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- As a tournament angler it's important to be able to trust your equipment. It's even more important as a co-angler due to the restrictions on equipment we can bring. So how did the Abu Garcia Veritas 2.0 Micro Guide casting rods hold up to a season of BFL's? Find out in this edition of Keep'r Cull by BassGeek.
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Always appreciate another fisherman's opinion and review on gear or products. Keepem coming.
Thank you. I hope it helps. Bass fishing isn't getting cheaper so I hope I can keep people from making the same mistake I made.
I do like this type of video, My Veritas was literally 2 steps from my computer chair. So I checked it over as I watched. I bought mine last fall to replace a Cabela's Tournament Series rod that had the same guide issues. Had I seen this video I wouldn't of made the same choice. Nice Job!
Thank you sir. I may have just gotten into a bad batch. hahaha I have heard other people have the same issue with the Micro guides. If you have the standards you are good to go.
I have never been much on Abu rods myself. Thanks for making this video!!
Most are good but the micro guides on these are just bad.
I have a 7 ft med hvy with the micro guides. Had it since last march(2016) no problems with guides so far. This video was really nice and informative by the way!
S&S Outdoors Thanks and I'm glad yours is holding up they may have solved the issue.
LOL!! "heh, yeah it's floating" That was awesome! keep doing this series.
TNBassin' I was wondering if anyone got it. You are THE MAN!!!!!
Good honest review thank you..i have heard multiple people complain about the cheap guides.
Yeah me to after I had bought some.
Hi BassGeek, thanks for the review. I've read the comments below and realised you dont have problems with normal guides. I think it might have to do with the knots. Micro guides need FG knots. Unit knots or anything close to that size will break guides when casting.
William Liew I don’t use leaders. So the knots never make it threw the guides. I use backing but I don’t cast to the braid backing. Good info though. Thanks.
Thank you for your honesty.it goes along way in my book.from Ohio
Thank you for watching. I appreciate it.
good review.... i like this "keep or cull" !! i have never really gotten into micro guides
I have a few rods that have'em. I'm not a big fan of them but they seem to be the one's on sale all the time. So maybe not many people are fans of the micro guides. hahaha.
i think you may be right
I was looking at one just today! Saw your video and that changed my direction. Do you have a med/heavy 7 + you can recommend without breaking the bank?
Michael Spurlock I like Halo rods. I've been during some of the SixGill rods lately they are a little stiff but great feel and weight very durable and I think they are running a buy one get one free deal right now. Just so you know I'm Not sponsored by any rod company.
I actually love these rods. I don't fish tournaments. I have several and yes, some guides have been an issue but overall, I still love the rods. Fish on Bass Geek!
I really liked'em at first but the inserts came out over and over then every one broke.
Good review bud!
Thank you sir. I can't say how much that means coming from you. I have a lot of work to do and can get better but thank you so much!
I have numerous Veritas rods, both original and 2.0 models. Only one was a 2.0 micro guide and so far it's held up great for me. However, I don't fish as much as I would like and haven't fished a tournament in 3 years. So it's not like I have put it through the rigors in the past three years like others would have.
John Davis Mine May have been out of a bad batch ya never know.
I must be lucky, a few comments said they had the same issue as you. I have the spinning version of this rod (regular sized guides), and the original Veritos and never had an issue with the ceramics or guides. Wonder if they changed manufacturers for that version.
Thanks for watching. I haven't used the spinning rods however I have 2 standards and never had an issue with them. It's only the Micro guides that just suck to be honest.
I watched your review and had heard the same complaints about the guides. I like the light weight of the rod but, need to look elsewhere. Have you had success with other casting rod makes? Any guidance? Thx
Look at the Piscifun rods they are super cheap and made very well. I like the lews customs and custom plus rods. The Fitzgerald are great. Be sure to check out the Dobyns also.
Awesome video!
Thanks!
Great review
Hey man thanks. I really appreciate it!
I had a micro guide veritas.. HAD I agree with everything you said buddy good video
BassBulliesTV I'm not a fan of micro guides anyway but when the ceramics won't stay in or together I'm really not a fan.
