Olympiad Question | Learn to find the value of ax^5+by^5 | Math Olympiad Preparation

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  • @davidfromstow
    @davidfromstow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Yet another brilliant question (that left me totally bamboozled), followed by your customary elegant solution. Many thanks

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      No worries, David. We are all lifelong learners. That's what makes our life exciting and meaningful!
      Thank you for your nice feedback! Cheers!
      You are awesome. Keep it up 😀
      Love and prayers from the USA!

  • @srividhyamoorthy761
    @srividhyamoorthy761 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Forgot to tell, sooo many steps explained with full passion and calm voice with full steps

  • @ralkadde
    @ralkadde 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I appreciate your tasks very much and it is a pleasure to follow them. Often I lack the ability to recognize certain patterns.

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you enjoyed it!
      Thank you for your feedback! Cheers!
      You are awesome. Keep it up 😀
      No wonder I reveal all kind of question for my audience that require various techniques...
      Love and prayers from the USA!

  • @alanyuen1677
    @alanyuen1677 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is higher than University level. Well done sir. I made A’s in University, but still find it hard.

  • @nirupamasingh2948
    @nirupamasingh2948 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The patience with which you explain each step is just amazing. Thank you Sir

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So nice of you, Niru dear
      Glad you enjoyed it!
      Thank you for your feedback! Cheers!
      You are the best. Keep it up 😀
      Love and prayers from the USA!

    • @nirupamasingh2948
      @nirupamasingh2948 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PreMath 🙏🙏

    • @srividhyamoorthy761
      @srividhyamoorthy761 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nirupamasingh2948 hi again

    • @nirupamasingh2948
      @nirupamasingh2948 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@srividhyamoorthy761 Continue with your hard work. You will excel

    • @srividhyamoorthy761
      @srividhyamoorthy761 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nirupamasingh2948 are you a college professor ?just asking

  • @navaneethvijay1315
    @navaneethvijay1315 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When I first saw the question
    It became complicated
    But you made it easy and simple
    Thank you for your brilliant question and cool answers ❤❤

  • @ramanivenkata3161
    @ramanivenkata3161 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic.
    It doesn't occur easily to bring in a multiplying factor ( x+y ) .
    Great thinking..

  • @aniketgupta4897
    @aniketgupta4897 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    sir , u are legend of mathematics.

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So nice of you, Gupta dear
      Thank you for your feedback! Cheers!
      You are awesome. Keep it up. 👍
      Love and prayers from the USA! 😀

  • @shrikrishnagokhale3557
    @shrikrishnagokhale3557 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good,I liked it very much.Thanks.

  • @TimBoulette
    @TimBoulette 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    How did you come up with the idea of multiplying by (X + Y) in the first place?

    • @shakilahamed1786
      @shakilahamed1786 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My qsn also!

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Dear Tim, if we scan this problem, we can see the powers of X and Y are incremented by 1 as we move downward. This gives us a good clue to multiply by (X+Y)! Moreover, these slick moves require consistent practice and continued exposure to such problems. No wonder I reveal all kind of question for my audience that require various techniques...
      Thanks for asking. Cheers!
      You are awesome. Keep it up 😀

    • @michaelkwabenaboadi5588
      @michaelkwabenaboadi5588 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think x+y is a factor of the left expression

  • @srividhyamoorthy761
    @srividhyamoorthy761 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice and clearly explainrd, a crore subscribers cannot compensate for your lessons

  • @anatoliy3323
    @anatoliy3323 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for an interesting task, sir! My congratulation on the 1st May Holiday! God bless you and I wish all the best to you!

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, it's May the 1st!
      So nice of you, Anatoliy
      Thank you for your wonderful feedback! Cheers!
      You are awesome. Keep it up 😀
      Love and prayers from the USA! Peace!

  • @alster724
    @alster724 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I knew the tricky pattern all along.
    Glad I was able to see it coming.

