forays into German beer. I loved the Sam Adams Triple Bock and moved on to Celebrator. Can't find Celebrator as much anymore.
love Jonny awkwardly diverting his eyes when Bradley describes the beer as 'balanced' at 16:39
Andechs Klosters double bock dunkel is imho the best version of this beer style!
Good brewery trip too.
Pretty much every beer they make is excellent. Great brewery!
I'm not into lagers much but have always preferred the bock to the blonde lager style. The doppelbock in particular has always felt particularly tasty and satisfying to me. I think it's an underrated style. Incredible the Germans have made it a session style beer. I wouldn't get very far drinking those by the liter!
Very good chapter!!! Could you share the sources, its for my homework (?)?
Ayinger is amazing. They make high quality classics.
Got my hands on the Maxinator here in Australia. Absolutely banging beer!
I was hoping you would have put Samichlaus Classic in the tasting lineup.
was at starkbierfest a few years back, and it is dangerous business. You drink 3 beers and walk around thinking you've had 3 beers, but you've had the alcohol equivalent to 3 bottles of wine. The beers are drinkable enough that you go for the fourth as well.
Good stuff! Have you considered making a video on beer foam characteristics?
Your intuition might lead you to believe that these darker malted beers would be a more fall/harvest beer, but the roasting process allows the grains to survive longer over the winter months. So come springtime, this might be all that would have been traditionally left to brew fresh beer.
Hope Brad Ubers home after these work sessions 😵
Great vid, more dark beers please: milds and brown ales need to make a comeback
Hi gents! May I request a video of a guide to different hops and what flavour profile they give. Not really a video on TH-cam for that as far as I know. Would be great to see
Sure would! We have flirted with the idea many times, not sure why we never made it. Too many hops!?
@@TheCraftBeerChannel could always do a mini series so you could split it up. Get it might be a bit overwhelming. There are a lot!
Would really love to see it. Could just do holy trinity with beers to showcase each!
" I distributed alot of beers through my face"😄Celebrator is my no 1 if I don't find dark IPA around; preferably Lilla Edet Craftwerk 2.0
Maybe a follow up video of English brewed doppelbocks!?
Braybrookes’ Radiator doppelbock is exceptional, surely there are others
I do agree with your rating of those beers, for the top three. I actually never got to try the bottom two, though we can get Spaten here in CT. Talking about Einbeck Brewery, I had their Maibock a few days ago, and that is my favorite Maibock.
My village micro brewery in Cambridgeshire does a 7.5% Doppelbock called "Potaytor", it's a damn good approximation of a German Doppelbock, as I've have plenty of different ones over there to compare it to.
Always enjoy a Maibock. Besides my usual crate of Uerige, I always had a few of Einbeckers or Andechs on hand when I lived over there. Some of the other stuff was mad, visited Kulmbach to try it. Heavy stuff, not the prettiest brewery town either?
Eat your heart out Bert & Ernie… first we drink beer, then we go to bed 😂
When you do these reviews would you be able to post a few days before I’d drink along for sure
does brad say "balanced" now just to stir you up, johnny? haha
I came for the clips of drunk Jonny at Starkbierfest, was not disappointed 😂😂😂
The gift that keeps on giving.
@@TheCraftBeerChannel on a more serious note: we have a similar thing here in Hamburg. It's called "Senatsbockanstich" where the Senatsbock (a dunkler Bock) is tapped. Loads of fun and the brewers wear top hats! It's a tradition that was revived a couple of years ago... If you ever feel like northern Germany in January?!? 😬
@@JohannesReppin northern beer aint it tho
kloster andechs dunkel doppelbock is nice
Love me some bock beers!
I sell 3 off them in arctic Norway and i agree. Celebrator from Ayinger is best.
