When he's receiving the seedbed curses you can give him Seluvis' potion to curse him into a puppet for eternity and he starts whimpering in sheer terror... a fitting end.
@@Tokahontes Nah, condemning the many because of the indoctrination and atrocities of the few is just as bad as letting the world burn because a fire and a body stealing edgelord told you life wasn't worth living because of flimsy justifications.
@@Tokahontes You blame the king and his advisors, generals and knights, not all of the above and the peasants too my guy. It's like hating every Russian because their leaders started a war, while ignoring the fact that they can't speak against it because they will be arrested and likely tortured to death. you don't blame everyone when they too are trapped in the system.
@@Tokahontes Alas, indiscriminate suffering is what gave rise to the dung eater to begin with. More indiscriminate suffering won't change anything, except produce someone even worse. Maybe the Three Fingers are right after all.
My headcanon is that the only reason is that Dung Eater is basically a serial killer, carrying out his “work” in secret. He was obviously caught for something and imprisoned, but maybe the Order never had a full grasp on the extent of his crimes and didn’t want to know. Since the Roundtable Hold is basically a projection of the fortified manor in Leyndell, I think it’s also mostly safe to assume that his tidy collection of corpses were at least transported there post-Shattering and he could get away with it. Maybe he was hunting and defiling the citizens of Leyndell and that’s when he was caught. What Roderika tells us disturbed me personally, since it implies that he’s always surrounded by basically a maelstrom of souls crying out in unending agony.
Shabbir litterally genocided and damned a group and prisoned them away all on a tale. They also were cursed in some way, due to their nature of having the frenzy flame spells and mabey tried to said they were trying to burn the erdtree. They were reviled hunted killed and put away. Dung eater was a serial killer that was intheory hung and died. However came back to life due to his nature of being a tarnished. So his whole plan wasn't known and wasn't on a level as shibiri yet. However he'd have taken the place if his plan was further in motion.
Dungeater actually has unique face settings in his code. When used in the character creator you get this ugly, beady-eyed, pig nosed man which fits well with his personality and lore.
Dung Eater was the only character I wanted to kill in Elden Ring. There are lots of heinous characters in the game, but I always felt a sadness ending them. A cruel necessity to fixing the Lands Between. But when I freed Dung Eater in the sewer, and heard his ramblings of murder, defilement, and how he would kill again, I had a visceral reaction. In a game all about killing, I finally found someone I wanted dead. I fought him, barely surviving, and ended him there and then. It was the only time I felt the murder was just.
I know what the Golden Order did to the natives of the Lands Between. Those horn stumps he decorates his armor with were done to Omens children and is almostva garantee death sentence. The Dungster deserved his revenge.
@@dorkanderson4963 strange way to justify cold blooded murder of countless innocents. Those innocents, like the citizens of Leyndell, were as trapped in the system as the omen-kin held underground. Would you face a being like Godfrey or Radagon and tell them that their process is wrong? Would you stand up for the ones defiled by the golden order? Killing everybody because of the crimes of the few is wrong in any situation. I killed the dung eater after freeing him, too. I couldn’t let him go after hearing how excited he was to go murder and defile the corpses of all men, women, and children. A truly disgusting being.
@@dorkanderson4963 nah just cause that shot happened don't mean you murder hundreds of men, women, and children and curse them and their future decedent's
The omen are said to be haunted by some entity in their dreams. I have often thought that entity might be the dung eater. He is probably not responsible for every omen but you could imagine that those reborn from his defilement are traumatised by what created them. I wouldnt be surprised if the memory of him haunts them.
If you don’t buy prawn or crab from Boggart until AFTER you’ve finished Rya and the Dungeater’s questlines, you can save him since he doesn’t appear at the pond until after you do so!
We kinda know that the omen affliction can spread as we see omen horns on red albinaurics and Sanguine Nobles. The current dominant theory is that those enemies were infected because they drank or otherwise ingested Mohg blood. If that is the case it kinda shines a new light on why Dung Eater can be summon for Mohg, the Omen and Morgott boss fight. Dung Eater hunts down the omens because he needs their blood to defile the corpses of his victims. Interestingly enough the horned omens in the Leyndell Catacombs are capable of attacking the player with cursed spirits similarly to one of the Dunk Eaters attacks. It kinda implies that the omens themselves also eat souls of their victims.
