[PG] NZ Wars: Stories of Wairau | Documentary | RNZ

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  • @dianneprice445
    @dianneprice445 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    I hope this history is taught in schools today. My generation didn't get educated on the history. That ignorance of mine and previous generations causes so much harm. Thank you

    • @siix477
      @siix477 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      If we wait for the schools, we might be waiting a long time. I learned about Rangihaetata from my father who took me to Tuamarina when I was a boy. We walked the ground and he retold and showed me what happened. Maybe Te Ao Maori has traditions and ways that extend beyond the formal classroom setting? Could it be that Pakeha "schools" aren't always the preferred or appropriate method for transferring certain knowledge and skills? Maybe Te Ao Maori is just different to the Pakeha world and that's ok? Tihei mauri ora.

    • @shinglehillclimber88
      @shinglehillclimber88 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nicely said Damian

    • @graemelee5701
      @graemelee5701 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The first of human settlement and the inter tribal fighting in this nation prior to European settlement are primarily hidden within tribal stories of the tribes. However there are numerous eye witness accounts that given by elderly tribal chiefs that reveal that even before European settlement this country was not a safe place and the law of Utu was actively practiced.
      Now a different one law for all applies we can only but hope that by learning from the past peace can prevail now and for future generations of all those born of this nation.

    • @Brucemcleod2345
      @Brucemcleod2345 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What are you going to do about it then?

    • @TanerauPairama
      @TanerauPairama ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@siix477in those dense and unforgiving marsh's is a lot of history there. If you keep heading north east of picton you'll come across a sight seeing spot called Karaka Pointe where there is a path to walk, that is such a awesome and spine tingling place.

  • @DavidScott-hi4fz
    @DavidScott-hi4fz 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    If RNZ and NZOnAir are wondering how to stay relevant and engage people with television and radio fading away, this is it. So great to hear these stories from NZ's history. Also if anyone has the rights to James Belich's earlier NZ war doco, that would play great as a podcast! Keep up the great work RNZ.

  • @daveyiam
    @daveyiam ปีที่แล้ว +48

    An excellent documentary that really helps me contextualize my family history. My GGG Grandfather was one of those Pākehā settlers that got caught up in Wakefield's mad operation. John was a barely literate English gardener that moved with his family to NZ for a better life but struggled to find work in Whakatū Nelson. He was enlisted (or press ganged according to some stories) to crew the ship taking Wakefield to Wairau. Here he took part in and (barely) survived the fight. After escaping, he was able to return with Rev. Ironside to help bury the Pākehā dead. Afterwards, he said that thoughts of reuniting with his wife and young children was all that sustained him during this period.
    As a child I thought of this story of my ancestor as a epic adventure, as an adult... let's just say the complexities of this tragic, and seemingly preventable, incident will take time to process. Needless to say, my tamariki will learn about both sides of their Māori/Pākehā whakapapa. Ngā mihi nui. Thank you.

    • @draebarbarich1804
      @draebarbarich1804 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I can't even watch these. It's just so hurtful😢

    • @tangoomegaalpha
      @tangoomegaalpha ปีที่แล้ว +8

      This is a powerful story and statement, I always knew that the soldiers had no choice in their choices of future endeavours. I'm glad he got to go home to bring you to light. I'm the GGG grandson of King Potatau and if I have his mind then I believe his connection to pakeha was just. I'm glad my ancestor lived so that I could too.

    • @kiwiprouddavids724
      @kiwiprouddavids724 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah same sort of a deal for me and my family.

    • @sonnyboy9257
      @sonnyboy9257 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Id feel the same if they were honest lol

    • @ellyharris4345
      @ellyharris4345 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Namaste. My mum would remind me theres two sides to every story, then theres the truth. History is written by the victors. We are all of one love and I want to walk with love. Churr

  • @siix477
    @siix477 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Little disappointed there wasn't a touch more focus on the details of the event. My understanding is a shot was accidentally fired while crossing the many waka lashed together like a big raft right across the creek. Sadly, this stray shot killed Te Rongo. Thompson's party then retreated to the high ground (many hadn’t yet crossed the creek) Te Rangihaeata and his men came out into the open to resolve matters in good faith. Thompson’s men then deliberately fired on them from the high ground without warning. Cowadice in the extreme. Te Rangihaeata then stormed the high ground and killed the captives on that ground. If you visit the memorial and look down at the creek, you can see the high ground provided a significant advantage. There was nothing dignified about Thomson actions that day, he totally underestimated Ngāti Toa... which only happens once.

    • @JabulaniMcdonaldNyati
      @JabulaniMcdonaldNyati 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      your understanding is a fraudulent narrative

    • @toshadavinci5379
      @toshadavinci5379 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mihiringi (actual name Joanne is government funded and totally Biased. She doesnt cover the musket wars (genocide by Ngapuhi ets) Nor does she cover the Chathams genocide its all white man bad brown man good. History is more nuanced than her racism portrays.

  • @Tehui1974
    @Tehui1974 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I've enjoyed watching the NZ Wars series. Keep up the good work RNZ.

  • @tjsoulsurfer45
    @tjsoulsurfer45 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I was taught the colonial narrative. In the end the truth will always come to light.

  • @kjmax1068
    @kjmax1068 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is the area my forefathers came to. I had no idea of this history. Thank you so much for enlightenment

  • @pouwakaruwhiu8349
    @pouwakaruwhiu8349 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Love your videos , telling it how it was the early years of New Zealand keep up the good work.