  • @mathfreak5702
    @mathfreak5702 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Finally after 30 minutes, I solved it my own but with different method
    Btw thanks for this beautiful question ❤️❤️

    • @pomlesty1348
      @pomlesty1348 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Please share your method with us

    • @mathfreak5702
      @mathfreak5702 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@pomlesty1348 it is difficult explain it here but I can tell you in short
      I just multiplied the 4th equation by (x+y) and I got ax⁵ and by⁵ with some other components which were deeply situated in other equation and that took me about 20-25 minutes.
      Hope it helped.

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well done!
      You're welcome!
      Glad you enjoyed it!
      Thank you for your feedback! Cheers!
      You are awesome. Keep it up 😀
      Love and prayers from the USA!

  • @KAvi_YA666
    @KAvi_YA666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for video. Good luck sir!!!

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You're welcome!
      Glad you enjoyed it!
      Thank you for your feedback! Cheers!
      You are awesome. Keep it up 😀
      Love and prayers from the USA!

  • @mva286
    @mva286 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done. Three thumbs up!

  • @mengpheapMEF
    @mengpheapMEF 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You're welcome!
      Thank you for your feedback! Cheers!
      You are awesome, Meng. Keep it up 😀
      Love and prayers from the USA!

  • @xor-bits
    @xor-bits 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi, amazing video again! I love these videos but could it be possible to make these with a dark background instead of the white?

  • @NadiehFan
    @NadiehFan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Let
    (1) t(n) = axⁿ + byⁿ
    then we have
    (2) t(n)·(x+y) = t(n+1) + xy·t(n−1)
    so
    (3) t(n+1) = (x+y)·t(n) − xy·t(n−1)
    Subtituting n = 2 and n = 3 in (3) and using the known values t(1) = 5, t(2) = 10, t(3) = 50, t(4) = 130 gives
    (4a) 50 = 10(x+y) − 5xy
    (4b) 130 = 50(x+y) − 10xy
    This is a linear system in x+y and xy with the solution x+y = 1, xy = −8. Substituting these values in (3) gives
    (5) t(n+1) = t(n) + 8·t(n−1)
    so we have a second-order linear homogeneous recurrence with constant coefficients. Substituting n = 4 in (5) and using t(4) = 130, t(3) = 50 gives t(5) = 130 + 8·50 = 530.

  • @luigipirandello5919
    @luigipirandello5919 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great, thank you Sir .

  • @BenZineAe
    @BenZineAe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sir are you a great teacher 👩‍🏫‍

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So nice of you
      Thank you for your feedback! Cheers!
      You are awesome. Keep it up 😀
      Love and prayers from the USA!

  • @susanalabbe2433
    @susanalabbe2433 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ottimo professore

  • @karunakarburugu7033
    @karunakarburugu7033 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the only hard thing is how to evaluate that factor x+y will determine the solution, how to find out that?

  • @SuperYoonHo
    @SuperYoonHo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow nice the perfect solution

  • @sberacatalin2250
    @sberacatalin2250 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bravo! Frumos! Respect! 👏🤗🥇👀🇦🇩

  • @johnbrennan3372
    @johnbrennan3372 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting.

  • @sanjaykale6235
    @sanjaykale6235 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So nice of you, Sanjay
      Thank you for your feedback! Cheers!
      You are awesome. Keep it up 😀

  • @davisnganga6266
    @davisnganga6266 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant

  • @SuperYoonHo
    @SuperYoonHo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    u r awesome! keep it up you r the best

  • @MaybePookie
    @MaybePookie 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tysm :')

  • @crustyoldfart
    @crustyoldfart 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It came as something of surprise that neither {x,y} nor {a,b} were evaluated.
    It is possible to do so which makes for an interesting exercise.
    The result is :
    {x,y} = (1/2 + sqrt(33)/2, 1/2 - sqrt(33)/2 ), (1/2 - sqrt(33)/2, 1/2 + sqrt(33)/2)
    {a,b} = (1.6446,0.2303), (0.2303,1.6446)

  • @javierpo4321
    @javierpo4321 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ¡Fantástico!

  • @242math
    @242math 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    this was very well explained, thanks so much for sharing

  • @elmarhoppieland
    @elmarhoppieland 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do the differences between the equations (5,40,80,400) mean anything?

