If you play Teutonic Order, you can immediately do your mission to join the empire. This will interrupt the shadow kingdom event, causing the Teutonic Enters the HRE event. When they let you in, it adds 20 IA, and it will fast track the first reform to go off in the first few years. Then you leave the HRE after the reform passes. Defeat Polland and choose the HRE Diplo path and you will rejoin the HRE and flip tags to Prussia, proc the IA for joining the empire AGAIN. Shadow Kingdom will proc again but it can take 3 or 4 event cycles, giving you plenty of time to get elected before loosing Italy. Watching AI Austria abandon Italy really breaks my heart every time, So this little trick blew my mind.
Explain how you are able to cancel the Shadow Kingdom incident more than once? I understand once, maybe twice but how can you break the incident 3 or 4 times and still get elected before it happens?
You have to play as Teutonic Order. You have a mission that let's you join the empire, if you get 100 relations with Austria. Do that mission first, and make sure you have diplorep 2 so you can enter the empire without restrictions. When you fire the event, it can interrupt an ongoing imperial incident, because you are firing an event from a mission it interrupts the shadow kingdom. I have gotten to 1480 with no shadow kingdom, because it has to fire again and other imperial incidents start to occur. When you do this, you will cause the empire to gain 20 imperial authority, and the empire already starts with some so you get the first reform much earlier because you also stop shadow kingdom from causing a loss If you want to become Prussia you can then just leave the empire before you finish the mission to defeat poland. I'm not sure if it causes a loss of IA, but I always do this after the first reform. When you click the mission to defeat poland, pick the diplomatic path and you will instantly tag switch to Prussian monarchy and rejoin the empire, with a subjugate cb on Brandenburg. Easily done by around 1455, you can ally Hungary and either Denmark or Bohemia to beat Poland. You can easily win the first election, and usually with 2 reforms already passed, depending on things. Breaking the shadow kingdom and forming 1455 catholic Prussia is probably one of the best ways to play emporer, up there with Austria and Bohemia. Did I mention military tradition and +20 discipline? Op.
Just a reminder that you can core adjacent to your cores or subjects cores on the same continent. They do not in-fact need to own the cores. Yes this means we can now expand into Venice despite our main landmass being far away from him. Due to the Austrian cores.
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this just opened my mind too so much. If you combine this with the Burgundian inheritance you can boarder the empire as, Russia, Spain, Portugal, any christian nation that wants to can just insert themselves into the HRE at any time.
Oh Man, @Budgetmonk your a lifesaver. This is the missing piece in my Burgundypuzzle. I remember my last Burgundy run: I had Bohemia/Austria rivaling each other, so I Royal Married Bohemia, snagged a PU (as Burgundy you can't never ever have enough PUs IMO. Killed France together with Austria and one of the Hispanics, inherited the lowlands when the Burgundian inheritance fired and entered the Empire and then it stopped being fun. I had to wait 50 years till the Emperor finally died and it was superhard to beat Austria for the election. (I don't remember if transfer electorship was possible then). It was super frustrating because I had to watch how they did jack shit against the reformation. And when I finally got it, I felt super burned out the the Imperial authority was down the drain. Bohemia with most of France and the lowlands at their disposal should be able to beat the crap out of Austria and usurp the emperorship maybe even before the reformation even fires. Thanks again man!
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I'm doing a PayPal States run through right now. Austria must be thanking it's lucky stars theocracies can't steal his throne with how high my diplo rep is. It's a shame there's no alt history path for usurping the Imperial Crown, I'm about to pop the Kingdom of God and have all of Italy.
