That's because at the core these people have not changed they are a little more cunning because they are now in the minority and an ever increasing minority which supported Brexit but they are still the same old bigots they have been for decades.
There's even more history here than some might think. A few years ago, a film was released about the Shankill Butchers. While it depicted scenes of horrific violence, what ruffled some Loyalist feathers the most was the suggestion that some of the gang were gay. Jeffrey didn't fall far from the tree.
@@David-ni1pg 3 years ago i made that message.. funny still getting replys.. I think it was the fact that the public paid for it made it hot for him....Or else he woulda went on pornhub lol
@@seanmcwilliams6848 Could you please send me more info on this? It wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if it is true. Jeffrey has always been full of shit.
@@edwardmulholland7912 its a well known fact his apartment in Westminster was used as a sex den for over a year his wife threw him out and beat him the police were called but it's all been hushed up he's a hypocrite and he's not the only one.
I hope if he is convicted he feels the full weight of the law and the Christians/Presbyterians in the. community don't start all the forgiveness shite. This certainly wasn't covered in the good Friday agreement.
What particular 'anti-Christian' principle does 'Queer Space' promote? Given that the founder of the faith habitually kept the company of socil outcasts?
I’m a Christian but I also have a Libertarian view towards this, I think the bakery should have the right to refuse as long as they aren’t hurting anyone, I also think people being gay is nothing to do with anyone and they can do whatever they want as long as its legal, consensual and not hurting anyone, the DUP should really rethink their mindset
@@user-go3jv8rw7i The bakery did not refuse service to a customer because he was gay. They refused to bake a cake in support of gay marriage. Learn the difference! If a black bakery refused to bake a cake for a white person because he wanted the cake to say "Support the KKK", would that be considered racist to the customer? Of course not!
As a Welshman looking in and just briefly reading up on this gang, these people weren't right for doing what they did or am I missing something? Murder is never right no matter it's context or whichever side of the fence you sit
I'm straight but I think that Gay people the right to live as everybody else. They are still human beings who cares if 2 men or 2 women for that matter fall in love with each other. That is up to them. We have a right to choose who we want to be with. I happen to have Gay friends and I think the world of them
Pride comes before a fall. Judge not that ye be not judged. 🙃 Jesus took to task the self-righteous hypocrites of His day and gave grace to the humble.
I'm Irish. Donaldson is right. That bakery shouldn't have to write that on the cake. If someone went to baker who is gay and asked for a cake which says, "homosexuality is wrong ", should the gay baker go ahead with it? I believe the gay baker should not have to. I also believe that the Christian bakers should not have had to go ahead with the message on the cake..
I can see the point you are trying to make but the fact is the order wasn't for a cake that stated / implied 'Christianity is wrong'; it was for a cake with a personal message that was in no way designed to offend anyone.. The bakery jumped on their high horse in an attempt to show everyone how righteous they are but in doing so implied they are refusing to complete the order because ' homosexuality is wrong'.
He did not suggest there is any moral equivalence between homosexuals and the Shankhill butchers, that's a rather tabloid headline. He gave an example of when a baker would be justified in refusing to decorate a cake celebrating something they found deeply wrong, in order to demonstrate the principle that a baker can justly refuse to decorate a cake in a particular way they find offensive.
I'm more libertarian in this so I think people should be able to refuse service. I also think that you can hold protests outside their business to let potential customers on the street know just how disgraceful & bigoted the business is.
ok but you're business cant make use of anything tax payers paid for. so your business cant use the roads, water systems, electtrical grids, internet, etc. or you can just bake the gay people a cake and stop being a big baby
The same with most bible-bashing idealogues. If, when one looks into their deeper souls one often finds most disturbing content. God alone knows what has to be revealed in the upcoming court case of Donaldson. I suspect hypocracy writ large.
it was a crap equivalent but a bunch of degenerates forcing people to do something they don’t want is a shitty thing to do. And look at the shape of the lgbt movement complete nounces
I see more people have unthinkingly fallen into the left/liberal well of identity politics - just where they want you to be. "The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum." -Noam Chomsky
You're a dafty. No one is forcing them to have a bakery but if you run a business you have to have meet certain standards. You can't start being racist, sectarian, sexist, or homophobic to people.
