everyone is acting like woolly jumpers dont exist, an energy crisis is not a death sentence. people need to learn that they dont need to heat their homes, but instead heat the occupants. its very rare that i will ever turn on a heater because i dress cozy for the winter, too many people have gotten used to walking around their heated homes in shorts and tshirts...
@@efrosvovelu9076 You know, a country that is not self sufficient in any aspect is going to be dependant on the whims of who they depend. Not that I really care about Germany's future. I mean they even came to my country seeking some energy resources and depend more on us, which is good for my country.
Hahaha! Fail! The US and Germany are friends and can trust one another. No one on earth trusts Russia, that's why 95% of Europeans are in an alliance for protection against it. (Except who? Serbia and Belarus, who want to join it. Besides that, Ireland, Switzerland and Austria.) The US and Germany are such good friends you should try attacking them and see what happens! Try!
This is not about Germany alone. Lots of neighbours are interconnected with Germany's gas storage as well, so winning this race is vital for all of Europe.
Diversification of energy supply is extremely important for each country which want to be called an independent. How would it influence competitiveness of German production it's another question. But in current situation there's no wide range of choice for Germany
@@mori27 Meaning, that you are a Troll, meaning that you are ok with Russia´s aggression towards Ukraine. It means you support killing babies/children/women in the hundreds if not the thousands. Who´s blind following whom? Is following and supporting Putin a good thing for you? The world thinks different, let´s see if Putin gets poisoned or falls out a window from the fourth floor soon. He seems to like these methods!
I DON NOT UNDERSTAND they keep "harping on" about this... SIMPLE FACTS There does NOT EXIST enough gas to replace the Russian gas. Russia sold around 150 billion M3 of gas / year to Europe, THIS GAS CAN NOT BE SOLD TO ANYBODY ELSE because these pipelines goes to Europe. The 3 largest LNG exporters in the world, USA, Qatar, Australia export around 300 billion M3/ year (Russia is the worlds 4th largest LNG exporter) EU WOULD NEED 50% of this... BUT this gas already have customers.... YES Europe MAYBE could outbid these countries but THAT WOULD BE VERY EXPENSIVE as we can see when Gas in Europe is up > 1000% compared to 5 year average price. So... MAYBE EU could get hold of the gas BUT IT WON''T be economically feasible. AND it would starve the rest of the world of gas... So really... Europe CAN NOT AFFORD to skip Russian gas, industries are already closing down. The questions is not IF Europe could get hold of energy... MAYBE it can BUT Europe NEEDS CHEAP ENERGY. THAT IT CAN NOT GET. Industry can't just "wait" for 5-10 years they can't wait for 6-12 months
You Germans are very industrious, resourceful and resilient people, simply in a time of need, not a word of panic. Delightful to see some calm reality on display
Germany can try and source alternate energy now or in the future - it will be many times more expensive than Russian energy and less green. Germany/EU/EK economies are doomed.
@@skozzi2845 Skozzi; I have to giggle about the responses given the fact that Russians have some of the filthiest gas commercially available, if you choose to call it "green" gas. Have you seen the horrific environmental consequences of prewestern energy production? Its a moonscape that Russians clearly never intended to be proactively concerned about. Had the EU and the west not pitched in with investments in all the best technology and best markets ever for the product Russian energy would resemble the Afghanistan's of energy production. Russians took the "gifts" and then promptly shot the horse that brought them being as treacherous as the Russians are so well known to be.
instead of relying on a long-term trusted and reliable supplier, you choose to commit your country and its citizens to subservient the unknown. Brilliant.
Well done Europe. We in South Africa are sitting without electricity 8 hours a day called Loadshedding. Our government stole and destroyed our infrastructure. Europe organise in a few months. Africa been years in almost total collapse.
@Brian Wiltshire South Africa is blessed with endless amount of sun, how is it going over there with solar/ photo voltaic? Villages/ towns etc could get completely independent.
LNG is 50% to 70% expensive than Natural gas. .In long term the products and everything is going to to expensive .Germany is hitting on it foot by buying expensive Gas
Germany already dig up alot of coal, they increased it after Japans nuclear disaster a decade or so ago. And planned on shutting down nuclear power plants, now they might keep the few ones they still have open. So no, they cant really increase the production but they could start importing more
@@pjhgerlach Natural gas? No, it isn't. Nuclear? Yes, it is. All electricity generation requires construction, transport of materials, etc. Even wind and solar are not zero-carbon in that respect, either. But in generation itself, nuclear is zero-carbon. In the long run, burning fuels is inefficient and as much as possible moving to electric vehicles, machinery, appliances is the way to go. Of course, reforestation is one way to offset emissions as well.
@@stephenbailey9969 I'm all for nuclear but only if they are replaced in the future with more efficient ones. The current power plants use only a fraction of the fuel rods.
@@philipkoene5345 Correct. That requires facilities for recycling/re-using or locations for burial. The technology over the last forty years has advanced significantly compared to the first nuclear power generation facilities.
It will come from Canada. Hey, I hope you can smell the smoke in Russia. Let it remind you of your certain defeat in Ukraine. Does Russia have enough spruce trees for coffins? Canada will sell you the lumber, I'm sure.
i still don't understand why germany won't keep it's reactors online. they should also really look into reactivating the ones that were shut down over the past few years
We only have 3 reactors left and two of those are now outfitted to be kept operating for a year or two longer if necessary (they were supposed to go offline by the end of the year). Apart from that, the German people have decided quite some time ago, that nuclear energy is expensive, very risky (just look at all the scary reports on Zaporizhzhia now) and an unacceptable burden to future generations. We will stick by this decision - end of story. Why is everyone so fussed about it? The three remaining reactors do not produce a large amount of German energy anyway. It is in the low, single-digit percentage range.
@@krollpeter that's still 3-6% less gas that will need to be imported and provides base load power that can be used to balance out renewable spikes and dips
@@FroggyTWrite 37 % of the gas is used for industry, 13 % for other commercial activities, and 31 % for heating. Only 12 % is used to generate electricity. We would only need to save about that amount to be safe, not a gargantuan task. Of course, it also depends on how strong the winter will get. On a European level Russia supplies currently only about 9 % of previous quantities. If Putina turns off the tap completely, it would be not a killer for Europe. I personally think he will do that as soon as the winter breaks in anyway. That would be normal for the way he functions.
All sounds great! But you forgot to tell to our German fellow at what price you will pay GNL! 20% 30% maybe 40% more expensive? And what about industrial competitiveness? How much will cost electricity in the next 5 years?
Thank you and I am sure German politicians have learned from you. They ignored your warnings, but that will not happen again. Greetings to your beautiful country!
@@krollpeter Just a Pooty-bot troll. He's conveniently forgetting that Russia's population will be down by 25m by mid-century. There are twice as many babushkas in Russia as women in their prime childbearing years, so it's unstoppable. And the population of Russian men is falling by 500 a day. Pooty-poot-poot just can't get it up!
It also about the other end Lack of *EXPORT* LNG terminals. In Canada we have more gas than we can use but not one LNG export terminal. We can not help Europe at all.
@John Smith As far as I got it, Canada and Germany did some sort of agreement, to support with building infrastructure etc. Greetings to Canada from Germany 😉
@@saba1030 It was on the news here in Canada. Will take a very long time. We do not even have our main gas line all they way to the east coast of Canada and no EXPORT LNG Terminal. In Fact Canada has a IMPORT LNG Terminal on the east coast that takes LNG ships from the US. We sell all excess gas to the US by pipeline. So we actually buy our own Canadian gas back from the USA. Its crazy.
Imagine you tell your boss, if we get lucky we will finish the project, has someone make those guys accountable of the bad decisions they make or people just have to accepted and pay the consequences
I don't see many alternatives for Germany at the moment. They have let their energy planning be dictated by naive activists on the one hand, and naive corporatists on the other, and it's time for practical solutions that can be brought online fast, while longer-term solutions are put in place, but won't be in time for winter. Hopefully, Germany (and the rest of the EU) learns from this, and doesn't forget the lesson again anyttime soon.
Bullsh**! We had for the past 50 years very reliable energy suppliers! We paid always low prices. Now we were naive to listen to sleepy Joe and jeopardized our strategic production advantages!!! Now sleepy Joe betrayed us and we have to pay higher prices
By the way everything is going long term solutions are mostly useless cuz either humans will be rotated alive by repeated heatwaves or flooded to the point most buildings will be disfunctional and energy infrastructure will be under water
@@Matthew-rp3jf Alliances are shifting on a scale that they haven't in a long time, and the map is being redrawn. The reality is that the EU in general does not have adequate energy supplies to support its population at the level its become accustomed to. Personally, I'd rather see the EU's energy coming from N. America than from Russia.
Can't ever forget the moment the German delegation was laughing at Trump, when he was warning them for being overly reliant on the Russians for energy, who was right 😂😂
The sad thing is, that (the laughing dudes) was the party which was governing the last 1/2 decades but right after they completely failed with corona got replaced with our new govrnment who needs to fix 2 decades of ignorance in sooooo many parts of Germany. While getting politically backstabbed by the (now opposition) party which drove us in the pit the first place... Love the fact that many people still vote for them after all of their proven incompentence... germany babyy.. (but prob everywhere really xD).
