At last some pundits who actually say what fans have been saying about dyche for the last year. Not the "we should be glad to have him". He's done a good job, but he will.never have a team as big as this and he talks the team down. No ambition, no ideas, doesn't react quickly enough with subs.
@paulkendall7890 the guy went 4 months without a win, and only got 4 in 12 months, 3 of those in 1 week and the media lapped up his excuses for too long. Lampard for all his faults, got the club and tried to do something positive, without any strikers and was better than this.
@paulkendall7890 I'd take Frank in a heartbeat, but doubt he'd come. I'd have moyes back for stability or terzic or conciecio if he would come. Both out of work
He got Everton playing the best football since David Moyes last year. Had a clear style of football that was successful and could take them to top half of table if he got good players that fit into that system. Owners went out and bought players who don’t fit in the system and aren’t good enough. If you think a smaller club playing for 0-0 is bad then you don’t understand football in the slightest - look at forest winning with counter attacking football in a very similar style to dyche, just admit you don’t have a clue about football and be quiet next time
@HappyBob701 🤣🤣🤣🤣 you clearly didn't see us play with james Rodriguez under carlo. Miles better than the dross dyche put out, he's gaslighted you into thinking he's good. 1 game against brighton and 70mins v Bournemouth aside, it's grind out 1-0 with pickdord keeping us in games, we are not that defensively good as people make out
P/s nono inherited a lot of those players and got them playing his style, incorporating their strengths like pace and skill. We get 1 skillful player (who scored 20 goals in a season at #10 in the championship and says their is no evidence he came play their and constantly tells him to track back and tackle. You clearly know nothing about footy (probably a Liverpool fan)
2 years of playing for a 0-0 ,dyche said last interview that it’s the same problem since before he came here about scoring. He’s had 2 years to sort that problem,he’s admitted he can’t an hasn’t been able to solve it in the 2 years hes brought in 3 strikers all pony….. time to go
fair shout .. but............ 5 seconds be about right ! Durrasic football,went with the Brontosaurus.. Tony Pullis. oh me,oh my,I,you,all of us. I will name,25 outstanding young manager / coaches.. Lower level,much lower,who .in a different football ability... Parish than Dyche,..no bs . How Dyche not been FOXTROT OSCARED eons ago,baffling.
@@billyedwards6941 They don't have half their players running down their contracts and actually have much better players. We have crap players with a crap attitude. Sacking Dyche won't make any difference.
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So you say "Wolves are playing better with the same players" and get 20+ thumbs up. The world is full of idiots.
Close to having the worst record in Everton management history. 1 goal in 11 hours of football. Lowest xg of any club. Boring ass football with zero attacking potential. Bought a player for £17.5 million who doesn't get a sniff. Absolute joke of a manager.
Cant believe he still isnt sacked should have been straight after the Bournemouth game absolute disgrace of a man who blames everyone but himself he is tactically inept we want him gone
I never thought as an Everton fan I would ever watch my team play so much crap football in all the years I have watch them.need to act now before it’s to late.
Soccer pundits are not worth listening to because they have forgotten the things we fans remember. 2-0 up on 87 minutes at home how can you lose three two. It's a record comeback. I would have sacked Dyche after that one game. Brentford down to ten men for 45 mins. Zero ideas how to get a goal.That was clearly beyond Dyches ability. Look back on the previous 19 games to see the likely outcome of the next 19 games
@@Connor-dy4ih saying ndiaye hasn't done enough. he's trying his hardest and is the only one to be having a go and doucoure was Everton's second highest scorer last year. Lundstrum hasn't really been given a chance and it's all down to dyche and his poor management.
@ I love Ndiaye but do think he needs to more with end product but at the same time I’m aware that’s hard in this side. For the season doucoure was but in 2024 he only scored one league goal. Lindstrom does deserve more of a chance but he is massively lightweight.
@Connor-dy4ih David Silva was light so that's not an excuse, ndiaye hasn't got anyone to aim for because nobody is on his level or puts the effort in to help him and doucoure has dropped off but has scored some important goals and helped a lot more than what he's done recently. We support the club and Warnock does punditry for a job he's got an opinion but he's wrong on a lot of things and they always defend the managers.
Dyche can't keep dining out on what he did at Burnley, that was ages ago, He's the next Allardyce, alright for a quick fix, but quickly runs out of ideas.
Warnock is spot on. Dyche deserves credit for the job he's done with one hand tied behind his back BUT......he can't take it on. He can't move the club forward and when that happens the writing is on the wall. Thanks Sean but it's time to go...
This is down to the club. Half the players are running down their contracts and don't give a crap. We don't have a player who could hit a barn door with a banjo nevermind a goal. We are 85% down. If we sack Dyche, we will become 100% certain of relegation. This is the worst Everton team I've seen in 70 years. Sack the manager by all means just don't get your hopes up.
