Is Derrick Rose A Hall Of Famer? | 9/26/24

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  • Dan Patrick and the Danettes react to former NBA MVP Derrick Rose announcing his retirement and discuss whether or not he will make the Basketball Hall of Fame

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  • @MrJ1S
    @MrJ1S วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    Being the youngest mvp gets you in. Tmac is in the hall...for what? 0 mvps.. 0 rookie of year...just 1 more all nba 1st team than Rose....WITH 0 PLAYOFF VICTORIES....till he rode the Spurs bench
    Plus the basketball HOF is way easier to get in than MLB//NFL

    • @MyronZhao
      @MyronZhao วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      T-Mac had 2 scoring titles, 13 points in 33 seconds, global impact (partly due to being Yao's teammate). Rose peak wasn't long enough, he had 2 good seasons and the rest of the time he was an injury prone role player

    • @MrJ1S
      @MrJ1S วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @MyronZhao winning mvp means u had a great season not just good. Tmac also blew a 3-1 series lead. Rose didn't need another player to help his impact internationally or otherwise
      1 mvp and actually winning more than 0 playoffs series>>2 scoring titles
      Game winning playoff buzzer beater>>>13 pts in 20 seconds to win a reg season game

    • @beastmry
      @beastmry วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      We're going by 1st team now? 😂
      Rose had a higher peak but let's not get carried away. He got injured and didn't have a long enough career for a hof

    • @MrJ1S
      @MrJ1S วันที่ผ่านมา

      @beastmry i guess so since tmac got in with his 2.
      Every nba mvp has got in. Rose will be no different. Just not 1st ballot probably.

    • @TheIcemanthomas
      @TheIcemanthomas วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@MrJ1Severy mvp that has gotten it played longer or accomplished more. And mvp is NOT a safe bet for the hof by itself. And mvp is ONE season.

  • @iloveyoumadhuri
    @iloveyoumadhuri วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I loved watching D-Rose in Chicago and New York as a Chicagoan, but I say no. Injuries hurt his case, and, even when healthy, he fell short of reaching 15,000 career points and 5,000 assists -- point guard career benchmarks.
    Sadly, not enough All-NBA First Team selections -- just one and nothing lower in ranks -- for consistent greatness. Having 3 is a miracle. He was entertaining though.

    • @MyronZhao
      @MyronZhao วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I think he might have made it if he had some 6th man awards, but even as a role player he kept getting injured

    • @busup377
      @busup377 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Could you explain how Vince and grant get in

    • @MyronZhao
      @MyronZhao 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@busup377 Vince greatest dunker of all time, only player so far to play in 4 different decades and play 22 seasons. Was a franchise player for over half his career. Has multiple franchise and nba records.

  • @kalikrome1543
    @kalikrome1543 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Who cares? It's already diluted to the hall of very good.

    • @Fernando_616
      @Fernando_616 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      It's not an NBA HOF though, it's the Naismith Basketball HOF. That's why you see a bunch of different guys. They also take into account everything you've done, from prep to pros

    • @markosekulic119
      @markosekulic119 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      If its that diluted, why aren't you in basketball hall of fame

    • @penkima4923
      @penkima4923 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@Fernando_616 "It's not an NBA HOF though, it's the Naismith Basketball HOF. That's why you see a bunch of different guys. They also take into account everything you've done, from prep to pros"
      There's players like Tim Hardaway in the Hall. I don't think his college career warrants him a position in the Hall. His NBA career definitely shouldn't warrant a position. He was a bench player for the 2000 olympic team. I don't think that gold medal automatically should warrant a position.
      Then there's players like Tracy McGrady in the Hall, who don't have olympic medals, and didn't play college ball at all.
      I think the emphasis should be on the success at the highest level, which mostly means the NBA.

  • @emersondemathias
    @emersondemathias วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    NO. He is not.
    BUT Chicago Bulls must put his jersey in the rafters.

    • @ShawnReed-ny1hd
      @ShawnReed-ny1hd 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      If tmac is he Definitely should

  • @lofromdabronx6959
    @lofromdabronx6959 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Yes Dan..so is Grant..B.Roy...if TMac isnt in TMac..and whoever else in the past wouldve been great before inquires..i mean great not good

  • @dam1rr
    @dam1rr 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Who cares about HOF. His mvp year alone was something that most of these hof's total careers together can't match. The impact he made and the fan base he has. Derrick is a Chicago legend. He is Chicago. Youngest MVP and no one could've f with him. What he expreienced with his body and all, his perseverance and mental strength. Waaay above any HOF debate. He won in life.