Good review. What rod would you recommend in the $100 range? I have a Ducket and ST Croix bass x and have had good luck with both.
I like the Ducket even though they seem to be getting a bad rap lately. St. Croix's are good rods. I've been test the Sixgill's out. I like them even though they are on the stiff side of things. I just got in one of the Killer Bass Baits rods which has a lifetime warranty. I got it for 109. There are a lot of good options out there at that price range. Even some Bass Pro rods that I've had some good luck with.
awsome awsome video buddy...like the reviews.
Thank you. Did you catch the bonus footage at the end. If not check it out you will laugh.
camera fell in the water....lol...sorry. hope it's still good
Yeah it is I thought you would get a chuckle out of that.
I agree brother Cull it. You need to do a review on the Halo rods can't wait to see what you have to say about them.
Yes I do. I kinda forgot about them. hahaha Thank man.
no problem brother
Thanks for the info
Michael Spurlock Thanks for watching.
awesome video! I got some original Veritas rods and they haven't had any problems
Team Wagy yeah I have one original with standard guides and one 2.0 with standard guides and I can't say a bad word about them.
I have 3 of these rods no problems yet love them
Awesome it may have been a bad batch of micro guide eyes.
I have the veritas micro guided with Winn grips. I love it
I'm just not a micro guide guy. Now I'm sure whatever problem they were having with the guides they have fixed (I would hope) by now.
I'm actually quite surprised to hear the micro guides were bad. I actually have two of these rods with micro guides and one with standard and have fished them pretty dang hard the last yr or so. and have yet to have any issues. Perhaps I have gotten lucky with these two and they just happen to be the outliers of the buntch. However, after watching this video I will keep a close eye on them and will let yall know when if ever they do happen to fail.
Preston Rollins The standards are good. I haven't had an issue with them. If you do a search on the micro guides you'll find a lot of problems with the ceramics coming out. Now they may have solved that issue by now.
BassGeek I believe you 100% when you say the ceramics have been coming out because of how crappy they are. I don't deny that. what I'm saying is the ceramics on my rods haven't failed yet.... not saying the won't in the near future. I've just been lucky I suppose and was able to get a good batch. With that being said what are your recommendations for having them replaced when they do fall out which guides do you prefer them being replaced with. I only ask to know for when they do fall out I can have them replaced cuz I really do enjoy these rodes.
Preston Rollins I got ya. Your rods maybe a year newer than mine. I hope Abu heard all the rumblings and solved the issue. Everything. I purchase guides from MudHole. Normally the medium grades are great. You may not have to worry about it however. Like I said sounds like yours might be a touch newer than the ones I had.
BassGeek I appreciate the help and thank you very much for the info.
Preston Rollins Anytime that's what I'm here for!
How do you know if its a good guide by looking at it? For when I am checking out rods at the store...
Unfortunately it's a buy it and try it thing. The biggest problem I had was the ceramics coming out or breaking on these rods. Yes they do have some sort of warranty but I needed those rods so I couldn't wait to ship it to them and then wait to get it or another back. It sucked for me.
Just had this happen on my 1 year old veritas probably because I protect it well initially. 12 hrs after buying using a vendetta in a tournament the this happened. I am wondering if putting nail polish on might be a solution rather than replacing the whole eye?
Pro 198 If you have the ceramic some superglue will work also.
Im looking for a good sensitive medium rod. I cant seem to find any. Everything in this price range is MH. Any recommendations? Rod alone or even a combo. would be much appreciated
Man it is very hard to find a good Med in that price range. On Tackle Warehouse The Lew's TP-1 for 100 buck and the Lew's american Hero for under 100 are really great. The BassPro Titanium 8 is 99 bucks and It's one of my favorite jerkbait rods the Bass pro Pro quantifier and look up the Piscifun Rods they really are amazing for under 100.
Keep doin more Keep or Kill/Cull LOL !! great stuff brother
Thanks
I have this rod and never had any issues with it yet but my ProMax I have some guide issues and had to replace some of them.
I did a quick and dirty how to replace guides video but hated it and took it down. I need to try and redo that.
Nice review.
Thank you a ton sir!