    • @NadiehFan
      @NadiehFan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes. As I explain in a different comment on this video, if we define
      (1) t(n) = axⁿ + byⁿ
      then t(n) satisfies
      (2) t(n+1) = t(n) + 8·t(n−1)
      so we have a second-order linear homogeneous recurrence with constant coefficients. To answer your question: we have
      (3) t(n+1) − t(n) = 8·t(n−1)
      In English: the difference between two consecutive values is equal to eight times the value preceding these two values.

  • @SuperYoonHo
    @SuperYoonHo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome!

  • @mahalakshmiganapathy6455
    @mahalakshmiganapathy6455 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice explanation 🙂

  • @pranavamali05
    @pranavamali05 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thnku

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You're welcome!
      Glad you enjoyed it!
      Thank you for your feedback! Cheers!
      You are awesome. Keep it up 😀
      Love and prayers from the USA!

  • @elmurazbsirov7617
    @elmurazbsirov7617 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Əla həll etdiniz.Təşəkkürlər.Bakıdan salamlar.

  • @arnavgoel5129
    @arnavgoel5129 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Done👍
    First view

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fantastic!
      Thank you for your feedback! Cheers!
      You are awesome, Goel. Keep it up 😀

  • @chanvannak3591
    @chanvannak3591 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very nice 👍

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you enjoyed it!
      Thank you for your feedback! Cheers!
      You are awesome, Chan. Keep it up 😀

  • @satturmuruges
    @satturmuruges 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    BRO, GOOD pRESENTATION. wELLCOME.

  • @bosorot
    @bosorot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Easy way is to generalized equation . Simple algerbra here is (ax^n + by^n) * ( x+y) = ax^n+1 + by^n+1 + xy (ax^n-1 + by^n-1) . This will make (2) * (x+y) = (3) + xy (1) and (3)* (x+y) =(4) +xy (2) . Then replace (2) with 10 , (3) with 50 , (4) with 130 . you will get x+y and xy of 1 and -8 . then put it to (4)*(x+y) = (5) + xy (3) . then answer is value of (5)

  • @stevenplat2350
    @stevenplat2350 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's genius

  • @marklevin3236
    @marklevin3236 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    First we need to prove that there exist a,b,x,y that would satisfy given equations. Then calculations are correct.

  • @와우-m1y
    @와우-m1y 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    asnwer=60 my try hard study

  • @monsieurmohamedlila1051
    @monsieurmohamedlila1051 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    احسنت

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      لطف منك يا أخي العزيز محمد.
      شكرا لك على ملاحظاتك! هتافات!
      انت رائع 😀
      حب ودعاء من امريكا!

  • @田村博志-z8y
    @田村博志-z8y 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I write here for the first time. Concretely, we have solutions
    a = ( 165 - 75√33 )/528,
    b = ( 165 + 75√33 )/528,
    x = ( 1 - √33 )/2,
    y = ( 1 + √33 )/2.
    Of course, we can replace ( a, x ) with ( b, y ).

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Super job!
      Thank you for your feedback! Cheers!
      You are awesome. Keep it up 😀
      Love and prayers from the USA!

  • @percussion44
    @percussion44 ปีที่แล้ว

    Petty point, but this always bugs me.
    The double distribution "rainbow method" is F.O.I.L firstxfirst outerxouter innerxinner lastxlast
    The word FOIL describes the complete process.
    Cheers

  • @mikemarriam
    @mikemarriam 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting mathematical gymnastics. How is this applied practically?

  • @beautifulworld6163
    @beautifulworld6163 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ❤️

  • @eetigerfish
    @eetigerfish 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    步驟拉太多,變數變換有夠多餘,只需要解出xy=-8就可以了

  • @राजनगोंगल
    @राजनगोंगल 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    👍👍👍🙏🙏🙏👏👏👏

  • @guilloda2011
    @guilloda2011 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do we need that in our life? I believe that we need to teacher real situation to the alumni….🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @SuperYoonHo
    @SuperYoonHo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks