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Fun fact: Kinect cameras are now using in tons of medical imaging devices. Turns out that it’s really good at 3D measurements when the subject is NOT moving.
The sad thing is: It is unironically awesome for those "hacked" random projects. You can do SO many creative things with a Kinect it is sad to see it never found love for its intended purpose and therefore was discontinued. On a hardware level the device is astonishing and a true "hacker's"/maker's dream.
The Kinect technology started its life outside the games department, so it's only fitting it gets most used outside games applications. I still remember buying it on launch day. I was so excited about it. At least I got a few gaming sessions out of it with friends before never touching it again.
What I've heard from developers was this thing actually worked exactly as advertised which is why it's still used for so many engineering products over the years and to this day. The colossal failure wasn't the hardware, but the horrible dev tools. Microsoft aparently made it a nightmare to make the sensors work as intended and developers inevitably had to take shortcuts to release games on time. The reason you see sensors on instagram and snapchat filters working so well now isn't because the tech improved. It's actually using the same tech that was in the kinect from the start. They just took the time to properly write the code.
That's not true. Kinect didn't work well even with Microsoft's own apps. Also saying that the tech is the same is like saying we currently have the tech for self driving cars because a future actually working version should be able to work with just a few cameras for input.
@@KenMathis1 The self-driving cars analogy isn't awful, but it's just a different problem entirely. The fact is that there are a lot more factors that go into driving than a simple action in a kinect game or instagram filter. Those simpler examples worked just fine when coded properly.
@@wumbol0gy871 You can't say, _"I've heard from developers was this thing actually worked exactly as advertised"_ and _"Developers had to use Microsoft's dev tools when making their own apps, as well, and were just as crunched for time"._ Those are mutually exclusive. The fact is that Kinect NEVER worked as advertised. That is why Microsoft had to fake demos of it. Even the improved Kinect 2 with Xbox One never worked like MS advertised the Kinect 1 would work.
Say what you will about Kinect. Dance Central was a blast and one of the last times my house was full of kinda cool people having fun with a gaming console.
I loved Dance Central so much. I would regularly play with my friends in college. Sometimes we would even reserve study rooms with big tvs to play together in an open space.
There's only one reason why the Kinect exists, and that's DANCE CENTRAL. I spent part of my first ever freelance paycheck on buying DC 2 and 3 because THEY'RE SO GOOD. I loved Dance dance revolution and dance central was the closest amazing dance game that there is. I don't even like just dance, dance central was so precise you had to sweat your ass off just to complete a song
I have all three dance central games. They are incredible. I used to do like 5 songs everyday for exercise and was exhausted. Also both seasons of kinects sports are fun.
I actually loved the Kinect and am sad it was discontinued. Games that used it well such as Dance Central, Kinect Sports and Fruit Ninja were a blast to play with casual friends. If they had more realistic marketing and didn’t try to force it down everyone’s throats, I think it could have worked out as a nice option for the (admittedly few) people who enjoyed the games.
It’s not one of the best lol. It’s one of the cheapest cause the sensor would otherwise wind up in the trash. I know that for a fact cause we got tons of these sensor as a donation to our university. That’s why they being used all over the world even to this day. Pfff best ones…yeah sure…best one my ass!
The Kinect is actually one of the best 3D spatial measurement cameras. We use them extensively in prototyping for engineering. They are really good cameras. The tech isn't great for video games, but it's absolutely amazing and dirt cheap for spatial tracking.
The tech is fine for video games. MS just lost their talented team that started Kinect on the 360 and hired a completely inexperienced new set of employees to make the software for the xbone Kinect. That's why my 360 Kinect still works great and is fun to use, while my xbone Kinect is still sitting at the GameStop I immediately traded my console in at for a PS4 in January 2014.
The most impactful thing that came from Kinect might be that it gave a bunch of devs experiences that helped VR grow in recent years. Fun fact, the Zune guy is actually a project lead at oculus now. Had Kinect not died a horrible death, VR might be in a much worse spot today.
I'm not sure about that, VR use a lot of different technologies, only some of them use camera tracking, and it was something that already existed before kinect, mostly in the animation industry. sure Kinect was a trailblazer in a way, nowadays you can do what the kinect was trying to do with your phone without even needing stereoscopic camera, but I'm pretty sure the technology would be fine without the kinect, maybe it would just be a bit slower to come to popularity because of a lack of a commercial push.
VR? Yeah, maybe in a decade or so. Even today, VR has negligible market share. I ain't holding my breath, and the Kinect scam isn't worth it for the consumer. I guess XBOne requiring Kinect to be always plugged in will pave the way for VR to do the same? 😁
@@sepg5084 Unlike the Kinect, VR is actually growing and has a strong core pillar of passionate indie developers with some turned into proper game studios willing to experiment and find out what works. AAA are dipping their toes into VR and the results have been kinda mixed so far.
