"We need the cars for our handicapped people, for our elderly, for accompanying children to school, for shopping. How can you expect us to spend money on cycle tracks???" I will share this video next time I here that again...
In the Netherlands they take their kids to school in a bike with a box on front for small kids and big kids ride their own bikes. I agree it is difficult for those that are mobility impaired. I use a walker and cannot walk far. But they also have a great bus and tram service.
11 years later. I’ve shared this video several times. This morning again on th-cam.com/video/JlLyS8x1gZo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=ZLzUjgHMWQEJ_sev I consider this to be the first “Not just bikes” video.
A thumbs up isn't enough in this case. Independence, freedom, inclusion, cycling infrastructure that goes beyond mobility but to a humanitarian society
Who else benefits? Motorists do, actually. Can you imagine a dutch inner city where all the cyclists would be in a car instead? Gridlock from hell! So when you are in your car, stuck in traffic, and you see hundreds of bicycles passing you by, don't be annoyed with them. Be grateful. And realise that without them, you would be worse off. A lot worse.
Exactly, when there's no other option in car-dependent suburbs traffic congestion is always going to be a problem. More public transit and safer infrastructure for alternative modes of transportation means less drivers on the roads!
I only now realised cycling gives our less abled people more freedom to go where they want to go. And the opportunity to feel free going at a high speed through the fields with the wind in their hair. Its normal for us. I just realised they don't have this abroad. Thats confining people that are already more confined as it is. Cyclepaths are giving less abled people the freedom to live more equally to abled people...whats not to love about this infrastructure....these paths aren't just about transportation..its public safety, health, economy, combating global warming and care for the lesser abled.
Maaike R I started cycling when it wasn't safe for me to drive a car with my epilepsy. It gave me so much freedom and independence. But there is no infrastructure here for it which makes it difficult at times sadly.
@@spooniecamper hopefully things will change. The dutch got their cyclepaths cause kids were dying and there was an oil crisis making driving a luxery. Now we have climate change,a pandemic, high oil prices etc. In many countries it sparked the creation of cyclepaths. Lets hope its the beginning of a movement. 🤞
The US has no idea what it's missing out on. Seems like governments would rather let automakers and oil companies profit instead of invest funds in public transit and safer bicycle infrastructure.
As a city cyclist in the UK this video is awe inspiring! Luckily there are many canals here in Birmingham which offer a traffic (car) free route. The last shot brought a tear to my cheek!
To my knowlegde there is no distance set in Dutch law for overtaking. The wording is something like 'safe distance' which is different for different speeds. There are perhaps situations where people create unsafe situations, but that doesn't mean the cycle paths are inherently unsafe. The situation in Amsterdam during rush hour is not the measure of things either. In general cycle paths in the Netherlands are very safe for people from 8 to 80. That is because they are designed to be just that.
Safe distance in the Netherlands, as in, a car overtaking a cyclist is about 1 meter. At least that is what I've learned with driving lessons. Not always possible though. As far as I know it doesn't count for less fast traffic.
Our cycle paths aren't unsafe, far from it. And yes I have collided with other cyclists, guess what, you stand up, smile at each other, shake hands and be on you way again.
Mark, Wou even zeggen: ontzettend goed bezig! Mooie promotie van zowel Nederlandse cultuur, fietsen en veiligheid. Niet alles is universeel, maar een goede fiets infrastructuur mag dat wel zijn :).
Like some Dutch commenters, I too only just realised that this infrastructure is so beneficial, not just to cyclists, because I lived there for 10 years &, like them, took it for granted. Here in the UK people are screwed on mobility scooters because (a) we don't really have proper cycle lanes and (b) our pavements are in shit state , broken open where tree roots grow, and patched up by whoever dug it up to lay cable or repair pipe. I was so surprised after getting cable for internet laid in Amsterdam when the Gemeente (council) came after the cable guys and put the paving slabs back exactly how they were. Here in the UK I think the contractors just do it as quick and cowboy-like as possible so our pavements are a patchwork and not at all level, even for able bodied people like me they can be difficult to walk on.
This bicycle infrastructure is amazing. Nothing but good comes from it! America is so fucked up, they only care about profits for large companies not what's best for people and the environment. This will never take off in the US because it discourages people from buying and using cars. The healthcare industry would also suffer because a greater percentage of people would be active on a more regular basis and the government couldnt let that happen...
I share that video every time someone argues that bikes and cycle tracks can only be used by young and able people. This video is one of the best argument for bike! Thank you!
I wish we did too, but one of the things I’ve noticed is how flat everything is in so many of these videos, which is rare in many areas in the U.S. Where I live in Kentucky, widespread cycling would be hampered by determining how to level the paths enough so that you wouldn’t have to walk your bike up the hill or fly at a breakneck speed downhill. Still, would love to have such a scenic and widespread cycling path here!