Ironically by not giving two shakes about Boggart (Rya simp here) I ended up saving him xD I did turn Dung Eater into a puppet too though cause screw that guy.
Shabriri wants to destroy all world ans souls so they do not suffer. Dung Eater wants to make all people omens so discrimination of omens come to an end. Both are crazy, but the Dung Eater doesn't want apocalypse
I think the sunlight medallion on him ties him to solaire, but not by character, but rather by drive. Both dung eater and solaire are men obsessed with their goal, solaire to achieve his sun and the dung eater to his age of defilement. Solaire will go as far as to defile himself to achieve his sun (the sunlight maggots) where dung eater's obsession drives him to defile the entire world. Im sure from soft also wanted to toy with the idea of turning one of the most beloved character's symbol into a grotesque one
Its also interesting to consider that the Sunlight Medallion is of a figure beloved by all, but worn by someone who is utterly devolved away from understanding the beauty of the original concept. And if we're really going to get conspiracy theorising, well, Chris Chan did this with his Sonichu Medallion, and also ate feces.
@@TOUGHEYES The Dung Eater wears the symbol as a mockery of its meaning. What the fuck does this have to do with some subhuman waste of life in our world...?
What really Makes it delicious is Dungie isn’t like these other groups with massive armies or secret agendas or even powerful magic he’s literally just some weird guy who realized under the right conditions a person can be defiled to the point their ghost is fucking boned and the Elden Ring can be made to fuck everyone’s ghost.
or maybe its just a dung face with horns. who knows. i mean, one is obsessed with dung and the other with sun, its likely for them to carry their own specified symbol
Something about him saying, “Along with their children, and their childrens children for all time to come.” Really reminded me of blood borne. Maybe Dung eater ending leads to Bloodborne and not age of stars like everyone thinks.
I have a false memory about this but I think it would be really cool and more fitting in the end after the narrator says “the fallen leaves tell a story” the dung eater is the one speaking
Tbh this is what they should have done for all mending rune endings. Fias ending, fia speaking. Goldmasks ending, Corhyn speaking, Dungeaters ending, as mentioned above, dung eater speaking.
Yeah I appreciate the video for that! You can position yourself in his gaol cell in a way that you can look through his helmet. He looks kinda leonine.
@@square-table-gaming Cheers Mate! 🍻 Always top notch art and Lore in every ep. of Elden Lore. Prob sounds grandure, but this would make for a great Netflix series.
I found it hard to ignore Dung Eater's comically-sized Sunlight Covenant medallion. I'm not trying to make some tinfoil stretch to say he's Solaire reborn, but I do think Miyazaki and FS like to play with their own symbology. They've taken great pains to make the Dung Eater the most vile and revolting character in any of their games, but instead of a boss they made him an NPC which the player must take great pains to develop. To me, in a metatextual way the Seedbed Curse mirrors the way players interact with NPCs across these games: reviving them with each playthrough, toying with their fates over and over, summoning them for bosses or to obtain loot and then casting them aside. Feels like Solaire got sick of it and wants to turn off the cooling fan on your Playstation
Melina doesn't like it when you come in contact with Three Fingers, but she doesn't care when you use the Dung Eater rune that will curse all lives to come, or the Fia rune that will warp life itself, I hope it was intentional on the developers' part, so they can better clarify things in possible future DLCs. Also want a Marika, Melina, Ranni boss fight
To me, this is prefectly consistent with what Melina says about life. She says that any path *other* than the one that leads to the Frenzied Flame is one that will sustain life. "Births will continue" she says, as a self-evident good. In Melina's view, the Dung Eater's vision of the future is acceptable because it doesn't halt the process of births or end the existence of life. Even if that life is cursed, it doesn't matter (although if everyone is cursed, then surely no one is? and if the Golden Order is gone, will it even be considered a curse?)