  • @GeoffWardsPacE
    @GeoffWardsPacE หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Let us not forget that Te Rauparaha and his Ngati Toa came from the Waikato which is just below Auckland and fought their way down to Wellington and Kapiti Island where they despatched the inhabitants, then he was planning raids down the west coast of the South Island. By the early 1830s Te Rauparaha had defeated a branch of the Rangitane iwi in the Wairau Valley and gained control over that area. So don't feel so aggrieved for the poor Ngati Toa who had just taken loads of land from the peoples of Poneke (Wellington) and Wairau

  • @theindigenousnarrative8783
    @theindigenousnarrative8783 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Straight to the point this is what England has always done. Love this the true history of n.z
    I acknowledge all the Māori lost is this battle may their spirit rest in hawaikii with our tupuna..

    • @tima5750
      @tima5750 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What happened to the Moriori people ?

    • @1lionconqueror
      @1lionconqueror ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tima5750 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moriori

    • @ENZEE1
      @ENZEE1 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      ​@@tima5750the people of ngati moriori are still alive mate. They don't like being a mysterious story pakeha made that Maori killed their tribe. It's also not your fault you got given stupid education about Maori. If you ask me pakeha probably tried to kill their tribe to aquire their lands and then tried to blame Maori for their horrific acts against maori people.

    • @tima5750
      @tima5750 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ENZEE1 oh this old chestnut .. all accounts are from pakeha .. and Māoris never committed violent crimes against each other and wiped out other tribes .. it’s all a white person conspiracy. The only moriori alive to tell the tale were the slaves that remained

    • @TanerauPairama
      @TanerauPairama ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@tima5750they are still here. Some say they maori killed them off, some say they left to sail to another place. But thru stories passed on to me by a Kaumatua they were red-haired people and of pale skin a type of iwi that amalgamated with another small iwi and were forced further south because of their indifference. They were forced so far south that to get away from all their troubles of the land they sailed to Rekohu/Rangiaotea (Chatham Islands) to find peace. Some of them come back to the main land after surviving tribal slaughter by both maori and Europeans as they were a passive and friendly natured people. The ones that escaped the massacre had children with other tribes. Some iwi in NZ have naturally red haired kids. Which is mostly a throwback in genetics to the moriori.

  • @joshurrr
    @joshurrr ปีที่แล้ว +3

    At the 6:44 minute mark of this video is shown a painting which has a bent gum tree in the background, in 28 December 1836 by the old gum tree In Glenelg South Australia under the command of Hindmarsh Stevenson gave the proclamation of South Australia by what looks like the exact tree in this painting

  • @noelzydee2636
    @noelzydee2636 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I have always wondered why maori were so passionate and adamant about their land's and why they'd fight for it. Now, watching all these video's, I've come to realize and understand the reasoning behind their fight against colonization and especially against pakeha. Im 40 now and had no idea of the stories behind Aotearoa and the battles of the maori people had to endure to fight for such rights.

    • @ClintOrris
      @ClintOrris 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes but these videos are also extremely biased and leave out a lot of important information. They also paint the Maori as civilized, which they were certainly not. They had no code of ethics or honor, they were cannibals, slavers, and even genocide each other on a regular basis.

    • @fteeagle9446
      @fteeagle9446 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@ClintOrris that's a bit fragile

    • @kinohunt3505
      @kinohunt3505 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@ClintOrrisur wrong on all levels!!!! I know wat happened 2 my peaceful ancestors of Parihaka Taranaki 5th Nov 1881 when 1600 englishmen invaded there peaceful abode, & they were a passive resistance

    • @skidlinerz
      @skidlinerz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What details did they miss out exactly? the part where your ancestors stole, raped, pillaged, and murdered ​@@ClintOrris

    • @Foxhound63A
      @Foxhound63A 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ClintOrrisI genuinely feel embarrassed for you...🤡

  • @KahurangiSteez
    @KahurangiSteez ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This a really cool idea. I never knew this series existed, I'm going to watch all of them. Not quite as detailed as Michael Kings Penguin History but some really riveting korero.

  • @skidlinerz
    @skidlinerz ปีที่แล้ว +10

    75 million payout and an apology from the crown will never make up for the loss Ngati Toa and many other iwi experienced from the Crown.

    • @promovidnz1754
      @promovidnz1754 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      How much more money does they need. What did they do with the 75 million?

    • @skidlinerz
      @skidlinerz ปีที่แล้ว

      @@promovidnz1754 why dont you ask them

    • @OneGodApostolicnz
      @OneGodApostolicnz ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tribal elite bought new rangerovers and gave nothing to their people .

    • @Digmen1
      @Digmen1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The maori chiefs sold their land in South Island.
      They wanted the money and the muskets and the blankets.
      Do blame us Europeans
      The Maori anted Europeans to come here and stop the musket wars
      Blame your ancestors who sold the land
      And bear in mind that most of the South Island was pretty baren and useless at the time.
      And that there were only about 2000 maori in the whole South Island

    • @Mungoball-
      @Mungoball- 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Elite Māori are screwing over their own people, open your eyes.

  • @BigSnapper
    @BigSnapper ปีที่แล้ว +5

    All government buildings should be under Iwi ownership. Taxpayers can then pay the lease. That'd be fair compensation.

  • @darrylwhite9660
    @darrylwhite9660 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Mihi, another triumph to add to your growing collection of triumphs. A long overdue re-look at this difficult affair.