@@b_lee2003 1. it's not "a" cycling path, it's a whole network. One path doesn't work, you need to connect from place to place. 2. Not all of the Netherlands is flat, just most of it is. But in the more hilly areas people still cycle, because there is infrastructure there. 3. Most of the rest of the world is flat too. Yes, mountain ranges exist, but people rather not live there, they go to the water & that part is flat, that's where the cities are. Look at a light or heat map of the world to see this effect. Regardless of flatness, places with infrastructure have more cyclist than those without. If you haven't seen Not Just Bikes videos, please go watch his video about cycling in Switzerland, you know that country that's in the mountain range known as the Alps.
WOW! Erg mooie video. Ik krijg erg veel zin om op vakantie te gaan naar Nederland nu, maar ik woon er al, haha! Je maakt erg leuke video's. Ze zijn informatief, educatief, en leuk om naar te kijken! Bedankt voor alle uploads. (Pardon my Dutch)
I see people going to all lengths to question the safety of Dutch bicycle facilities... pointing out the worst intersection in the video and grilling you about scooters and overtaking.. Are Dutch bike facilities safe? Short answer, "yes". Evidence? Statistics, local public opinion of cycling safety and taking any old look at who cycles in The Netherlands.
One of the things I tell all my friends that do not live in the Nederland's is the Dutch do not have bike lanes as they understand them. They are stranger then expected but a lot better.
clearance for bikes is 50cm and for motorized bikes 1 meter. if you keep these distances you wont make any trouble. this is not the law but the police could fine you if you create a dangerous situation. depending on the situation your drivers licence could even get revoked(if you drove a motorized vihicle).
I've always wondered about the tiny shoe-box cars like the one at 1:25. They seem to be pretty popular in Amsterdam. Are they meant for people with disabilities?
They are actually not cars, but more like ‘covered’ mopeds. They are also not just for people with disabilities. Anyone over 16 with a moped drivers license can drive them.
Many smaller, low-traffic roads lack seperate cycle paths, but will still provide cyclists with a safe area to stop for traffic light, in front of cars. This makes sure that they're visible and motorists won't miss them. It also makes it easier for them to cross the intersection before cars do and reduces the chances of cars accidentally hitting cyclists.
There are two moped categories in NL. "Heavy mopeds" (yellow regplates) have a 45 km/h restricter, can use the road and combined "moped and cycle" tracks, not normal cycle tracks. "Light mopeds" (blue regplates) are banned from the road, must have a 25 km/h restricter and are allowed on most cycle tracks. Lots of people take the restricter off - these people are breaking the law. Hard to enforce... Markenlei explains: bicycledutch wordpress com slash 2013 slash 02 slash 23
Mark, it never occurred to me this wouldn't be possible in e.g. the U.K. You really are able to view our country through the eyes of a foreigner and notice the things we so take for granted.
as always, you're blasting us with a wonderful video, Mark! Please, would you mind make one about the National Competition of cycling infra-structure (which we know your city won once) - how does it work, etc? thnks in advance!!
anything that can go faster than 45km/h is not allowed on the cycle lanes. so scooters are allowed but bike that can also run on highway is not allowed.
The previous posters were right. We see in this video a most extraordinarily *civilised* society. Hmm.. the rest of us have got some catching up to do.
No! Until recently yes, but lately more and more municipalities (which own the mobility scooters) reduce the max speed to 8km/h (5M/h). 8km/h is too slow for bicycle paths. Not forbidden, but dangerously slow.
wow… So this isn't just tolerated, but its by design - which also explains, why you can live with these sometimes very narrow sidewalks. And the mobility scooters look a lot faster than the agonizing 6 km/h they are limited to here in Germany.
+Kay Jones Usa??? enjoy the next 4 or 8 years with your new president c.q. clown (Trump) :) Cyclists probable have to pay tax next year, less bike-lanes/-paths, more cars/more oil/ more cash/ C02=Bullshit... Dollars/Dollars/Dollars. Don't know if you're from the states, but why do people vote for him??????????????? breanwashed usa lol
Hey Utrecht, my city! The cycling infrastructure in NL is second to none, but the awareness of the average Dutch cyclist of their surroundings can be appalling. On an average trip into town I have to take on people riding on the wrong side of the street against the traffic, people making sudden turns without bothering to indicate, people wavering all over the track because they're playing with their phones, and almost nobody turns their necks round to look out for other traffic. I wish my cycling experience could be like the one in this clip.
Pah, utterly ridiculous, how dare you show up the rest of the world with your civilised thinking and ability to give equal safety to the vulnerable, absolutely disgusting ;o)
That is a bad intersection indeed. The Dutch have to deal with a design legacy too. There is a video about an incident at that junction: /watch?v=YeJ-d86pKsw
@@bramvanduijn8086 I know this is an old question but a lot of his seemingly out of context comments are replies to concern trolls whose comments are no longer visible and have to do with the way TH-cam comments used to work almost a decade ago.
Not exactly rocket-science, is it? Why do so few countries even try to copy this system? I'll bet you could count the ones that do on the fingers of one hand.