I love the Doppelbock beers,the Weihenstephaner Korbinian is my favourite. I’ve heard good things about the Ayinger Celebrator, I haven’t find that one yet. Fun fact: The Paulaner Salvator was the first doppelbock hence why the Paulaner Salvator carries the name ending with -or, the rest of the doppelbocks can’t carry a name ending with -or because the Salvator is the first doppelbock, to protect the name of their beer. That is according to Paulaner.
Korbinian is great I love it. Maximator is my favorite though.
@@threefiddyone I haven’t tried the Maximator yet. It looks great!
@@Jannes-pj4cd We get it here in the US from time to time. You'll love it.
@@threefiddyone I haven’t seen that one in the Netherlands yet, which is the country where I live.
Korbinian is my favorite too! 🍻
Doing my first Doppelbock soon. Going to pitch it onto the yeast cake from a Helles ferment, then lager it until Oktoberfest! The wait is going to be killer.
Making me want to brew a Floorinaror. Malty, toasty, roasty, and 8 or 9% ABV. Dang near a barley wine, but not 😁. I wouldn’t want to make it as thick, and syrupy as a barley wine though.
If you are in germany. Frankfurt. Must visit oberursel Brauhaus. Fastenbock!! Nur in der Fastenzeit. Das Beste.🍻🍻🍻🇩🇪
Lucky to have Tröegenator in cans at all our grocery stores, as they’re a local (PA, USA) brewer. Still, Salvatore…❤️❤️❤️
17:17 Sechs Maß; i' verreck! Net schlecht 👍
You missed one of the two best ones (and the one with the most amazing malt profile ever) - Andechs Doppelbock Dunkel.
Celebrator is my favorite bock.
starkbierfest is oktoberfest for professionals 🤣
Hey, wait a minute... Is Johnny also the actor who portrays an IT security double agent in the HR series 'The Inside Man'?
No. But a double agent would say that.
Weihenstephaner Korbinian.......if you can find it.
You should have brought an Innovator from your trip to Giesing!
What glasses are you using?
Perscription?
Celebrator probably had the pronounced taste, but Paulaner Salvator is my go to now
I live in Ontario Canada and visited a local LCBO (allegedly the largest buyer of alcohol in the world) and I found a can (if the LCBO want it in cans, you put it in cans 🙄) of the first beer and it was only 7.9%, not 8.5%. I feel like I’ve been done. Isn’t export strength normally higher? It was very very nice but I can’t imagine drinking several litres of it though……crazy boy. 😜😂
I believe the draft version is lower, so presuming they sent the draft stuff over and it was canned there, maybe?
@@TheCraftBeerChannel ah, that makes sense. It was still excellent beer though so thanks for making me aware of it. Love and beer
I’m French guys and don’t worry you said croissant pretty good from the start ! 😊
As an Austrian, I know more brightly golden Doppelbocks than dark ones, e.g. Schloss Eggenberg Urbock or Freistädter Imperator. It is new to me that they are all supposed to be dark.
Timely! I just picked up a growler of doppelbock from my local craft brewery. Also - kind of surprised by you guys treating 8.5% as a seriously high beer, but I guess that's because US craft breweries are really pushing the ABV envelope today, even the IPAs are increasingly 8 and up... and because I drink wee heavys for preference.
I think that reflects on America more than us! Also, traditionally wee heavy wouldn't have been as strong as 8.5%!
@@TheCraftBeerChannel Probably And again wee heavys over here often run into the 12s
Really surprised that Andechs doppel didn't get an honorable mention
Not really a style I like but I think Utopians like you mentioned is probably the best one I've had which I think just offended a lot of Germans. I like the Ayinger, I think it's their best beer and I generally much rather have a Marzen or a Kellerbier or something.
Being a Pittsburgh boy I drinkTroegs troegenator on nights I really wanna tie one on. 7 or 8 is my limit on beers that strong.
no aventinus?
Aventinus is a Weizen-Dopplebock.
No Aventinus?
Aventinus is a Weizen-Dopplebock.
More importantly, what happened to the Belgium IPA
What a great brew that has sadly succumbed to the west coast new England hazy ipa craze..