Obama already told the Germans about it , well before Trump . I wonder why the people who bring this up always forgot that Obama had already said it and make it all about Orange Man🤣 . The Germans made a mistake and have admitted it but the Americans elected Trump as a president who later try to overthrow American democracy and stole Top secret documents putting USA national security in danger , so I don't know who is worse 🤣🤣
If Europe uses LNG to power industry how competitive will your products made with 10x price gas be with the products of "Friendly" countries using Russian gas at 1x price?
@@Rimrock300 Power of Siberia pipeline now in service 1 more in construction and another on the way. Do you think Russia started this conflict without plans? Their energy revenues and profits are up .
@@neodym5809 Russia has pipeline gas to China soon to Pakistan and many others. if you are totally Right Russia will have enough gas to attract lots of industry to locate in Russia right next to the gas.
@@enriquelaroche5370 80% of gas went to Europe, 3% to China. The Russian Chinese pipeline is tiny. Industry moves into Russia because of the gas? Why? They would not be able to sell to the big markets (EU, USA)
From whom are they going to get the LNG? They need enormous amounts. When will people understand that this is misinformation aimed to stop civil unrest.
The problem is: There is not enough LNG on the markets to replace the russian natural gas. Germany und the EU have a big problem. Biogas would have been a solution but that was blocked by german politicians in 2017 because of ideology.
Building new LNG terminals and storage facilities won't help if there is no LNG available to purchase unless it is at a very high price. Aside from being expensive, Germany has been paying an extra premium for the LNG now which eventually will become financially unsustainable. These high prices will have to be passed down to consumers so this cycle won't end unless the sanctions are lifted.
Not really - to lose your competitive advantage, there must be competition. For most of Germany's manufacturing industry, there simply isn't enough competition, because the necessary know-how has not been developed (or stolen) elsewhere.
As per the government 100% filled gas storage lasts 2.5 month in a normal winter. That's not counting the cost of gas. Evey 10th business is now registered as insolvent due to enegry bills
When NO NAT GAS is coming through the other Russian pipelines, there won't be more gas by opening another one. EU/ Germany want to and will be independant from Russian nat gas for ever 😉
@@saba1030 LNG costs 10x Russian gas price , China and India will pay 1x you will pay 10x and you will try to sell your expensive products in the world market at a cost 2-5x that of the competition, Good luck.
@@enriquelaroche5370 Well, changing German Gvt isn't the point, as the recent one is only in since nine months, the former one, being in for sixteen years, "messed" it up. Going along with the EUs and other western countries, to sanction Putin, is the goal, and therefor we will go ahead as it is 😉Apart from that, all of this is only temporarily, as the EU/ Germany will replace ALL fossil fuels (oil/ coal/ nat gas) with green hydrogen in the near future, time table is focused on 2030-2045 😉
@@saba1030 Germany will replace ALL fossil fuels..This is a GLOBAL climate issue. if Russia does not cooperate and instead just burns coal it can't sell How you your climate efforts do anything but cost you money and deliver no benefit?
@@enriquelaroche5370 It will deliver benefit. The western countries have to go ahead with developing solutions and also to show, that renewables are working, including new technologies, only then the other countries will follow. All of this was on the way before the war started, but, because of the recent situation, its like a "booster" for going green even faster. Like, green energy is much cheaper than nuclear or nat gas power, but because the energy market is working on the "merit order" principle, which means, the most expensive (nat gas at the moment), "dictates" the price for ALL energy "types". EU Commission is working on that problem recently. Greetings from the EU 😉
What about other poor European countries they dragged I to mess who's gonna rescue them? Germany is only securing Germans interest not of EU in general.
Wishfull thinking, there is simply not sufficient LNG gas available to cover the needs of Europe. Furthermore there are not sufficient gas tankers nor the infrastructure to unload the tankers in even close to sufficient quantities available in the world.
@@hpoels851 :DDD toast ? Then what gonna happen to Ruzzia ? their economy is fked beyond imagination :)) but keep wet dreaming, EU gonna be fine, cant say same for Ruzzia ;)
Poland have already One LNG Port and second floating will go on next year, Each time in past when Poland speak in EU abound LNG and gas diversity Germans laughs this because they have cheap gas from Russia. German Leadership failed to notice Real Face of Russia.
@@ibiedun156 Hahaha, it's Russian IP that's already down 60%. Don't worry-as a liberal democracy Germany is quite rich and just orders what it needs, not like poverty-stricken Russia, which can't afford toilets. An extra few billion euros is just a pimple for Germany, so try not to lose any sleep on their behalf. See ya!
Why don't the Germans practice adjusting their thermostats to use less gas now, today, rather than waiting until the middle of winter. I can imagine that living in a 60 degree house during the day can be uncomfortable, but it could be worse.
Fairley certain that a deal was reached with Canada , which has plenty of energy , and while people should be prudent , keeping Europe warm is going to be seen as part of keeping Ukraine supplied on the battlefield.....Germany quitely reached 90% reserves......that these countries are working daily and will solve the problem is without doubt !
Trump warned them what would happen if they relied on Russia. Germany laughed and know we laugh at Germany. Canada is fighting a climate crisis so no energy for you people.
Canada said, "No" to Germany. To save face, they agreed to some future hydrogen green tech that will never happen. The USA is the only game in town, besides Norway for LNG.
Are you that naive? 91% of what? You did not ask 91% of 1 liter? 91% of 100 milliliters? You need to know the total storage capacity. Knowing 91% is not enough information to determine if it is enough. They are hiding the true number. What is the total storage capacity, and in a normal winter how much of that is used daily. So many numbers are missing on purpose to give people a false sense of security...
Germany has always depended on cheap gas. To switch to LNG, will change everything. Will Germany remain competitive in the future, especially when there is developing countries paying lower commodities prices
No, It's not clean or economically viable at all for German industry or domestic German consumers, especially when their global competitors are still availing piped Russian LPG and industrial raw materials at a fraction of the cost.
@@AKAHEIZER Ask Bavaria about that subject. The North is ready to go, the South is blocking, while at the same time demanding support, but without any infrastructure 😉 Greetings from the North 😉
You still need to find natural gas first before you can liquefy it. So where is the new source of natural gas. There is simply not enough supply to meet the demand for next few years. Plus you will have to build special infrastructures and ships. This will take years. Of course now Europe is going to be totally dependent on US and won't be competitive unless Europe can find new source of gas in some poor country they can take for free.
Good to see real rapid action by Germany to get itself off Russian energy. We should all be diversifying our energy sources, and the speed/approach undertaken by German is amazing. Nothing moves fast in the energy market, but Germany is doing a great job in showing how to do it.
looking forward to seeing some rapid action in support of Ukraine - rather than just German industry. Germany has given a pathetically small amount of military aid in terms of German GDP. DYOR.
Today Germany is buying lots of LNG that it didn't previously buy because of it's last 10 years of mistaken energy policy. It is driving up the price of LNG and making ME pay more for energy because of Germany's totally avoidable problems, but that's not the worst of it..... The LNG Germany buys this winter means that poorer countries can't afford to win the auctions and while Europe gets poorer due to German policy errors some parts of the world will have to go without LNG. Paying more doesn't suddenly create all the needed extra gas, it just makes it too expensive for the poorest in the world. Germany shouldn't be patting itself on the back for filling its tanks it should be apologizing to Ukraine and the rest of the world for empowering Putin and letting him out of his cage. AND SEND SOME DAMN TANKS TO UKRAINE YOU SELFISH........people.
@Michael Davison May I ask where you are from? In regards to the military aid, I think you failed to do your own research. There are some underlying problems you are seemingly not aware of. That said, among the small amount of military equipment that was sent is some of the most valuable out of all the military equipment that was sent (from all the countries), but to be fair, the Bundeswehr was not the only one who provided that kind of equipment, other countries provided the same out of their arsenals as well. But military aid is not the only thing that is important, there are areas which Germany was actually able to be more of service. The Bundeswehr deploys wounded Ukrainian soldiers from Poland since day one. The patients are send to different hospitals around Germany and Europe, esp. to trauma ambulances in big cities. The Bundeswehr does it with an Airbus 310 MedEvac. A flying hospital. The MedEvac Airbus is so unique that even USA sometimes asked Germany for that. It is specially designed for heavily traumatized people that need intensive care during transport. This is the most sophisticated flying hospital you can think of, but the best of it is not the plane, it is the people working on it. 100% highly qualified professionals, specialists for wounded soldiers, to take care of the patients, to save lives. It is one of a kind (I do not know if anyone else in NATO has something with similar capabilities). Plus Germany is the second biggest financial aid after the US. I mean, there is much and more to criticize, but I really don't know what you are trying to do here. Obviously German policies were a huge mistake which can't be corrected immediately and which entail their own problems and consequences, but it's also pretty obvious that the former government is not in power anymore and the new government does its best to support Ukraine without committing suicide (which isn't the same as selfishness).