It requires investment in construction, and you may have to demolish buildings or car roads to create the space. It is also a long term project, you will be improving forever. Sad, but most politicians are short-term thinkers.
@@bramvanduijn8086 demolish buildings ?! What are you talking ! For freeways they need to knock neighbourhoods, not so for bike paths ! In countries like US or AUS roads are so wide that it is easy to fit in cycle paths by narrowing lanes (better against speeding) or sacrifice a car lane. And bike paths are a lot cheaper to build/maintain. Near Joure they made an interchange junction : €70 mln . An upgrade for the Hoevelaken interchange junction near Utrecht : The lovely sum of €774 mln is reserved. How many bike paths can you fill in for that , if they wouldn't build so many, complex interchanges in US cities. One change that is needed is to step away from strip malls to more neighbourhood supermarkets/malls, so you don;t need to drive out of the hood.
Since when are scooters not allowed? I see them on cycle paths daily in the Hague. AFAIK the ones with blue number plates are allowed to use the bike lanes. A friend of mine was hit by a scooter on a bike path only last year.
Thomas Gevers: Since when are scooters not allowed? I see them on cycle paths daily in the Hague. AFAIK the ones with blue number plates are allowed to use the bike lanes. A friend of mine was hit by a scooter on a bike path only last year. Be happy! In some countries you would have said, five of my friends were killed by/in cars. A perfect world doesn't exist. Nowadays old ladies on e-bikes are terrorizing the cycle paths. Young men wrap their cars around trees. Street races by drunken drivers... But still we have the lowest death rate in traffic of the entire world.
In Amsterdam they are not (yet) prohibited on the cycling lane. Not sure where SuperCharlesDV lives, but here they really are a more then common site. The sales have gone up exponentially the last 5/6 years. There are now 55.000+ brom/snor scooters (against 847.000 bikes) The biggest problem is that the scooters almost always have a boosted engine, so can (and will) go a lot faster on the cycling lane. Another problem is that in the last years they've become a lot wider, taking more space on the already small cycling lanes here, adding to collision risks while overtaking cyclist. The city council is working on a local law to move them to the car lane and make them wear helmets. Not sure what the The Hague council is doing about this.
+Seb K says: "I certainly don't agree with that mobility 'car' using the CYCLE lane !!!" == But the alternatives are far worse. Sidewalks are too narrow, roadsides are too dangerous and often being taken up by the parking space.
According to dutch law a Canta is a 4-wheel closed-body moped. However with a Canta you are allowed to drive without any license on car lanes, bike lanes and footpaths (including shopping centers) from the age of 16. It is considered a vehicle for disabled but you do not have to be disabled to drive one. There is controversy about them. Rules for disabled vehicles are not very clear and some state it is not a disabled vehicle unless it is adapted for a specific handicap.
It's just a mobility scooter with a hat, nothing more. Some folks really pimp theirs, it can look really cool. You could overtake one running if you are in good shape (unless they have a tech savvy grandkid to improve the engine)
@@czarzenana5125 You do need a moped license to drive them. You've got one that goes about 25km/h which is allowed on bycicle tracks only, and you've got one that goes 45km/h which is allowed both on the bycicle tracks and on roads that are appropriate for your speed limit
Is there an accepted, polite Dutch-language warning to give if one is overtaking? (In England I would usually say "passing on your left/right" well in advance on any route that was shared with slower traffic.)
You already got 2 replies on this but I'm somehow not able to see them, so apologies if you already got a proper response on this. Normally you don't really have to give a warning when overtaking, you can just do it. Only when there's little space, the cyclist is cycling in the middle of the path and not paying attention or maybe there's cyclists riding abreast, then you might want to give a warning. Then we tend to ring our bike bell very briefly, just a short ding so they know someone's behind them. We don't tend to say anything, almost all bikes have bike bells so. Just don't go ringing it like crazy. And we always overtake on the same side, the left side. As a cyclist In the Netherlands you're supposed to stick more to the right side so people can overtake on the left.
The professional cyclists are as useless as a f1 car in a city. Once you understand those cyclists are from going point a to b it paints a different picture. But hey, you do you and try to stay alive in your neck of the woods. Let us worry about our own cycling.
Johanna Hoffmann Dutch children learn to cycle from a very young age. Some start from 2 or 3 years old but generally from 4 years of age. Dutch people are therefore quite able and confident on a bicycle. And the speed is not very high in general. The casualty rate for cyclists is very low in The Netherlands. One of the lowest in the world. Wearing a helmet while cycling looks kinda ridiculous for Dutch people. Only when you are speed cycling wearing spandex a helmet is worn.
