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Epic vs. Ikon vs. Mountain Collective vs. Indy: Which Should You Choose?

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ส.ค. 2024
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    An extremely detailed comparison between the Epic, Ikon, Mountain Collective, and Indy Pass products for the 2022-23 season, covering:
    0:00 Intro
    1:04 Resort Offerings (Epic and Ikon)
    5:20 Resort Offerings (Mountain Collective and Indy)
    8:14 Pricing (Epic and Ikon)
    12:16 Pricing (Mountain Collective and Indy)
    14:31 Renewal Discounts
    15:49 Reservation Policies
    16:50 Deferral Policies
    18:06 Final Summary

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  • @thomaskl234
    @thomaskl234 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Truly excellent video. I’ve noticed that Ikon generally offers resorts with tougher, and more interesting terrain than epic resorts with some notable exceptions. Personally, that factors into my decision quite a bit.
    Thank you for addressing staffing shortages at epic resorts

  • @mattcj8873
    @mattcj8873 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Epic has the best Veteran discount out of all of them. My passes were literally half price of the Ikon passes. That plays a big part in my choice when buying for a family of 4.

    • @thomasgreen5592
      @thomasgreen5592 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have passes for the low

    • @thomasgreen5592
      @thomasgreen5592 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yoo

    • @captainredmanz
      @captainredmanz ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea ikon doesn’t offer veterans a discount only to retired military and active duty.

    • @mickyosully4592
      @mickyosully4592 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thomasgreen5592 u a scammer

  • @TandAwanderings
    @TandAwanderings 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thanks for the great information on the different passes.One thing to consider when deciding what one to purchase is while the Icon and Epic are great passes you are sending your money to huge facelsss corporations. With the Indy pass you are supporting independantly owned (some of them even family owned resorts for generations). Of course depending on where you live is a factor, but here in New England so many great resorts are on it i never get bored and visit ski areas i would have never went to otherewise.

  • @andrewdiamond2697
    @andrewdiamond2697 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Fundamentally, if you can only ski on weekends (2 days at a time) and have a traditional work week with 1-2 weeks of vacation/PTO, then Indy+ or MC is a good fit.
    If you can take entire weeks at a time off work, and have a big travel budget, Ikon or Epic is a better fit (though Epic in New England/Upper Midwest has a good argument for the weekender)
    I'm sticking with Ikon Full Pass. The extra cost helps keep the crowds just a bit thinner and more manageable, while providing the revenue to properly staff up the mountains, IMHO.
    I did learn that Epic is a great deal for Veterans, so I might just do that one of these years. Solid video with really complete information.

    • @GuitarGuy650
      @GuitarGuy650 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Epic is pretty useless in N.E.

  • @nacho-man1063
    @nacho-man1063 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You always do a great job on your videos.

  • @ivanfuentes1035
    @ivanfuentes1035 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I would have gotten the mountain collective except I live in so-cal, hurts that mammoth is gone :(

  • @aadams3995
    @aadams3995 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Could you please do an updated video reviewing the epic and icon pass for the 2024-2025 ski season?

  • @thatbeefstew9117
    @thatbeefstew9117 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I'm sorry this video was just confusing as you jumped back and forth, it could've been better if you explained each one by it's self then compared them to each other.

  • @casereagles7896
    @casereagles7896 ปีที่แล้ว

    Resorts Epic uses: Breck, Beaver Creek, Northstar, Heavenly, Vail, Keystone, Okemo, Stevens Pass, Poali Peaks, Whitetail, Telluride, Kirkwood, Whistler-Blackcomb, Afton Alps, Mt Brighton, Park City, Crested Butte, Mount Snow
    Resorts Ikon owns: Alta, Snowbird, Palisades, Mammoth Mountain, Taos, Winter Park, Copper, Steamboat, Aspen-Snowmass, Eldora, Jackson Hole, Sun Valley, Crystal Mountain, Solitude, Snowbasin, Brighton, Buttermilk, Killington, Mt Bachelor, Deer Valley, Big Sky, Aspen Highlands.
    Resorts Indy owns, Mt Hood Snowbowl, Mt Shasta, Granby Ranch, Ski Cooper, Irwin, Powderhorn, Echo Mountain, Mt Rose, Pomerelle, Kelly Canyon, Bristol, Brundrage, Antelope Butte, White Pine, Snow King.

  • @richbarrett
    @richbarrett ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for being so thorough!

  • @kkjjqrysdgadff7782
    @kkjjqrysdgadff7782 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Be cautious with the Epic pass, a number of the local resorts on Epic are in really poor shape. Steven's Pass is a prime example, vs Crystal on Ikon. Steven's rarely had more than 50% of lifts open last year.

  • @arlokkkk
    @arlokkkk ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What’s the best pass to buy for who live in the eastcoast for the 23/24 season? I used the north east epic pass one which was great but I’m trying to visit different mountains for the next season. Is it better to hold on and buy it on summer time of just buy it now? Thanks!

    • @bsmaven
      @bsmaven 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Epic Local. I used it in Northeast but also went to Whistler for a week

    • @arlokkkk
      @arlokkkk 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bsmaven good to know, thanks!

  • @A-Shitty-Snowboarder
    @A-Shitty-Snowboarder 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great explanation!!!

  • @sheepdawg6946
    @sheepdawg6946 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have had the IKON pass from the first day they offered it. Now I am confused. Too many offerings.

    • @Kirbey
      @Kirbey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Indy pass is the only pass that was created post Ikon?