@ Need a minimum 15 goals a season striker. Why didn’t Everton go for Delap, Semenya or Cunha when they were available for very little? In the current top 25 strikers in the EPL this season, not one Everton player appears, yet 5 Spurs’ players appear.
Hard to argue that Everton don't have the money to be competitive when clubs like Fulham, Bournemouth, and Forest are able to find ways. I get that Everton are building a new stadium, but they're so wasteful with the money they have. For every good signing like Ndaiye they sign 3 or 4 duds
@@abnrgr7569your wrong this is the best bit of business we have done as a club, what ruined it was the amount of ridiculous signings we have made over Moshiris tenure and lost so much money in doing so
@@abnrgr7569very wrong. The stadium will give Everton many opportunities to grow the clubs financial status . It’s actually their best business move in recent decades
I go home and away, lots of pundits do not. He needs to go now. Listen to his interviews before and after games, blaming others not his staff or him. He cannot attack and defending only gets you a point. Not good enough. Wake up, sack this dinosaur now.
Whenever you talk about Ipswich you have to talk about Kieran McKenna. Every single player we have signed he has improved to some degree or other, some out of all recognition.
Everton needs a manager that can get them out of fighting relegation year in and year out. Everton should be in the top half of the table without question but never are anymore. That’s a problem that needs to be fixed sooner than later or else Everton will be playing in that great new stadium against championship clubs💀💀
They should be giving more chances to their academy too. Harrison Armstrong is definitely ready. Luke Butterfield and Jack Butler may be worth a go. They are good and play in positions that need reinvigorating. Billy Crellin is talented should Pickford finally get a deserved big move. The academy is worth a shot in times like these.
Absolutely spot on with the assessment on recruitment... Had to get recruitment right with the budget we had... We didn't, between Dyche and thelwell made the squad bigger but with players no where near good enough, broja injured,beto poor, Lindstrom not good enough, Harrison has fallen well off has a player, ndiaye bright and tricky but very little end product. Mangala possibly fits into the role alright, but we lack quality and pace
Arrogant, one dimensional dinosaur. We dont score because we are not organised to score. We can all see it....he cant Get out of my club. And take DopeCoure, Young and Gueye with you. Never felt so disconnected to my club.
It's a start.......sick of it all. In two minds about the FA Cup Thursday and my Villa seat will probably go up for grabs too. Talking of Thursday- What's the FA Cup 3rd round doing on a Thursday night?
2 pretty undisputable facts. 1. Sean Dyche has never demonstrated an ability to coach a side that can attack. 2. Everton spent almost 40% of a meagre transfer budget last summer on a 4th choice centre half who can't get near the team.
I was up for Dyche from the start and appreciated what he's done for us with no money. Unfortunately, he's reached his peak and lets be honest, it's not good enough. Football has changed and his generic style is not built for the modern game.
With a manager that have the philosphy that you don't need a dedicated coach for attacking play there will be chaos up front. Sean Dyche have the idea that this is his project and he knows it all, and the players should have learned attacking from childhood, so practise ain't needed. Narcissist from A to B.
Dyche and 'Thurlwall' didnt sign Doucoure. But - heres the thing - Dyche and Thirlwell aren't in sync and they dont have resources to rebuild yet. So Dyche, thanks, but so long. He's not getting the best out the squad.
I disagree with the moyes shouts we need a manager for taking us forward into next season and beyond not till the summer we need to get out of this cycle of bringing managers in to try save our bacon, otherwise we’re gonna be in this situation every bloody year
Yeah but the issue is we can’t play an expansive brand of football with the players the club, most managers would want your full backs bombing on we haven’t got that in Mykolenko/Patterson/Young
Not rocket science. Dyche doesn't trust his players. His system is for the players to kick the ball away, which we've done for years - since the 80s. His players are crap in possession. Simple answer - better players and better manager required.
The problem with DCL is that it has to be put on a plate for him to score. And we have anyone in the squad who can do that Plus I think the has made his mind up to leave months ago.
The helmet on the right, is part right, but Ndiaye, Gana and Mangala are quality players, they arent the problem, the problem is no threat of wing backs overlapping or helping, no quality right winger, strikers not getting any service whatsoever Shes closer. You can tell who actually watches and who doesn’t.
I think your right. When I was watching the Bournemouth game, your actually looking for someone to create something and it seems to be mangala and gana who are often left with that task. That just isn't their game and therein lies your problem.
Teams in the PL with worse players than Everton have better organisation and patterns of play and are therefore greater than thew sum of their parts. Everton in contract through lack of this are weaker than the sum of their parts.