  • @andrewattenboroughtwothumb4697
    @andrewattenboroughtwothumb4697 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Some of my ancestors on my mother’s side of the family were from Waikato and from Wellington and from Auckland in Nz and from the Cook Islands

  • @andrewlim9345
    @andrewlim9345 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Thanks, learnt more about the background to the Wairau affair.

  • @joevip76
    @joevip76 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's like,- now is a good time to tell these salvages their history. How could you? I'm so crushed and discussed with this knowledge it's hurt's, but we are warriors, we have love and compassion like no other, we're a Nation of the Pacific Ocean. 🌊 In the end the truth will prevail. Let our voices be heard my God Amen 🙏

  • @kjmax1068
    @kjmax1068 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    So so sad. Maori have been so wronged. This had me in tears

  • @andrewmaccallum2367
    @andrewmaccallum2367 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Solidarity with all colonised peoples throughout the world! ✊

  • @saberlove7232
    @saberlove7232 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wellington Company = New Zealand Company. History repeats.

  • @melissanuku5470
    @melissanuku5470 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    ARE THESE SERIES BEING SHOWN TO OUR TAMARIKI IN KURA? THEY SHOULD BE

    • @tima5750
      @tima5750 ปีที่แล้ว

      Moriori

    • @yo_Aunty.from_NZ
      @yo_Aunty.from_NZ ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nope the teach the corrupted story of te tiriti o waitangi made by pakeha (te kuini)

    • @nathanneumann9737
      @nathanneumann9737 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I am a secondary school history teacher and I can confirm that these excellent resources are being used in my classes.

    • @kinohunt3505
      @kinohunt3505 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@nathanneumann9737I did history back in the 90s & this wasn't taught sad az, thank God I learnt about my ancestors @ Parihaka as I was alwayz there az a teenager & didn't realize how disgusting they were treated 5th Nov 1881 treated atrocious, the men arrested & made 2 walk 2 New Plymouth & put in jail 4 being a passive resistance, representing peace!!!!! That's unforgiveable

  • @ernieneedham199
    @ernieneedham199 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for the content. 😊

  • @selwynhingston9484
    @selwynhingston9484 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Let us not forget that the Maori were not the bad guys who were out to loot their lands.

  • @John-ee5dh
    @John-ee5dh ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I love the part where George grey asks the chief what will you eat , the chief responds we will eat you beautiful

    • @jenlt5125
      @jenlt5125 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes because they had already wiped out 6 species of Moa by this stage, in just 3 generations actually, cannibalism followed. This is also history. I don't think it's impressive or funny at all, it's depraved. It's also a good way to introduce disease.

    • @melaroha8003
      @melaroha8003 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@jenlt5125 people from all different cultures did the same thing at one point In history even Pakeha.

    • @TanerauPairama
      @TanerauPairama ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@jenlt5125most Maori were not cannibals as there was plenty of recourses for food as they were taught to live off the land, rivers, streams and sea. Most iwi thought of cannibalism as Tapu(sacred) and was only for the most vile and cursed people. When i was a little kid a maori elder told me this story around a firepit at the beach while we were cooking our toheroa.

    • @RaewynTairi
      @RaewynTairi 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@jenlt5125 you need to look up European cannibalism. Cooked human flesh were being sold in markets over in Europe because of famine. Missionaries were sent to nz to stop cannibalism meanwhile Europeans were eating mummies for medicinal purposes

    • @zealantis
      @zealantis หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@RaewynTairiAe, kia ora. Also our cannibalism wasn't used commonly as the Britishs was in the 1800's.

  • @adriennetibble4156
    @adriennetibble4156 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    +Chief Rawiri Puaha was the son of Te Matoe a senior chief. +Nohorua and Te Rauparaha were his uncles. Brothers of his mother Hinekoto.
    +He was also the resident Chief of the Wairau with his brothers Te Kanae and Tamaihengia. Those two were also apprehended with Te Rauparaha from Taupo Pa.
    +Some of the muskets dropped by Wakefields men were not even loaded properly and wouldn't have fired. Which shows how inexperienced they were. They lost their lives on a fools errand. And they never stood a chance.
    +The three chiefs who signed over the Wairau to the crown were Rawiri Puaha, Tamihana Te Rauparaha and Matene Te Whiwhi..... This was basically a ransom to procure the release of Te Rauparaha. Which sounds like kidnapping and blackmail to me 🤷🏾‍♀️

  • @decay-154
    @decay-154 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great to hear Ngati Toa understanding of Wairau Incident . Grew up in Blenheim sad to see rich greedy fools from Nelson / England get so many people killed . History seemed to repeat in Waikato Land wars of 1860s rich greedy fools from waikato wanted Tainui land . 1st timothy 6:10 the love of money is the root cause of all kinds of evil . Hoping one day clan Mac Gregor will receive compensation from the Crown for our confiscated land . Does anyone know what happened to Gaptain Wakefields sword?

    • @StoneWii
      @StoneWii 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We are only hea to be part of the land caretakers, Not own or dictate squares drawn by a greedy system

  • @parkiwi4787
    @parkiwi4787 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Mistake, Maori never said they owned the land. They had the right to live on and protect it.