Divers still get head injuries despite airbags and crumble zones in the front of the car. Same as pedestrians. They should all wear helmets too! The difference is that drivers get way more serious injuries, because impact energy to the head is exponential to speed. K.E. = 1/2 M V^2. Velocity is not linearly proportional to kinetic energy, otherwise V wouldn't have the ^2. Cycling is about on the same flat line as walking, while driving can be way up there i.imgur.com/vLMQjD2.jpg That graph assumes they all have the same mass. When you take mass into account you can 10-fold where the car is at such relatively reasonable speed :P Airbags and crumble zones can only do so much against this natural law. So I propose either we create less collision oppertunites and safer streets (as explained here: th-cam.com/video/5aNtsWvNYKE/w-d-xo.html), or mandate helmets for motorists? Which option will be more effective? Honestly both would be preferable, because cars are very dangerous. But when it comes to the much inherent lower risks with cycling and walking, safe infra is all that's really needed. With a bike, if you could crack your skull on a sharp curb, you smooth it out. With a car, if you could crack your skull on a sharp curb, smoothing it out is not enough as there will be huge blunt forces at such speeds. We need helmets in cars!
What risk? Falling down every 50 metres? They're not that untrained. Crashing into a pothole every 20 metres? The bicycle paths are well maintained. Getting hit by a car? That's why the bicyclepaths separates cyclists from fast moving traffic. So... what risk?
The Netherlands is statistically the safest place for a bicycle. There is simply no need for a helmet. I know this hard to understand if you have never experienced the Dutch infrastructure.
It is not so safe as they assume in the video. I don't dare to let my 5 and 7 yrs old daughters to bike themselfs to school, they are very good bikers but some people are just too hasty to concider children. I bring them with my tandembike to school.
i think your over concernt i was 6 years old and i biked alone. kids arnt stupid if you thought them right they will relise its for there own safety. but then again your the parenjt and you know how your childern are. but dont let your concern take away from there life learning
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"We need the cars for our handicapped people, for our elderly, for accompanying children to school, for shopping. How can you expect us to spend money on cycle tracks???"
I will share this video next time I here that again...
In the Netherlands they take their kids to school in a bike with a box on front for small kids and big kids ride their own bikes. I agree it is difficult for those that are mobility impaired. I use a walker and cannot walk far. But they also have a great bus and tram service.
11 years later. I’ve shared this video several times. This morning again on th-cam.com/video/JlLyS8x1gZo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=ZLzUjgHMWQEJ_sev
I consider this to be the first “Not just bikes” video.
A thumbs up isn't enough in this case.
Independence, freedom, inclusion, cycling infrastructure that goes beyond mobility but to a humanitarian society
+Manuel Bravo Don't break a legg :) We can't handle more people overhere lol ;)....
Manuel Bravo Modern day eutopia. ♥
@@dutch-pcyclist1614 That is such bullshit lol. We have a shit ton of shortages of people, in many sectors.
Who else benefits? Motorists do, actually.
Can you imagine a dutch inner city where all the cyclists would be in a car instead?
Gridlock from hell!
So when you are in your car, stuck in traffic, and you see hundreds of bicycles passing you by, don't be annoyed with them.
Be grateful. And realise that without them, you would be worse off. A lot worse.
Same with that crowded bus you have to wait behind while it's at a stop.
Thanks for saying that. I say this to people the most I can so we can avoid this us-vs-them.
Exactly, when there's no other option in car-dependent suburbs traffic congestion is always going to be a problem. More public transit and safer infrastructure for alternative modes of transportation means less drivers on the roads!
Also maybe get on that bike yourself, if you can?
I only now realised cycling gives our less abled people more freedom to go where they want to go. And the opportunity to feel free going at a high speed through the fields with the wind in their hair. Its normal for us. I just realised they don't have this abroad. Thats confining people that are already more confined as it is. Cyclepaths are giving less abled people the freedom to live more equally to abled people...whats not to love about this infrastructure....these paths aren't just about transportation..its public safety, health, economy, combating global warming and care for the lesser abled.
Maaike R I started cycling when it wasn't safe for me to drive a car with my epilepsy. It gave me so much freedom and independence. But there is no infrastructure here for it which makes it difficult at times sadly.
@@spooniecamper hopefully things will change. The dutch got their cyclepaths cause kids were dying and there was an oil crisis making driving a luxery. Now we have climate change,a pandemic, high oil prices etc. In many countries it sparked the creation of cyclepaths. Lets hope its the beginning of a movement. 🤞
This is the way to show how human-oriented the country is. Great job, Netherlands! Well done, Mark!
The US has no idea what it's missing out on. Seems like governments would rather let automakers and oil companies profit instead of invest funds in public transit and safer bicycle infrastructure.
I must admit, some Teardrops went into my eyes. Thank you Mark!
As a city cyclist in the UK this video is awe inspiring! Luckily there are many canals here in Birmingham which offer a traffic (car) free route. The last shot brought a tear to my cheek!
The rest of the world is still in dark ages compared to this. So civilised.
@@pzen78iu Some examples please.
Thank you so much for this video. I'll be sharing it with my local council as a way to encourage more cycle lanes in my part of the UK
How did it go?
To my knowlegde there is no distance set in Dutch law for overtaking. The wording is something like 'safe distance' which is different for different speeds.