You can abuse the Byzantine government to farm Imperial Authority if you convert to Catholic, and become the emperor. Successful pretenders do become the new Holy Roman Emperor, and every succession spawns pretender rebels. :D
I've tried it with Bohemia, setup aligning almost perfectly with this one, however, first dow turned into a mild death war, Austria picked more land from separate-peacing allies, pushing them over 200% warscore, everyone slowly white-peaced out, and, after 7 years of war, 700+ worth of loans and 300k+ combined losses Austrian ruler croaked and I was elected emperor anyway! 🤣 This is a good strat, but you also have to be good at the game I guess 🤣🤣🤣
Thats super good strat but i have one question. Why you didn't take Slovakia region from Hungary for goldmine and one of your missions? For me it waste of AE reduction over time.
Hello BudgetMonk, I enjoy your content so far. How would you declare war on Austria without bordering them? Fabricating a claim would require you be neighbors. Asking as a Brandenburg player
I don’t know if you have tried that or not (you probably know this better than me monk). Maybe try to fully transfer the land to one country? That way they (might) peace out with a few provinces taken, especially like burgundy with militaristic rulers. I have tried similar thing on timurids/ajam war, which by fully transferring the land you occupied the others, wait for them to peace out, then take the land of the target country have over 100 war scores. And since you have call in like 8 nations, replicas this a few times without destroying Austria’s army seems doable.
The negative attitude modifier would phase out in time. I guess having austria as a vassal, being emperor, with close to no AE, and being able to reconquer austria for very little Ae in less then 10 years is worth the -100 opinion modifier which would go up to 0 in like 20 years if you have a relation advisor. Plus you can go up to 200 improving relations with dependencies. I might misunderstand what you mean with the rival penaltly, but I fail to see the pb here. Bonus massively outweight the loss. Also as he basically destroyed austria 3 times in row, you can see his PP going up. This is the advantage of having them as a rival i guess.
@@alvinchoquet5761 the problem is you could do all the same things without rivaling Austria. All rivaling does is increase spy network gain, and reduce diplo cost for unjustified demands.
Personally I would probably prefer to a catch and release with Austria as then I can still rival and gets those bonuses, but have a loyal vassal at the end. The extra AE is minimal, especially if you release from a low dev province
@@micahbonewell5994 I can see why you would eat and release austria, it would be better for relations/liberty desire. but understand that his relations will be +200 the moment you reconquest his land back, it doesnt make a relevant difference here imo. Also annexing any empire nation will incur a -20 relations hit with everyone else in the empire, so thats like another 20 ae, since positive relations can be thought of as a larger ae buffer.
@@micahbonewell5994 No, it also increases power projection, which is the main goal of the rival mechanics. Getting your PP above 50 provides you with 1 of each MP per month. This is vey valuable. But what do you mean exactly by the "rival penatly" ?
@@BudgetMonk OK so I played a bit yesterday and have to say that none of the big eu4 channels say anything about sieging Gallipoli. They simply hope the ottos are too busy in Anatolia, and if not, they simply steamroll your puny army. I found that getting around 24 mercs, including a company with an at least 2 siege general, and assaulting the fort as soon as the walls are breached is the only viable way, at least for a mediocre player like me.
If you play Teutonic Order, you can immediately do your mission to join the empire. This will interrupt the shadow kingdom event, causing the Teutonic Enters the HRE event. When they let you in, it adds 20 IA, and it will fast track the first reform to go off in the first few years. Then you leave the HRE after the reform passes. Defeat Polland and choose the HRE Diplo path and you will rejoin the HRE and flip tags to Prussia, proc the IA for joining the empire AGAIN. Shadow Kingdom will proc again but it can take 3 or 4 event cycles, giving you plenty of time to get elected before loosing Italy. Watching AI Austria abandon Italy really breaks my heart every time, So this little trick blew my mind.
Does the mission not have a "there is no imperial incident active" requirement?
Explain how you are able to cancel the Shadow Kingdom incident more than once? I understand once, maybe twice but how can you break the incident 3 or 4 times and still get elected before it happens?