    • @k3630
      @k3630 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Might is right when it comes to land ownership. Been like that everywhere for all time

    • @zealantis
      @zealantis หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes we never "owned" the land, thats a pakeha concept. We were the protectors of that land. We understood that our body was earthly and came from the earth, and our soul, concious and breath was godly, from the heavens. Mother nature was meant to be protected by man. Not destroyed like today, now look at it, many lakes that were swimable 40 years ago are polluted, forest gone and replaced by trees, prickle bushes and vines that do not help the environment, and in most places in towns and city's only tiny patches of papatuanukus body is sticking out in a mist concrete that blocks the electrolyte flow of her to our bodies, same as what these energy diminishing shoes that we wear now do.

  • @bomblifenewzealand
    @bomblifenewzealand ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Thats what happens when you try be foolish and greedy for land. They had all that time to fix the solution instead tried to ignore it. They couldnt ignore the patu in the end.

  • @promovidnz1754
    @promovidnz1754 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The documentary starts by saying the Maori were utterly devastated after this. Yet Maori names remained up and down the country - many maraes remained - the people were not wipe out - the real devastation happened after the 1950s when they were urbanised.

    • @accessdenied1able
      @accessdenied1able 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Colonisation is exactly that, .. it started before urbanisation, it started with the displacement,

    • @lilianabracanov239
      @lilianabracanov239 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes and Nga Tahu breached their treaty settlement by leaving them out bc they couldn't whakapapa back to the Iwi, so no eligibility to apply for iwi funding

  • @wifla463
    @wifla463 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome watch 🥰

  • @AdamCurrey-iy8hk
    @AdamCurrey-iy8hk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ngati Toa, were absolutely in the right, I'm born and bred in Wairau, raised at the Wairau bar, son of a Englishman

  • @alainabradley6655
    @alainabradley6655 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good too see some honest history. Greed is such an ugly thing

  • @maureenmcsweeney9768
    @maureenmcsweeney9768 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's over sixty years since I lived In NZ and I hope that a more balanced and true history curriculum is now being taught in schools in 2023.

  • @youtubemusic5210
    @youtubemusic5210 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    To whoever watches this , please watch the others too. These historical events must be shared to all generations, especially those to come after we are long gone.

    • @toshadavinci5379
      @toshadavinci5379 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mihiringi (actual name Joanne is government funded and totally Biased. She doesnt cover the musket wars (genocide by Ngapuhi ets) Nor does she cover the Chathams genocide its all white man bad brown man good. History is more nuanced than her racism portrays.

  • @lilianabracanov239
    @lilianabracanov239 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I channelled Te Ruaparaha once when I was at Waikato University studying LLB First year doing Maori Law and Society paper.

  • @gdotgotyothot
    @gdotgotyothot ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Make more of these 💯

  • @OneGodApostolicnz
    @OneGodApostolicnz ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Do one on the maori massacre of the crew and passengers of the Boyd in Whangaroa.

    • @lilianabracanov239
      @lilianabracanov239 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes that's an atrocious story when Maori acted completely out of order and over the top.
      Another Double Cross

  • @barloswkitheweasel1836
    @barloswkitheweasel1836 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you do a similar docco on Cannibal Cove Marlborough also. Captain Cooks crew cooked

  • @JabulaniMcdonaldNyati
    @JabulaniMcdonaldNyati 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Why is this similar to South Africa , Zimbabwe, Malawi , Zambia and all other Africa land thefts through like of Cecil John Rhodes British South Africa Company.

    • @zealantis
      @zealantis หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because colonisisers used the same tactics on us all. Even to this day, Canadian idegenous fight for the crown to honour their treaty. Very similar to what maori are going through.

  • @margaretstuart8265
    @margaretstuart8265 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very well researched and narrated. Ka rawe

  • @jeremymia4949
    @jeremymia4949 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice RNZ...

  • @dannyjacobson1963
    @dannyjacobson1963 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Crazy how the teriti of waitangi was signed before the wars kicked off pretty much saying Maoris didn’t even no what it was also crazy how the pakeha hold it tightly today and so they should

    • @zealantis
      @zealantis หลายเดือนก่อน

      It was the pakeha who breached the treaty tho? Yes so did maori but that was after many were forced off their lands, raped, and killed.

  • @halielong5424
    @halielong5424 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    maori were defending their land from being taken from them.

  • @jeremiahking3185
    @jeremiahking3185 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thats why us maoris got nothing but we are tangata whenua we git rights💯👊🏽

    • @rossyreincarnated3017
      @rossyreincarnated3017 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Got nothing? Bro, Maori are very well catered for today. Prioritized in almost everything.

    • @jamesmorgan9282
      @jamesmorgan9282 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@rossyreincarnated3017 Just give back the land.

    • @rossyreincarnated3017
      @rossyreincarnated3017 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jamesmorgan9282 the land is often returned but then sold off then reclaimed once again, I don't think you know how greedy Maori operate. Settlements are constant and massive, Maori are not hard done by in this country. Which is great but those dirty corrupt iwis need to stop playing perpetual victim.

    • @Tehui1974
      @Tehui1974 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rossyreincarnated3017 In Treaty Settlements, the financial compensation is roughly 1-2% of the real value. For example, Ngai Tahu received $170M for land that was valued at $18B. Pākeha were privileged at the expense of Māori. Want to swap?

    • @rossyreincarnated3017
      @rossyreincarnated3017 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Tehui1974 sure I'll swap, I have no land or money though.