There are perhaps situations where people create unsafe situations, but that doesn't mean the cycle paths are inherently unsafe. The situation in Amsterdam during rush hour is not the measure of things either. In general cycle paths in the Netherlands are very safe for people from 8 to 80. That is because they are designed to be just that.
Safe distance in the Netherlands, as in, a car overtaking a cyclist is about 1 meter. At least that is what I've learned with driving lessons. Not always possible though. As far as I know it doesn't count for less fast traffic.
Our cycle paths aren't unsafe, far from it. And yes I have collided with other cyclists, guess what, you stand up, smile at each other, shake hands and be on you way again.
Do really like the music being used. The voice is nice to. You feel comfortable watching this. And it makes me proud we have this in my country :P
Mark,
Wou even zeggen: ontzettend goed bezig! Mooie promotie van zowel Nederlandse cultuur, fietsen en veiligheid. Niet alles is universeel, maar een goede fiets infrastructuur mag dat wel zijn :).
Thank you for posting this video, pictures of the elderly using shooter in the Cycletrack is just what I need to get them built in San Antonio.
I certainly hope there is no shooter in this video. Now I'm scared to watch😋
Like some Dutch commenters, I too only just realised that this infrastructure is so beneficial, not just to cyclists, because I lived there for 10 years &, like them, took it for granted. Here in the UK people are screwed on mobility scooters because (a) we don't really have proper cycle lanes and (b) our pavements are in shit state , broken open where tree roots grow, and patched up by whoever dug it up to lay cable or repair pipe. I was so surprised after getting cable for internet laid in Amsterdam when the Gemeente (council) came after the cable guys and put the paving slabs back exactly how they were. Here in the UK I think the contractors just do it as quick and cowboy-like as possible so our pavements are a patchwork and not at all level, even for able bodied people like me they can be difficult to walk on.
Man why on earth would you move back here? the UK is a dump
Definitely. The UK can even get pavements correct. They're terrible and so inconsistent in a lot of places.
Short answer before even watching: Everyone. There is nobody who suffers from (good) cycling infrastructure in the long term.
The music is very fitting, I'm so inspired by this and my heart is warmer now.
This bicycle infrastructure is amazing. Nothing but good comes from it! America is so fucked up, they only care about profits for large companies not what's best for people and the environment. This will never take off in the US because it discourages people from buying and using cars. The healthcare industry would also suffer because a greater percentage of people would be active on a more regular basis and the government couldnt let that happen...
This just makes me smile.
This Wonderland is stupid.
3:30 that smile made me human again
I share that video every time someone argues that bikes and cycle tracks can only be used by young and able people.
This video is one of the best argument for bike! Thank you!
So interesting to see the many different users of cycling paths. Thank you, great video.
Dutch people, I love you guys.
I wish America had this! This is spectacular!
I wish we did too, but one of the things I’ve noticed is how flat everything is in so many of these videos, which is rare in many areas in the U.S. Where I live in Kentucky, widespread cycling would be hampered by determining how to level the paths enough so that you wouldn’t have to walk your bike up the hill or fly at a breakneck speed downhill. Still, would love to have such a scenic and widespread cycling path here!
@@b_lee2003 1. it's not "a" cycling path, it's a whole network. One path doesn't work, you need to connect from place to place.
2. Not all of the Netherlands is flat, just most of it is. But in the more hilly areas people still cycle, because there is infrastructure there.
3. Most of the rest of the world is flat too. Yes, mountain ranges exist, but people rather not live there, they go to the water & that part is flat, that's where the cities are. Look at a light or heat map of the world to see this effect.
Regardless of flatness, places with infrastructure have more cyclist than those without. If you haven't seen Not Just Bikes videos, please go watch his video about cycling in Switzerland, you know that country that's in the mountain range known as the Alps.
Vandaag overkwam mij de grootste ramp voor een Nederlander.
Mijn band was lek :(
De bus pakken is gewoon niet hetzelfde.
ai i know the feeling, en i know late reactie XD
Ben je er inmiddels een beetje overheen of loop je nog steeds by de psychiater?
And they are not 'cars' under Dutch law, but a "vehicle for the disabled", so allowed on the cycle path, see also the blog post.
WOW! Erg mooie video. Ik krijg erg veel zin om op vakantie te gaan naar Nederland nu, maar ik woon er al, haha! Je maakt erg leuke video's. Ze zijn informatief, educatief, en leuk om naar te kijken! Bedankt voor alle uploads.
(Pardon my Dutch)
I see people going to all lengths to question the safety of Dutch bicycle facilities... pointing out the worst intersection in the video and grilling you about scooters and overtaking..
Are Dutch bike facilities safe? Short answer, "yes". Evidence? Statistics, local public opinion of cycling safety and taking any old look at who cycles in The Netherlands.
thats realy great, your so organised in netherlands, not here in scotland thou
Also electric wheelchairs are allowed on a bicycle lanes.