To be fair the Kinect 2.0 was actualy pretty good, I was addicted to Dance Central on that thing and navigating the Xbox one's ui with motion controls actually worked pretty well.
I actually had a Kinect and a Wii, and I can confirm I looked like a fool playing on the Kinect more. Thank you Girlfriend Reviews for unlocking that memory.
Microsoft was a victim of its own success with the Kinect. They sold so many in such a short time during the 360 era, that they came to the conclusion that they had a legitimate hit on their hands. Combined with real data showing that people had been using their 360 on their living room TV to watch all kinds of media on disc and through apps (I watched tons of Netflix on mine, plus sports on the ESPN app, and so on). The timing was perfect with the Xbox One in development, and the pressure from products like Apple TV (which seemed at the time like a threat to take over the living room media experience - by this time MS had become really paranoid about Apple’s resurgence and their own string of failures in mobile and other products), and MS really thought it had a trend to jump in front of. All the data supported them. And then they went and tried to pitch this whole vision at E3 to a room full of people who only cared about games, and they set it on fire. Wrong message to the wrong audience. If they had stuck to a gaming-centric message to that crowd, and then quietly marketed the media capabilities to a broader, more casual audience, they might have had a much better time of it. Playstation did exactly that and, well..
@@IronWish Yes, exactly. Wrong message to the wrong audience. Show some D4 concept art to Blizzcon, to let the PC gamers know you're working on it and everyone is happy (if not satisfied :). Show the gacha mobile Diablo at an Asian games show, and they would soak it up. But mistake one for the other and you get combustion.
Even then I'm not sure all of the focus on media capability was a good idea considering that most people prefer to use smartphones rather than PiP and also Smart TVs were popping up that didn't require you buy a $500 console to play Netflix. And they didn't even get the TV functionality right from a technical perspective. On 50Hz programs like you'd see in Europe the TV signal looked more choppy when passed through an Xbox. It was literally a downgrade to just watching regular TV
At the launch of XBox One, Microsoft was announcing predictions of 1 billion unit sales. Which would have been (at the time) be more than all console sales in history combined, going back to the original Pong system. I think it's safe to say they were a bit optimistic. My take was that they thought that, in Kinect, they had managed to create the next touchscreen--that is, the Kinect interface would do to the TV market what touchscreens did to phones. In marketing terms, this is technically known as "huffing your own farts."
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Kinect works excellent with the dance games. Dance Central and Just Dance. A smoke machine, a disco ball, a subwoofer, and booze is all it took for me to throw wildly successful Meetup Group parties. Non gamer women loved it. Hence local guys loved it, and the brave ones would join in on the dancing. It also helped that I lived near a seasonal ski resort and that there were a lot of strippers in the area. I also had a full Rock Band setup to switch over to as the evening wore on. Recently passed the whole setup to a friend who has a couple kids interested in dance. They absolutely love it and have learned a lot of early 00 dance moves.
As I'm reading it from all the comments is that the Kinect walked or crawled more like so that VR, medical applications of kinetic sensors and DANCE CENTRAL could run and I think that's brilliant. I remember giving Xbox a chance during the kinect phase and then I sprinted back to my playstation safe space within a month. It was fun though, for a week.
There’s a current product called Azure Kinect that built on the original. It’s used in enterprise/edu/gov/medical. It was a huge leap in spatial awareness and body tracking. Maybe it was actually ahead of its time?
Bruh I had so much fun with family and friends on Kinect sports. And don’t even get me started on kinectimals as a kid. I had my bear and we were best buds.
I had a Kinect and I had a blast with Kinect Sports, Dance Central, Just Dance and Your Fitness Evolved, I honestly don't understand all the hate the kinect gets
I work electronics at a thrift store. We get our fair share of kinects. But we don't have games that work with it. I looked up the value and stuck a $15 tag on all of them. I didn't even know what they did until now. Thank you for the history lesson.
The one thing I really miss about the kinect is the video controls. Not the motion controls, but voice controls ("xbox pause", "xbox play") worked in every video app. So you don't have to turn on your controller, hit play, then turn your controller off to save battery life
Hey, I WATCHED MOVIES ON MY ZUNE! As a wee lad I specifically downloaded and formatted a finely curated batch of movies into the correct video format and loaded my Zune to the max and boy did I feel cool as hell on my summer European trip riding trains while watching The Bourne Identity and you can never take away my fond Zune memories!
so true about the parents thing. My mom hadnt touched a video game since Tetris and my stepdad never played anything yet they used the Wii they got me for getting good grades more than I did.