The Gay couple purposely went round to every bakery waiting for someone to refuse to bake a gay cake, wtf who does that? I'll tell you someone filled with hate. Donaldson used a pretty dumb comparison, but you should have the right to refuse service to someone if it's your own business. For example no shoes, no shirt, no service.
@@XXXmolseyXXX They purposely went round to every bakery in town in hopes someone would refuse just to start drama, honestly who does something like that? Fascist twat wants to force Christians to make gay cakes, trying telling Mohammed to do the same already the Christians won't stone you to death
This clip has aged well. 😱
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That's because at the core these people have not changed they are a little more cunning because they are now in the minority and an ever increasing minority which supported Brexit but they are still the same old bigots they have been for decades.
@IBSSnapey Yeah they have gotten more rancid with time now that their hegemony in NI has ended for good.
He will know all about homosexual acts when the local queen's pay a visit to his cell 😅
Sir Jeffrey - will never forget Good Friday 2024 and on 12 July next he will be wearing his Orange Man's Sash and marching around his Cell .
Orange is the new black.. for Sir Jeff
He will be wearing the odd orange man as well. Never mind the sash. Lol
And now he’s on sex charges
World class hypocrisy.
Nonce.
Well thats not very nonce ..srry nice is it ...they prefer being called peados ..or michal jackson
There's even more history here than some might think. A few years ago, a film was released about the Shankill Butchers. While it depicted scenes of horrific violence, what ruffled some Loyalist feathers the most was the suggestion that some of the gang were gay. Jeffrey didn't fall far from the tree.
leathuru sure olde Jeffery was caught claiming mp expenses for porn,, he can fuck off
jackmanorishe Jeffrey Donaldson watching pornography - there goes an image my mid-morning coffee could have done without.
leathuru Claiming it haha watching porn and we pay for it
@@jackmanorishe *You don't understand that Porn is vital to his "Research" as an MP*
@@David-ni1pg 3 years ago i made that message.. funny still getting replys.. I think it was the fact that the public paid for it made it hot for him....Or else he woulda went on pornhub lol
Isn't karma a bitch!
Hes an absolute horror 🧟🧟
Jeffrey would know all about the homosexuality. 👌
Scooped in his flat in London with a bloke he was knocking off for over a year.
@@seanmcwilliams6848
Could you please send me more info on this? It wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if it is true. Jeffrey has always been full of shit.
@@edwardmulholland7912 its a well known fact his apartment in Westminster was used as a sex den for over a year his wife threw him out and beat him the police were called but it's all been hushed up he's a hypocrite and he's not the only one.
@@seanmcwilliams6848
Thanks for the info, I could well believe it. Anybody who is that homophobic is always suspicious.
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How many more lodges are involved in this deviant behaviour including the ones in Scotland?
Well well well.
Is it not a great justice he has been eventually found out !
And look at him now.. charged for sexual abuse. Hypocrite.
The DUP ladies and Gentleman 😂😂😂. Aged
Definitely Unionist Paedophile.
Just shows beware of the holier than thou bible bashers .. the irony
The gays made him do it
He will do ok then on the beasts wing in jail !
Jesus christ what is wrong with these people, is there no group they don't hate! Love and respect to all gay people North and South
What is wrong with gays who hate bakeries because they refuse to bake a cake in support of gay marriage?
@@notv_internetuser3789 calibrate ur moral compass
@@eddiestaunton514 Some bakeries do not support gay marriage and do not want to bake a cake in favour of them
@@notv_internetuser3789 ya they are called Protestant bakeries
@@eddiestaunton514 And your point?
This man JD is evil
I hope if he is convicted he feels the full weight of the law and the Christians/Presbyterians in the. community don't start all the forgiveness shite.
This certainly wasn't covered in the good Friday agreement.
Jeffery! What’s it like kicking with the other foot? Karma is a b####.
Well roll the clock forward to April 2024. I'll leave it there.