Sue Smith really is one of, if not the best pundit around atm. Warnock’s opinions on Everton, when he doesn’t even know the names of the players, really shows how little he should be taken seriously. Dyche can not set a team up to attack, and that is why he will never manage a club as big as us again. He’s a firefighter, with zero interest in youth or progression. Get him gone
The two pundits also miss the lack of pace down the flanks and creativity from midfield in terms of incisive through balls. Bournemouth cut Everton open time and again that way on Saturday. Dyche's system means it doesn't matter who plays up front, they're feeding on scraps and hoping for a dead ball situation.
It was a matter of time, his contract was never going to be renewed. The debate was would they actually SACK THIS SEASON, because they would need to pay him compensation. Obviously the new owners don't need to worry about compensation, and the shadow of relegation looms NOT GOOD
Just Look At Nottingham Forest they in 3rd just came up last year. In year 2 they got very good 👍🏾 👌🏽. Everton fc needs to fire All Scouts they're 💩💩💩. Fire he's clueless has no offensive plan. Fire the Administration they signed off on bad players.
Persisting in playing keane at start of the season coming back to bite him. He could have 6-9 pnts more on table and his job safe. Let's just hope it doesn't cause Everton to be relegated also.
The stats against Dyche are horrific. The Everton team Big Sam worked with was far worse and he finished 8th. And neither Lampard or Dyche kept Everton up. Jordan Pickford did... Compare a back line of Martina, Williams, Holgate and Kenny (All Championship standard) Vs Mykolenko Branthwaite Tarkowski Young. The latter is far superior and was the 4th best in the last last season. And this Everton side is far superior to any Burnley team Dyche managed. Even the one which finished 7th. So the idea that the tools he's working with aren't good enough is utter nonsense. This Everton team is far better than Southampton, Leicester and Ipswich. And if they go down, it's due to Dyche's small club mentality. He's a Poundland Big Sam. And that's an insult to Big Sam.
I’m not sure they are better than Ipswich, maybe in defence but attacking ipswich are decent and have a striker in delap who can score goals Calvert Lewin is a busted flush
@@ryansirmon3474 I'll have to disagree with you there. Ipswich have hit some form lately (perhaps at the right time?) but they aren't better on paper. Half their squad was there in League One (though they made some smart signings - Delap in particular). And a better manager gets far more out of this Everton side. It's not as bad as it's made out by the manager/media. But, on numbers. Ipswich have only scored 5 more goals than Everton while having played an extra game. And this is an Everton side everyone is talking about for an awful attack (and hasn't scored in 8 of the past 10 games lol). Never mind they've conceded an extra 10 goals in comparison to Everton. On DCL though. He gets so much stick. Some of it deserved, but some of it not. I think he knows he's leaving and so his mind is elsewhere. In which case he needs to be sold. But he had zero shots at goal against Bournemouth last game. A striker can't score if they aren't allowed to shoot lol. It's down to Dyche-ball, not the strikers themselves imo. There's no decent RW and the full backs aren't allowed to go forwards properly. And when he plays a donkey like Doucoure in CAM, you're killing any potential counter attacks with his dreadful passing lol. But fair enough. I respect the opinion.
I like Dyche because he’s a Forest fan but from an Everton point of view they surely can do much better something like 3 wins in 20 games is appalling go get Grahame potter or just a younger manager with brighter tactics
I'm not sure we can, mate. Our recruitment, unlike yours was horrendous (when we had cash) and we have been paying that debt for the last five years. Dyche, while the stats make for poor reading, has kept us up twice.
Steven Warnock is a joke - calling Lindstrom - Lundstrum, then saying Everton should have bought Liam Delap when we havent had a bean to spend because of PSR. Calling Thelwell - Thirlwell.
@@efc0237all to do with payment structure. Beto is a buy now and pay later, thats why we are selling him now and hes in Torino. Delap deal paid upfront which we couldnt do
@benpowelldrummer not all of them. Defensively were decent, managala and Gana are both great players that cover the whole pitch, Ganas stats speak for themselves for years he's consistently near the top for what he does, they're not the problem, its the lack of creativity, the lack of cohesion and direction, the lack of overlapping wingbacks or any threat of someone putting a cross in and striking wise, they little they have to feed off, they're way off it Can't blame our cdms..
Warnock is a little off with a few things but his main point is correct, Kevin Thelwell is just as culpable as Sean Dyche. He spends £17m on a CB that can’t get in the team. 🤷♂️
He was bought in case we sold Jarrad, and Keane will leave in the summer. He isn't going to dislodge the current two. Who had one of the top defences in the league last season (despite our table position).
Everton have been in or hovering near the relegation zone for a number of seasons irrespective of the manager. Were it not for Pickford the club would already be in the Championship. Without an upgrade to the squad nothing is going to change.