Matt! At the same time you got it, I also went down with a case of trigger finger (probably because Hollow Knight on Switch). I tried a lot of stuff but I think what got me a lot of relief was using a TENS-machine. One that uses electric impulses to stimulate your muscles. I hook up both my hands 🙌 and let it vibrate the muscles around thumb joints and I feel it helped a lot! I’m in the middle of creating my own gaming content and so I was pretty down because of the set back but I think this helped me to get back at it :) Hope it possibly helps you as well!
FWIW, if you're a hobbyist nerd the Kinect is a dream. It likely inspired a handful of augmented reality programmers. You can get the libraries for this and easily program things with 3D object/hooman tracking. I mean. I didn't. But you can.
My wife actually liked the voice feature. “Xbox, Turn on Netflix” “Xbox Pause”. Some kid got funny and changed their name to “Xbox Off”. The. When that person would troll others and yell “XBOX OFF” their console would turn off.
The Kinect was amazing. It suffered the reality that all niche peripherals do: games designed around them only function if the peripheral continues to be supported and lock out anyone without the peripheral. It was an amazing piece of hardware and made some of the best games in their genres (Just Dance pales in comparison to Dance Central). It's a shame about the realities of hardware manufacturing and the limitations of game design given a niche control method, but there was a lot of potential there and I'm sad to see it die.
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Yeah. They tried to remedy that by making it mandatory with every Xbox One. The best selling peripheral could push hardware sales and everyone would have one so developers wouldn't have a problem supporting it. Unfortunately, the casual ship had sailed by late 2013. Even the Wii had stagnated.
The ONE thing I will give this dumb system: Buying the Kinect and the first three Dance Central games was still less expensive than buying a treadmill, and more engaging. That said, it's not like dancing games were exclusive to Microsoft. This was just how it worked for *me*.
I actually work in VR development and as many have said, the Kinect is used a lot simply as a 3D camera for research and development of VR technologies.
Every time I watch through the Paranormal Activity movies I get to that one that was a big product placement for the Kinect and its like, such an awkward time capsule.
The Kinect was actually used a lot during surgeries in operating rooms to check charts and whatnot so that the doctors wouldn't have to leave and scrub up again. The Kinect was super useful, just as long as it wasn't connected to an Xbox.
It is really interesting how Nintendo hit a home run with the Wii’s motion controls, stumbled with Wii U, and Switch’s motion controls became lukewarm. Xbox tried to Kinect but failed; whilst PlayStation had a wiimote copy too, and decided to innovate further with PS VR
Ironically the Kinect lives on, not as a motion gaming device, but for things other than gaming. I've seen a couple of military drones(specifically land drones) use this, ghost hunting tools for motion detection, 3d scanning for static objects(though kinect 2 has been used for moving objects), motion capture in smaller indie dev studios. The Kinect is actually a great piece of tech and can be a more affordable alternative to similar devices that will usually cost thousands if not hundred thousands more to get and install. Obviously it will not perform on par or better than ones built specifically for motion capture, but for the price and a bit of tweaking, it can be amazing.
In my mind difference between wii sports and Kinect is as simple as: a year or two of laying on bunks in the barracks, lazily playing Wii bowling with burger King on your stomach- and then that one time we tried Kinect drunk and still hated it that one time.
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Kinect probably would have lived on as a popular accessory for those who enjoyed dancing, fitness and party games. When they tried to force every Xbox One owner to have one though, that was too far. The Kinect 2 was a huge improvement over the Kinect 1 so it's a shame many never got to try it.
The mistake was assuming that motion controls were anything but a fad. Everyone wanted a Wii, then all the new people that tried it got bored of it after a few weeks once the novelty wore off. Then the casual gamers all switched to smartphone games with much lower barriers to entry and way higher profitability.
The Kinect had some fantastic video chat features. You could walk around your living room and the camera would follow you. It would have been a handyl video chat solution at the start of the pandemic.
I loved my kinect. Legit useful for changing programs, switching channels, switching games, turning on and off the TV when you walk in the door, changing volume, and more.. never used it for playing games tho lol
My niece was about five years old and she played this party game on my Kinect. The floor was lava or something. She saw herself step into the lava, catch fire and disappear into a pile of ashes and she was INCONSOLABLE!! I guess she thought she really burned up. I mean, she saw it happen, right? 🤣
I had some good fun playing Kinect Sports with my family, though not nearly as much as Wii Sports. With the Xbox One, I used it exclusively for the following voice controls: “Xbox on, Xbox record that, Xbox off”
The only time I've played with a Kinect, it was fun. But only because: -It was on a mall and it requires some coins to be used, meaning I didn't have to buy the darn thing -It's only Just Dance, so there's no need to be too serious about the positioning -It's in the middle on the walkway between the arcade and the food stalls, so we can just screw around there during college lunch breaks.