  • @marshalldavid4467
    @marshalldavid4467 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I traced my earliest European ancestor in New Zealand from here, he was a waler named Michael Aldridge hes got a bay in port Underwood named after him call "tongue bay" as he was a tongue between Maori and English speakers, he had a maori wife named pari and he helped both European and maoris after the affray. He helped some of the Europeans who ran on to his property in the area which he purchased from a chief in 1839 a year after he came to NZ. He helped ngati toa cross the cook strait and talked to them after the event with reverend Samuel Ironside also fluent in te reo and collected the pakeha bodies to bury them. The monument marks the mass grave that he helped dig and the maoris were buried in their tribal area from what I read and probably given a traditional burial

  • @mohammedbinladen4619
    @mohammedbinladen4619 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You have to at least wonder how accurate this is considering it's RNZ, and RNZ is known to have a far left bias.

    • @accessdenied1able
      @accessdenied1able 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      dr Vince O'Malley is well researched, and so is governor fiztroys and swains declaration, well recorded, . You guys don't like the truth being revealed, ... Research Wakefield and his crimes in England, but then you lot ain't really interested in the truth, just protecting the colonial narritive, ..

    • @Mungoball-
      @Mungoball- 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Fact of the matter is, no one alive today was alive when this happened. It's all biased stories. Both Māori and European have their own best interests when telling a story.

    • @Bronnie55
      @Bronnie55 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There are clear written records and first hand accounts captured in writing on both sides that this is the history
      But yeah go on and write it off as far left rhetoric, without tracking down and looking to the archives yourself .

    • @lilianabracanov239
      @lilianabracanov239 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It's not accurate

  • @gotowned6172
    @gotowned6172 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can someone please tell me in short... this entire video on what happened. As short but clear on this story please.

    • @numbereightyseven
      @numbereightyseven 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What are you saying? It's hard to know what your comment means.

    • @Foxhound63A
      @Foxhound63A 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It covers the European theft of the indigenous peoples (Māori) land...
      Despite the racists in this thread crying otherwise.

  • @matai2437
    @matai2437 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If
    The land was confiscated it means it doesn't belong to them

  • @jaydentyrell9483
    @jaydentyrell9483 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Chur Māori's. ♥️

  • @waynecarrol3415
    @waynecarrol3415 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I’m an Aussie (so nothing invested in this) Wakefield got what he deserved Māori were the decent higher ethical grounds

    • @margaretstuart8265
      @margaretstuart8265 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Wakefield's first attempt at private land sales to colonial settlers was Adelaide.

    • @joshurrr
      @joshurrr ปีที่แล้ว

      Right, that explains the painting at the 6:44 mark then

    • @CalebRota-fe7gn
      @CalebRota-fe7gn ปีที่แล้ว

      thank you..

  • @tw7278
    @tw7278 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you to Mihingārangi one again for bringing our retold history back into our indigenous / iwi perspective and preserving this kōrero.
    McKillop was an ensign of the British navy, who wrote clear accurate notes of the affray, as he was there, along with captain English also from the navy. The NZ Company had not attained the lawful right to have an official armed force for Nelson and wairau appointed to them, so they acquired soldiers paraded as simple farmers. Do not be mistaken, Police magistrate Thompson (was suffering from syphilis hence his apparent rage filled outbursts) was egged on by Arthur and the Wakefields to make an example of Te Rauparaha and it was at a public meeting that he was overheard by Ngati Toa, calling Te Rauparaha a thuggish bully , a lowly dog that should be taught a lesson, and " that he could be tempted even by a piece of damper bread" that was the insult returned, for it was ngau tuara kōrero of our Chief and like many before, each insult would be accounted and answered to.
    A wero by te Waaka te Kotua was also delivered and Thompson stood on the taki. In Mckillops diary he remembers hearing fire English fire, not forward English forward. The first shot took Te Rongo. The archeological evidence found at the exhumation and checking of the skull of Te Rongo determined by a current day (1990s) forensic police investigator, she was killed by a marksman shot to temple to temple. My Whānau remembers this story too well because mum Raiha Waitohi Waaka retold this kōrero from her grand aunt Kui Mata Kotua who was alive at that time .

    • @lilianabracanov239
      @lilianabracanov239 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I just listen to her interview David Seymour and my goodness she is is lacking in ability to stop from talking interrupting mucking up all the facts and misunderstanding constitutional law

  • @sandiego1973nz
    @sandiego1973nz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was moen, awesome 👌

  • @turangatohiariki3042
    @turangatohiariki3042 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How we earnt our TREATY WITH THE CROWN walking off the battelfield as 1people & equal's AS WAS OUR LAND WAR'S

  • @stealthslayer4406
    @stealthslayer4406 ปีที่แล้ว

    Today Thompson roams the underworld with no “mana” known as the fool who’s temperament and greed got him and others killed

  • @grahamhughes2025
    @grahamhughes2025 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    thank you, thank you, thank you. Good truth to know, but not a good truth. I have heard and will carry that in my kete, that kete of hope for justice that tangata whenua have been so very very patient with. What scumbags the Wakefields and Grey were. Reading Te Puea by Michael king, Grey was the dirty dog there too with taking an opportunity to grab land...and destroy a thiving Kingitanga.....I am ashamed by those actions.

  • @sarah-angelhopa6347
    @sarah-angelhopa6347 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Pakeha = Resource & Power through money.
    Maori = Indigenous Rights. Oppressed innocent people that were taken advantage of.

    • @ourpeople-g7r
      @ourpeople-g7r 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pakeha = don´t do ram-raids.
      Maori = do ram-raids.