Still seems like nobody understand: LNG is only for emergency purpose, it's too expensive for industries as well as consumers, particularly if it comes from far distance countries like US, China or out of Europe. Because it counts on highly unreliable shipping with complex terminals, it's quite unreliable when counting on delivery.
Japan and China rely on LNG on a regular and constant basis, China is the top manufacturing country (28% of global manufacturing output) and the top LNG importer. LNG is not that expensive and liquefaction adds $2 to 3 per MMBTU (1 MMBTU = 0.293071 MWh ), cost of gas in Europe right now is 194 euros/MWh, cost of gas in the US is around $7.5/MMBTU, LNG will be around $10.5/MMBTU, with long term contracts Germany will avoid having to pay the European spot price of 194/MWh or 56/MMBTU.
@@paperandmedals8316 Germany is still buying Russian LNG to fill the storage. It is not the fact that they have gas, it is the cost of that gas. Everything made in Germany will cost more, and make it's main source of income, which is exports, more expensive than it's competitors. So having gas is only part of the puzzle, if that gas is too expensive exports and income will fall. With no exports no money to buy future gas imports, if they have to print money to pay for gas, inflation will explode. You need to stop criticizing people, when you yourself don't understand macro economics...
@@philipkoene5345 You are misinformed. Russia does sell LNG, and Germany is buying it to fill it's reserves since the pipeline gas has mostly stopped. They are buying it a spot prices from Russia. Here is some information your western media fails to tell you. Last year, Russia also exported 8.9 trillion cubic feet (Tcf) of liquefied and piped natural gas, 36% of the 24.8 Tcf of natural gas it produced. In 2021, 84% of Russia’s exported natural gas arrived at its destination country by pipeline, and the rest was shipped as liquefied natural gas (LNG). As you see Russia does sell LNG. Russia does not have a lot of pipelines to Asia, so that gas goes by LNG. You need to be informed and not misinformed...
Those 2 terminals will not cyt it, only 1/4 of previous Russian imports. Until 2026 this will be unstable and very expensive for them. They don't want long term contracts, so no deals
The Netherlands has a large LNG terminal in Rotterdam that could handle some of the LNG imports over the Rhine river and the Netherlads in the last 6 months build a temporary LNG terminal in Eemshaven close to Germany. As the Netherlands will likely need less gas every year from now on capacity will become available.
Of course Germany will not run out of gas if they pay the right price. The question is will Germany's industries be able to stay competitive and even survive after paying much higher price? If they are not able to many will loose their jobs and their economy will be in ruins...
Probably yes. Based on cost analysis at current market rates, you're talking within a 10-15% price difference, and LNG is just a small part of the energy production (natural gas is ~12% of energy production, so probs a 5-10% energy price cost difference, and that was pre-Russia times the percentage, it's dropped now). Most of it goes into heating, which is the issue, and the electricity prices should stabilize by year-end anyways, since French nuclear reactors are coming back online, that's a major reason for the energy deficit in Europe.
@@michaelyun2407 I can't stand Trump, but you are right that he did warn the Germans about using Russian gas. He was the only one saying it that I can recall and he was...right.
@@thepianist7084 he was far from the only one, Bush already said in 2009 that Nord Stream 1 (and the proposed 2) were bad, Obama same thing (was even one of the last official statements end of 2016), it's one of the few things that Democrats and Republicans could agree on since the beginning that hasn't changed.
I wonder how much of a difference a significant amount of electrification could make in Germany. Not just replacing gas for electricity generation but in people's homes for heating and cooking.
As mentioned above cooking is a non issue. To the question of heating: There is a big push for heat pumps (wich run on electricity) but there a lot of obstacles. A) Most older homes need to have a energetic renovation before a heat is viable B) significant shortage of qualified tradesmen for installation C) Suppychain issues D) Cost
Liquid Natural Gas is very expensive compared to Pipeline Gas. I keep a small supply of LNG at my house for Emergencies. It's about 100 times more expensive per Cubic Meter than Pipeline Gas here. Hopefully Europe can improve Cost of LNG
@@OakleyMoodie I'm not afraid. Prices of 16 OZ Steel Bottles of Propane are now 3X higher than last year even though Pipeline Gas is flowing from Canada and North Dakota freely here. It's odd. I use it for a Catalytic Ice fishing heater. Thank God I don't need to for my Home. I'd be chopping down Trees like Europe now.
They shld invent..they shld not dodge qatar's existing customers by paying more..existing customers will go to Russia or Iran if deprived of qatar's gas..Germany is ridiculous..they shld not cry of existing customers buy Russian gas bcoz of germany
they found already.... they are buying gas from China and India.... and India an China buy from Russia.... .the difference is just a little bit of the price .. 3x more...
"Only" 12 to 13% of Germany's imported NG is from Russia, that's relatively replaceable. Too bad we have a dysfunctional, idiotic American Administration or we could fill that gap alone.
@@Thor.Jorgensen For several years did not listen to the concerns of the 3 small Baltic states. They were spot on, but we ignored them. That will not happen ever again.
One thing I know, gas prices will never be the same. 1 cost of transportation 2 cost of conversion to gas 3 must compete with international buyers.. Meaning you have to offer higher price.
naaaaa.. they will just pay 2x or 3x more for LNG.... good luck to compete with China.... EU gave the cheap gas to china market and buy US LNG with 2x the price... what a genious...
@@ricbace You forget that this is a worldwide crisis. China is facing increasing energy prices too. Russia has nowhere near the needed infrastructure to supply china's energy demand. Also, the EU is one of China's main markets, and with raising inflation, it's losing purchase power. So your hypothesis is very short-sighted.
It has absolutely nothing to do with that. Germany has been Europe's largest electricity exporter for years and still is. The problem with gas is that large parts of the infrastructure are geared to gas, e.g. heating systems but also industry. Germany does not need nuclear power. What it needs is more pumped storage power plants.
Yeah, they should do it, but more to as a political sign of "this is serious, government is doing everything possible" and to keep the childish german conservatives in the south quiet. In Terms of actual reduction in natural gas consumption nuclear power will do only a small effect.
It does not make to subsidize energy, because they want people to consume less, and the only way to consume less is by jacking-up the price. But do not worry we are winning the war in Ukraine (according to West media 😀)
Its a bit tricky to avoid Russian gas because the country is run by a dictator and then go to Saudi Arabia (Oasis of Human Rights) and Iran to ask for help... Why did Germany close all the Nuclear Power stations in the first place? If they didnt have any green energy plans 10 years ago this planet would have been 100x greener now... completely opposite effect and no one will accept the blame...
@@slobodanpaunovic3834 I am happy for Germany Slobodan trying their very best to come out of the energy crisis . This will prove beneficial for the Commercial Industrial and Domestic energy needs.
it was extremely dumb of Germany to solely rely on russia as its energy source. they could have held them hostage if they were not the biggest economy of Europe. it's time to diversify the energy and preferably move towards nuclear, solar and wind
There is enough LNG on the spot market for Europe at 18Bn tons. The problem for Europe is that spot market is expensive. The solution for Europe is to enter into contracts with reliable suppliers, something that illogically the Europeans have declined to do. Meanwhile Japan, South Korea and others have secure long term LNG supplies because they made themselves reliable customers, something that the Europeans aren’t.
too bad they cant open LNG terminals in northern italy or southern france and then pipe the gas to germany...so the LNG ships dont have to travel all the way around europe to germany.
There is significant LNG infrastructure in Spain. However, the French are blocking any pipeline plans from Spain to Germany, because they want to sell nuclear power to Germany.
What was the name of that guy that said Germany was sooo foolish for creating such dependence on Russia, while at the same time paying them billions while they are a military rival? Who was that guy?
Italy's PM and UK's PM already went down, I wonder who will be next this winter when people freeze and become poorer than they were thanks to sanction-induced inflation. The West side of that Iron Curtain will suffer more.
So the Russian gas cannot be easily replaced? Who would have thought? Robert Habeck told German public radio in January that his country can meet its energy needs without Russian gas. Can Germany do without Russian gas? "Yes it can," Habeck said in response to Deutschlandfunk's question. He added consumers would receive assistance should energy prices skyrocket. What he did not say was that German's economy would be forced to deindustrialise, lose global competitiveness and its people pay a very heavy price for it.
@@pjhgerlach Or the German leadership are clueless virtue signallers like Habeck. Look at the seizure of Rosneft refineries. They were designed to refine Russian Urals crude and are useless for any other crude oil. What is the point of seizing assents when you have no oil to refine after the ban on Russian oil? It is a clown show 🤣
The problem with LNG is that it is inherently much more expensive than Russian piped gas. Many companies even whole industries are not competitive at those prices. Even Wolkswagon is thinking of shifting production out of Germany, Czech, and other eastern European countries. The storage tanks are full. And they will last all winter because at current prices no one can afford to buy that gas. However the stored gas will allow all these companies to shut down and move production overseas in an orderly manner. Quite a few companies will move production to China. That is not so good when the US starts its economic war against China. But even if that is delayed, would germans buy Volkswagon cars made in Xinjiang?
Germany exceeds expectations. We all owe them a great deal of gratitude. I don’t care where they source their supplies, as long as they don’t originate in Russian territories.