They could have done so many cooler things with the connect. Like, imagine a stealth game where you have to actually hide from the enemies on screen. Or a Jurassic Park game with a T-Rex, and you have to freeze whenever he looks towards you.
I had two back-to-back foot surgeries when I was in high school and I remember wanting to play the dance and jumping kinect games with my family but I couldn't so instead I played Fable: Journey because it only uses hands/arms so you can play while sitting. Honestly? 10/10 gaming experience truly a good memory thank u kinect
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Dance Central is incredible and it was a huge hit at any house party I had. It was also extremely motivating as a workout routine. I would have a kinect again just for that one game alone.
as everyone has already mentioned, the v2 Kinect is actually a pretty great depth-sensing camera. I used it on a couple different projects in grad school. To be clear, the built-in pose-estimation (aka determining the movement of your arms and legs) was *dogshit* which is why it didn't really work as a "controller". But if you need a 3D point cloud of a stationary object, it works great.
Kinnect is huge with dancing games, because it's the most accurate input method, and doesn't require you to hold a controller or a phone or something else with a gyro sensor the whole time. Just Dance 2023 just was announced by Ubisoft, and they are finally dropping Kinnect support (even though the product is EOL since like 2015}, and it's a huge thing with the fan base.
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Fun fact: Kinect cameras are now using in tons of medical imaging devices. Turns out that it’s really good at 3D measurements when the subject is NOT moving.
Lol
Its also decent for affordable motion capture too, especially the Xbox One version.
used in *some devices
That reminds me of when the GBA was the cheapest medical computer for something or another in hospitals.
yeah I started giggling when I looked up next to a CT scanner during my first internship and saw one lol
I think iv seen engineers repurpose the kinetic senors for random projects more than iv seen them used to play xbox games 🤣
Sounds about right.
The sad thing is: It is unironically awesome for those "hacked" random projects. You can do SO many creative things with a Kinect it is sad to see it never found love for its intended purpose and therefore was discontinued. On a hardware level the device is astonishing and a true "hacker's"/maker's dream.
The Kinect technology started its life outside the games department, so it's only fitting it gets most used outside games applications.
I still remember buying it on launch day. I was so excited about it. At least I got a few gaming sessions out of it with friends before never touching it again.
Can confirm, I did some funky UX experimentation and hardware hacking with the camera's.
Absolutely the case. I know I have for sure seen more Kinects attached to robots than to xBox's.
What I've heard from developers was this thing actually worked exactly as advertised which is why it's still used for so many engineering products over the years and to this day. The colossal failure wasn't the hardware, but the horrible dev tools. Microsoft aparently made it a nightmare to make the sensors work as intended and developers inevitably had to take shortcuts to release games on time.
The reason you see sensors on instagram and snapchat filters working so well now isn't because the tech improved. It's actually using the same tech that was in the kinect from the start. They just took the time to properly write the code.
That's sad
That's not true. Kinect didn't work well even with Microsoft's own apps. Also saying that the tech is the same is like saying we currently have the tech for self driving cars because a future actually working version should be able to work with just a few cameras for input.
@@KenMathis1 Developers had to use Microsoft's dev tools when making their own apps, as well, and were just as crunched for time.
@@KenMathis1 The self-driving cars analogy isn't awful, but it's just a different problem entirely. The fact is that there are a lot more factors that go into driving than a simple action in a kinect game or instagram filter. Those simpler examples worked just fine when coded properly.
@@wumbol0gy871 You can't say, _"I've heard from developers was this thing actually worked exactly as advertised"_ and _"Developers had to use Microsoft's dev tools when making their own apps, as well, and were just as crunched for time"._
Those are mutually exclusive. The fact is that Kinect NEVER worked as advertised. That is why Microsoft had to fake demos of it. Even the improved Kinect 2 with Xbox One never worked like MS advertised the Kinect 1 would work.
Say what you will about Kinect. Dance Central was a blast and one of the last times my house was full of kinda cool people having fun with a gaming console.
I loved Dance Central so much. I would regularly play with my friends in college. Sometimes we would even reserve study rooms with big tvs to play together in an open space.
It was one of the main reasons i stayed with Xbox for X1 and that kinect experience was fuckin shite
I play Dance Central regularly, tons of fun and a workout!
I liked the idea of Dance Central but found the coaches too judgemental. Just Dance was more forgiving of my bad flailing.
That's so sad, with so many games you could have been playing all these years with your friends.
There's only one reason why the Kinect exists, and that's DANCE CENTRAL. I spent part of my first ever freelance paycheck on buying DC 2 and 3 because THEY'RE SO GOOD. I loved Dance dance revolution and dance central was the closest amazing dance game that there is. I don't even like just dance, dance central was so precise you had to sweat your ass off just to complete a song
Dance Central was the BEST!