    • @lilianabracanov239
      @lilianabracanov239 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Don't you mean coloniser

  • @john23402
    @john23402 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is not important what the truth is about land deals. When one cannot reject outsiders from entering his territories, he will eventually lose his land.

  • @brendonthompson1691
    @brendonthompson1691 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We still live on

  • @chucktify
    @chucktify ปีที่แล้ว

    Thers shouldn't be an explanation for the actions of Rangihaeata. Pakeha had it coming and still do.

  • @calebtana104
    @calebtana104 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Should make these stories into movies

    • @francois9747
      @francois9747 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You should definitely check out the film "The Convert" just got released on the 13th of March and is set around the same time period as this video.

  • @klburroughsnz
    @klburroughsnz ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My understanding from reading a very brief history of this conflict & the Nelson area is that Ngati Toa lived west of Hamilton until the 1820s when Tainui forced them out (stole their lands?) and they then moved south, fought & conquered Ngati Ira (in the Wellington area) who were eradicated (so Ngati Toa stole their lands) They Ngati Toa also 'took' lands in the Nelson region. So who 'owned' these lands prior as it appears they were only in the region approx 20yrs before this tragedy unfolded?
    Also spoken history seems to focus on Pakeha as the only ones who killed and stole lands, when they appear to simply be the last to do so

    • @jeremywhakarau2403
      @jeremywhakarau2403 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Your understanding is based on your racist opinion

    • @Billythekiddnz
      @Billythekiddnz ปีที่แล้ว

      Im offended by your racist ignorance 😤

    • @rossyreincarnated3017
      @rossyreincarnated3017 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jeremywhakarau2403 could you be specific, please.

    • @klburroughsnz
      @klburroughsnz ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Billythekiddnz So the historical info I quoted (not mine) is wrong?

    • @klburroughsnz
      @klburroughsnz ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jeremywhakarau2403 So is the historical info I quoted (not mine) wrong?

  • @pareheu8783
    @pareheu8783 ปีที่แล้ว

    My great grand father is Te Haeata from Waikato

  • @adamskinner5868
    @adamskinner5868 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have given up faith in the Waitangi tribunal after I learned something about those sitting on it deciding what's true, right or fair. I heard one of the commissioners speak at uni and it didn't seem very fair or factual to me, more like personal opinion

  • @promovidnz1754
    @promovidnz1754 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ha - equating Te Raparaha with Queen Victoria is a bit of a joke.

    • @zealantis
      @zealantis หลายเดือนก่อน

      Queen Victoria has no mana, only stolen wealth.

  • @toshadavinci5379
    @toshadavinci5379 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ask why Joanna Forbes doesnt cover the Chathams Genocide by Ngati toa and Ngati Mutunga or the musket wars . TOTALLY BIASED.

  • @mAKETU13
    @mAKETU13 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tapuae o Uenuku te Maunga
    Wairau te Awa
    Ngati Huataki te Hapu
    Rangitaane te Iwi
    Kurahaupo te Waka
    Te kopi o Kupe te Roto
    Rangitaane tangata rau

    • @ourpeople-g7r
      @ourpeople-g7r 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      orakei korako whakatapua te hepetua o te rangi ngangapare waimere orakei korako maoritanga o te whanga otepe tua kaimoana hohepe e ruangangatoa waitaru o te haputangi e te matarua waitaru orakei korako

  • @coastsouljah
    @coastsouljah ปีที่แล้ว

    It's good you have your hair blonde and wear European makeup.
    At least now, some might hear you more. And might take this information seriously..

  • @xjr1300nut
    @xjr1300nut ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What needs to be realized there were shysters on both sides when it came to land sales.
    Te Raupreha was known to sell land not his, as did other tribal chiefs.
    There are records of some blocks of land being sold several times in one day to unsuspecting settlers, look at Taranaki and Southland.
    My take on most of the land issues is geed on both sides, just like the later greed we are experiencing through the Waitangi tribunal today.

    • @1eastcoastqueen
      @1eastcoastqueen ปีที่แล้ว +1

      wheres your evidence? otherwise this is heresay

  • @jeremiahking3185
    @jeremiahking3185 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Same goes to Australia america

  • @annemackay-ib4gy
    @annemackay-ib4gy ปีที่แล้ว

    Im so pleased theyve aired this as its been one sided where the maori have run riot with their hard done by stories. The maori are lucky, they have maori and European blood, and should be celebrating both heritages, cos thats what they are, a mixture of European and maori blood. Indigenous on that basis, NO, their ancestors travelled to nz, so again, Indigenous, NO.

  • @promovidnz1754
    @promovidnz1754 ปีที่แล้ว

    The bald white guy with popping eyes certainly embelishes the history even though he was not there.

    • @promovidnz1754
      @promovidnz1754 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ie he says he spoke in a most horrible voice. Got any recordings to back that up.