Rein in italy is busted let the shadow kingdom event fire
Elaborate more on this please!! Seems very interesting
You have to play as Teutonic Order. You have a mission that let's you join the empire, if you get 100 relations with Austria. Do that mission first, and make sure you have diplorep 2 so you can enter the empire without restrictions. When you fire the event, it can interrupt an ongoing imperial incident, because you are firing an event from a mission it interrupts the shadow kingdom. I have gotten to 1480 with no shadow kingdom, because it has to fire again and other imperial incidents start to occur.
When you do this, you will cause the empire to gain 20 imperial authority, and the empire already starts with some so you get the first reform much earlier because you also stop shadow kingdom from causing a loss
If you want to become Prussia you can then just leave the empire before you finish the mission to defeat poland. I'm not sure if it causes a loss of IA, but I always do this after the first reform. When you click the mission to defeat poland, pick the diplomatic path and you will instantly tag switch to Prussian monarchy and rejoin the empire, with a subjugate cb on Brandenburg.
Easily done by around 1455, you can ally Hungary and either Denmark or Bohemia to beat Poland. You can easily win the first election, and usually with 2 reforms already passed, depending on things. Breaking the shadow kingdom and forming 1455 catholic Prussia is probably one of the best ways to play emporer, up there with Austria and Bohemia.
Did I mention military tradition and +20 discipline? Op.
IMAGINE starting up an Austria campaign and AI Bohemia just pulls this on you in February 1446
Haha
If you start as Austria and dont have 8 allies by then... I understand your predicament! But be normal and get allies!
Just a reminder that you can core adjacent to your cores or subjects cores on the same continent. They do not in-fact need to own the cores. Yes this means we can now expand into Venice despite our main landmass being far away from him. Due to the Austrian cores.
Yes, hello youtube, I have watched and enjoyed the entire video. I am not posting this just for the algorithm, nono, I watched the whole video and liked it, so I commented
The algorithm thanks you Soldier
this just opened my mind too so much. If you combine this with the Burgundian inheritance you can boarder the empire as, Russia, Spain, Portugal, any christian nation that wants to can just insert themselves into the HRE at any time.
Oh Man, @Budgetmonk your a lifesaver. This is the missing piece in my Burgundypuzzle.
I remember my last Burgundy run: I had Bohemia/Austria rivaling each other, so I Royal Married Bohemia, snagged a PU (as Burgundy you can't never ever have enough PUs IMO. Killed France together with Austria and one of the Hispanics, inherited the lowlands when the Burgundian inheritance fired and entered the Empire and then it stopped being fun.
I had to wait 50 years till the Emperor finally died and it was superhard to beat Austria for the election. (I don't remember if transfer electorship was possible then). It was super frustrating because I had to watch how they did jack shit against the reformation. And when I finally got it, I felt super burned out the the Imperial authority was down the drain.
Bohemia with most of France and the lowlands at their disposal should be able to beat the crap out of Austria and usurp the emperorship maybe even before the reformation even fires.
Thanks again man!
Yes, hello youtube, I too have watched and enjoyed the entire video. I am not posting this just for the algorithm, nono, I watched the whole video and liked it, so I commented
I'm doing a PayPal States run through right now. Austria must be thanking it's lucky stars theocracies can't steal his throne with how high my diplo rep is.
It's a shame there's no alt history path for usurping the Imperial Crown, I'm about to pop the Kingdom of God and have all of Italy.
PayPal States? Sounds like an alt history path to me.
@@DankusMemicus Damn phone autocorrect, lol.
You can abuse the Byzantine government to farm Imperial Authority if you convert to Catholic, and become the emperor. Successful pretenders do become the new Holy Roman Emperor, and every succession spawns pretender rebels. :D
I've tried it with Bohemia, setup aligning almost perfectly with this one, however, first dow turned into a mild death war, Austria picked more land from separate-peacing allies, pushing them over 200% warscore, everyone slowly white-peaced out, and, after 7 years of war, 700+ worth of loans and 300k+ combined losses Austrian ruler croaked and I was elected emperor anyway! 🤣 This is a good strat, but you also have to be good at the game I guess 🤣🤣🤣
You are a god amongst us normal eu4 peasants. I thank you for your knowledge, oh wise one.