Dance Central is a workout, and absolutely agree that’s the only viable reason anyone would still want a Kinect.
Dance Central is the best game made for the Kinect!
Only reason. Too band dance central with the 1 was beyond trash.
I have all three dance central games. They are incredible. I used to do like 5 songs everyday for exercise and was exhausted. Also both seasons of kinects sports are fun.
didn't expect GFR to rip the Kinect this morning, but I'm not complaining
I actually loved the Kinect and am sad it was discontinued. Games that used it well such as Dance Central, Kinect Sports and Fruit Ninja were a blast to play with casual friends. If they had more realistic marketing and didn’t try to force it down everyone’s throats, I think it could have worked out as a nice option for the (admittedly few) people who enjoyed the games.
Agreed! The marketing is really want did it for me
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Not a Kinect fan but they should have kept it as a peripheral Not included with Xbox one with Kinect 2.0
@@Pedro_The_Neco it was one of the better Kinect experiences, I have to say.
@@GirlfriendReviews ah yes the marketing really want did it for me too
Weirdly Kinect still is one of the best camera for motion tracking for computer science research project.
It’s not one of the best lol. It’s one of the cheapest cause the sensor would otherwise wind up in the trash. I know that for a fact cause we got tons of these sensor as a donation to our university. That’s why they being used all over the world even to this day. Pfff best ones…yeah sure…best one my ass!
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Microsoft still sells a variant of the Kinect called the Azure Kinect.
@@NeoShameMan Apple actual even bought the team that created the depth-sensory system. So, Iphone kinda uses technology from Microsoft.
The Kinect is actually one of the best 3D spatial measurement cameras. We use them extensively in prototyping for engineering. They are really good cameras. The tech isn't great for video games, but it's absolutely amazing and dirt cheap for spatial tracking.
The tech is fine for video games. MS just lost their talented team that started Kinect on the 360 and hired a completely inexperienced new set of employees to make the software for the xbone Kinect. That's why my 360 Kinect still works great and is fun to use, while my xbone Kinect is still sitting at the GameStop I immediately traded my console in at for a PS4 in January 2014.
The Kinect was more useful for software engineers' senior projects than it was for gaming.
The kinect V2 is actually still used in research fields, as the hardware and middleware in it is damn good 🤣
The most impactful thing that came from Kinect might be that it gave a bunch of devs experiences that helped VR grow in recent years.
Fun fact, the Zune guy is actually a project lead at oculus now. Had Kinect not died a horrible death, VR might be in a much worse spot today.
I'm not sure about that, VR use a lot of different technologies, only some of them use camera tracking, and it was something that already existed before kinect, mostly in the animation industry. sure Kinect was a trailblazer in a way, nowadays you can do what the kinect was trying to do with your phone without even needing stereoscopic camera, but I'm pretty sure the technology would be fine without the kinect, maybe it would just be a bit slower to come to popularity because of a lack of a commercial push.
VR? Yeah, maybe in a decade or so. Even today, VR has negligible market share. I ain't holding my breath, and the Kinect scam isn't worth it for the consumer.
I guess XBOne requiring Kinect to be always plugged in will pave the way for VR to do the same? 😁
@@danilooliveira6580 kinect was just a scam, a lame attempt to copy nintendo.
@@sepg5084 Unlike the Kinect, VR is actually growing and has a strong core pillar of passionate indie developers with some turned into proper game studios willing to experiment and find out what works. AAA are dipping their toes into VR and the results have been kinda mixed so far.
@@Ozzianman VR will fail, same as Kinect and 3D before it.
To be fair the Kinect 2.0 was actualy pretty good, I was addicted to Dance Central on that thing and navigating the Xbox one's ui with motion controls actually worked pretty well.
Marky Mark's look when he realized he was being filmed is a truly timeless classic.
I actually had a Kinect and a Wii, and I can confirm I looked like a fool playing on the Kinect more. Thank you Girlfriend Reviews for unlocking that memory.
Fun fact: Kinect was used in Paranormal Activity 4 as a horror story device.
Dance Central made me think I could actually dance. Then I went to a club and learned the sad truth.
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Microsoft was a victim of its own success with the Kinect. They sold so many in such a short time during the 360 era, that they came to the conclusion that they had a legitimate hit on their hands. Combined with real data showing that people had been using their 360 on their living room TV to watch all kinds of media on disc and through apps (I watched tons of Netflix on mine, plus sports on the ESPN app, and so on). The timing was perfect with the Xbox One in development, and the pressure from products like Apple TV (which seemed at the time like a threat to take over the living room media experience - by this time MS had become really paranoid about Apple’s resurgence and their own string of failures in mobile and other products), and MS really thought it had a trend to jump in front of. All the data supported them. And then they went and tried to pitch this whole vision at E3 to a room full of people who only cared about games, and they set it on fire. Wrong message to the wrong audience. If they had stuck to a gaming-centric message to that crowd, and then quietly marketed the media capabilities to a broader, more casual audience, they might have had a much better time of it. Playstation did exactly that and, well..