  • @simon-ds1vp
    @simon-ds1vp 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    utter decimation ,,, Forbes is making a career of rewriting history to create a new narrative

  • @torqingheads
    @torqingheads ปีที่แล้ว

    Quite a history about the Maori - put the Inca's or the Aztecs to shame in degeneration. Outcast during the 13th century as weaker primitive Neolithic people by the invading Hawaiians & Tongans (Maori were from the original wave of primitive Asian/Melanesians pushed right out across the Eastern Pacific by successive stronger more advanced groups coming from the west). They were outcast on rafts and some floated up in NZ stranded for 500 years. The weaker were pushed down to the South Island or Chathams etc. So the South Island Maori (had their own language) were the weakest of the weak. They were captured and eaten as 'Slave flesh' by the northern Maori doing raids. (Well they all ate each other - 80% of Maori pre European were dark skinned easily fattened slaves farmed and eaten by a lighter skinned 'Ariki' thin wiry elite royal caste). So it was with some righteousness as well as British cunning that they armed the southern Maori who then with muskets launched a genocidal war on the north.. That plus measles & flu halved the Maori population and removed most of the elite. The British then liberated the slaves and outlawed cannibalism. The northern Maori fought with the British against the south bad west Maori 'rebels'. The Maori sued for peace and a treaty was signed that removed all sovereignty and made them subjects to the English crown where the English would protect them from each other. Land could only be sold to or via the Crown. Maori could live on their reservations with native custom but none did. The treaty of Waitangi is strikingly clear in that the Maori cede sovereignty completely and become citizens of Great Britain - all 3 clauses lock that in. Nothing in today's 'Maori' culture is authentic. The music - all European (Maoris did not have tonal music, the songs are missionary tunes or introduced - Poi dance is from Islands and Stick dance from old Malaya. The carvings and art - all European - Arabesques that was the fashion at the time. Original Maori had limited dash carving and no painting of objects. No written language - all the syntax & grammar plus vowel inflection is European. No technology - some lagoon canoes and wood or stone Neolithic tools. No food sources - like pigs or crops - they left that all behind, all they had was a weak inbred fox (now extinct), some rats and a weak dismal pacific yam. They ate out all the bird-life, didn't know how to farm the sea as were island people and so they turned to societal cannibalism. Today - no full blood or half blood left. No genuine tradition and almost all are offspring of Maori slave females sold to white settlers for muskets or food. -So more fake than the 'Sioux' or 'Cherokee' or 'Crow' who had at least retained some genuineness about who they were and their history. -Everything you 'saw or experienced' is Fake. A totally convected disneyfied tokenistic set of inventions fueled by a grievance culture of mixed-race imposters fetishing a false past bad history because it pays benefits.
    'This Horrid Practice' - Professor Paul Moon, "A Savage Country" Professor Paul Moon 'Behind The Tattooed Face' - Heretaunga Pat Baker, 'Anthropology In The South Seas' - H D Skinner

    • @levimcmeekin6690
      @levimcmeekin6690 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂😂😂

    • @TanerauPairama
      @TanerauPairama ปีที่แล้ว

      @torqingheads
      Is that right?!
      I learnt to carve at a young age an was taught how to examine and read the story being shown. As it is a form of communication and history. My kaiako, told me that he was taught by his great grandfather who learnt from his own koro before they passed n im positive that taa moko is another way to express n show our history on our skin. My kaiako also said that the first taa moko that was done was to impress another mans wife, which eventually worked. Enraged by her for leaving him for another, he also had his people carve what he saw around his Paa and Marae onto himself to get her back but doing this angered his other wives so they snuck into the other iwi at night killing her an marking her body with koru n curved gashes to her face, stomach, hips and thighs.
      How much of that is true? Im not sure. But when i was being told this i could tell that he missed his koro n always told stories to us bout things i didnt understand then. But im sure as hell now, that he told stories that was told to him by his ggf he was a bit of a hardarse, strict asf but loving.
      Sorry for the long bloody speech lol.

    • @otani8806
      @otani8806 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Never we're a spiritual people. The colonialists best shot was to bred us out and maybe they did. But they couldn't wipe out the language or the rituals. If anything we're a lot closer and more civil towards each other than at any other time in our history(it is a big deal) The Mana of the land transcends the physical. They even have a maori version of the N.Z anthem. That they perform on the international stage. We're stronger now confident in the direction of our progress also knowing that there's still a long way to go Kia Kaha Kotahi Ra
      Our strength is our unity.

  • @ΒαγγεληςΝοτης
    @ΒαγγεληςΝοτης 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When someone surrender is a prisoner all the others is brutality

  • @john23402
    @john23402 ปีที่แล้ว

    It sounds like if any details of incident changed, the outcome would be different. What nonsense! Nothing would change as it was.

  • @charged2times542
    @charged2times542 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just in time for Waitangi day 🤣🤣

  • @toast47624
    @toast47624 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Those poor settlers. First swindled out of there money then out of there lives. I knew before watching this that despite this they would be blamed. We will forever remember the truth!

  • @stopcogovernance
    @stopcogovernance 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Never has so much money been spent on such dishonesty.

  • @richsmith3300
    @richsmith3300 หลายเดือนก่อน

    To my Pakeha brothers its not us maori you need to worry about its everybody else..

  • @ernieneedham199
    @ernieneedham199 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wow , just 75 Million, laughable. The remunerations should come from the British families that profited from the fraudulent deals , and I bet their British descendants are still living of the rip off that was carried out by the British. Says Pakeha Guy

  • @jimmurihiku8009
    @jimmurihiku8009 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The biggest massacre and injustice in post European times in the south island wasn't Europeans but the unhinged cannibal ,Te Rauparaha on his raiding Kaiapoi.
    Stop the racist bs you are painting the European.
    My ancestors got on well with the Europeans and traded favorable with them and to this day never had a problem.

    • @ClintOrris
      @ClintOrris 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly. It's revisionist history. They just want to push anti-European propaganda

    • @fteeagle9446
      @fteeagle9446 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Fragile. Why the victim mentality lol

    • @fteeagle9446
      @fteeagle9446 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Then go do your own doco and don't watch these. This is their truth, just because it's not your. You might want to look up racism btw 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

    • @jimmurihiku8009
      @jimmurihiku8009 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fteeagle9446 bet you're from the north island, typical leftwing bludger that likes to play the racist card.