Finally now your talking about these midtable teams and manager west ham are in dreadful form and no one talks about them it's always big 6 they wanna talk about
No guarantees we do any better with what will be available to us. We have been here before. We have just played a lot of the top 8 in succession, with only 3 fit midfielders (two 30+) and without our set piece taker. Dyche Has kept us up twice though. Once, with less games, lower in the table and without a fit striker. Is it ideal? No, it is dreadful but, the balance of stick or twist is less clear than people realize. What if the new manager thinks they should pass it out from the back? We dont have the necessary quality and will ship goals. We can't afford to appoint the wrong person... And Dyche has kept us up twice.
Why have warnock commenting on this? He has no idea about the players, the money paid, their names, the way they have played this season, pointless drivel.
Idiots. Everton will find a way to stay up, but not because they didn't do everything possible to go down. Dyche is the best they deserve and the best they will get. He figured out early on that keeping them up was the best they could hope for. Park the bus and fingers crossed. I don't care who they were, this is who they ARE.
@ Agreed. Same issue United are facing. Past glory is not relevant, but it is hard to let go and face reality. I hope Everton sort it out before it’s too late.
At last some pundits who actually say what fans have been saying about dyche for the last year. Not the "we should be glad to have him". He's done a good job, but he will.never have a team as big as this and he talks the team down. No ambition, no ideas, doesn't react quickly enough with subs.
@paulkendall7890 the guy went 4 months without a win, and only got 4 in 12 months, 3 of those in 1 week and the media lapped up his excuses for too long.
Lampard for all his faults, got the club and tried to do something positive, without any strikers and was better than this.
@paulkendall7890 I'd take Frank in a heartbeat, but doubt he'd come. I'd have moyes back for stability or terzic or conciecio if he would come. Both out of work
He got Everton playing the best football since David Moyes last year. Had a clear style of football that was successful and could take them to top half of table if he got good players that fit into that system. Owners went out and bought players who don’t fit in the system and aren’t good enough. If you think a smaller club playing for 0-0 is bad then you don’t understand football in the slightest - look at forest winning with counter attacking football in a very similar style to dyche, just admit you don’t have a clue about football and be quiet next time
@HappyBob701 🤣🤣🤣🤣 you clearly didn't see us play with james Rodriguez under carlo. Miles better than the dross dyche put out, he's gaslighted you into thinking he's good. 1 game against brighton and 70mins v Bournemouth aside, it's grind out 1-0 with pickdord keeping us in games, we are not that defensively good as people make out
P/s nono inherited a lot of those players and got them playing his style, incorporating their strengths like pace and skill. We get 1 skillful player (who scored 20 goals in a season at #10 in the championship and says their is no evidence he came play their and constantly tells him to track back and tackle. You clearly know nothing about footy (probably a Liverpool fan)
Can’t win 3 in 19 and hope to keep your job
Vincent did worse last year and ended up rewarded.
With that squad 1 win would be an overachievement. Who else takes Dyche’s place? Hes literally the only good thing at Everton right now
@ yep and his team tried to play a bit of football. Dyche ball is agonising ale house football
Bought Beto and Chermitti, loaned Harrison and lindstrom and Broja and nothing has changed upfront....please take Thelwell with you SD.
All other clubs cast offs and all we could get in the market we shop in.
He brought them in because dcl is useless
2 years of playing for a 0-0 ,dyche said last interview that it’s the same problem since before he came here about scoring. He’s had 2 years to sort that problem,he’s admitted he can’t an hasn’t been able to solve it in the 2 years hes brought in 3 strikers all pony….. time to go
@MikeyMc-go4qo shopping in the bargain basement isn't easy.
I agree thelswell has been a disaster
That assessment should take 5 minutes ,,,shocking manager
Shouldn’t take 2 seconds
fair shout ..
but............
5 seconds be about right !
Durrasic football,went with the Brontosaurus..
Tony Pullis.
oh me,oh my,I,you,all of us.
I will name,25 outstanding young manager / coaches..
Lower level,much lower,who .in a different football ability...
Parish than Dyche,..no bs .
How Dyche not been FOXTROT OSCARED eons ago,baffling.
Dyche took Burnley to Europe. This means Everton's squad is even worse than Burnleys lol (aside from Pickford)
Straight swap for arteta then yeah ??.. thought not
Wolves are playing better with the same players sometimes it needs the guidance of a good general
@@billyedwards6941 They don't have half their players running down their contracts and actually have much better players. We have crap players with a crap attitude. Sacking Dyche won't make any difference.
So you say "Wolves are playing better with the same players" and get 20+ thumbs up. The world is full of idiots.
@@JG-us9luso you accept that if Everton stick with Dyche Wolves will finish above them!
@davidtaylor6793 possibly
They lost at home 0-3 to Wolves.