Ah, yes. Classic move, currently known as a "Do you guys not have phones?" moment.
@@IronWish Yes, exactly. Wrong message to the wrong audience. Show some D4 concept art to Blizzcon, to let the PC gamers know you're working on it and everyone is happy (if not satisfied :). Show the gacha mobile Diablo at an Asian games show, and they would soak it up. But mistake one for the other and you get combustion.
Even then I'm not sure all of the focus on media capability was a good idea considering that most people prefer to use smartphones rather than PiP and also Smart TVs were popping up that didn't require you buy a $500 console to play Netflix.
And they didn't even get the TV functionality right from a technical perspective. On 50Hz programs like you'd see in Europe the TV signal looked more choppy when passed through an Xbox. It was literally a downgrade to just watching regular TV
@@teehundeart eh i have smart tv but I'm still using the xbox as a media center
At the launch of XBox One, Microsoft was announcing predictions of 1 billion unit sales. Which would have been (at the time) be more than all console sales in history combined, going back to the original Pong system. I think it's safe to say they were a bit optimistic.
My take was that they thought that, in Kinect, they had managed to create the next touchscreen--that is, the Kinect interface would do to the TV market what touchscreens did to phones. In marketing terms, this is technically known as "huffing your own farts."
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Kinect works excellent with the dance games. Dance Central and Just Dance. A smoke machine, a disco ball, a subwoofer, and booze is all it took for me to throw wildly successful Meetup Group parties. Non gamer women loved it. Hence local guys loved it, and the brave ones would join in on the dancing. It also helped that I lived near a seasonal ski resort and that there were a lot of strippers in the area. I also had a full Rock Band setup to switch over to as the evening wore on.
Recently passed the whole setup to a friend who has a couple kids interested in dance. They absolutely love it and have learned a lot of early 00 dance moves.
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As I'm reading it from all the comments is that the Kinect walked or crawled more like so that VR, medical applications of kinetic sensors and DANCE CENTRAL could run and I think that's brilliant.
I remember giving Xbox a chance during the kinect phase and then I sprinted back to my playstation safe space within a month. It was fun though, for a week.
There’s a current product called Azure Kinect that built on the original. It’s used in enterprise/edu/gov/medical. It was a huge leap in spatial awareness and body tracking. Maybe it was actually ahead of its time?
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Bruh I had so much fun with family and friends on Kinect sports. And don’t even get me started on kinectimals as a kid. I had my bear and we were best buds.
It is a desperate day indeed when a gamer is reduced to gaming on a kinect. Get well soon buddy
I had a Kinect and I had a blast with Kinect Sports, Dance Central, Just Dance and Your Fitness Evolved, I honestly don't understand all the hate the kinect gets
I work electronics at a thrift store. We get our fair share of kinects. But we don't have games that work with it. I looked up the value and stuck a $15 tag on all of them. I didn't even know what they did until now. Thank you for the history lesson.
Kinect games were going for silly money during the pandemic lockdowns. They went from worthless to some of the most in demand preowned games.
The Kinect is a wonderful device and it did work almost perfectly for me. I had done several projects with it and was surprised how good it works
The one thing I really miss about the kinect is the video controls. Not the motion controls, but voice controls ("xbox pause", "xbox play") worked in every video app. So you don't have to turn on your controller, hit play, then turn your controller off to save battery life
Hey, I WATCHED MOVIES ON MY ZUNE! As a wee lad I specifically downloaded and formatted a finely curated batch of movies into the correct video format and loaded my Zune to the max and boy did I feel cool as hell on my summer European trip riding trains while watching The Bourne Identity and you can never take away my fond Zune memories!
so true about the parents thing. My mom hadnt touched a video game since Tetris and my stepdad never played anything yet they used the Wii they got me for getting good grades more than I did.
The technology behind kinect v2 was amazing. But xbox didnt know what to do with it. Its great for some interactive art projects :)
Matt really be having me rolling😂😂 between the edits and commentary he has me laughing hard
3:56 Dog just walks past like nothing's weird
"The humans are at it again. Whatever."
it's so hackable, I've seen dozens of interactive art made with Kinects and for that, I will eternally
Fun fact the company that developed the tech in the Kinect was bought by apple and is now used for Face ID
Sure the kinect wasn’t the best but I did have a lot of fun playing it with my siblings.
Matt!
At the same time you got it, I also went down with a case of trigger finger (probably because Hollow Knight on Switch).