    • @markmassoglia
      @markmassoglia ปีที่แล้ว

      I live in the Midwest so I get pass at my local hill, Granite Peak, WI and then the Indy Pass. The Indy Pass is a great deal with plenty of different areas in all parts of the country. I've skied many of the Epic Pass mountains already, it's not attractive to me. The IKON has many places I'd like to ski in the future.

  • @AlanLamb11
    @AlanLamb11 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Epic pass has slightly more restrictions for military passes other than resorts like Telluride not being included. The Epic military pass has no buddy passes and only 5 friends & family. Ikon has less blackout days for military but also cuts buddy passes.
    Mountain collective is cheaper for renewals and if you pick one up at outdoor sports expo and is probably the best deal for people flying in for a few days at different places over several years.

    • @mattcj8873
      @mattcj8873 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My Epic passes have 6 buddy passes for each of my family. I just bought them last week.

    • @AlanLamb11
      @AlanLamb11 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mattcj8873 epic military? If so that is great and different from last year.

    • @thomasgreen5592
      @thomasgreen5592 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yool

  • @CR-xx3ur
    @CR-xx3ur 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Telluride footage👀👀 are we getting a video review soon?

  • @davidday2373
    @davidday2373 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    IKON Base👍
    Blackout dates should transfer to Late Season dates. Snowbird is not busy at all right now.

    • @jdbsoccer100
      @jdbsoccer100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Smart man! Those blackout days are weekends you would want to avoid the mountains anyways

    • @thomasgreen5592
      @thomasgreen5592 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have passes for the low

  • @DOMCOM40
    @DOMCOM40 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got the epic because the military discount is insane.

  • @simpsons721
    @simpsons721 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dont get Epic because that is what I have

  • @ldxk
    @ldxk ปีที่แล้ว

    Ikon base pass has too many holiday blackouts than Epic local pass which makes them almost incomparable if you are planning on ski vacation around those holidays. For a MA resident, Epic local pass gives me nearly same access to destination ski resorts in NH/VT area during major holidays as Ikon full pass does yet it is half priced.

    • @ldxk
      @ldxk ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Plus, Ikon pass doesn't provide any local ski resort that I can visit on a regular weekend day but Epic has 2 in NH. This means if I buy a Ikon base pass I can't use it for holiday vacations or for regular day trips. I know this is not a common problem but to MA residents only, still Ikon should really consider making Ikon base pass useful to this ski-popular region.

    • @bsmaven
      @bsmaven 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Stratton, Killington , Loon, and others on Ikon

    • @ldxk
      @ldxk 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bsmaven all have holiday balckouts for Ikon base. if you want to take kids out for a ski vacation in school breaks, you have to get Ikon full pass. but if you go with Epic, local pass is more than enough.

    • @bsmaven
      @bsmaven 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ldxk Epic has blackouts for some resorts also. But I was responding to your claim that Ikon doesn't have any local resorts to visit on a regular weekend but Epic has 2 in NH. Wrong

    • @ldxk
      @ldxk 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bsmaven No they are not local to me and other Boston area skiers because they are out of 2-hr driving range. Epic has 2 mountains in 1.5-hr driving range of my home although they are not as big as Ikon resorts. As for blackouts, there is only one Epic mountain in NE area backed out for Epic local pass but how about Ikon base? Every one backed out. Do you really think there is a competition on this regard?

  • @exdemocrat9038
    @exdemocrat9038 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you live in Colorado I'd choose Icon but if you don't I'd choose epic.

    • @GuitarGuy650
      @GuitarGuy650 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think the decision is a bit more complex then whether or not you live in Colorado 😅

    • @jconroy102
      @jconroy102 ปีที่แล้ว

      Epic is better in Colorado than ikon

  • @GuitarGuy650
    @GuitarGuy650 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Indy Pass is for people who enjoy skiing, but don't want to pay almost a grand for a recreational seasonal sport

    • @scarlol1800
      @scarlol1800 ปีที่แล้ว

      or its for ppl who like bad mountains

  • @PhaseSkater
    @PhaseSkater 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Indy pass is the best. Then mountain collective

  • @user-ek1to4gq3h
    @user-ek1to4gq3h 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    VAIL Does however have better flagships then the other passes even Ikon

  • @kosycat1
    @kosycat1 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the second year i have all 3 passes

  • @je5406
    @je5406 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn reservations!!!!!

  • @danbennetts1678
    @danbennetts1678 ปีที่แล้ว

    Powder Alliance!

  • @gaberobison680
    @gaberobison680 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Epic Pass is fucking awful. They offer a Pacific Northwest pass that has 1 resort in the actual PNW

  • @Puffsmoke1011
    @Puffsmoke1011 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wrong!!!!!!!

  • @gatord0g
    @gatord0g 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Don’t buy any of them. Multi-resort passes are ruining skiing and I’ll judge the hell out of you if you’re on bachelor and I see you with your ikon pass on your helmet

    • @polarsled4617
      @polarsled4617 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Lol, we are scared 😀

    • @gatord0g
      @gatord0g 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@polarsled4617 wait so you do keep your ikon pass on your goggle strap?

    • @ArcFixer
      @ArcFixer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Agreed. iKon and Epic passes are known by informed skiers as "Screw the Locals" passes. They suck.

    • @kellylinstra1135
      @kellylinstra1135 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A much better option is getting a season pass at a powder alliance resort, making one place your home mountain and then using your 2 or 3 free days at the other mountains for trips

    • @thomasgreen5592
      @thomasgreen5592 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have passes for the low