Germany is being done a great deal of injustice in general. They delivered a lot of material and money to Ukraine, did everything they could to free themselves from Russian resources without committing suicide, and also the German population is paying a high price. The communication of the German government is often questionable and irritating, but that does not change the facts that Germany is an important factor in Ukraine's survival.
DW - why don't you explain to Germans and the rest of the Europeans the difference between LNG gas and pipeline gas and provide an assessment of how much Germany and the rest of the EU will have to spend in order to update the EU infrastructure.
Because people will be shocked, it's estimated minimum 2 or 3 times more expensive. 90% of gas storage can last 3 months for houses with restrictions and that's without industry.
Q- Where is Germany getting its LNG? I read India, China and Saudi Arabia are buying from Russia and selling it to the EU. Q - Is it true that the EU can buy Russian fertilizers, but under sanctions to Africa? Q- Is it true that most of the grain out of Ukraine is going to the EU?
@@cubansoy yeh almost as silly as buying gas from 4000 miles away on a ship when the guy next door sells it cheap a chips bye bye German industry lol hello AFD you destroyed yourselves again
@@scruffylee is not as silly as solely relying on an unreliable gas supplier. infrastructure for LNG seems like a more expensive way to replace russian gas for now. but it's gonna be a helpful instrument to get gas cheaper than before the war after it ends yielding profits long term
I think it was in context of germany getting trough the winter /without any/ economic damage which would be the best case and like really impressive if we look at our dependence from a year ago. At the end we will get trough the winter without major problems and thats the important part.
if we get the LNG from qatar, wouldn´t it be more sensible to deliver the german ´LNG ito greece, italy,. france, spain, netherlands etc and get it to germany via pipeline? getting from the mediterranian to the baltic doubles the distance and time... with the same amount of lng tankers europe could get twice the amount of gas if the delivery is close to the suez exit... crete, cypress ...
If you go by that route, there will probably be no gas left for Germany? Everyman (or country) for himself..... EU only appears to work as one.. but they are probably not working as one. According to this video, it is only supplying 4.5BCM of gas.... still far from what Germany needs... not to mention at a much higher cost. Habeck and Olaf is throwing a lot of Germany's tax payers money into the problem they created...... They should have sanctioned Russia AFTER they are ready to cut off Russia's energy supply.... what are they thinking i wonder...
Italy and Spain are also leasing LNG gasification ships to take LNG from all sources, likely including Qatar. The USA has stepped up LNG exports and is supplying the EU with half the peak Russia gas supplies. We can send more, the EU just has to have the capacity to accept it.
Many small companies will not reopen Next spring
everyone is acting like woolly jumpers dont exist, an energy crisis is not a death sentence.
people need to learn that they dont need to heat their homes, but instead heat the occupants.
its very rare that i will ever turn on a heater because i dress cozy for the winter,
too many people have gotten used to walking around their heated homes in shorts and tshirts...
So, now Germany will give its energy sovereignity to the US instead of Russia?
Better
What’s the problem with that?
@@efrosvovelu9076 You know, a country that is not self sufficient in any aspect is going to be dependant on the whims of who they depend. Not that I really care about Germany's future. I mean they even came to my country seeking some energy resources and depend more on us, which is good for my country.
Hahaha! Fail! The US and Germany are friends and can trust one another. No one on earth trusts Russia, that's why 95% of Europeans are in an alliance for protection against it. (Except who? Serbia and Belarus, who want to join it. Besides that, Ireland, Switzerland and Austria.)
The US and Germany are such good friends you should try attacking them and see what happens! Try!
Well it beats doing business with the Russian mafia in the Kremlin
USA has become spains largest gas supplier all LNG. Doubt there is enough capacity to liquify and regasify Europe's needs for gas.
This is not about Germany alone. Lots of neighbours are interconnected with Germany's gas storage as well, so winning this race is vital for all of Europe.
Germany and Europe are not winning anything - their industrial economies are doomed - they have been played by the US and cheer their own demise.
they can warm themselved by their hypocrisy feeling good about themselves for being western ukraine supporters (whilst pumping the region with arms)
And at a price of its all industry! All Hail to Green Pastoral Germany!
people: live in inflation cold dark
leader: build millitary
media: they are evil, we are good
yes, iam talking abt north korea
@@xi1864 WTF that not really what’s happening in Germany
I was standing by the Rhine at Dusseldorf two weeks ago and noticed a number of barges carrying LNG, something I had never noticed before.
From where they are importing? I think from US, this is the only thing US government wanted from long.
@@Anaskhanartist The US companies will be trustworthy suppliers. Unlike Vladolf Putzler the psycho.
@@Anaskhanartist Saudi Arabia
Diversification of energy supply is extremely important for each country which want to be called an independent.
How would it influence competitiveness of German production it's another question.
But in current situation there's no wide range of choice for Germany
An independent country should have independent diplomatic policies. Not blindly following others while sacrificing the welfare of their own people.
@@mori27 Meaning, that you are a Troll, meaning that you are ok with Russia´s aggression towards Ukraine. It means you support killing babies/children/women in the hundreds if not the thousands. Who´s blind following whom? Is following and supporting Putin a good thing for you? The world thinks different, let´s see if Putin gets poisoned or falls out a window from the fourth floor soon. He seems to like these methods!
@@uhwake Don't ask what "liberal democracy" can possibly do for you. Ask who can you make to suffer to please "liberal democracy".
I DON NOT UNDERSTAND they keep "harping on" about this...
SIMPLE FACTS
There does NOT EXIST enough gas to replace the Russian gas.
Russia sold around 150 billion M3 of gas / year to Europe, THIS GAS CAN NOT BE SOLD TO ANYBODY ELSE because these pipelines goes to Europe.
The 3 largest LNG exporters in the world, USA, Qatar, Australia export around 300 billion M3/ year (Russia is the worlds 4th largest LNG exporter)
EU WOULD NEED 50% of this...
BUT this gas already have customers....
YES Europe MAYBE could outbid these countries but THAT WOULD BE VERY EXPENSIVE as we can see when Gas in Europe is up > 1000% compared to 5 year average price.
So... MAYBE EU could get hold of the gas BUT IT WON''T be economically feasible.
AND it would starve the rest of the world of gas...
So really... Europe CAN NOT AFFORD to skip Russian gas, industries are already closing down.
The questions is not IF Europe could get hold of energy... MAYBE it can BUT Europe NEEDS CHEAP ENERGY.
THAT IT CAN NOT GET.
Industry can't just "wait" for 5-10 years they can't wait for 6-12 months
This winter is very tough for anyone and all manufacturing to survive!
Mark my words
You Germans are very industrious, resourceful and resilient people, simply in a time of need, not a word of panic.
Delightful to see some calm reality on display
AND crazy to boot. They will NOT restart nuclears. I'm speechless, Japan is restarting SIX.
LOL
Keep a deep sleep in Lala land this winter! LOL.
Germany can try and source alternate energy now or in the future - it will be many times more expensive than Russian energy and less green. Germany/EU/EK economies are doomed.
@@skozzi2845
Skozzi;
I have to giggle about the responses given the fact that Russians have some of the filthiest gas commercially available, if you choose to call it "green" gas.
Have you seen the horrific environmental consequences of prewestern energy production? Its a moonscape that Russians clearly never intended to be proactively concerned about.
Had the EU and the west not pitched in with investments in all the best technology and best markets ever for the product Russian energy would resemble the Afghanistan's of energy production.
Russians took the "gifts" and then promptly shot the horse that brought them being as treacherous as the Russians are so well known to be.
instead of relying on a long-term trusted and reliable supplier, you choose to commit your country and its citizens to subservient the unknown. Brilliant.
Well said👍
Well done Europe. We in South Africa are sitting without electricity 8 hours a day called Loadshedding. Our government stole and destroyed our infrastructure. Europe organise in a few months. Africa been years in almost total collapse.
@Brian Wiltshire South Africa is blessed with endless amount of sun, how is it going over there with solar/ photo voltaic? Villages/ towns etc could get completely independent.
Total collapse of Europe is on the way. Happening in front of your eyes.
Germany will be frugal this winter, will build the terminals, and work things out
LNG is 50% to 70% expensive than Natural gas. .In long term the products and everything is going to to expensive .Germany is hitting on it foot by buying expensive Gas
Does Germany have any substantial coal reserves? I know coal is frowned upon, but could it be an option if things got really bad?
It has plenty of lignite which is the most polluting coal but beggars can’t be choosers and all that.
Germany already dig up alot of coal, they increased it after Japans nuclear disaster a decade or so ago. And planned on shutting down nuclear power plants, now they might keep the few ones they still have open. So no, they cant really increase the production but they could start importing more
Green green
@@uhwake You will forget about climate when temperatures go down, trust me.
Yeah Europe is full of coal. UK still riddles with the stuff
This is the result of turning away from zero-carbon nuclear electricity generation.
Turning away from nuclear energy was a strategic blunder but this form of energy is not carbon neutral.
@@pjhgerlach Natural gas? No, it isn't.
Nuclear? Yes, it is.
All electricity generation requires construction, transport of materials, etc. Even wind and solar are not zero-carbon in that respect, either.