@@ooccttoo being Omen or having Crucible aspects was a Curse for the Golden order, before that It was a blessing We can create an order in which Is the norm
@@ooccttooShe is clearly biased. The Frenzied Flame will restart the world. She is worried about holding on to her little bit of power in this fucked up twisted world. Considering she is implied to be related to the Golden Order. You know the golden order. The ones who fucked this world up in the first place.
@@ooccttoo The thing is that Melina still wants the status quo, the erdtree, to remain. If you up-end order rather than distorting it, she gets buttmad. Also there's lore pointing towards birth halting such as those harpy-looking things singing about not being able to have children anymore. The only kind of "birth" is remains being shoveled into a jar.
This makes me hope for a time travel DLC that gives a new “Primordial Crucible” Ending. Where you can use a mending rune to regress the world to an era before the Erdtree
I read an interesting theory recently that the Dung Eater may have been a crusader who returned from the land of shadow, explaining that as his connection to the omen as well as the striking resemblance of his medallion to a furnace visage.
I honestly think though the defilement part is certainly abhorrent, his goal is kind of a noble one. Discrimination towards the omens is awful in the game's world. The perfumers would try to cut off baby's horns to prevent the curse from affecting them but most babies die from the procedure. And the ones that survive still get affected by the curse anyway. So some perfumers gave up and decided the only way to ease their pain is to just kill them. So they drink potions that take away their emotions and became "omen killers". All that because marika took away death from the elden ring and the omens blessed by the crusible now are haunted by the restless souls that want to be reborn through the erdtree rather than just die and move on like old times. Now they're not just haunted but also hunted and reviled by all those who follow the golden order. If the rebirths stopped and everyone became an omen they'd stop being haunted and having nightmares and the discrimination would stop because everyone is an omen now.
The dung eater has an interesting quote "you are infact, me, and i am the dung eater" The dung eater isnt a name, its a title. Everyone is a dung eater to some extent. Whether it be for good or for evil, we're all dung eaters for something we believe in.
He is no friend to the omen, his armour purposefully has all the horns cut off and is caked in blood and rust. My guess is that the omen are the 'blessed cursed' and the majority of his curse is something far more vile and twisted.
Oh we're still going to make elden lore for all kinds of characters. Basically the music will go back to the original bgm unless people want us to experiment more with that.
@@square-table-gaming Most things in this game is creepy anyway. You walk around any castle or dungeon & you will atleast see some Pile of corpses or dried bones. It's the most normal thing. Creepy music fits perfectly.
Honestly I think the dung eater does care but due to over the years of defiling people most likely abandoned his original goal and focus more satisfying himself then bring a new age to the land between.🤔🐱
But then...you came along. You rekindled his drive to overturn the order. The player is the one who gave him his purpose back, and made him realize he had to be defiled himself to see his goal attained
I've done a few playthroughs just to test stuff, on one of these playthroughs I didn't do any of Boggart's quest line; he still ended up dead by Dungys' hands.
2 things. 1, Poor Blackguard Big Boggart, (one of my favorite npcs) him talking about being frozen with fear as his friend was mutilated and cannibalized was honestly just quite sad, he’s such an endearing character and honestly doesn’t deserve fucked up shit like that. 2. The organ he mentioned in the video is (presumably) the liver. Here in America, the heart is claimed to hold the soul, whereas in Japan, the liver contains the soul
Dear God, you mean he digs way up in there to curse people?! Is that why he dies when you give him the seed bed cures?! God, that is sick and disgusting, in a twisted cool way.
_The shirikodama is a mysterious organ said to reside in the human colon, and kappa love to extract them from unwary swimmers the hard way: by hand. Or claw." Matt tells me that in times of old kappa were often blamed for drownings. It wasn't uncommon for drowned bodies to be found with prolapsed anuses._ The *shirikodama* , according to japanese folklore, is housed within the anus. It might be a hint as to why he is called the "Loathsome Dung Eater."
I think he just does the curse as his trademark. I never really thought he had a reason to do what he did except for fun. He really is a creepy character but has such a badass voice.