I'm glad I wasn't the only one having problem with the guides this rod is also tarable for rapala xraps no matter the size
Yeah I have several that are broke they just aren't right for me I guess.
What is your favorite topwater rod 7’ was gonna go with veritas but have heard about a lot breaking.
Josh Sherrod Every one I’ve owned has broke other than the Arig rod. It just depends on what your throwing and the size.
Never owned a Rod with the Micro guides all mine is standard guides call me old fashion but if it isn't broken dont fix it. Another good one man Thumbs up
Thank you sir.
I ha have micro guide falcon...love rod hate the guides bend too easy.
I never had guide issues with Abu Garcia blackmax rods or the silvermax rods. It could be the manufacturing location is different which accounts for the quality.
Did you know that fish can see a white color rod? Dark grey or black is best.
It may have been a bad batch of eye's. I don't know if they buy them or make them but I've seen problems like that before.
no issues here with my veritas micro. I also use a fluro leader with an fg knot that constantly runs through the guides. I don't throw my rods around though
Whuckfisle I don't throw them around. I've got rods I've had for 15yrs. Not these.
I have the 73 MH too and i have had one of the ceramic pieces fall out too.
I feel your pain let me tell ya. Thanks for watching.
i have a bunch of these rods and one just like this one, and i agree i have lost so many guides on mine
The Standard guide is great I just don't get what the deal is with the Micro guides. I have several Micro guide rods and I haven't had any issue with those. Thanks for watching.
BassGeek not trying to be a dick but how many times you step on those rods? the only time i have broken abu guides was stepping on it
Bert236 haven't but again I'm talking about the ceramics on the micro guides. Not the standard guides. Unfortunately if you look there are several videos and forums where people complain about this problem.
BassGeek just checking like i said wasnt trying to be a dick or call you out. i checked out some other reviews after and saw other guys saying the same thing. its a shame was thinking about getting one. using a okuma tcs series rod now and love it just cant commit to spending that much on another rod right now
Bert236 I Didn't take it that way. I have the standard guide rods and I haven't had any problems with them so just stick with the standard guides and I think you should be ok.
I have this rod in the standard. I don't care much for micro guides, it's a personal preference I guess. I use mine for throwing my soft plastics.
Thanks I have other brands with the Micros and I don't have any trouble with them. Over all I'm with you though I'm not a micro guide guy.
John's Fish Tales How did it do throwing soft plastics?
My st.croix mojo bass Rod did the same s*** with the line guides good info buddy and I don't know what happened I seen you comment on my video but your comment not showing up now idk what's going on I just Red it in the email them Go Pro 5 are touchy but I like the quality of the camera I think they just need to come out with an update to fix all the little bugs and the camera be great again I'm excited because I get to use different camera views this year
TH-cams comments have been crazy. There's times when I scroll to the bottom of the page and click load comments it just says can't load. Check for in your spam.
Wish I would've saw this before I bought mine today lol I hope I don't have that problem. I fished it once and the handle locks down the reel or it's supposed to. I caught a 4 pounder on it and it felt like the reel wanted to pop off. I'm gonna take it back
This video is older so they may have fixed the ceramics in the eye's now. Good luck.
nice video!
Thank you sir.
this video helped a lot. i am looking for a great Abu Garcia rod under $100 that i can use for crankbaits and jerkbaits. I need help on picking the right rod. Is this rod worth it? i am in high school bass tournaments and lost my other crank bait rod. so again, should i buy this rod for crank baits or should i keep looking. i would appreciate the help. if this is not the right rod, then what is?
Well I bought 4 of these in both the standard and the micro guides and I'm down to 1 that hasn't broke and none that I haven't had to replace a guide. Look at the Bass pro cranking sticks.
BassGeek thank you so much. Appreciate it!
Definitely a keep in my opinion. I have 4 of them. Especially since they have dropped the price even more now. You can find them now between $59.99 and $79.99 depending on the store. Well worth that price.
Sorry man. Not the 2.0 Micros! If I have to keep replacing guides it quickly becomes less of a deal. I have to have a dependable product during tournaments. Even more important as a co-angler because we have less equipment to work with. Thanks for watching!