But in generation itself, nuclear is zero-carbon.
In the long run, burning fuels is inefficient and as much as possible moving to electric vehicles, machinery, appliances is the way to go.
Of course, reforestation is one way to offset emissions as well.
@@stephenbailey9969 I'm all for nuclear but only if they are replaced in the future with more efficient ones. The current power plants use only a fraction of the fuel rods.
It might be Zero-Carbon. It is not Zero-Nulear-Waste.
@@philipkoene5345 Correct. That requires facilities for recycling/re-using or locations for burial.
The technology over the last forty years has advanced significantly compared to the first nuclear power generation facilities.
Don’t worry, Germany still has some trees that could be cut down to be used as firewood.
It will come from Canada. Hey, I hope you can smell the smoke in Russia. Let it remind you of your certain defeat in Ukraine.
Does Russia have enough spruce trees for coffins? Canada will sell you the lumber, I'm sure.
Trump warned them and they laughed. Know We laugh at Germany
i still don't understand why germany won't keep it's reactors online. they should also really look into reactivating the ones that were shut down over the past few years
Green politics backed by the US, has infected German political logic.
We only have 3 reactors left and two of those are now outfitted to be kept operating for a year or two longer if necessary (they were supposed to go offline by the end of the year). Apart from that, the German people have decided quite some time ago, that nuclear energy is expensive, very risky (just look at all the scary reports on Zaporizhzhia now) and an unacceptable burden to future generations. We will stick by this decision - end of story. Why is everyone so fussed about it? The three remaining reactors do not produce a large amount of German energy anyway. It is in the low, single-digit percentage range.
They contribute only 3 - 6 %, depending how you calculate.
@@krollpeter that's still 3-6% less gas that will need to be imported and provides base load power that can be used to balance out renewable spikes and dips
@@FroggyTWrite 37 % of the gas is used for industry, 13 % for other commercial activities, and 31 % for heating. Only 12 % is used to generate electricity.
We would only need to save about that amount to be safe, not a gargantuan task. Of course, it also depends on how strong the winter will get.
On a European level Russia supplies currently only about 9 % of previous quantities. If Putina turns off the tap completely, it would be not a killer for Europe. I personally think he will do that as soon as the winter breaks in anyway. That would be normal for the way he functions.
All sounds great! But you forgot to tell to our German fellow at what price you will pay GNL! 20% 30% maybe 40% more expensive? And what about industrial competitiveness? How much will cost electricity in the next 5 years?
Germany is a great country with smart and innovative people. Sending loads of love to Germany from Lithuania ❤️
Thank you and I am sure German politicians have learned from you. They ignored your warnings, but that will not happen again. Greetings to your beautiful country!
@Ewan4-20 and what has this to do with the subject?
@@krollpeter Just a Pooty-bot troll. He's conveniently forgetting that Russia's population will be down by 25m by mid-century. There are twice as many babushkas in Russia as women in their prime childbearing years, so it's unstoppable. And the population of Russian men is falling by 500 a day. Pooty-poot-poot just can't get it up!
Merkel's approach to Russia was so "wise."
And still she thinks she was right. She has no shame.
She couldn't do anything right, including staying on a diet lol.
It also about the other end
Lack of *EXPORT* LNG terminals.
In Canada we have more gas than we can use but not one LNG export terminal.
We can not help Europe at all.
@John Smith As far as I got it, Canada and Germany did some sort of agreement, to support with building infrastructure etc.
Greetings to Canada from Germany 😉
@@saba1030 It was on the news here in Canada.
Will take a very long time.
We do not even have our main gas line all they way to the east coast of Canada and no EXPORT LNG Terminal.
In Fact Canada has a IMPORT LNG Terminal on the east coast that takes LNG ships from the US.
We sell all excess gas to the US by pipeline.
So we actually buy our own Canadian gas back from the USA.
Its crazy.
It's time for canada to look for better solutions✌️😉
@@Lysandra-8 no, we voted against LNG terminals.
@@awonderingsoul2445 good for you✌️🌻
Imagine you tell your boss, if we get lucky we will finish the project, has someone make those guys accountable of the bad decisions they make or people just have to accepted and pay the consequences
I don't see many alternatives for Germany at the moment. They have let their energy planning be dictated by naive activists on the one hand, and naive corporatists on the other, and it's time for practical solutions that can be brought online fast, while longer-term solutions are put in place, but won't be in time for winter. Hopefully, Germany (and the rest of the EU) learns from this, and doesn't forget the lesson again anyttime soon.
Bullsh**!
We had for the past 50 years very reliable energy suppliers! We paid always low prices.
Now we were naive to listen to sleepy Joe and jeopardized our strategic production advantages!!!
Now sleepy Joe betrayed us and we have to pay higher prices
By the way everything is going long term solutions are mostly useless cuz either humans will be rotated alive by repeated heatwaves or flooded to the point most buildings will be disfunctional and energy infrastructure will be under water
And Canada and the US are having to bail them out...seems fair.
@@Matthew-rp3jf US caused this to start with. EU leaders are just sheep though that they do not care about their citizens.
@@Matthew-rp3jf Alliances are shifting on a scale that they haven't in a long time, and the map is being redrawn. The reality is that the EU in general does not have adequate energy supplies to support its population at the level its become accustomed to. Personally, I'd rather see the EU's energy coming from N. America than from Russia.
Not "in-dependence", "re-dependence" where you just change the country you depend upon. That was the whole US' idea ))
Can't ever forget the moment the German delegation was laughing at Trump, when he was warning them for being overly reliant on the Russians for energy, who was right 😂😂
The sad thing is, that (the laughing dudes) was the party which was governing the last 1/2 decades but right after they completely failed with corona got replaced with our new govrnment who needs to fix 2 decades of ignorance in sooooo many parts of Germany. While getting politically backstabbed by the (now opposition) party which drove us in the pit the first place... Love the fact that many people still vote for them after all of their proven incompentence... germany babyy.. (but prob everywhere really xD).
Broken clocks and all that
And Obama before that
Can't ever forget the moment you let a couple of Trump's fascists storm your capitol 😂😂
Obama already told the Germans about it , well before Trump . I wonder why the people who bring this up always forgot that Obama had already said it and make it all about Orange Man🤣 . The Germans made a mistake and have admitted it but the Americans elected Trump as a president who later try to overthrow American democracy and stole Top secret documents putting USA national security in danger , so I don't know who is worse 🤣🤣
What a way to loose your main customers. Next year all gas will be from other sources.
Poland did it first not germany
To rely on a good weather this is not what people need to hear from politicians ! This is not strategy ! This is not assurances
Em Portugal continuamos a viver no verão.
This will kill tourism for another year.
If Europe uses LNG to power industry how competitive will your products made with 10x price gas be with the products of "Friendly" countries using Russian gas at 1x price?
These countries would be? Russia can’t sell its gas anywhere else
Russian gas export pipelines are quite limited except those going to Europe. Will take a time to build up capasity for transport to like China
@@Rimrock300 Power of Siberia pipeline now in service 1 more in construction and another on the way. Do you think Russia started this conflict without plans? Their energy revenues and profits are up .
@@neodym5809 Russia has pipeline gas to China soon to Pakistan and many others. if you are totally Right Russia will have enough gas to attract lots of industry to locate in Russia right next to the gas.
@@enriquelaroche5370 80% of gas went to Europe, 3% to China. The Russian Chinese pipeline is tiny.
Industry moves into Russia because of the gas? Why? They would not be able to sell to the big markets (EU, USA)
From whom are they going to get the LNG? They need enormous amounts. When will people understand that this is misinformation aimed to stop civil unrest.
Nobody should rely on Russian energy unless they want to be ruled by Putin.
And also world should never depend upon west and usa reliance.
Russian gas delivery is always reliable
Who is selling it to you and at what price, you got played by the US and the WEF, bye Germany..
The problem is: There is not enough LNG on the markets to replace the russian natural gas. Germany und the EU have a big problem. Biogas would have been a solution but that was blocked by german politicians in 2017 because of ideology.
Authoritarian Russian gas goes to India, Indians urinate in said gas making it 95% pure, thus becoming clean democratic gas. It's all good, man.
Building new LNG terminals and storage facilities won't help if there is no LNG available to purchase unless it is at a very high price. Aside from being expensive, Germany has been paying an extra premium for the LNG now which eventually will become financially unsustainable. These high prices will have to be passed down to consumers so this cycle won't end unless the sanctions are lifted.
@@uhwake freeze to death then in poverty when grermna industries collapse.
Buy LNG from the US
@@godisgoodallthetime3845 this is what will eventually happen, whether or not they want to admit it now.
You already spent $10B building the infrastructure, namely the Nordstream 2. But alas, you must do Washington's bidding.
This will make Germany lose its competitive advantage in manufacturing sector
Will be seriously effected and manufacturing costs will rise manyfold.
In near term sure.
Not really - to lose your competitive advantage, there must be competition. For most of Germany's manufacturing industry, there simply isn't enough competition, because the necessary know-how has not been developed (or stolen) elsewhere.