The DUP claim to want to move forward & then say shit like this smh
Still blocking democracy as we speak
"Where's jeffry" lol lol lol ahloollllha :)
He belongs in Jurassic Park for sure
The complete party DUP are insane, au revoir
The guys been caught lovely 😊 those who hate gay people that much are usually deflecting. He’s the only gay in the uvf village
Haha no way jeffery is straight... he might have a wife just for pretences
He's not the only gay boy in the village witch is very funny in it's self as the village in Belfast is maybe 70 percent dupe Ulster people aka DUP
Little Jeffrey drastically battling against his own 'latent tendencies'. Time to come out of the clossit , Jeffrey.
@@conorfields506 As my former gay landlord used to say of straight men: "Aye, straight into bed with the next man!" ☺
Empty vessels make the most noise.
There is no truth in Jeffrey Donaldson, the is sacked for sexual offenses 😮😮😮
What particular 'anti-Christian' principle does 'Queer Space' promote? Given that the founder of the faith habitually kept the company of socil outcasts?
But were they all homosexual?
Oh Jeffie if I went went up the falls road and asked to put your name on a cake what would happen???
Shoe on the other -
People in glass houses-
Dup 20 years behind everyone else
300
They are at least 40 years behind everyone else!
I’m sure Jeffrey’s seen a few up close
Looks like you were right
@@mikedon5205 Unfortunately some poor child had to suffer because of him and his wife and brother in law. Bigoted snakes they are my friend.
@BrianBoruma1014 yes indeed 👍
@@mikedon5205 Take care brother. Love and Peace from Ireland 🇮🇪
I’m a Christian but I also have a Libertarian view towards this, I think the bakery should have the right to refuse as long as they aren’t hurting anyone, I also think people being gay is nothing to do with anyone and they can do whatever they want as long as its legal, consensual and not hurting anyone, the DUP should really rethink their mindset
should you really be allowed to deny someone service based on something they have no control over?
@@user-go3jv8rw7i If it's their business, they can do what they like at the end of the day even if they are a bunch of backwards bigots.
@@user-go3jv8rw7i yes, and I’m gay and a Republican.
@@user-go3jv8rw7i You shouln't be able to deny anyone service, but at the same time you should be able not to endorse a view that you don't agree with
@@user-go3jv8rw7i The bakery did not refuse service to a customer because he was gay. They refused to bake a cake in support of gay marriage. Learn the difference!
If a black bakery refused to bake a cake for a white person because he wanted the cake to say "Support the KKK", would that be considered racist to the customer? Of course not!
As a Welshman looking in and just briefly reading up on this gang, these people weren't right for doing what they did or am I missing something? Murder is never right no matter it's context or whichever side of the fence you sit
I'm lost here, was jesus in the shankill butchers??
Lol brilliant
I'm straight but I think that Gay people the right to live as everybody else. They are still human beings who cares if 2 men or 2 women for that matter fall in love with each other. That is up to them. We have a right to choose who we want to be with. I happen to have Gay friends and I think the world of them
I had a gay plumber at my house one day. He didn't fix the plumbing. He fucked me.
Pride comes before a fall. Judge not that ye be not judged. 🙃
Jesus took to task the self-righteous hypocrites of His day and gave grace to the humble.
How as a gay man do you come out with shit like that?
What's the end clip from?
Ambrose Hoolihan Billy Maddison
From a Sanctimonious goat
but the shankill butchers were associated with the UDA and its members
priceless!!!! what a nob lol
Oh, protect the kids
I'm Irish. Donaldson is right. That bakery shouldn't have to write that on the cake. If someone went to baker who is gay and asked for a cake which says, "homosexuality is wrong ", should the gay baker go ahead with it? I believe the gay baker should not have to. I also believe that the Christian bakers should not have had to go ahead with the message on the cake..
The should of had a sign up saying no gays. But they didn't and if I can remember correctly they took the order.
I can see the point you are trying to make but the fact is the order wasn't for a cake that stated
/ implied 'Christianity is wrong'; it was for a cake with a personal message that was in no way designed to offend anyone.. The bakery jumped on their high horse in an attempt to show everyone how righteous they are but in doing so implied they are refusing to complete the order because ' homosexuality is wrong'.