I was talking about the standard guide rods. I don't have any micro guide rods, not much of a fan of those.
Loadin' Up Outdoors AHHHH got ya brother. Your absolutely right then. I would even go as far as saying dollar for dollar the "standard" guide version is better than 70% of the rods at the 130 price point and even some at the 150 price point.
I broke 2 about 12in down from the tip. I love the reel seats
That's just where the Med. 7ft broke for me. Thanks for watching.
maybe it's better for cleaner lakes and not Georgia rivers and thick cover
I fish a ton of clear water and it still ain't worth a fart. lol
good review. I only use St Croix rods. Mojo bass and avid x.
I have some St. Croix spinning rods and I'll have to say those things have held up to the test. Not as light or sensitive as I would like but they are 5-6yrs old. Thanks
i bought a veritas and it has a slight bend close to the tip. should i return it or is that normal?
Most rods have a slight bend toward the backbone of the blank but that should be over the whole rod. I would compare it to other veritas and then decide.
Does it have the same problem with the regular guide sizes
I didn't have the same problem with the standard guides.
Are the standard guides any better?
Joey Urick Yes I’ve had much better luck
I just bought a micro guid on today, what do you think do you think they fixed it or should I return it
One I mean
I've not heard as many people complain about them lately. I would make sure I contacted filled out any warranty info and hung on to the receipt.
BassGeek ok thanks
I own several veritas rods. I love. Have not had any issue with mine at all. Even my vengences dont give me an issue. Yes i do tournament fish and fish for fun. I think you just got a bad 1 or something. But thats your opinion this is mine. Keep fishing.
I got mine when they first come out there was a big problem with the eye’s lots of chatter about them. They may have fixed the issue. It was 5 rod however they also all broke within a year
Ah Man! I have the 7' M, 7' MH, 7'3" MH, 7' H, 7'9" H (Standard size Casting) & 7' M spinning. I've had the majority of them for a year, maybe longer on two of them. Sucks to hear you had problems with them. Currently I haven't had a single problem, but I'll definitely be checking my guides tomorrow morning. Thanks for sharing.
Keep It Bent! Thanks for watching. It seems to only be a problem with the micro guides. I have 2 standard guides and haven't had the first issue.
BassGeek Well it's good to hear those ones are atleast holding strong. Thxs for replying.
I like these vids I'm a big abu user but never tried those rods don't think I'm going to either lol
Yeah I can't say enough about the stuff abu makes. 99% is just unbelievably good but not the micro guides.
Any opinions on the veritas 2.0 spinning rod?
I haven't used'em but I have not heard anything bad about them. Like I said the Standard guides that I have are great.
I’m a pretty thick n through Abu guy I have three vengeance rods, three veritas 2.0 and two villain 2.0 rods and I’ve never had a problem never lost guides never broke a rod. I appreciate your review but don’t totally agree. I’ve ripped 4,5,6 lb large mouth out of big grass patches and these rods haven’t once failed me.
Brandon Hatch Wish I could say the same. I have 5 in the corner behind my chair right now. All broke within a year and a half. Thanks for the input. I haven’t tried the vengeance yet. I love abu. Just not the veritas series.
BassGeek the vengeance series is a pretty cheap rod they’re not bad but they don’t hold a candle to the villain or any high end rod. Maybe it was a micro guide issue. My veritas vengeance are all normal guides. My villain 2.0 rods are both micro no issues yet. Fingers crossed haha. Big Abu fan as well. Love the channel got a lot of good input on your jig episodes thanks🤙
I’ve been fishing two of these. HARD. But i got them when they first hit the shelves. I’ve never had a problem with the rod guides. I think the production quality just went to crap.
sforti01 I think your right. I have one of first runs it’s still going. Bought 5 of the 2.0’s they all broke in one way or the other over the first year I owned them.
So many people say they have all kinds of problems with the guides on these rods. I’ve owned these rods for a long time still buy the veritas all the time. I’ve yet to have a problem with a veritas. Most of the people that has a problem with them are the knuckle heads that beat the hell out of them without rod socks while in a rod locker
Nope just feel out constantly. Hell if I have to baby a rod it can’t hold up to everyday fishing then it’s junk.