The home game v Southampton in the league cup is when Dyche lost me, hes got to go!
Exactly mate
Close to having the worst record in Everton management history. 1 goal in 11 hours of football. Lowest xg of any club. Boring ass football with zero attacking potential. Bought a player for £17.5 million who doesn't get a sniff. Absolute joke of a manager.
Cant believe he still isnt sacked should have been straight after the Bournemouth game absolute disgrace of a man who blames everyone but himself he is tactically inept we want him gone
Stephen is right what he’s saying
I never thought as an Everton fan I would ever watch my team play so much crap football in all the years I have watch them.need to act now before it’s to late.
As a Burnley fan I feel your pain having to watch dyche ball.
Brother on the right was spot on, from an evertonian point of view
Soccer pundits are not worth listening to because they have forgotten the things we fans remember. 2-0 up on 87 minutes at home how can you lose three two. It's a record comeback. I would have sacked Dyche after that one game. Brentford down to ten men for 45 mins. Zero ideas how to get a goal.That was clearly beyond Dyches ability.
Look back on the previous 19 games to see the likely outcome of the next 19 games
This guy moaning about forwards when we sit on edge of the box all game and boot it long to someone on their own
We’ve scored in 2 of our last 10 games and one was at home to Gary O’Neill’s Wolves. It shouldn’t take that long to assess
For the first time ever Im agreeing with Warnock. Other than saying dyche has done an incredible job he’s bang on with everything he’s said.
He's not though 😂
@ Where do you disagree with what he’s said?
@@Connor-dy4ih saying ndiaye hasn't done enough. he's trying his hardest and is the only one to be having a go and doucoure was Everton's second highest scorer last year. Lundstrum hasn't really been given a chance and it's all down to dyche and his poor management.
@ I love Ndiaye but do think he needs to more with end product but at the same time I’m aware that’s hard in this side. For the season doucoure was but in 2024 he only scored one league goal. Lindstrom does deserve more of a chance but he is massively lightweight.
@Connor-dy4ih David Silva was light so that's not an excuse, ndiaye hasn't got anyone to aim for because nobody is on his level or puts the effort in to help him and doucoure has dropped off but has scored some important goals and helped a lot more than what he's done recently. We support the club and Warnock does punditry for a job he's got an opinion but he's wrong on a lot of things and they always defend the managers.
We are the worse team in the league going forward.
Dyche got to go need goals they will come when he's gone coyybb
Dyche can't keep dining out on what he did at Burnley, that was ages ago, He's the next Allardyce, alright for a quick fix, but quickly runs out of ideas.
Or players either costing too much, or not wanting to play here.
Needs to go today.
Good point, sack Dyche and Thelwell
Warnock is spot on. Dyche deserves credit for the job he's done with one hand tied behind his back BUT......he can't take it on. He can't move the club forward and when that happens the writing is on the wall. Thanks Sean but it's time to go...
Being beaten by Bournemouth seems to have had this effect for quite a few bigger teams.
Everton has plenty of tools. That's the problem!
I think they should stick with Dyche. He'll keep them up and they can bring players in during the summer.
Depending on Doucoure to be your key man in midfield who is supposed to supply the killer balls to the forwards is madness.
I was shocked to find out the other day he is only 32 I thought he was further into his 30s, he’s not good enough absolutely awful
This is down to the club. Half the players are running down their contracts and don't give a crap. We don't have a player who could hit a barn door with a banjo nevermind a goal. We are 85% down. If we sack Dyche, we will become 100% certain of relegation.
This is the worst Everton team I've seen in 70 years. Sack the manager by all means just don't get your hopes up.
DCL scored 16 in the season under Carlo
@gmatthews7632 Yeah, he done it once in 10 years. You gotta get lucky sometime. How many one on one has he missed this year.
And don't forget that he (and/or Thelwell) brought in O'Brien for £18 million and he's played 42mins in 19 games.
And that's on Dyche...he refuses to play the lads....Patterson, O'Brien, Armstrong...Dyche has gotta go. 😡
Dyche’s position is untenable. TFG have sacked 2 managers at Roma so they won’t hesitate to sack Dyche
hope your right 😊
@ The signings have been poor and the strikers get no service whatsoever
@@adrianbennett3761DCL has missed loads of sitters and one on ones this season 😂
@ Need a minimum 15 goals a season striker. Why didn’t Everton go for Delap, Semenya or Cunha when they were available for very little? In the current top 25 strikers in the EPL this season, not one Everton player appears, yet 5 Spurs’ players appear.
@ Everton’s recruitment isn’t the best. What are the scouts and DofF doing???