German gas storage has reached 89% 'all because of LNG' - so Norway supplying extra gas, the UK sending over gas, non of this matters it seems .. ?
As per the government 100% filled gas storage lasts 2.5 month in a normal winter. That's not counting the cost of gas. Evey 10th business is now registered as insolvent due to enegry bills
Of course the cheapest alternative is to simply change German government and turn on the Gas from Nord stream 1 and 2
When NO NAT GAS is coming through the other Russian pipelines, there won't be more gas by opening another one. EU/ Germany want to and will be independant from Russian nat gas for ever 😉
@@saba1030 LNG costs 10x Russian gas price , China and India will pay 1x you will pay 10x and you will try to sell your expensive products in the world market at a cost 2-5x that of the competition, Good luck.
@@enriquelaroche5370 Well, changing German Gvt isn't the point, as the recent one is only in since nine months, the former one, being in for sixteen years, "messed" it up. Going along with the EUs and other western countries, to sanction Putin, is the goal, and therefor we will go ahead as it is 😉Apart from that, all of this is only temporarily, as the EU/ Germany will replace ALL fossil fuels (oil/ coal/ nat gas) with green hydrogen in the near future, time table is focused on 2030-2045 😉
@@saba1030 Germany will replace ALL fossil fuels..This is a GLOBAL climate issue. if Russia does not cooperate and instead just burns coal it can't sell How you your climate efforts do anything but cost you money and deliver no benefit?
@@enriquelaroche5370 It will deliver benefit. The western countries have to go ahead with developing solutions and also to show, that renewables are working, including new technologies, only then the other countries will follow. All of this was on the way before the war started, but, because of the recent situation, its like a "booster" for going green even faster. Like, green energy is much cheaper than nuclear or nat gas power, but because the energy market is working on the "merit order" principle, which means, the most expensive (nat gas at the moment), "dictates" the price for ALL energy "types". EU Commission is working on that problem recently.
Greetings from the EU 😉
What about other poor European countries they dragged I to mess who's gonna rescue them? Germany is only securing Germans interest not of EU in general.
Wishfull thinking, there is simply not sufficient LNG gas available to cover the needs of Europe.
Furthermore there are not sufficient gas tankers nor the infrastructure to unload the tankers in even close to sufficient quantities available in the world.
Could not agree more!
@@uhwake There is no solution. Germany and the rest of the EU are toast.
@@hpoels851 :DDD toast ? Then what gonna happen to Ruzzia ? their economy is fked beyond imagination :)) but keep wet dreaming, EU gonna be fine, cant say same for Ruzzia ;)
Poland have already One LNG Port and second floating will go on next year, Each time in past when Poland speak in EU abound LNG and gas diversity Germans laughs this because they have cheap gas from Russia. German Leadership failed to notice Real Face of Russia.
Yes, we underestimated our Baltic neighbours and now we pay the price.
I don't think they failed to notice, they just ignored it out of greed
Those cheap energy supplies made their companies more profitable let's see if the lng will make economic sense
@@EMP1RE917 СПГ гораздо выгоднее для экономики США! И это должно быть главным его преимуществом в Европе.
@@bennymuller3379 One of reason of collapse of Roman Empire was due greed and Corruption
Maybe or not but it will be costly no doubt.
Cost is 3-4x more than natural pipelines
Getting rid of Razzian dependencies - priceless😁🤣😋
not costly unaffordable bye bye German industry lol
Industrial capacity and production down to zero!!!!
@@ibiedun156 Hahaha, it's Russian IP that's already down 60%. Don't worry-as a liberal democracy Germany is quite rich and just orders what it needs, not like poverty-stricken Russia, which can't afford toilets.
An extra few billion euros is just a pimple for Germany, so try not to lose any sleep on their behalf. See ya!
The short answer is no.
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@@parkerburrus289 I have a more detailed comment about that in this same comment section.
Why don't the Germans practice adjusting their thermostats to use less gas now, today, rather than waiting until the middle of winter. I can imagine that living in a 60 degree house during the day can be uncomfortable, but it could be worse.
60 degree ? what? my house has 18 degree and its fine.
@@wokeaf1337 Ever heard of Fahrenheit?
Do you realize how cold it gets there
Why do you assume we don't?
@@cyberfunk3793 Yes but has nothing to do with temperature in Europe.
If people just use gas for heating i don't think there will be a problem, we need to cut down on unnecessary usage of gas.
The steel and chemical industry do a lot of heating. And I mean a lot.
Fairley certain that a deal was reached with Canada , which has plenty of energy , and while people should be prudent , keeping Europe warm is going to be seen as part of keeping Ukraine supplied on the battlefield.....Germany quitely reached 90% reserves......that these countries are working daily and will solve the problem is without doubt !
Good thing the U.S. and Canada are bailing out Europe's gas or they'd be in trouble.
Trump warned them what would happen if they relied on Russia. Germany laughed and know we laugh at Germany. Canada is fighting a climate crisis so no energy for you people.
How much you will pay?
Canada said, "No" to Germany. To save face, they agreed to some future hydrogen green tech that will never happen. The USA is the only game in town, besides Norway for LNG.
Germany is also buying Russian LNG...
I hear Gernany, Germany, Germany, but what about the rest of us in EU?
German reserves are already at 91%. So it wont run out of gas
91% of what?
91% Windows 7 progress bar to "Not Nearly Enough"
@@paulblichmann2791 dude 91% full
just like the citizens pay 91% of their wage for energy hahaha
just like 91% can't afford to pay the bills haha
Are you that naive? 91% of what? You did not ask 91% of 1 liter? 91% of 100 milliliters? You need to know the total storage capacity. Knowing 91% is not enough information to determine if it is enough. They are hiding the true number. What is the total storage capacity, and in a normal winter how much of that is used daily. So many numbers are missing on purpose to give people a false sense of security...
With money everything is possible 👏🏾
Yep 4.5 TRILLION dollars to be exact
Germany has always depended on cheap gas. To switch to LNG, will change everything. Will Germany remain competitive in the future, especially when there is developing countries paying lower commodities prices
Say goodbye to 35-hour work weeks and 6 weeks of annual vacations. The Russian subsidy on German GDP is over.
We had overcome worse crisis than that.
Better work more or pay higher prices than living under the rule of a fascist again.
@@krollpeter Arent democracy supposed to provide higher living standards then fascists?
Germany is supposed to be building nuclear plants instead of shutting them down anyway.
people: live in inflation cold dark
leader: build millitary
media: they are evil, we are good
yes, iam talking abt north korea
No, It's not clean or economically viable at all for German industry or domestic German consumers, especially when their global competitors are still availing piped Russian LPG and industrial raw materials at a fraction of the cost.
Time for them to get even more efficient, and finally switching to alternative energy sources, everything is possible you just have to do it.
@@AKAHEIZER Ask Bavaria about that subject. The North is ready to go, the South is blocking, while at the same time demanding support, but without any infrastructure 😉
Greetings from the North 😉
If any country can do it, Germany can! 👍💪🧠
You still need to find natural gas first before you can liquefy it. So where is the new source of natural gas. There is simply not enough supply to meet the demand for next few years. Plus you will have to build special infrastructures and ships. This will take years. Of course now Europe is going to be totally dependent on US and won't be competitive unless Europe can find new source of gas in some poor country they can take for free.
Europe will make America great again...
That's the goals of the Us and recently alots of German companies are thinking about moving to the US because the gas is much cheaper over there.
Good to see real rapid action by Germany to get itself off Russian energy. We should all be diversifying our energy sources, and the speed/approach undertaken by German is amazing. Nothing moves fast in the energy market, but Germany is doing a great job in showing how to do it.
looking forward to seeing some rapid action in support of Ukraine - rather than just German industry. Germany has given a pathetically small amount of military aid in terms of German GDP. DYOR.
Today Germany is buying lots of LNG that it didn't previously buy because of it's last 10 years of mistaken energy policy. It is driving up the price of LNG and making ME pay more for energy because of Germany's totally avoidable problems, but that's not the worst of it..... The LNG Germany buys this winter means that poorer countries can't afford to win the auctions and while Europe gets poorer due to German policy errors some parts of the world will have to go without LNG. Paying more doesn't suddenly create all the needed extra gas, it just makes it too expensive for the poorest in the world.
Germany shouldn't be patting itself on the back for filling its tanks it should be apologizing to Ukraine and the rest of the world for empowering Putin and letting him out of his cage.
AND SEND SOME DAMN TANKS TO UKRAINE YOU SELFISH........people.
@Michael Davison
May I ask where you are from? In regards to the military aid, I think you failed to do your own research. There are some underlying problems you are seemingly not aware of. That said, among the small amount of military equipment that was sent is some of the most valuable out of all the military equipment that was sent (from all the countries), but to be fair, the Bundeswehr was not the only one who provided that kind of equipment, other countries provided the same out of their arsenals as well.