Correct! Your soul lives in him until you become part of his mending rune. Then if his rune is used you come back as an omen, broken from the rebirth cycle
This video is definitely the best dung eater video I've seen. I've watched many videos and still didn't fully understand what the curse was, but this video explained it extremely well.
I think people keep misunderstanding one thing: none of the endings, except maybe the frenzy one, have you break the Greater Wills holds on the Lands Between. The Erdtree is not what binds the lands to the Greater Will, the Elden Rings itself is and all the ending have you repair the ring in one way or another. All you do is establish a new order that still serves under the Greater Will, even in the Ranni ending you just have Ranni replace Marika as the vassal god. Again all ending except maybe the Frenzy one, that one I'm not sure of.
All the Endding of mending the Rune establish a new order under the Greater Will except Ranni's one's as she keep all outer worlds influences out of the Land between with her dark moon and Frenzy's one because, well you destroy everything.
@@Sir-Pleiades Outer gods are called outer because they are outside the scope of the current order not because they are from outer space. In Ranni's ending, what you do is set her up as a new vassal god to the Greater Will, basically just replacing Marika. There were other vassal gods before Marika, like the dragon god that Placidusax was the elden lord to, but they still served the Greater Will, since they also used the Elden Ring. It's kinda hard to explain, but basically, in the original japanese version the Greater Will is talked about as a higher power, like the biblical God, but outer gods are basically lesser gods, like gods of specific aspects of nature. All the outer gods mentioned in the story are outer because they are connected to death in one way or another, and the Golden Order was created when Marika removed the concept of death from the world.
The dung eater and his ending make my blood boil to the highest point but the means it is unlocked even his screams cannot sooth my anger and hatred for this character
After playing the DLC, I wonder if he was an agent or sympathizer of the Hornsent, bringing a revenge against the Golden Order and Marika for the Genocide they endured.
During the intro I laughed my ass off when they mentioned "The loathsome Dung Eater". Such a great twist to have him be the absolute most evil person in the game, dude was a fucking menace.
In the current patch (1.08.1), there is a bug with the Dung Eater. It let you get double loot when killing Dung Eater by performinng certain steps: Kill him in the sewer gaol upon first interaction - dont pick up the loot - teleport back to the nearest site of grace - go back to the gaol - pick up the double loot.
I don't think the Dung Eater should be considered the most evil character in Elden Ring, his goal was at least somewhat noble, since he believes being an omen is a blessing and wants to give it to everybody, even if his methods are cruel. There is Godrick, who is a selfish man who does not care about killing and dismembering people only to become stronger, there is Mogh, whose only motivation is pure hatred and does not care about his followers, only about his dinasty coming to power, as some kind of revenge against those who imprisoned him, but I think the worst would be Shabriri, since his goal is to literally burn down and kill everything, and making the world suffer while everything dies, since the people afflicted by madness do not seem to be having a lot of fun. Although Shabriri also has a justification for what he does, he literally wants to bring the apocalypse purposefully
haha I had no idea there was more to this guy's story. I met him in the keep, found him in the sewers, spoke with him and was like, bro this guy's gotta go. Took him out and read the item descriptions. But it's pretty chilling now knowing the rest of the story!
Correction, marika is pretty flipping evil too... How many of her children became souless demigods, how many destines destroyed, How many people has that one numen thrown under the bus to ultimately create an age of stagnation and eternal suffering. Marika is literally the most evil character in the series and i cant wait to find out what broke her.
what if seedbed is actually testicles. Seed is a synonym for sperm. Seed/sperm is stored in the balls. The sitting position of the corpses, their legs bound to the chair, blood stained cloth position and the seedbed curse model (vaguely looks like conjoined balls) suggests that way too. Probably after defilement he eats the shirikodama to house the defiled soul in his own body. So when the souls are reborn after using his mending rune, they will have cursed balls and the curse will be passed down from generation to generation
"..who is the most evil character we encounter in Elden Ring, there is only one true answer." Yes. And it is Shabriri. Dung Eater is a VERY close second though.
