Visualizing ICM in Poker

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    Win more poker tournaments by understanding ICM on a fundamental level! This video demonstrates an intuitive method to visualize how risk premium impacts your poker strategy.
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    0:00 - Introduction
    4:30 - Visualizing ICM
    7:30 - How payouts affect ICM
    12:18 - How stacks affect ICM
    18:49 - Ex. 1 - Comparing ICM to cEV
    25:11 - Ex. 2 - 3max Mid Stack
    30:20 - Ex. 3 - Opening 60% of your stack
    36:54 - Ex 4 - Player vs player risk premium
    41:02 - Ex 5. - 4max short/mid/big stack adjustments
    48:00 - Ex 6. - Comparing CO opening ranges
    51:29 - Main takeaways

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  • @GTOWizard
    @GTOWizard  ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Did you learn something new in this video? What are your best ICM tips? Let us know down below!

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      @saradanilo4062 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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    • @GTOWizard
      @GTOWizard  ปีที่แล้ว +1

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    • @goodfeller2451
      @goodfeller2451 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      thx tombos. Learned still alot!

  • @wanderleicardoso7315
    @wanderleicardoso7315 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Excellent explanation. Best class I've ever seen about it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @KimiiiRaikkonen
    @KimiiiRaikkonen ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Extremely well made. I have so much to learn!. Would love to see what happens postflop aswell.
    I'm probably doing tons of mistakes in the mid stack portion, not knowing how icm affects me, I just play my cards. I'm very happy to have found you guys! Had Premium for 2 months, really happy with it! I recommend you guys to anyone who ask.. or don't ask for that matter.
    Would also be cool to know how to punish as a big stack postflop. And some side notes on how to adjust against players who don't know they are under icm pressure. Alot of live players in my local club don't know what icm is, and is not adjusting to stack sizes. How do you play big stack against them ? both pre and post..

  • @FCarraro1
    @FCarraro1 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    the 6 bb opening spot reminds me of something Negreanu explained in a Polk podcast when he saw a player opening at the final table for 33% of their stack explaining more or less the same concepts. ;)

    • @tonez4890
      @tonez4890 ปีที่แล้ว

      do you have a link to that

  • @Tom_Bee_
    @Tom_Bee_ ปีที่แล้ว +3

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      @eshka-tv-1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

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    @BenjaminK18335 ปีที่แล้ว +2

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    @tsunyinng1510 ปีที่แล้ว +3

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  • @qtamomusic7620
    @qtamomusic7620 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very nice video! In example 3, I think the reason 6 bb is better than shove is that you can still fold if the blinds both get it in. Otherwise it's functionally the same. And I would guess open limping would be generally better for button than minraising if it was added to the sim.

  • @Alexandertygreat
    @Alexandertygreat ปีที่แล้ว

    Great stuff again, i believe that most mtt crushers knew this without knowing it. I made every major online final table and won a ton of online mtts and a few live playing very loose aggro, my strategy was to make my opponents have to play as many streets as possible, i would make the best decision more often then they would. When most were jamming over raises, i was making smaller 3bets and picking up a ton of dead money to be able to fade allins later.

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    @DHpoker27 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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  • @ryanmandala
    @ryanmandala ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Thank you. Subbed!

  • @user-fn8em8qs2o
    @user-fn8em8qs2o ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great job!

  • @hikikomoriechi
    @hikikomoriechi ปีที่แล้ว +13

    In ex 3 if btn open 6bb and the other 2 shove, btn can fold a lot of hands actualy, thats way btn prefers to open 6bb instead of shoving

    • @FCarraro1
      @FCarraro1 ปีที่แล้ว

      indeed. I heard Negreanu talking about this in a podcast with Doug Polk explaining more or less the same concept

    • @GTOWizard
      @GTOWizard  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Good point! This line happens less than 1% of the time after we open, but it's great for us if SB gets knocked out and we can guarantee at least 2nd. I think there are multiple reasons behind this large opening strategy.

    • @qwertz12345654321
      @qwertz12345654321 ปีที่แล้ว

      The 1% of the time matters a lot. Many tournament pros have adapted this or a simlar strategy. Bencb talks about it regularly in his streams. They call it "all in but one" or something similar. EP benefits the most from this strategy since it happens more often that multiple players go all in behind.

  • @Alex-Bunin
    @Alex-Bunin ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Unreal good.

  • @HibiscusFlowerFC
    @HibiscusFlowerFC ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is way too good to be free. 😅

  • @jeremylarson6267
    @jeremylarson6267 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i only have 1 question, where do i find these 3 or 4 player tournaments?

  • @HibiscusFlowerFC
    @HibiscusFlowerFC ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can you do a video on the limitations of ICM? What are the other things to consider etc.?

  • @BigD751
    @BigD751 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the 6 is also genius because if sb shoves and bb calls then button can fold and sneak into 2nd

  • @Adam27X
    @Adam27X ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Instead of saying "~exponential" growth you could more accurately say "superlinear" growth. The exact rate of risk premium will depend on the scenario, perhaps it's quadratic, cubic, whatever. But with ICM it's always superlinear.

  • @b4passion
    @b4passion ปีที่แล้ว

    any advice/videos/charts for satellites? There seems to be a dearth of good modern satellite strategy these days online

    • @GTOWizard
      @GTOWizard  ปีที่แล้ว

      We recommend Holdem Resource Calculator for solving satellite spots!

  • @jorgenunes5199
    @jorgenunes5199 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    On the Example 3, After BTN Open 6BBs, If SB goes All-in, and BB goes All-in too. Do we have folds?

    • @GTOWizard
      @GTOWizard  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yes, in that case the BTN can get out of the way and potentially ladder

  • @qwertz12345654321
    @qwertz12345654321 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In Example 3: I was the most curious for the case when BTN opens 6 and SB and BB both shove. You didnt really explain the advantages of opening 6 vs 10. If BTN was rewally to call of all the time there would be no advantage

    • @qwertz12345654321
      @qwertz12345654321 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is actually a known concept that tournament players use called "all but one chip". Bencb talked about it often in streams

  • @user-dz8wx5tt8g
    @user-dz8wx5tt8g ปีที่แล้ว

    Why is there no marginal diminishing effect on the graph for the winning chip corresponding to the US dollar

  • @denniswilber7258
    @denniswilber7258 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is there a link to access the icm visualizer? TY

    • @GTOWizard
      @GTOWizard  ปีที่แล้ว

      In the description

  • @tehjoch
    @tehjoch ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video but 2 ads every 5 mins was kinda annoying

  • @lvzee
    @lvzee ปีที่แล้ว

    Opening intro misinforms saying “win more poker tournaments’ when reality is you’ll win fewer but with more cashes & higher ROI

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    @kasunharendra6968 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

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