But military aid is not the only thing that is important, there are areas which Germany was actually able to be more of service. The Bundeswehr deploys wounded Ukrainian soldiers from Poland since day one. The patients are send to different hospitals around Germany and Europe, esp. to trauma ambulances in big cities. The Bundeswehr does it with an Airbus 310 MedEvac. A flying hospital. The MedEvac Airbus is so unique that even USA sometimes asked Germany for that. It is specially designed for heavily traumatized people that need intensive care during transport. This is the most sophisticated flying hospital you can think of, but the best of it is not the plane, it is the people working on it. 100% highly qualified professionals, specialists for wounded soldiers, to take care of the patients, to save lives. It is one of a kind (I do not know if anyone else in NATO has something with similar capabilities).
Plus Germany is the second biggest financial aid after the US.
I mean, there is much and more to criticize, but I really don't know what you are trying to do here. Obviously German policies were a huge mistake which can't be corrected immediately and which entail their own problems and consequences, but it's also pretty obvious that the former government is not in power anymore and the new government does its best to support Ukraine without committing suicide (which isn't the same as selfishness).
@@Cliohna Good points.
@@michaeldavison9808 Your opinion is outdated, Germany is now No.3 in total arms to Ukraine
Still seems like nobody understand: LNG is only for emergency purpose, it's too expensive for industries as well as consumers, particularly if it comes from far distance countries like US, China or out of Europe. Because it counts on highly unreliable shipping with complex terminals, it's quite unreliable when counting on delivery.
Japan and China rely on LNG on a regular and constant basis, China is the top manufacturing country (28% of global manufacturing output) and the top LNG importer. LNG is not that expensive and liquefaction adds $2 to 3 per MMBTU (1 MMBTU = 0.293071 MWh ), cost of gas in Europe right now is 194 euros/MWh, cost of gas in the US is around $7.5/MMBTU, LNG will be around $10.5/MMBTU, with long term contracts Germany will avoid having to pay the European spot price of 194/MWh or 56/MMBTU.
It would take China a few weeks to build 5 LNG terminals.
Not friendly country
And they'd accidentally start on fire.
@@Matthew-rp3jf All good the CCP will cover it up. lol.
Most things they build work well for a few years.
Renewable gas, heat pumps really, are a far better solution vs fracked gas.
Can’t see how they can get that many shipments to fully substitute the pipelines.
You likely don’t know the first thing about energy transportation so why would you?
@@paperandmedals8316 Germany is still buying Russian LNG to fill the storage. It is not the fact that they have gas, it is the cost of that gas. Everything made in Germany will cost more, and make it's main source of income, which is exports, more expensive than it's competitors. So having gas is only part of the puzzle, if that gas is too expensive exports and income will fall. With no exports no money to buy future gas imports, if they have to print money to pay for gas, inflation will explode. You need to stop criticizing people, when you yourself don't understand macro economics...
@@maximusfl3926 there is no Russian LNG, what are you even talking about?
@@philipkoene5345 You are misinformed. Russia does sell LNG, and Germany is buying it to fill it's reserves since the pipeline gas has mostly stopped. They are buying it a spot prices from Russia.
Here is some information your western media fails to tell you.
Last year, Russia also exported 8.9 trillion cubic feet (Tcf) of liquefied and piped natural gas, 36% of the 24.8 Tcf of natural gas it produced. In 2021, 84% of Russia’s exported natural gas arrived at its destination country by pipeline, and the rest was shipped as liquefied natural gas (LNG). As you see Russia does sell LNG. Russia does not have a lot of pipelines to Asia, so that gas goes by LNG. You need to be informed and not misinformed...
Those 2 terminals will not cyt it, only 1/4 of previous Russian imports. Until 2026 this will be unstable and very expensive for them. They don't want long term contracts, so no deals
The price the germans and other are going to pay this winter is small if they cave in to the putler . So stand tall people !
The Netherlands has a large LNG terminal in Rotterdam that could handle some of the LNG imports over the Rhine river and the Netherlads in the last 6 months build a temporary LNG terminal in Eemshaven close to Germany. As the Netherlands will likely need less gas every year from now on capacity will become available.
Yes Thank God
Of course Germany will not run out of gas if they pay the right price. The question is will Germany's industries be able to stay competitive and even survive after paying much higher price? If they are not able to many will loose their jobs and their economy will be in ruins...
Probably yes. Based on cost analysis at current market rates, you're talking within a 10-15% price difference, and LNG is just a small part of the energy production (natural gas is ~12% of energy production, so probs a 5-10% energy price cost difference, and that was pre-Russia times the percentage, it's dropped now).
Most of it goes into heating, which is the issue, and the electricity prices should stabilize by year-end anyways, since French nuclear reactors are coming back online, that's a major reason for the energy deficit in Europe.
Their own fault. They been warn about this year's ago. Even Trump told them not to use Russia gas. They just laugh at him. Looks who is laughing now.
@@michaelyun2407 I can't stand Trump, but you are right that he did warn the Germans about using Russian gas. He was the only one saying it that I can recall and he was...right.
@@thepianist7084 he was far from the only one, Bush already said in 2009 that Nord Stream 1 (and the proposed 2) were bad, Obama same thing (was even one of the last official statements end of 2016), it's one of the few things that Democrats and Republicans could agree on since the beginning that hasn't changed.
@@Masterrunescapeer Interesting. Thanks!
I wonder how much of a difference a significant amount of electrification could make in Germany. Not just replacing gas for electricity generation but in people's homes for heating and cooking.
In Germany not many cook with gas. The main user is the industry.
Percentage of heating with Gas in German homes is significant (around 50%). Cooking with Gas is almost non-existent.
As mentioned above cooking is a non issue. To the question of heating: There is a big push for heat pumps (wich run on electricity) but there a lot of obstacles. A) Most older homes need to have a energetic renovation before a heat is viable B) significant shortage of qualified tradesmen for installation C) Suppychain issues D) Cost
Where does this electricity come from unicorn farts
@@brianjohnson6053 You know all those billions of Euros they're spending on gas and oil products?...
Liquid Natural Gas is very expensive compared to Pipeline Gas. I keep a small supply of LNG at my house for Emergencies. It's about 100 times more expensive per Cubic Meter than Pipeline Gas here. Hopefully Europe can improve Cost of LNG
LNG gas is imported then is converted to Pipeline gas . In Brazil almost all the gas is imported this way. There is a big one in Bahia. No problem.
Economy of scale. Fear not.
Grind your teeth for freedom and democracy of Ukrainians!
@@OakleyMoodie I'm not afraid. Prices of 16 OZ Steel Bottles of Propane are now 3X higher than last year even though Pipeline Gas is flowing from Canada and North Dakota freely here. It's odd. I use it for a Catalytic Ice fishing heater.
Thank God I don't need to for my Home. I'd be chopping down Trees like Europe now.
@@yomismo6969 You can't be running Naked in the Brazilian Jungle hunting Monkey with a Blowgun in a European Winter. All places are not the same.
German engineers and scientists are some of the best on the planet. When squeezed they will find or invent a way around any problem.
They shld invent..they shld not dodge qatar's existing customers by paying more..existing customers will go to Russia or Iran if deprived of qatar's gas..Germany is ridiculous..they shld not cry of existing customers buy Russian gas bcoz of germany
they found already.... they are buying gas from China and India.... and India an China buy from Russia.... .the difference is just a little bit of the price .. 3x more...
@@ricbace india doesn't buy gas from Russia..we only buy crude oil..china have pipeline so they by both oil & gas..india buy LNG from Qatar..fyi
Member when Trump called the Germans out at the UN for relying on Russia for NG and the Germans laughed at him?
Member when Trump's fascists stormed the US capitol?
Respect and quite an achievement in such a short time, bravo!🙌❤️
"Only" 12 to 13% of Germany's imported NG is from Russia, that's relatively replaceable. Too bad we have a dysfunctional, idiotic American Administration or we could fill that gap alone.
If only they could have started 8 years ago and finished two years ago.
@@Thor.Jorgensen For several years did not listen to the concerns of the 3 small Baltic states. They were spot on, but we ignored them. That will not happen ever again.
@@Tarcidz indeed, nobody could
@@Tarcidz why Russia? Russia didn’t impose any sanctions. They did this to themselves 😂😂😂
One thing I know, gas prices will never be the same.
1 cost of transportation
2 cost of conversion to gas
3 must compete with international buyers..
Meaning you have to offer higher price.
Other pipelines will be built.
@@theraiderra8798 pipelines to where lol through the ocean?
@@PeterTrimboli There have been plans to build pipelines to other countries near Europe.
Read about it, since you obviously know nothing.
@@theraiderra8798 name the country if you know so much?
@@PeterTrimboli Read about it, why do i have to tell you!?
Industrial output would be badly hit..
naaaaa.. they will just pay 2x or 3x more for LNG.... good luck to compete with China.... EU gave the cheap gas to china market and buy US LNG with 2x the price... what a genious...
Won't that depend on how much residents use?
@@ricbace You forget that this is a worldwide crisis. China is facing increasing energy prices too. Russia has nowhere near the needed infrastructure to supply china's energy demand.
Also, the EU is one of China's main markets, and with raising inflation, it's losing purchase power. So your hypothesis is very short-sighted.
@@TheGabbaKeks the collapse of industrial society, limits to growth, is here to stay.
Germany buying LNG at a much much higher price then Russian gas. Thank you America
This should have been in place before shutting down nuclear power plants.