Not my manager🤬🤬 Dychout! ... MoyesIn! 😍
Hard to argue that Everton don't have the money to be competitive when clubs like Fulham, Bournemouth, and Forest are able to find ways. I get that Everton are building a new stadium, but they're so wasteful with the money they have. For every good signing like Ndaiye they sign 3 or 4 duds
We've got money but can't spend it you do realise we got points deducted last season?
The stadium was a ignorant uneducated business move.
@@abnrgr7569your wrong this is the best bit of business we have done as a club, what ruined it was the amount of ridiculous signings we have made over Moshiris tenure and lost so much money in doing so
@@abnrgr7569very wrong. The stadium will give Everton many opportunities to grow the clubs financial status . It’s actually their best business move in recent decades
@@abnrgr7569 Is this a sarcastic statement?
Assessing, shouldn't take long to do that,about 10 minutes. Got to be sacked or we drop.
I go home and away, lots of pundits do not. He needs to go now. Listen to his interviews before and after games, blaming others not his staff or him. He cannot attack and defending only gets you a point. Not good enough. Wake up, sack this dinosaur now.
Everton are so boring to watch poor poor fans, he just sets up to nick a draw, so anti football is his tactics
Whenever you talk about Ipswich you have to talk about Kieran McKenna. Every single player we have signed he has improved to some degree or other, some out of all recognition.
Why is sue Smith always on?
Token
There boxes ticked
Because she is good at her job?
Love Sue Smith a true Everton fan
Because she’s one of the best pundits they’ve got.
Everton needs a manager that can get them out of fighting relegation year in and year out. Everton should be in the top half of the table without question but never are anymore. That’s a problem that needs to be fixed sooner than later or else Everton will be playing in that great new stadium against championship clubs💀💀
i like this woman! finally someone in the mainstream who knows what they are talking about.
Worst mistake Dyche made was letting go of Tom Cannon. Extremely reliable striker who outperforms his service.
They should be giving more chances to their academy too. Harrison Armstrong is definitely ready. Luke Butterfield and Jack Butler may be worth a go. They are good and play in positions that need reinvigorating. Billy Crellin is talented should Pickford finally get a deserved big move. The academy is worth a shot in times like these.
Dyche and thelwell both need sacking asap UTFT
Absolutely spot on with the assessment on recruitment... Had to get recruitment right with the budget we had... We didn't, between Dyche and thelwell made the squad bigger but with players no where near good enough, broja injured,beto poor, Lindstrom not good enough, Harrison has fallen well off has a player, ndiaye bright and tricky but very little end product. Mangala possibly fits into the role alright, but we lack quality and pace
Arrogant, one dimensional dinosaur. We dont score because we are not organised to score. We can all see it....he cant
Get out of my club. And take DopeCoure, Young and Gueye with you.
Never felt so disconnected to my club.
0 shots on target against Arsenal and Bournemouth and having 0 goals scored in 8 of your last 10 games is embarrassing.
Who let Dyche cook? 😭
His wife won't even let him cook 😂
don't worry about everton look at the state of utd 😂😂😂😂
@ why?
@@TDI279 because united are terrible 😆 they're only 6 points above Everton and are 13th in the table 😂
@ 4-0 🤫 humble yourselves
It's a start.......sick of it all.
In two minds about the FA Cup Thursday and my Villa seat will probably go up for grabs too.
Talking of Thursday- What's the FA Cup 3rd round doing on a Thursday night?
It's on tv
2 pretty undisputable facts. 1. Sean Dyche has never demonstrated an ability to coach a side that can attack. 2. Everton spent almost 40% of a meagre transfer budget last summer on a 4th choice centre half who can't get near the team.
WTF is 'Sue Smith' and what does she know about football?
I was up for Dyche from the start and appreciated what he's done for us with no money. Unfortunately, he's reached his peak and lets be honest, it's not good enough. Football has changed and his generic style is not built for the modern game.
Everton are the only team to make a profit on transfers over the past 5 years. Dyche has done brilliant with one hand tied behind his back
You have to agree with everything said here.
No you don't
With a manager that have the philosphy that you don't need a dedicated coach for attacking play there will be chaos up front. Sean Dyche have the idea that this is his project and he knows it all, and the players should have learned attacking from childhood, so practise ain't needed. Narcissist from A to B.
Dyche could have the best team in the world and they would still be in a relegation battle. That's his strength.
Dyche and 'Thurlwall' didnt sign Doucoure. But - heres the thing - Dyche and Thirlwell aren't in sync and they dont have resources to rebuild yet. So Dyche, thanks, but so long. He's not getting the best out the squad.
He should get fired this one playing boring football the first thing this new owners have to do
Spot on analysis by both and every issue!