  • @Hiluxtaco
    @Hiluxtaco 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    They let anyone in the Basketball Hall of Fame. Because of that, they will probably put him in..

  • @tlorevolver75
    @tlorevolver75 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Not even a question! 💯

  • @S1lvermoon
    @S1lvermoon วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I’m guessing he’ll eventually get in
    But he won’t be a first ballot hofer probably gonna get in when the pool to choose from is a bit thin as there have been in the past where an yeah he’s alright got in as there’s not much other option

  • @vincentmartinez7815
    @vincentmartinez7815 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    TELL ME HE’S NOT WORTHY OF THE HALL OF FAME. Best point guard of all time. I love Jordan but damn Rose is the man.. MUCH LOVE ROSE. D ROSE NATION. 💯😎

    • @penkima4923
      @penkima4923 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      A big bunch of players in the basketball Hall of Fame weren't worthy of the induction. And D-Rose definitely isn't worthy. The induction policy should be more strict.
      Best point guard of all time? He wasn't the best point guard in the league, when he won the MVP.

    • @MrWhitesoxfalife
      @MrWhitesoxfalife 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      What!!! Bro you maybe you were sleep during his MVP season the fact even called it out himself during preseason of that year@@penkima4923

  • @aznsensation44
    @aznsensation44 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Very very borderline. He has nothing else except his MVP. No scoring titles, no Finals appearances, nothing. Even Bill Walton a guy who won MVP and didn't play much, at least had 2 rings and a FMVP too.

  • @andrewmyers3520
    @andrewmyers3520 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    He should make it. His peak was so high.

    • @TheIcemanthomas
      @TheIcemanthomas วันที่ผ่านมา

      Not really. It was really good. But statistically it wasn’t anything special

    • @andrewmyers3520
      @andrewmyers3520 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@TheIcemanthomas you’re trippin

    • @penkima4923
      @penkima4923 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@andrewmyers3520 That peak lasted for one season. Rose got one all-NBA selection for his career. It's not called The Seasonal Hall of Fame. Rose has no business getting in.

  • @jaredgarrison333
    @jaredgarrison333 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Hell no

  • @wsanch111
    @wsanch111 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Sorey but he was BETTER than Ja Morant

  • @joe_higachi
    @joe_higachi วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Mario chalmers with that shot against Memphis 😮

    • @Wyndamn
      @Wyndamn 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      And Memphis not being able to make free throws.

  • @bwatkins10va
    @bwatkins10va 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    NO!!!! Not even close!!!

  • @legittaco3870
    @legittaco3870 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Stop it! He’s a no brainer HoFer. Yao Ming - never close to MVP caliber - is in HoF. DRose was the most exciting player in the league when Kobe, Lebron, DWade, Shaq, etc. were in their prime. He’s like the Gale Sayers of the NBA, ironically both from the Chi. They both shined so brightly in those early years before suffering devastating injuries. You can’t deny their greatness.
    Dan Patrick can be very shady. Since when does vacated college wins influence a players NBA - or any pro league - legacy? He also said some garbage about Caitlyn Clark should be considered wnba mvp over Aja Wilson bc CC brought more fans to their league. For him to be around as long as he has, his views sometimes are asinine. Maybe he spews these controversial views for views, clicks, hot takes. I guess that’s what they all are after these days.

    • @penkima4923
      @penkima4923 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      "Stop it! He’s a no brainer HoFer. Yao Ming - never close to MVP caliber - is in HoF."
      Yao made an all-NBA team five times. Rose made one. And it's a more difficult journey for somebody who's chinese to make it.
      "DRose was the most exciting player in the league when Kobe, Lebron, DWade, Shaq, etc. were in their prime."
      Being exciting sure shouldn't get you to the Hall.
      "You can’t deny their greatness."
      Rose played one great season in his career. That's quite literally not great.

    • @ShawnReed-ny1hd
      @ShawnReed-ny1hd 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Shaq was not in his prime in 2008 on

    • @legend1884
      @legend1884 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Yao Ming made it cause he is from China do you know how many people look up to Yao there?

  • @NedPetrie
    @NedPetrie ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    He probably will eventually. The Basketball Hall of Fame has always given a lot of credit to peak talent, especially if the short peak is due to injury (though they have come around even in cases where the career decline was due to drugs or other personality/character reasons). So it won't be immediately, but I wouldn't be surprised if it happens 10-20 years down the line.

  • @penkima4923
    @penkima4923 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Giannis won the regular season MVP two seasons before he won the championship. Same thing with Jokic. So, unlike what Dan claimed, they didn't have massive post season success before they won MVP-awards.