I tried a lot of stuff but I think what got me a lot of relief was using a TENS-machine.
One that uses electric impulses to stimulate your muscles.
I hook up both my hands 🙌 and let it vibrate the muscles around thumb joints and I feel it helped a lot!
I’m in the middle of creating my own gaming content and so I was pretty down because of the set back but I think this helped me to get back at it :)
Hope it possibly helps you as well!
Thanks for the tip!
I also have trigger finger that came out of nowhere. Getting old blows.
that is a common treatment in physiotherapy
FWIW, if you're a hobbyist nerd the Kinect is a dream. It likely inspired a handful of augmented reality programmers. You can get the libraries for this and easily program things with 3D object/hooman tracking.
I mean. I didn't. But you can.
This marketing actually consumed me as a kid. I skipped school on launch day. Pretty sure I never touched it after a week 🤣
Loved the voice command feature for dragon shouts in skyrim and Dance central was pretty rad.
If sitting through the ad read means more clips of Tato then I will continue to do so
My wife actually liked the voice feature. “Xbox, Turn on Netflix” “Xbox Pause”. Some kid got funny and changed their name to “Xbox Off”. The. When that person would troll others and yell “XBOX OFF” their console would turn off.
Hmm, dunno, I got Kinect a year ago and enjoyed the hell out of it, great experiences ))
OMG the car exploding literally killed me from laughing.
The Kinect was amazing. It suffered the reality that all niche peripherals do: games designed around them only function if the peripheral continues to be supported and lock out anyone without the peripheral. It was an amazing piece of hardware and made some of the best games in their genres (Just Dance pales in comparison to Dance Central). It's a shame about the realities of hardware manufacturing and the limitations of game design given a niche control method, but there was a lot of potential there and I'm sad to see it die.
Hello, I am from Microsoft. I want to thank you for continuing to uphold our agreement, and to tell you that your check is in the mail. Please continue to endorse the shit products we make.
@@bluehammer1245 the Wii suffers the same problem, so I hope you think Nintendo also makes shit products
Yeah. They tried to remedy that by making it mandatory with every Xbox One. The best selling peripheral could push hardware sales and everyone would have one so developers wouldn't have a problem supporting it.
Unfortunately, the casual ship had sailed by late 2013. Even the Wii had stagnated.
The ONE thing I will give this dumb system: Buying the Kinect and the first three Dance Central games was still less expensive than buying a treadmill, and more engaging.
That said, it's not like dancing games were exclusive to Microsoft. This was just how it worked for *me*.
It amazes me how this channel's joke and memes are always so on point.
I actually work in VR development and as many have said, the Kinect is used a lot simply as a 3D camera for research and development of VR technologies.
I remember this one game from it called “gunstringer”, was actually quite charming
Every time I watch through the Paranormal Activity movies I get to that one that was a big product placement for the Kinect and its like, such an awkward time capsule.
The Kinect was actually used a lot during surgeries in operating rooms to check charts and whatnot so that the doctors wouldn't have to leave and scrub up again. The Kinect was super useful, just as long as it wasn't connected to an Xbox.
Listen, it may have been a scam, but it's the only way I could convince my parents to get me an Xbox. The plan worked to perfection.
Nah the Kinect was dope af I tried so hard to keep that shit alive 🤣
It is really interesting how Nintendo hit a home run with the Wii’s motion controls, stumbled with Wii U, and Switch’s motion controls became lukewarm.
Xbox tried to Kinect but failed; whilst PlayStation had a wiimote copy too, and decided to innovate further with PS VR
3:56 i love the dogs coming in to investigate their unconscious bodies 😂😂😂
I have zero regrets about "missing" the Kinect era...
Ironically the Kinect lives on, not as a motion gaming device, but for things other than gaming. I've seen a couple of military drones(specifically land drones) use this, ghost hunting tools for motion detection, 3d scanning for static objects(though kinect 2 has been used for moving objects), motion capture in smaller indie dev studios. The Kinect is actually a great piece of tech and can be a more affordable alternative to similar devices that will usually cost thousands if not hundred thousands more to get and install. Obviously it will not perform on par or better than ones built specifically for motion capture, but for the price and a bit of tweaking, it can be amazing.
Fun fact about the Wii, the guy that came up with the technology first took it to Microsoft then Sony and was turned down by both
Try PSVR! ASTROBOT RESCUE MISSION!!
Incredible experience!!
The Kinect fitness games helped me loss weight. At least that sales pitch worked. 🤷
In my mind difference between wii sports and Kinect is as simple as: a year or two of laying on bunks in the barracks, lazily playing Wii bowling with burger King on your stomach- and then that one time we tried Kinect drunk and still hated it that one time.
That subtle TPB reference was excellent. "French fries and onion rings. You know what I don't hear, Randy? I don't hear a heart dawg."