Bring back the Belgium IPA please
Now that we have the context, last week’s podcast starts making more sense.
watching this at 0.75 playback speed = podcast episode🤣
did you noticed, that Paulaner was bought by Heineken a few years ago?
A good 15 years ago or so - Heineken only own 30% of the holding company that owns Paulaner though.... the corporate world is wild.
It always baffles me how German and Belgian styles, like Dubbel and Doppelbock, have a reputation for being strong while nobody would classify American styles like the Double IPA as strong as a first characteristic. They're of similar strength! And welcome back to the video, Braddus!
Any chance of craft beer channel making soghrum beer?
Haha I think it is because the German beers are still incredibly pint-able. As for Belgian... I think its an old rep from when Americans didn't make things that big
Seriously. I'm drinking a 8.5% IPA right now. I don't consider these beers that strong. I should try a doppelbock again though. I usually find them too sweet.
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Soghrum beer ?
Read an article how monks would drink only doppelblock for lent, when a modern reporter recreated the diet he lost 20kg
So they didn't JUST drink beer, they would have eaten breakfast and dinner - beer just got them through the day.
Upsetting that Tay Zonday isn't in the comments on this one
Haven't done a video of 5 mins of how to clarify beer
Paulaner 7,9 - Hacker 8,1
Brad looks like a guy who’s nickname is Bock
Croissant?
Bock sounds like Bok in Turkish, which literally means shit😁😂 So we always use it as a joke to talk about bocks..
American's say "kras-aunT". Brits are closer to "kwason(t)". French more like "qua-son". "Qua" as in "quack.
I must have got a dodgy bottle of Celebrator as I thought it was very tasteless and underwhelming
celebrator is two level up price level than these another 4
Quissonan(t)
Guys! We can’t read the labels. Can you try not to say “that one” and actually give the name when you’re speaking about them. 😂
Noooo,.. No Aventinus Weizen Doppelbock!!!
What kind of insanity is this!
A different style of beer! Not a lager. Will cover them at some point.
@@TheCraftBeerChannel
"Not a lager"??? I'm confused,.. isn't THIS video about "Doppelbocks"? I don't see anything in the title about "lagers".
Aventinus claims to be a "doppelbock". Is the "WEIZEN" doppelbock the difference here? Are THESE five doppelbocks "LAGER doppelbocks" as opposed to "WHEAT doppelbocks"? Also, what is "lager"-y about these five (or any strong/dark beer)? The dictionary definition of lager "a kind of beer, effervescent and light in color and body" seems a million miles from these five.
VAXXINATOR...currently on draught at my local pub. 7.8% ABV, 20 IBU. Very malt-forward, rather deep, but not as deep as some double bocks I've had.
I prefer this over CELEBRATOR which is only available here in bottles. On marketing ploy is hanging a small white billy goat on the neck of each bottle...somewhere there are ladies with charm bracelets made up entirely of them. I found the Celebrator to be much more hoppy, but that could have been due to the age of the bottle, close on 18 months or so.
I've been drinking the VAXX of late, my usual is a Honey Tripel. My palate was temporarily ruined as I'm (mostly) recovering from flu.
The pub will be open again tomorrow Tuesday and I'm mostly recovered, so if I have a chance to go (and remember to think about it) I'll give it a good set of tests for qualities.
As for finding this page again to comment on it...well, that's a crap shoot.
My Bavarian Grandfather had told me that bocks were traditionally made with the rest of the winter's grain stocks, as they had to keep some back for replanting in case of bad weather...when the crop had proved to be growing, the old grain was used to make the beer. Also for it's nutritional qualities.
Oh, and continue your Men's Shed commentary; is it a requirement that you have to be standing for this?
An aged bottle should be much less hoppy! Bitterness and hop aroma fades with age while malt derived flavours tend to be more robust. Who makes Vaxxinator?
I dont understand European beer much so thanks a lot for doing this!