It has absolutely nothing to do with that. Germany has been Europe's largest electricity exporter for years and still is. The problem with gas is that large parts of the infrastructure are geared to gas, e.g. heating systems but also industry. Germany does not need nuclear power. What it needs is more pumped storage power plants.
Start up the two idle reactors would be a good start!
Yeah, they should do it, but more to as a political sign of "this is serious, government is doing everything possible" and to keep the childish german conservatives in the south quiet. In Terms of actual reduction in natural gas consumption nuclear power will do only a small effect.
unless the government subsidize energy, it will cost a lot.
It does not make to subsidize energy, because they want people to consume less, and the only way to consume less is by jacking-up the price. But do not worry we are winning the war in Ukraine (according to West media 😀)
Its a bit tricky to avoid Russian gas because the country is run by a dictator and then go to Saudi Arabia (Oasis of Human Rights) and Iran to ask for help... Why did Germany close all the Nuclear Power stations in the first place? If they didnt have any green energy plans 10 years ago this planet would have been 100x greener now... completely opposite effect and no one will accept the blame...
This is great for Germany to procure LNG from other energy suppliers . I trust these signed
I trust these signed agreements for energy will prove useful for Germany for the upcoming winter months.
@@waldensmith4796 VERY good, price will very good for busniess and public..
@@slobodanpaunovic3834 I am happy for Germany Slobodan trying their very best to come out of the energy crisis . This will prove beneficial for the Commercial Industrial and Domestic energy needs.
Germany manufacturing bases and economy will implode anyway. It's too late for now!!
@@waldensmith4796 Sounds awesome, just one question...uhmmm who is going to pay for it and what is a cost?
it was extremely dumb of Germany to solely rely on russia as its energy source. they could have held them hostage if they were not the biggest economy of Europe. it's time to diversify the energy and preferably move towards nuclear, solar and wind
RUSSIAN GAS was reliable for GERMANY... up to now
Best wishes for Germany from the USA.
yes we are going to make so much money from you. just pay or the gas in rubles
There is enough LNG on the spot market for Europe at 18Bn tons. The problem for Europe is that spot market is expensive. The solution for Europe is to enter into contracts with reliable suppliers, something that illogically the Europeans have declined to do. Meanwhile Japan, South Korea and others have secure long term LNG supplies because they made themselves reliable customers, something that the Europeans aren’t.
too bad they cant open LNG terminals in northern italy or southern france and then pipe the gas to germany...so the LNG ships dont have to travel all the way around europe to germany.
There is significant LNG infrastructure in Spain. However, the French are blocking any pipeline plans from Spain to Germany, because they want to sell nuclear power to Germany.
@@philipkoene5345 The cost of the pipelines was prohibitive to France and not needed.....then came the war.
What was the name of that guy that said Germany was sooo foolish for creating such dependence on Russia, while at the same time paying them billions while they are a military rival? Who was that guy?
Love him or hate him, he was 100% spot on for that issue. Spooky how right he was.
The Iron Curtain is coming sooner than we thought. Fantastic!
U mean civil unrest in germany? There will be breakup between support for russia
@@TMM-N lol. only Russians are “worried” that Europe will freeze or somthing. Their last hope. 😅
Italy's PM and UK's PM already went down, I wonder who will be next this winter when people freeze and become poorer than they were thanks to sanction-induced inflation.
The West side of that Iron Curtain will suffer more.
Germany has money, they can afford to pay their way out of this. E. Europe is another kettle of fish. I don't think they be able to do it.
So the Russian gas cannot be easily replaced? Who would have thought? Robert Habeck told German public radio in January that his country can meet its energy needs without Russian gas. Can Germany do without Russian gas?
"Yes it can," Habeck said in response to Deutschlandfunk's question. He added consumers would receive assistance should energy prices skyrocket. What he did not say was that German's economy would be forced to deindustrialise, lose global competitiveness and its people pay a very heavy price for it.
And than it will adapt and grow again while the Russian economy will be set back by at least 8 years. I won't lose any sleep over it.
@@pjhgerlach Or the German leadership are clueless virtue signallers like Habeck. Look at the seizure of Rosneft refineries. They were designed to refine Russian Urals crude and are useless for any other crude oil. What is the point of seizing assents when you have no oil to refine after the ban on Russian oil? It is a clown show 🤣
They never should have reliedon it in the first place.
@@pjhgerlach Germany will lose it's industry.
@@evilmex1962 no it won't.
The problem with LNG is that it is inherently much more expensive than Russian piped gas. Many companies even whole industries are not competitive at those prices. Even Wolkswagon is thinking of shifting production out of Germany, Czech, and other eastern European countries. The storage tanks are full. And they will last all winter because at current prices no one can afford to buy that gas. However the stored gas will allow all these companies to shut down and move production overseas in an orderly manner. Quite a few companies will move production to China. That is not so good when the US starts its economic war against China. But even if that is delayed, would germans buy Volkswagon cars made in Xinjiang?
Germany exceeds expectations. We all owe them a great deal of gratitude. I don’t care where they source their supplies, as long as they don’t originate in Russian territories.
Compliments in this matter are well deserved by Germany. They wasted no time and have installed infrastructure at an exceptional rate.
@Ruzo2022 not sure who's paying. I do know Ruzoiia is not receiving
It does originate from Russia. It just goes to another country first like India or China at a discount and they resell for more expensive to Germany.
Ruzo2022 i am paying, and i am ok with it. Good times, bad times, live is a loop.
Germany is being done a great deal of injustice in general. They delivered a lot of material and money to Ukraine, did everything they could to free themselves from Russian resources without committing suicide, and also the German population is paying a high price. The communication of the German government is often questionable and irritating, but that does not change the facts that Germany is an important factor in Ukraine's survival.
paying 2x or 3x more.... good luck with your industry...
DW - why don't you explain to Germans and the rest of the Europeans the difference between LNG gas and pipeline gas and provide an assessment of how much Germany and the rest of the EU will have to spend in order to update the EU infrastructure.
Because people will be shocked, it's estimated minimum 2 or 3 times more expensive. 90% of gas storage can last 3 months for houses with restrictions and that's without industry.
I thought Germany was all solar and wind powered?
Whatever we can do to help Germany we have to do it we are all in this together.
Hopefully they will learn that the Russians can't be trusted when it comes to providing energy.
Q- Where is Germany getting its LNG? I read India, China and Saudi Arabia are buying from Russia and selling it to the EU.
Q - Is it true that the EU can buy Russian fertilizers, but under sanctions to Africa?
Q- Is it true that most of the grain out of Ukraine is going to the EU?
What is your source for this?
USA oligarchy: "How can we compete with German industry?"
British banksters: "Just buy German politicians, silly."
😂
Silly comment.
@@cubansoy yeh almost as silly as buying gas from 4000 miles away on a ship when the guy next door sells it cheap a chips bye bye German industry lol hello AFD you destroyed yourselves again
@@scruffylee seems you are AfD
@@scruffylee is not as silly as solely relying on an unreliable gas supplier. infrastructure for LNG seems like a more expensive way to replace russian gas for now. but it's gonna be a helpful instrument to get gas cheaper than before the war after it ends yielding profits long term
It will be very expensive.
Freedom is never free.
No empty compressor port available for new buyer like Germany. This is long term contract and preparation , not sudden buy and take.
It’s about time.
President Trump warned the government of Germany of this very issue. They laughed. I hear laughing can keep you warm. Good luck!
What ever you say, but people will suffer,,, that is a wish from one man,,,,
If we are frugal and lucky with the weather we have chance? That sounds like not a chance
I think it was in context of germany getting trough the winter /without any/ economic damage which would be the best case and like really impressive if we look at our dependence from a year ago. At the end we will get trough the winter without major problems and thats the important part.
This is gonna cost a fortune
It already is... up to 1000% increase, every 10 th business is registered insolvent now and it's just the beginning
if we get the LNG from qatar, wouldn´t it be more sensible to deliver the german ´LNG ito greece, italy,. france, spain, netherlands etc and get it to germany via pipeline?
getting from the mediterranian to the baltic doubles the distance and time...
with the same amount of lng tankers europe could get twice the amount of gas if the delivery is close to the suez exit... crete, cypress ...
@@benchoflemons398 ty
If you go by that route, there will probably be no gas left for Germany? Everyman (or country) for himself..... EU only appears to work as one.. but they are probably not working as one. According to this video, it is only supplying 4.5BCM of gas.... still far from what Germany needs... not to mention at a much higher cost. Habeck and Olaf is throwing a lot of Germany's tax payers money into the problem they created...... They should have sanctioned Russia AFTER they are ready to cut off Russia's energy supply.... what are they thinking i wonder...
Italy and Spain are also leasing LNG gasification ships to take LNG from all sources, likely including Qatar. The USA has stepped up LNG exports and is supplying the EU with half the peak Russia gas supplies. We can send more, the EU just has to have the capacity to accept it.
That pipeline construction will require around 5+ years, but they can also procure it from Algeria, Libya and Nigeria
@@Anaskhanartist we got lots of gas pipelines already connecting pretty much all of europe....