Whoever's reading this, i pray that whatever you're going through gets better and whatever you're struggling with or worrying about is going to be fine and that everyone has a fantastic day! Amen
The Kinect is worth it just so you can have a dance battle with the Emperor from Star Wars.
And yet, I still play Kinect bowling to this day!!!
Pee and poo
5:53 that has to be the most high quality suprised pikachu I've ever seen.
The observatory in salt lake has like 20 kinects for cool science demonstrations
Kinect probably would have lived on as a popular accessory for those who enjoyed dancing, fitness and party games. When they tried to force every Xbox One owner to have one though, that was too far. The Kinect 2 was a huge improvement over the Kinect 1 so it's a shame many never got to try it.
The Kinect gave birth to one of the best arcade games out there, Dance Evolution.
The mistake was assuming that motion controls were anything but a fad. Everyone wanted a Wii, then all the new people that tried it got bored of it after a few weeks once the novelty wore off. Then the casual gamers all switched to smartphone games with much lower barriers to entry and way higher profitability.
The Kinect had some fantastic video chat features. You could walk around your living room and the camera would follow you.
It would have been a handyl video chat solution at the start of the pandemic.
Now you're gonna hit me with the "long time ago" bruh? don't do a fuck'n "Bleeeh!"
~Poetry
I loved my kinect. Legit useful for changing programs, switching channels, switching games, turning on and off the TV when you walk in the door, changing volume, and more.. never used it for playing games tho lol
say what you will, but the star wars kinect game created many a sibling conflict and childhood memory for me
That Godfellas-style speech was gold 😂
Kinect: "It really makes you *FEEL* like a jackass swinging your arms."
My niece was about five years old and she played this party game on my Kinect. The floor was lava or something. She saw herself step into the lava, catch fire and disappear into a pile of ashes and she was INCONSOLABLE!!
I guess she thought she really burned up. I mean, she saw it happen, right? 🤣
“chicken, cola fizz, mustard and relish coagulating together”. I see a TPB reference, I like it
The best part of the Kinect: I had it stored in my basement when it flooded and got some insurance money.
I had some good fun playing Kinect Sports with my family, though not nearly as much as Wii Sports.
With the Xbox One, I used it exclusively for the following voice controls: “Xbox on, Xbox record that, Xbox off”
3:55 doggo strolling in killed me🤣
The only time I've played with a Kinect, it was fun. But only because:
-It was on a mall and it requires some coins to be used, meaning I didn't have to buy the darn thing
-It's only Just Dance, so there's no need to be too serious about the positioning
-It's in the middle on the walkway between the arcade and the food stalls, so we can just screw around there during college lunch breaks.
They could have done so many cooler things with the connect. Like, imagine a stealth game where you have to actually hide from the enemies on screen. Or a Jurassic Park game with a T-Rex, and you have to freeze whenever he looks towards you.
How did this video end and nobody dance to the insanity that is the “I’m Han Solo” Kinect song
The Dance Central games and Nike+ Kinect Trainer were still the bomb though.
I had two back-to-back foot surgeries when I was in high school and I remember wanting to play the dance and jumping kinect games with my family but I couldn't so instead I played Fable: Journey because it only uses hands/arms so you can play while sitting. Honestly? 10/10 gaming experience truly a good memory thank u kinect
another banger
also: "HelloFresh literally taught me how to cook" same!!!! still really glad i clicked the last/first time i saw your blurb for it, been ~freshin it up~ ever since :D
Dance Central is incredible and it was a huge hit at any house party I had. It was also extremely motivating as a workout routine. I would have a kinect again just for that one game alone.
The best thing about the Kinect was when the Ghost Adventures crew started using it. At least then its glitches are spooky ghosts.
as everyone has already mentioned, the v2 Kinect is actually a pretty great depth-sensing camera. I used it on a couple different projects in grad school. To be clear, the built-in pose-estimation (aka determining the movement of your arms and legs) was *dogshit* which is why it didn't really work as a "controller". But if you need a 3D point cloud of a stationary object, it works great.
Matt is radiating such Dad energy, and I am here for it.
2:50 "Today you can see how Zune is transformed by the magic of Kinect." Talk about ideas that did not age well!
Kinect may not have been good for gaming, but it's done a TON for mocap, medical imaging, and a ton of engineering stuff in general
Kinnect is huge with dancing games, because it's the most accurate input method, and doesn't require you to hold a controller or a phone or something else with a gyro sensor the whole time. Just Dance 2023 just was announced by Ubisoft, and they are finally dropping Kinnect support (even though the product is EOL since like 2015}, and it's a huge thing with the fan base.
My favorite thing about Kinect was getting to yell at my Xbox and it had to listen