I disagree with the moyes shouts we need a manager for taking us forward into next season and beyond not till the summer we need to get out of this cycle of bringing managers in to try save our bacon, otherwise we’re gonna be in this situation every bloody year
Yeah but the issue is we can’t play an expansive brand of football with the players the club, most managers would want your full backs bombing on we haven’t got that in Mykolenko/Patterson/Young
Not rocket science. Dyche doesn't trust his players. His system is for the players to kick the ball away, which we've done for years - since the 80s. His players are crap in possession. Simple answer - better players and better manager required.
Excellent point
@Kurgan618 you obviously weren't around in the 80s then?
Get him out!
The problem with DCL is that it has to be put on a plate for him to score. And we have anyone in the squad who can do that Plus I think the has made his mind up to leave months ago.
Sack him now!!! What are you waiting for
Probably best he goes now - he’s lost the confidence of players and fans.
Dyche, Calvert Lewin and the beloved Woany and Stoney GOOD BYE
Sean Dyche can be new Arsenal manager, "Burnley Settings". Should wait until Dyche beats Liverpool he is a master of that. Then sack him
The helmet on the right, is part right, but Ndiaye, Gana and Mangala are quality players, they arent the problem, the problem is no threat of wing backs overlapping or helping, no quality right winger, strikers not getting any service whatsoever
Shes closer.
You can tell who actually watches and who doesn’t.
I think your right. When I was watching the Bournemouth game, your actually looking for someone to create something and it seems to be mangala and gana who are often left with that task. That just isn't their game and therein lies your problem.
Can’t help but agree with Stephen
Don’t care who comes in get him OUT
Feeling sorry for DCL is joke he had numerous good chances to score. Get a real pundet Sky.
Teams in the PL with worse players than Everton have better organisation and patterns of play and are therefore greater than thew sum of their parts. Everton in contract through lack of this are weaker than the sum of their parts.
Get David Moyes
@@jaytality4797 behave yourself
Sue Smith really is one of, if not the best pundit around atm. Warnock’s opinions on Everton, when he doesn’t even know the names of the players, really shows how little he should be taken seriously. Dyche can not set a team up to attack, and that is why he will never manage a club as big as us again. He’s a firefighter, with zero interest in youth or progression. Get him gone
😂 she shouldn't even be talking about men's football
@ do you think her points about the game aren’t valid?
@@adamkennedy7297ridiculous statement. She talks twice as much sense as Warnock here, and most of the rest of the brain dead pundits on Sky.
The two pundits also miss the lack of pace down the flanks and creativity from midfield in terms of incisive through balls. Bournemouth cut Everton open time and again that way on Saturday. Dyche's system means it doesn't matter who plays up front, they're feeding on scraps and hoping for a dead ball situation.
It was a matter of time, his contract was never going to be renewed. The debate was would they actually SACK THIS SEASON, because they would need to pay him compensation. Obviously the new owners don't need to worry about compensation, and the shadow of relegation looms NOT GOOD
Just Look At Nottingham Forest they in 3rd just came up last year. In year 2 they got very good 👍🏾 👌🏽. Everton fc needs to fire All Scouts they're 💩💩💩. Fire he's clueless has no offensive plan. Fire the Administration they signed off on bad players.
Persisting in playing keane at start of the season coming back to bite him. He could have 6-9 pnts more on table and his job safe. Let's just hope it doesn't cause Everton to be relegated also.
The stats against Dyche are horrific. The Everton team Big Sam worked with was far worse and he finished 8th. And neither Lampard or Dyche kept Everton up. Jordan Pickford did...
Compare a back line of Martina, Williams, Holgate and Kenny (All Championship standard) Vs Mykolenko Branthwaite Tarkowski Young. The latter is far superior and was the 4th best in the last last season.
And this Everton side is far superior to any Burnley team Dyche managed. Even the one which finished 7th. So the idea that the tools he's working with aren't good enough is utter nonsense.
This Everton team is far better than Southampton, Leicester and Ipswich. And if they go down, it's due to Dyche's small club mentality. He's a Poundland Big Sam. And that's an insult to Big Sam.
I’m not sure they are better than Ipswich, maybe in defence but attacking ipswich are decent and have a striker in delap who can score goals Calvert Lewin is a busted flush
@@ryansirmon3474 I'll have to disagree with you there. Ipswich have hit some form lately (perhaps at the right time?) but they aren't better on paper. Half their squad was there in League One (though they made some smart signings - Delap in particular). And a better manager gets far more out of this Everton side. It's not as bad as it's made out by the manager/media.
But, on numbers. Ipswich have only scored 5 more goals than Everton while having played an extra game. And this is an Everton side everyone is talking about for an awful attack (and hasn't scored in 8 of the past 10 games lol). Never mind they've conceded an extra 10 goals in comparison to Everton.