I think I've got an idea for a _devious_ start as Brandenburg 👿
Thats super good strat but i have one question. Why you didn't take Slovakia region from Hungary for goldmine and one of your missions? For me it waste of AE reduction over time.
Hello BudgetMonk, I enjoy your content so far. How would you declare war on Austria without bordering them? Fabricating a claim would require you be neighbors. Asking as a Brandenburg player
I don’t know if you have tried that or not (you probably know this better than me monk). Maybe try to fully transfer the land to one country? That way they (might) peace out with a few provinces taken, especially like burgundy with militaristic rulers. I have tried similar thing on timurids/ajam war, which by fully transferring the land you occupied the others, wait for them to peace out, then take the land of the target country have over 100 war scores. And since you have call in like 8 nations, replicas this a few times without destroying Austria’s army seems doable.
it doesn't work anymore, they uncon to leader and won't take any offer from others.
Great content, as always.
Great content.
Keep the good work.
I'm going to try this one out king 👑
How did austria lose its cores in what burgundy took
would this be possible as brandenburg?
of course. Like I said i did it as an OPM Bregenz
Can you do this with Castille? I find it very hard getting emperorship when you are away from the Empire...
It is about being elected. The simple answer is yes. The hard part is you need to get the most votes.
Neat
This is genius
Wonderful video.
If you want to vassalize Austria, would it be better to not rival him? As now you're going to have a rival penalty after vassalizing him.
The negative attitude modifier would phase out in time. I guess having austria as a vassal, being emperor, with close to no AE, and being able to reconquer austria for very little Ae in less then 10 years is worth the -100 opinion modifier which would go up to 0 in like 20 years if you have a relation advisor. Plus you can go up to 200 improving relations with dependencies. I might misunderstand what you mean with the rival penaltly, but I fail to see the pb here. Bonus massively outweight the loss. Also as he basically destroyed austria 3 times in row, you can see his PP going up. This is the advantage of having them as a rival i guess.
@@alvinchoquet5761 the problem is you could do all the same things without rivaling Austria. All rivaling does is increase spy network gain, and reduce diplo cost for unjustified demands.
Personally I would probably prefer to a catch and release with Austria as then I can still rival and gets those bonuses, but have a loyal vassal at the end. The extra AE is minimal, especially if you release from a low dev province
@@micahbonewell5994 I can see why you would eat and release austria, it would be better for relations/liberty desire. but understand that his relations will be +200 the moment you reconquest his land back, it doesnt make a relevant difference here imo. Also annexing any empire nation will incur a -20 relations hit with everyone else in the empire, so thats like another 20 ae, since positive relations can be thought of as a larger ae buffer.
@@micahbonewell5994 No, it also increases power projection, which is the main goal of the rival mechanics. Getting your PP above 50 provides you with 1 of each MP per month. This is vey valuable.
But what do you mean exactly by the "rival penatly" ?
interesting. hadn't thought of that.
Am I missing something? Trying this myself and I cannot call most of the allies cause Im missing favors
Take rep from clergy estate. "religious diplomats, use rep advisor. Promise land to the Germans.
Genius.
You could also make austria change their capital so it costs even less ae
Brilliant
Need a new byz guide
bump
As you wish.
@@BudgetMonk OK so I played a bit yesterday and have to say that none of the big eu4 channels say anything about sieging Gallipoli. They simply hope the ottos are too busy in Anatolia, and if not, they simply steamroll your puny army. I found that getting around 24 mercs, including a company with an at least 2 siege general, and assaulting the fort as soon as the walls are breached is the only viable way, at least for a mediocre player like me.
Nice one
Paying Austria money to participate in a war that means their annihilation. EU4 diplo mechanics at their finest 😂
Haha
hello
The thumbnail made me think burgundy inherited bohemia somehow