Thank you for this video! Where I live, Gatineau, Québec (Canada), we need to learn from you! 😀😂
One of the things I tell all my friends that do not live in the Nederland's is the Dutch do not have bike lanes as they understand them. They are stranger then expected but a lot better.
I wish Dublin .could be more like your cities .as cycling over here is very dangerous as very few cycle lanes in our small city centre.
If it ain't Dutch, it ain't much!
clearance for bikes is 50cm and for motorized bikes 1 meter. if you keep these distances you wont make any trouble. this is not the law but the police could fine you if you create a dangerous situation. depending on the situation your drivers licence could even get revoked(if you drove a motorized vihicle).
I've always wondered about the tiny shoe-box cars like the one at 1:25. They seem to be pretty popular in Amsterdam. Are they meant for people with disabilities?
Yes and you can park then for free.
They are actually not cars, but more like ‘covered’ mopeds. They are also not just for people with disabilities. Anyone over 16 with a moped drivers license can drive them.
Many smaller, low-traffic roads lack seperate cycle paths, but will still provide cyclists with a safe area to stop for traffic light, in front of cars. This makes sure that they're visible and motorists won't miss them. It also makes it easier for them to cross the intersection before cars do and reduces the chances of cars accidentally hitting cyclists.
There are two moped categories in NL. "Heavy mopeds" (yellow regplates) have a 45 km/h restricter, can use the road and combined "moped and cycle" tracks, not normal cycle tracks. "Light mopeds" (blue regplates) are banned from the road, must have a 25 km/h restricter and are allowed on most cycle tracks. Lots of people take the restricter off - these people are breaking the law. Hard to enforce... Markenlei explains: bicycledutch wordpress com slash 2013 slash 02 slash 23
Awesome video. thanks for this.
Again a very beautiful and functional video, thanks Mark, greetings Myriam - AmFietsMus
Mark, it never occurred to me this wouldn't be possible in e.g. the U.K. You really are able to view our country through the eyes of a foreigner and notice the things we so take for granted.
as always, you're blasting us with a wonderful video, Mark! Please, would you mind make one about the National Competition of cycling infra-structure (which we know your city won once) - how does it work, etc? thnks in advance!!
It almost makes you emotional....
One those who is adopted by specials is me. I have a handbike too and what you say is true!
Yes, there is a much better system in The Netherlands. We cannot even use the inadequate cycle paths in the UK!
anything that can go faster than 45km/h is not allowed on the cycle lanes. so scooters are allowed but bike that can also run on highway is not allowed.
The previous posters were right. We see in this video a most extraordinarily *civilised* society. Hmm.. the rest of us have got some catching up to do.
this guy 'Ekofir Togeloyer' has uploaded a copy of your video.
Thanks! Not just this video, 192 of them! I will file a complaint with TH-cam.
Let's go Dutch.
Think of the $$ saved on bath pay maintenance. What damage can bikes cause?
Are kick scootres allowed on cycle paths in the Netherlands?
CollisionChaos6 Yes the are, also inline skaters and longboarders.
Cycling means just riding bicycle in my country.
But i got more meaning from this.
That is the most beautiful video. My idea of heaven
Old people in mobility scooters in heaven? Lets hope God watches videos about Dutch cycle paths.
To me the worst.
@ Please explain...
why is the netherlands so perfect tho
We are better at selling it
It ain't ..
They are vehicles for people with disabilities, yes.
Love ...
Awesome video. Congrats!
No! Until recently yes, but lately more and more municipalities (which own the mobility scooters) reduce the max speed to 8km/h (5M/h). 8km/h is too slow for bicycle paths. Not forbidden, but dangerously slow.
Spring all year?
Cycling in the snow! :) in case you are interested.th-cam.com/video/SYwUUyz6CDA/w-d-xo.html
You know this video is OLD when you see those police/cops xD
wow… So this isn't just tolerated, but its by design - which also explains, why you can live with these sometimes very narrow sidewalks. And the mobility scooters look a lot faster than the agonizing 6 km/h they are limited to here in Germany.
we wish we lived in Holland instead of the dirty hole we live at.
+Kay Jones Usa??? enjoy the next 4 or 8 years with your new president c.q. clown (Trump) :) Cyclists probable have to pay tax next year, less bike-lanes/-paths, more cars/more oil/ more cash/ C02=Bullshit... Dollars/Dollars/Dollars.
Don't know if you're from the states, but why do people vote for him??????????????? breanwashed usa lol
No he doesn't. You do though.
Herr Richtig ????
Herr Richtig You are an idiot.
The Thumbnail looks like 90 year old Jeremy Clarkson on a scooter in Amsterdam :))
Sreaming: "More POWER!!!"?
Check my new 'Tesla-engine' powered scooter... 🙈
If only London was like this
Come on LONDON GO DUTCH! It will help!!