On DCL though. He gets so much stick. Some of it deserved, but some of it not. I think he knows he's leaving and so his mind is elsewhere. In which case he needs to be sold. But he had zero shots at goal against Bournemouth last game. A striker can't score if they aren't allowed to shoot lol. It's down to Dyche-ball, not the strikers themselves imo. There's no decent RW and the full backs aren't allowed to go forwards properly. And when he plays a donkey like Doucoure in CAM, you're killing any potential counter attacks with his dreadful passing lol.
But fair enough. I respect the opinion.
the fella with the 1980's glasses talks sense.
Bournemouth, Brighton, Fulham and Forest have all made far better signings than Everton. Why are Everton missing out on the best sub £30M players?
Well said, lad!
I like Dyche because he’s a Forest fan but from an Everton point of view they surely can do much better something like 3 wins in 20 games is appalling go get Grahame potter or just a younger manager with brighter tactics
I'm not sure we can, mate.
Our recruitment, unlike yours was horrendous (when we had cash) and we have been paying that debt for the last five years.
Dyche, while the stats make for poor reading, has kept us up twice.
sack on the cards hopefully
Steven Warnock is a joke - calling Lindstrom - Lundstrum, then saying Everton should have bought Liam Delap when we havent had a bean to spend because of PSR. Calling Thelwell - Thirlwell.
But the points he made were spot on
Well we signed Beto for more than Delap so that wouldn’t make sense in terms of PSR
@@efc0237all to do with payment structure. Beto is a buy now and pay later, thats why we are selling him now and hes in Torino. Delap deal paid upfront which we couldnt do
@benpowelldrummer not all of them. Defensively were decent, managala and Gana are both great players that cover the whole pitch, Ganas stats speak for themselves for years he's consistently near the top for what he does, they're not the problem, its the lack of creativity, the lack of cohesion and direction, the lack of overlapping wingbacks or any threat of someone putting a cross in and striking wise, they little they have to feed off, they're way off it
Can't blame our cdms..
Warnock is a little off with a few things but his main point is correct, Kevin Thelwell is just as culpable as Sean Dyche. He spends £17m on a CB that can’t get in the team. 🤷♂️
He was bought in case we sold Jarrad, and Keane will leave in the summer.
He isn't going to dislodge the current two.
Who had one of the top defences in the league last season (despite our table position).
This is the season we go down. Ipswich and Wolves are in far better form than us . If we get a new manager in we stand a chance
Everton have been in or hovering near the relegation zone for a number of seasons irrespective of the manager.
Were it not for Pickford the club would already be in the Championship.
Without an upgrade to the squad nothing is going to change.
Finally now your talking about these midtable teams and manager west ham are in dreadful form and no one talks about them it's always big 6 they wanna talk about
Sack him bring Moyes back
Absolutely not 😅
Bring ten haag back
@HappyChappy78 no,11yrs is enough of dower David
Dino Dyche!
You need to understand the friedkin famiily dont wait around to sack managers look at roma mourinho gone de Rossi gone juric gone
DCL has had service but he hasn't hit the target. He's missed sitters. So don't say he hasn't had service.
No guarantees we do any better with what will be available to us.
We have been here before.
We have just played a lot of the top 8 in succession, with only 3 fit midfielders (two 30+) and without our set piece taker.
Dyche Has kept us up twice though.
Once, with less games, lower in the table and without a fit striker.
Is it ideal? No, it is dreadful but, the balance of stick or twist is less clear than people realize.
What if the new manager thinks they should pass it out from the back?
We dont have the necessary quality and will ship goals.
We can't afford to appoint the wrong person... And Dyche has kept us up twice.
Why have warnock commenting on this? He has no idea about the players, the money paid, their names, the way they have played this season, pointless drivel.
Hallelujah!!!
But put him on gardening leave.. DO NOT pay him off..
Pop Baines in.. 👍🏻
Stephen is unbearable but he is right
Need to get potter before west ham
It’s about time result be awful no Moyes please the game passed these two dinosaurs
Ask West ham fans that 😆
Idiots. Everton will find a way to stay up, but not because they didn't do everything possible to go down. Dyche is the best they deserve and the best they will get. He figured out early on that keeping them up was the best they could hope for. Park the bus and fingers crossed. I don't care who they were, this is who they ARE.
It is too tough a reality for many blues, unfortunately.
And if they force the owners hand, we are almost certain to go down.
@ Agreed. Same issue United are facing. Past glory is not relevant, but it is hard to let go and face reality. I hope Everton sort it out before it’s too late.
Am I supposed to know who either of these 2 people are who are being asked ?
The Everton job is not easy, Dyce is ageing quickly.
Moyes till the end of the season but not for the future
I think the manager is doing a wonderful job LOL😅
Get Lampard back!
Dyche needs to go asap
Gana and Doucs aren't from the Thelwell & Dyche regime