@@BassGeek I agree with you sir. That’s the way I felt about quantum’s line up years ago. But I honestly never had a problem with any of my veritas rods
How is the sensitivity compared to the bass pro c lite 2.0?
I like the Carbon Lite's. I had one (until a boater broke it during a tournament) and to this day it was my favorite jerkbait rod. The Veritas rods are soft over all and which dulls feel in my book. That's just my opinion.
BassGeek thx!
keep doing the keep or cull
Thank you and if you have anything you want me to review let me know!
I own one and I love it , Abu Garcia will send u a new rod and let u keep the old one customer service is on spot with them
Addicted Angler Is it a micro guide? That's the biggest complaint I have the micro guide ceramics will not stay in. Thanks for the info most companies want you to send it back.
yes the micro giude, I'm careless keep hitting it in my car it broke
Just got one today
Maybe they improved the manufacturing process.
im considering buying the newer veritas
Hopfully they have solved the problems. I would say so by now.
Yeah
My MH 7ft lost the ceramic in the tip and ruined my line and made for a rough weekend on the lake.
They are bad for it.
You probably got a rod already but i really like the Berkley lightning rod 7ft m/h as a budget choice. The fenwick eagle is a solid rod around $100 as well.
I liked this video
Ajdizzle4rizzle awesome thank you!
I had the same problem the guides are junk,culled mine also,and went back to the old faithful St.Croix
I do like St. Croix. Thanks for sharing your experience.
did you replace the guides.
shonnell white Thanks and yes I did. I know they have a warranty on them but I couldn't wait to send them mine and they send me another I was in the middle of tournament season. I had to replace them as it happened. I replaced them with some I ordered from mud hole Tackle.
Just ordered some of the veritas ltd’s anyone have any experience with em?
I don't sorry.
I have for veritas rods and three have had guides have broke
Seems like they need to do a recall. hahahaThanks
I have the same problems with micro guides
Sorry man wish I had done this before you bought them.
a rod with a good blank and good parts was the 2 main points of a good fishing rod.but now there is the 3rd point and that is "cosmetics".the $100 was used to cover the blank and the parts but now they must save some from that $100 for the cosmetics or it wont sell.so now the first point to sell a rod is to have a good cosmetics.and after that they choose which one to sacrifice,the blank or the guides/parts cos $100 wont cover all 3 points.
with the growing number of custom rod builders everywhere,then its wise to sacrifice the guides cos they think you can repair or upgrade them more easily with a wide range of options & price point from oxide to torzite (fuji) for example.
well,those rods are not made mainly to help anglers,they are made based on how much they will make profit for the companies/brand holder.
Reon Sc Yup junk hahaha
Well dang, I just bought one of these.
Robert Brandywine As long as it’s a standard guide your good
@@BassGeek I've read about 1.0, 2.0, and 3.0 Veritas Rods. I don't know which I bought but probably the 3.0 because it has smaller than normal rod guides. When the 2.0 was introduced, the Abu Garcia product manager spoke about their micro guide series. Their website doesn't show a micro guide series, for the spinning rods at least, so they must have dropped the regular guides and only make the rods with these micro guides.
Robert Brandywine I didn’t have any problems with the spinning rods. Keep us posted however
@@BassGeek I will, for sure.
@@BassGeek Well I exchanged this for a Dobyns Sierra Series Spinning Rod. The Veritas I ordered was a MH but it felt like a heavy, so was no good to me. I hope Dobyns gets it right.
Are comments working?
TH-cam has had some glitches with comments lately but I got ya.
I use the standard guide 7'3" MH.. it's been great to me for a year caught plenty of fish with it. it's my jig and texas rig rod but I have had to throw frogs with it, it's very sensitive and powerful. that sucks you had a bad experience with the micro guide series. I'll stay away from those
David T Yeah It's only the ceramics of the micro guides. I have 2 of the standards and they have been great!
Never have liked the abu rods personally. Just wasn't a good fit for me, so I'd agree with this cull lol
I get that. Thanks for watching.
so standard guide is the way to go! i dont like micros on anything
Buckshot Buddy Yup this standard guides have held up better.