1:10 jan brasser tunnel krommenie-assendelft station
Hey Utrecht, my city! The cycling infrastructure in NL is second to none, but the awareness of the average Dutch cyclist of their surroundings can be appalling. On an average trip into town I have to take on people riding on the wrong side of the street against the traffic, people making sudden turns without bothering to indicate, people wavering all over the track because they're playing with their phones, and almost nobody turns their necks round to look out for other traffic. I wish my cycling experience could be like the one in this clip.
Indahnya..
I wish it was more like this in Texa. I like riding, but hate riding on roads. Way too dangerous with the idiot drivers here.
This is peak civilization.
Pah, utterly ridiculous, how dare you show up the rest of the world with your civilised thinking and ability to give equal safety to the vulnerable, absolutely disgusting ;o)
Sorry we'll behave like regular monsters from now on...
That is a bad intersection indeed. The Dutch have to deal with a design legacy too. There is a video about an incident at that junction: /watch?v=YeJ-d86pKsw
Interesting video. Not sure what your point is though, it sounds like you have a problem with the design of this intersection?
@@bramvanduijn8086
I know this is an old question but a lot of his seemingly out of context comments are replies to concern trolls whose comments are no longer visible and have to do with the way TH-cam comments used to work almost a decade ago.
Not exactly rocket-science, is it? Why do so few countries even try to copy this system? I'll bet you could count the ones that do on the fingers of one hand.
It requires investment in construction, and you may have to demolish buildings or car roads to create the space. It is also a long term project, you will be improving forever.
Sad, but most politicians are short-term thinkers.
@@bramvanduijn8086 demolish buildings ?! What are you talking ! For freeways they need to knock neighbourhoods, not so for bike paths ! In countries like US or AUS roads are so wide that it is easy to fit in cycle paths by narrowing lanes (better against speeding) or sacrifice a car lane. And bike paths are a lot cheaper to build/maintain. Near Joure they made an interchange junction : €70 mln . An upgrade for the Hoevelaken interchange junction near Utrecht : The lovely sum of €774 mln is reserved. How many bike paths can you fill in for that , if they wouldn't build so many, complex interchanges in US cities. One change that is needed is to step away from strip malls to more neighbourhood supermarkets/malls, so you don;t need to drive out of the hood.
Old Dutch police uniforms!
My favourite bit is at 2:40
Patrick Morgan Yeah our overweight cops are doing some exercise during their job. 😂 If he drops 10 kg he is allowed back into the cop car. 😂🤣😂🤣
Somewhat biased towards the positive users of cyclist paths. What about all the scooters that are allowed to use them as well?
Thomas Gevers scooters are no longer allowed on cyclepaths
Since when are scooters not allowed? I see them on cycle paths daily in the Hague. AFAIK the ones with blue number plates are allowed to use the bike lanes. A friend of mine was hit by a scooter on a bike path only last year.
Overdrijven is ook een vak. Alleen de 25km scooters zijn toegestaan op het fietspad.
Thomas Gevers:
Since when are scooters not allowed? I see them on cycle paths daily in the Hague. AFAIK the ones with blue number plates are allowed to use the bike lanes. A friend of mine was hit by a scooter on a bike path only last year.
Be happy! In some countries you would have said, five of my friends were killed by/in cars.
A perfect world doesn't exist. Nowadays old ladies on e-bikes are terrorizing the cycle paths. Young men wrap their cars around trees.
Street races by drunken drivers...
But still we have the lowest death rate in traffic of the entire world.
In Amsterdam they are not (yet) prohibited on the cycling lane. Not sure where SuperCharlesDV lives, but here they really are a more then common site. The sales have gone up exponentially the last 5/6 years. There are now 55.000+ brom/snor scooters (against 847.000 bikes) The biggest problem is that the scooters almost always have a boosted engine, so can (and will) go a lot faster on the cycling lane. Another problem is that in the last years they've become a lot wider, taking more space on the already small cycling lanes here, adding to collision risks while overtaking cyclist. The city council is working on a local law to move them to the car lane and make them wear helmets. Not sure what the The Hague council is doing about this.
I certainly don't agree with that mobility 'car' using the CYCLE lane !!!
+Seb K says:
"I certainly don't agree with that mobility 'car' using the CYCLE lane !!!"
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But the alternatives are far worse.
Sidewalks are too narrow, roadsides are too dangerous and often being taken up by the parking space.
Seb K. The mobiliteit "car" is a Canta, which is only 1,10 meter wide. It has to follow the same rules as bicycles.
According to dutch law a Canta is a 4-wheel closed-body moped. However with a Canta you are allowed to drive without any license on car lanes, bike lanes and footpaths (including shopping centers) from the age of 16. It is considered a vehicle for disabled but you do not have to be disabled to drive one. There is controversy about them. Rules for disabled vehicles are not very clear and some state it is not a disabled vehicle unless it is adapted for a specific handicap.