  • @EmiliosFather
    @EmiliosFather 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    He’s the youngest MVP in NBA history. One of the most popular players of all time. He gets in the Hall. I’d bet my right kneecap he gets in the HOF

  • @ewmcdade
    @ewmcdade 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Dan is tripping - he is one of the most transcendent players to ever lace them up. If you weren't in awe of Derrick Rose his first 4 years in the league then you don't know hoops. His injuries also occurred while the NBA was transitioning into being a 3 point contest league which further diminished his value and minutes with each passing year.

  • @Windowlick_
    @Windowlick_ วันที่ผ่านมา

    Grant Hill has a much better case for the hall than Rose. He did still make an all star team in Orlando after all of his major injuries, and at age 35-38 played almost every game of those seasons as a valuable roleplayer on a contender. Rose won't even play a game past age 35. And of course his college accomplishments were infinitely better. Grant has simply had a much better career.

  • @ドラゴンボール_おたく
    @ドラゴンボール_おたく 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Idk if he should be in the Hall of Fame but I think the Bulls should retire his jersey

  • @gmoneycc
    @gmoneycc 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    He is retiring give hint his flowers what does Memphis have to do with anything, seem really tone deaf to the impact of D Rose in stead of that play a clip of Lebron’s take on DRose and then talk HOF

  • @coreycayton5451
    @coreycayton5451 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Marvs basketball knowledge is impressive he can go toe to toe with DP imo

  • @dantheman8152
    @dantheman8152 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Yea. He is more accomplished than a lot of guys in the Hall

  • @shermanngjazz
    @shermanngjazz 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Probably not first ballot but he'll get in eventually

  • @bigdroman5461
    @bigdroman5461 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Derrick rose is 100% gonna be in the hof

    • @MyronZhao
      @MyronZhao วันที่ผ่านมา

      they have him at a 10% chance of making it lol

    • @Vic-Vega
      @Vic-Vega วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@MyronZhaoEven that seems high to me, honestly...but it's at least in the expected ballpark.

    • @penkima4923
      @penkima4923 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      All we can do is hope he doesn't get in.

  • @RudieObias
    @RudieObias 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Overrated, but OK

  • @hijoseph100
    @hijoseph100 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Absolutely without a doubt. People forget sometimes it’s more than accolades it’s the impact left on the game and the people the fans. D🌹 is a legend.

    • @penkima4923
      @penkima4923 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      It sometimes is about the impact? Really? Regarding which players, to be precise?

  • @kevinvega1572
    @kevinvega1572 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    He was way better than JA morant

  • @herfyamaya9091
    @herfyamaya9091 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Obvious HOF. Absolutely.

  • @KingGeeKay
    @KingGeeKay 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    If Tmac, Grant Hill and Yao Ming make it DRose is a LOCK….he won ROY & MVP. How many can make that claim that already in

    • @penkima4923
      @penkima4923 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Many ROY-winners are in. Not that it should have any significance.
      Rose's MVP is an example of the MVP-award partially being a team award. That's why it shouldn't automatically grant a pass to the Hall.

  • @tianl98765
    @tianl98765 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    He is absolutely going in hof.

  • @lawrencehenderson6841
    @lawrencehenderson6841 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Not at all. Outside of the year he won the mvp what has u done that consider him to be in the hof. I mean come on really now. Has he led the league in anything? Just the youngest mvp in NBA history and thats it honestly. Wasnt nowhere near the same after the injuries

  • @busup377
    @busup377 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    If grant hill can get in with his injury’s first ballot so can rose.

    • @gtizzle7606
      @gtizzle7606 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      remember this also includes college hoops too and Grant was a beast in college. Went to NCAA championship game 3 out of his 4 years with 2 titles and was THAT dude in college.

  • @busup377
    @busup377 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    If t Mac get in first ballot so should d rose. I value a mvp award over 2 scoring titles

    • @penkima4923
      @penkima4923 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      T-Mac was selected onto 7 all-NBA and 7 all-star teams. Rose to 3 all-star teams and 1 all-NBA team. Neither one should get into the Hall, but T-Mac had the better case.

  • @KevinMontgomery-q1f
    @KevinMontgomery-q1f 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Yes T Mac got in

  • @jamesglover4731
    @jamesglover4731 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    D Rose definitely an HOF just on impact

  • @nitsujneal
    @nitsujneal วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Gonna take a while but he getting in. Youngest MVP

    • @TheIcemanthomas
      @TheIcemanthomas วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      How old he was is irrelevant

  • @Kirbystare1992
    @Kirbystare1992 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Based off who’s in? Easy he’s in

    • @TheIcemanthomas
      @TheIcemanthomas วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Who’s in that he has a better overall career than?