I'm finally back
Nice to have ya back.
I just picked one up. Regular guides. I might switch them out
Tylor Pollard The only one that lasted was regular guides
@@BassGeek okay. But I got mine from simone. Looked like it has never been used
Tylor Pollard I think that one should be good
Dang it I need a rod that's 6 10 but I don't want my guides being trash I thought I finally found my skipping rod but nope
JJ Kin I’ve been using a Halo 7ft heavy and it’s super nice.
BassGeek I have been looking at halos daylite, but I think I'm gonna try the major craft nanoace 6 9 medium heavy I'm looking for more of a snappy tip and this major craft is quite enticing wondering if you've heard anything about it? I grabbed a dobyns colt which is ridiculous for the price in a 7 3 heavy for jigs fishing and skipping heavier jigs.
Remember when u said I could have some tackle
Aaron Langford Just so happens I've got something for ya.
Arron please send me an email. Look under my "About" section for the address. Thanks!
All my rods are the veritas. Use the micro guides on a couple. Honestly do not see a difference between them and the regular guides. I've never had an issue with any of the 5 I own. I fish quite frequently so they've been through a lot. Sorry to hear you don't like them.
J S Thanks but it happens. It may have bee the batch that mine was in I just had my jig rod break during a hookset this weekend. I bought all of them when they first came out so maybe they have the kinks worked out now.
BassGeek hopefully. I think they have some new models coming out this year. You use what works for ya. Tight lines brotha.
I absoltly disagree, Its a keep for me all the way it os only 75 bucks and i have never had any problems with the guides at all also has a soft tip with a great back bone
FishingupstateNY Happy your happy with them. Is your the micro guide casting rods?
👍🎣
Nice
I always thought micro guides was a marketing gimmick. Every year there is something new out there. That's how they make their money. Now, saying that, I have a friend that claims micro guides are better. I don't think he can tell the difference, but he says the manufactures tested them and claim they can cast farther. Of course, that's how they make their money . . oh wait . . I already said that . . uhhh . . .never mind.
I'm not a fan. If I like a rod and it has'em oh well but I prefer standard.
Why toss it, send it this way!
It's gone.
I hate micro guides. I've had 2 and the guides always fell apart
Yup. I love these rods but it's standard guides only from here on in for me.
thank you you saved me money. I didn't buy the thanks to your review.
I like the standard guides but the micro guides just won't stay in.
Awesome video, subscribed! Check out my first video when you have a chance!
Thanks and I sure will.
Good review! I just subbed, check my page out if you have a chance. Tight lines!
BTW... I had looked at this rod a ton and the guides scared me. I'm rough on my rods and this is certainly going to save me.
Fishing With Jamie I have 2 standard guides and they have been great. The 2 micro guides however have been anything but great. The ceramics just break or fall out constantly. I've super glued them in and replaced them on the water but in the end I really shouldn't have to.
yeah, I don't like dropping $100 and the gear itself breaks with no fault of my own. I can handle it if I broke it, but someone else... no bueno.
Maybe you just don’t take care of your stuff. Maybe that’s why they are “simply crap”
Maybe the ceramics shouldn't fall out the first day on the water. Maybe every one of these I've owned has broke. Oh and maybe I have rods that are 18yrs old that I bought at Walmart for 15 bucks that lasted longer than these POS's. Rods that are older than you...
BassGeek haha 😂 na man I’m just joking!
That’s pretty stupid!
I swear the crap ones are way better aye! 😂
They have great action and so light. I loved'em when I first got'em. Then in the first tournament I fished I had the ceramics start coming out of the micro guides. I was really disappointed. I love Abu stuff.
BassGeek yeah that sucks. I was looking into getting one until this.
What kinda rod would you recommend that’s pretty close to this?
To be honest I don't know. I've been testing a lot of different rods in that price range this year. SixGill is tough but they seem very stiff. Halo makes some good rods with a great warranty around the 100 dollar rang. I've got some rod review videos coming out over the next few months. The Lower end Abu is a nice rod. I actually like it better than the Veritas. I don't remember the name.