It's just a mobility scooter with a hat, nothing more. Some folks really pimp theirs, it can look really cool. You could overtake one running if you are in good shape (unless they have a tech savvy grandkid to improve the engine)
@@czarzenana5125 You do need a moped license to drive them. You've got one that goes about 25km/h which is allowed on bycicle tracks only, and you've got one that goes 45km/h which is allowed both on the bycicle tracks and on roads that are appropriate for your speed limit
I see, thanks.
yep
Is there an accepted, polite Dutch-language warning to give if one is overtaking? (In England I would usually say "passing on your left/right" well in advance on any route that was shared with slower traffic.)
The most ''polite'' we have is ''Aan de kant'', but that's not really all that polite.
You already got 2 replies on this but I'm somehow not able to see them, so apologies if you already got a proper response on this. Normally you don't really have to give a warning when overtaking, you can just do it. Only when there's little space, the cyclist is cycling in the middle of the path and not paying attention or maybe there's cyclists riding abreast, then you might want to give a warning. Then we tend to ring our bike bell very briefly, just a short ding so they know someone's behind them. We don't tend to say anything, almost all bikes have bike bells so. Just don't go ringing it like crazy. And we always overtake on the same side, the left side. As a cyclist In the Netherlands you're supposed to stick more to the right side so people can overtake on the left.
Got a bell, will ring.
All you need is that they are aware you are behind them, so a simple 'pardon' would do.
1:00 I don't think the person on the tricycle is impaired.
Balance impaired perhaps?
You don't think so because you can't see it? Not every disability is visible.
I think that is so wonderful for cyclist :-)
What is possible in Deutchland is not possible for France.
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huh, this video is from the Netherlands...!
Dutch - Netherlands
Deutch - Germany
Love from Amsterdam 🤗
No one wears a helmet! A professional cyclist said they were useless.
The professional cyclists are as useless as a f1 car in a city. Once you understand those cyclists are from going point a to b it paints a different picture. But hey, you do you and try to stay alive in your neck of the woods. Let us worry about our own cycling.
They helped me when I tupped over my race bike, but there are always ways to die when you crash at 65kmh downhill , with a helmet
Motorcycles should not use cyclıng ınfrastructure
They don't, and are not allowed to do so.
Mopeds are allowed on most cycle path as their speed is more or less the same as cyclists speed.
Let op 2:41! LOL!
yes they made mostly for people with a mental disabilities. they can only go 45km/h. and they are not allowed on the highway
Many of those grown ups and children are not bearing a helmet. Why do they take that risk?
Johanna Hoffmann Dutch children learn to cycle from a very young age. Some start from 2 or 3 years old but generally from 4 years of age. Dutch people are therefore quite able and confident on a bicycle. And the speed is not very high in general. The casualty rate for cyclists is very low in The Netherlands. One of the lowest in the world. Wearing a helmet while cycling looks kinda ridiculous for Dutch people. Only when you are speed cycling wearing spandex a helmet is worn.
Divers still get head injuries despite airbags and crumble zones in the front of the car. Same as pedestrians. They should all wear helmets too!
The difference is that drivers get way more serious injuries, because impact energy to the head is exponential to speed. K.E. = 1/2 M V^2. Velocity is not linearly proportional to kinetic energy, otherwise V wouldn't have the ^2. Cycling is about on the same flat line as walking, while driving can be way up there i.imgur.com/vLMQjD2.jpg
That graph assumes they all have the same mass. When you take mass into account you can 10-fold where the car is at such relatively reasonable speed :P
Airbags and crumble zones can only do so much against this natural law. So I propose either we create less collision oppertunites and safer streets (as explained here: th-cam.com/video/5aNtsWvNYKE/w-d-xo.html), or mandate helmets for motorists? Which option will be more effective? Honestly both would be preferable, because cars are very dangerous.
But when it comes to the much inherent lower risks with cycling and walking, safe infra is all that's really needed. With a bike, if you could crack your skull on a sharp curb, you smooth it out. With a car, if you could crack your skull on a sharp curb, smoothing it out is not enough as there will be huge blunt forces at such speeds. We need helmets in cars!
What risk?
Falling down every 50 metres? They're not that untrained.
Crashing into a pothole every 20 metres? The bicycle paths are well maintained.
Getting hit by a car? That's why the bicyclepaths separates cyclists from fast moving traffic.
So... what risk?
The Netherlands is statistically the safest place for a bicycle. There is simply no need for a helmet. I know this hard to understand if you have never experienced the Dutch infrastructure.
The first political party that want us to put helmets on will lose the elections.
It is not so safe as they assume in the video. I don't dare to let my 5 and 7 yrs old daughters to bike themselfs to school, they are very good bikers but some people are just too hasty to concider children. I bring them with my tandembike to school.
i think your over concernt i was 6 years old and i biked alone. kids arnt stupid if you thought them right they will relise its for there own safety. but then again your the parenjt and you know how your childern are. but dont let your concern take away from there life learning
It depends on where you live. In my neighbourhood it's comepleatly safe but I would not let kids that age ride alone in the center of Amsterdam.
Please stop shortening the word "infrastructure" to "infra". Nobody does that in English.
Well, it can't be "nobody" if one person does it 😸
Plus, you don't know everybody. 😺