  • @TheKickenWING
    @TheKickenWING 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Stop it!!!!! Absolutely not

  • @underwaterlevelz1947
    @underwaterlevelz1947 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    No. Delicate Rose was a Chicago bust. The minute they paid him the big money he fell apart, it sandbagged the organization for a decade. He made the mistake of worrying so much about life after basketball that he didn't bother to play hard. He was worried he would be feeling too sore for meetings and graduations.

  • @scott783
    @scott783 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    No

    • @jfade8066
      @jfade8066 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yes

    • @scott783
      @scott783 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@jfade8066 go write a hurt feelings report and send it to adam silverslipper, you gen z clown

    • @scott783
      @scott783 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jfade8066 no clown, go back to your gen z world in your home in mom's basement.

    • @scott783
      @scott783 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@jfade8066 no clown, go back to your gen z world in your home in mom's basement.

  • @Vic-Vega
    @Vic-Vega วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    No.
    Next question.

    • @jfade8066
      @jfade8066 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yes

  • @Buzz_Kill71
    @Buzz_Kill71 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    If you win the MVP at some point in your career, you ARE a Hall of Famer.

    • @TheIcemanthomas
      @TheIcemanthomas วันที่ผ่านมา

      That’s not how it works. U don’t get a career accolade on ONE great year. U need more. Hof is overall

    • @Buzz_Kill71
      @Buzz_Kill71 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@TheIcemanthomas MVP is the he biggest Individual accolade a player can attain. Rose did more than that though... He was RoY, first team all NBA, 3x all star... And more.

    • @penkima4923
      @penkima4923 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@Buzz_Kill71 Much of Rose's MVP was due to his team's winning record. He was arguably not a top-10 player in the league. Definitely not the best point guard. And that's for his best and only great season.

    • @legend1884
      @legend1884 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@TheIcemanthomasusually but with magic Johnson he would made the hall of Fame of his rookie season won a title and was fmvp

  • @drexlspivey3047
    @drexlspivey3047 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    NO. NO. NO

    • @jfade8066
      @jfade8066 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Yes

  • @markjones952
    @markjones952 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    If you have to ask...its a no.

  • @scott783
    @scott783 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Then you would have to let penny hardaway in. rose does not get in

  • @mikepikos4447
    @mikepikos4447 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    best year was when he was 22 and won the mvp. thats it. but i put him in for all the money he got from addidas from his shoe contract when he was barely playing. his bust should come with a ski mask.

  • @raaj1287
    @raaj1287 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Damn Dan Patrick is kinda a hater here for once. Memphis really? The kid was from Englewood.

    • @MrTUBEular10
      @MrTUBEular10 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      He played college for Memphis and went to the National Championship vs Kansas. Englewood is the area of Chicago he grew up in.

  • @cryptidian3530
    @cryptidian3530 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Is this even a question? YES.

  • @happyboy420666
    @happyboy420666 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    He's not a hall of famer

  • @-_Bee
    @-_Bee วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    😂😂😂. Nope. If he a Hall of famer Bronny a hall of famer right now 😂😂😂

    • @lawrencehenderson6841
      @lawrencehenderson6841 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Shhiid if Rose get in u gotta let my mans Brain Scalabrine in too. He got a ring

  • @512UTL
    @512UTL วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    No, but the Chauncey Billups got in so why not. People are romanticizing his career but for three-four years he was the laughing stock of social media getting memed for having knees like light bulbs

    • @TheIcemanthomas
      @TheIcemanthomas วันที่ผ่านมา

      Billups won a chip

    • @gtizzle7606
      @gtizzle7606 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      besides Billups leading the Pistons to the NBA championship, he was also the finals MVP.

    • @penkima4923
      @penkima4923 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@gtizzle7606 Playing a good final series versus a 40 year old GP isn't leading the Pistons to the championship. He definitely wasn't the best player on the team. Possibly not top-3. He probably wasn't a top-10 player in the league for any season. He shouldn't be in the Hall.

    • @skywalker2676
      @skywalker2676 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@penkima4923billups won finals mvp and led went to 7 straight conference final appearances bro wtf

    • @gtizzle7606
      @gtizzle7606 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@penkima4923 he was a clutch player the whole year hence the name mr. big shot. No one else on that team is runnin the point as effectively as he did. He may not have been the best player but he was the most clutch. The Lakers were supposed to win that series and they got steamrolled.