  • @promovidnz1754
    @promovidnz1754 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Maori knew that by murdering the colonial prisoners - they would be starting something bigger. They could have let them go in the really wanted peace - but they did not.

  • @mohammedbinladen4619
    @mohammedbinladen4619 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The lesson, don't rebel against the British crown. We are all his Majesty's subjects.

    • @malietoasamoa1301
      @malietoasamoa1301 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Probably got hundreds of races who disagree 💀

  • @wiseone8749
    @wiseone8749 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im from ngapuhi ki whangaroa watching this brings anger cause of what the colonizers did

    • @peterpan1435
      @peterpan1435 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Eventually colonisers from somewhere would arrive in this country.
      Thankfully it was the British.

    • @Tehui1974
      @Tehui1974 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@peterpan1435 Yep, the British treated the Indians. Aboriginals and Māori with so much respect.

  • @tuhoejohnson7005
    @tuhoejohnson7005 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This chick just telling her side of the war an not true facts.. talk to a old matua he'll give you the truth

    • @Londonman564
      @Londonman564 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ow bei stay off the electric cuz 😂

  • @rosstangoira
    @rosstangoira 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Get rid of the statues

  • @brendonthompson1691
    @brendonthompson1691 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bet thy still own top lands

  • @kiwiprouddavids724
    @kiwiprouddavids724 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Maori are not indigenous , before you put this forward as fact you should do some research

    • @echidna276
      @echidna276 ปีที่แล้ว

      Enlighten me.

    • @kiwiprouddavids724
      @kiwiprouddavids724 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@echidna276 the moreore, do some research dude the Maori came from Hawaii and they concurred the people that were already here that had come from Samoa and Tonga in a previous migration.

    • @echidna276
      @echidna276 ปีที่แล้ว

      Moriori are not indigenous to Aotearoa me Te Waipounamu, they are indigenous to Rekohu. Māori did not come from Hawai'i, they came from Hawaiki. Hawaiki being Tahiti, Rarotonga and the islands in that area. Moriori were not conquered by Māori in the early settlements, However Ngāti Mutunga and Ngāti Tama did raid and conquer them in the early 1800's. I ask you to do some research, dude.

    • @kiwiprouddavids724
      @kiwiprouddavids724 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@echidna276 sorry but your ring I lived on the island where Maori came from in NZ , where the Cano they traveled from Hawaii landed. You don't know what you are talking about

    • @echidna276
      @echidna276 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kiwiprouddavids724 no sorry, you're wrong. I know what I am talking about. What island did you live on where Māori came from? Are you claiming all Māori came from there?

  • @natashagoss9760
    @natashagoss9760 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sorry but none of that land was ever truly ngati toa land I wish they would say the truth when also so called speaking theirs

    • @echidna276
      @echidna276 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They only really "owned" the coasts. They never went far enough inland, as they didn't know it.

  • @geoffreycollis7041
    @geoffreycollis7041 ปีที่แล้ว

    From a Pakaha`s perspective, he had every right to exact revenge for his wife`s murder

  • @BigSnapper
    @BigSnapper ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All of the South Island Maori are white or fair-skinned today because the men were killed and the women were raped after this event. When are we gonna talk about that?

    • @mAKETU13
      @mAKETU13 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Colonial bulllshetere

  • @HarveySidney-r7o
    @HarveySidney-r7o 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Young Jeffrey Davis Sharon Hernandez Sharon

  • @jarradsutton8877
    @jarradsutton8877 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those pakeha dudes didn't even try to pronounce te roparaha properly W⚓️rs

  • @joelharding3312
    @joelharding3312 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Haha you except us the believe tero paraha peacfully removed survey pegs and peacefully burned down houses 😅😅 your docos are a joke.

  • @jacobtaniamclardy9687
    @jacobtaniamclardy9687 ปีที่แล้ว

    As always with these documentaries, there is never any support for the Maori owning land. They lived in small tribes, never farming or cultivating the lands. This documentary portrays the Maori as they were, wondering through the lands and killing those who they came across. From England to Europe, lands are farmed and cultivated, something that they did not see when they arrived in New Zealand. The main item the Maori had was weapons, the taiaha or the patu are among the few that they had.

    • @CalebRota-fe7gn
      @CalebRota-fe7gn ปีที่แล้ว

      so tell me how did they survive then

    • @echidna276
      @echidna276 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Māori lived off the land. The Wairau has multiple gardens and food storage sites across the whole valley. Most sites have now been flattened and used for housing, vineyards and so on. 'The main item' they had used was not taiaha or patu, they were more used for warfare, which didn't happen all the time. The common item was a sturdy stick, sharpened or not they used them for digging g a r d e n s, canals, storage pits, and other things. Not often used as a weapon but more as a multi use tool.
      It's the same thing with vikings. They weren't just blood hungry savages killing, r a ping and so on. Majority were farmers.

  • @anthonysherry2628
    @anthonysherry2628 ปีที่แล้ว

    A terrible episode in this countries history. The pompous arrogance of the europeans. Shameful.

  • @adielstephenson2929
    @adielstephenson2929 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fuckatoo?

  • @Judith-p3u
    @Judith-p3u 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    More division sponsored by the govt