Did Noel thompson just say the shankill butchers were murdering criminals?!!
sainglain yep, they were
@@TintedVisionMoviesdidn't know he was vegan
Oh boy...
top bellend
Patrick Holderness h
Not so smug now Jeffrey……Perhaps Karma has taken a few years but……
Good god
tick......tock
Right jer
He did not suggest there is any moral equivalence between homosexuals and the Shankhill butchers, that's a rather tabloid headline. He gave an example of when a baker would be justified in refusing to decorate a cake celebrating something they found deeply wrong, in order to demonstrate the principle that a baker can justly refuse to decorate a cake in a particular way they find offensive.
He should not have made the comparison. He ran straight into a logical fallacy.
Bet he dabbles in the auld homosexual activity '' out of the closet be jasus and in the back dure 🥴
I'm more libertarian in this so I think people should be able to refuse service. I also think that you can hold protests outside their business to let potential customers on the street know just how disgraceful & bigoted the business is.
ok but you're business cant make use of anything tax payers paid for. so your business cant use the roads, water systems, electtrical grids, internet, etc.
or you can just bake the gay people a cake and stop being a big baby
Is Donaldson Daniel O’Donnell’s twin?
I've thought this for 30 years
@@allisnotwhatitseems.Lol 🤣🤣🤣
The Geoff doth protest too much
Jeffery climb down of your daughter and see some sense
The same with most bible-bashing idealogues. If, when one looks into their deeper souls one often finds most disturbing content. God alone knows what has to be revealed in the upcoming court case of Donaldson. I suspect hypocracy writ large.
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a bit of gaslighting here - hes not comparing gay people to the shankill butchers
I don't agree with the lifestyle of gay people , but they are not murderers.
it was a crap equivalent but a bunch of degenerates forcing people to do something they don’t want is a shitty thing to do. And look at the shape of the lgbt movement complete nounces
Lifestyle?
For comparison, what is the heterosexual lifestyle?
@@owenthompson5214 Your bigoted comment has aged well.
I see more people have unthinkingly fallen into the left/liberal well of identity politics - just where they want you to be.
"The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum." -Noam Chomsky
He’s now being exposed as a gay man forced to live in unjustified shame
as if Noam Chomsky would be on your edgy college dorm room argument side
you think you’re smart but can’t distinguish the left from liberals
The Old Left used to be very conservative and homophobic unlike today's fake bourgeois New Left
Tosser
100% agree with Donaldson.
You're a bit daft then
No one should be forced to do something they don't want to. What's daft about that?
You're a dafty. No one is forcing them to have a bakery but if you run a business you have to have meet certain standards. You can't start being racist, sectarian, sexist, or homophobic to people.
The Gay couple purposely went round to every bakery waiting for someone to refuse to bake a gay cake, wtf who does that? I'll tell you someone filled with hate. Donaldson used a pretty dumb comparison, but you should have the right to refuse service to someone if it's your own business. For example no shoes, no shirt, no service.
@@XXXmolseyXXX They purposely went round to every bakery in town in hopes someone would refuse just to start drama, honestly who does something like that? Fascist twat wants to force Christians to make gay cakes, trying telling Mohammed to do the same already the Christians won't stone you to death
Bellend!
i love jd,
tuforu4 Me too
Omg I’m mortified for you this man has now been outed as a closeted gay man. No harm in being gay just don’t lie to yer wife and kids
Hahahaha Typical left wing smear campaign, oh wait thats the purpose of this channel.
+Seán Quinn Well like all Loyalists their thick shit as and debate like 12 year old's. "my estate is better than yours because I say so"
@@johnbull9195 everything you said was false.
You a cumtaster, Paddy?
and let me guess.... someones all butthurt about it (boo hoo).
Jd
Disgusting!!!! the butchers weren't that bad
My respect for the DUP📈📈📈📈📈📈📈
It`s nothing more than a cult, and just like all cults, it`s full of nutters.