Eh Shabriri is pushing for the 3 fingers and the 3 want all life to return to one because it will end suffering. The 3 ending is essentially a giant reset button breaking all of existence down into one again. This is how everything was in the beggining and there is no reason the Greater Will "the only true god" couldn't make life again. The 3 fingers and the 2 are ying and yang. Order and chaos, both are good and bad and neither can exist without the other. That's why together they create a complete hand.
@@brandonvallier4214 Yes you are right, but also wrong. Order and Chaos are two sides of the same coin and the delicate balance of the two is what can bring Peace in the lands between. That is what us players know but not the NPCs. One can not live without the other but each will do its damnest to get on the top because each is absoly sure to be in the Right. So, the frenzied flame ending is just Chaos taking over the lands between instead of Order.
I was just thinking about this myself. Lore wise, Shabriri is the most hated, but you never really get to see that. Sure he pops up in a dead body, but there's no real build up to it. When you first hear him, he's plea to spare the maiden's life seems very sound. We don't get to see just how loathsome he actually is. But with Dung Eater, we actively see it, experience it. We follow his quest line and see the horrors first hand. To us, he would be the most hated of the NPCs purely because we only get to see Shabriri once and he really doesn't do anything. Only by the lore of the world and the cut content do we know how evil he really is.
"Our most precious stone, cast forth upon the dunghill, being most dear, is made the vilest of vile." - An Alchemical Poem. Take it for what you wish when it comes to the lore.
Dung eater creates the dark soul, in essence. Once the order is broken at the end of time, and the dark soul has all of humanity within it, it becomes a God in its own right. As the cold returns and time starts over again, the world is left in a state of rock, and dragon. Deep within the roots of the world, the lingering heat of lords keeps a tiny flame burning. This tiny flame is found by the few wretched entities remaining, and they become lords of the new world. And all the humanity of the lands between has now become the dark soul, waiting for the pygmy to take it up, and bring humanity back to the cosmos. And that too, at the end of time, will be sopped up by Gael, and vomited into a new, black and cold world with a hint of flame at its very bottom. And all the while, the living cosmos tries to escape the universe it has been trapped within, now unable to bear children, by dreaming a new one. A new dream of hunters, blood, and the infinite curse of beasts and humanity. Ironically, the only soul to ever escape this, is the one name named "the bearer of the curse."
You neglected to mention what the order had done to the omens killing them and removing the horns of those born from their nobles locking them up in the dungeons. In my pov the dung eater's motivation is quite understandable, he's forcing members of the system that destroyed him and his kin to conform to his existance to be forever binded to him and his path. It's not even revenge at that point it become a way of life and thr meaning of existance itself after what he has been subjected to. Another soul wronged by the order.
TLDR; Shabriri is more evil than the Dung Eater. The twin themes of Elden Ring are the futility of the quest for immortality, and the inevitable consequences when advanced power meddle in the development of less advanced peoples. Whoever gathered together the motley assembly in the Roundtable Hold (be it Ranni or even Queen Marika herself) wanted no stone unturned, no options off the table. The aim was either to fix the mess that the Great Will (and its vassals) had made of the Lands Between, or sever the connection. The goals of Ranni, Fia and the Dung Eater are to leave the Greater Will’s machinery powerless over the world's inhabitants. Ranni’s methods are heroic, the Dung Eater’s vile, and Fia’s somewhere in between. Goldmask’s arrogance is that he can achieve the Greater Will’s aims better than the Greater Will himself, and the default non-quest ending is even less impressive, perpetuating the current, shoddy state. But I would argue that Shabriri’s is by far the greatest evil of all, since his goal is the unmaking all of creation, permanently killing all who have ever been born, and preventing any more souls from being born.
Don't you dare talk about my boy gold mask like that, my guy outsmarted the greater wills just by t-posing, his ending isn't called perfect order for nothing.
In the intro they show a picture of him being hanged and it looks like they're throwing crap at him (literally). I always assumed this is how he got his name. They threw manure at his face and called him the "dungeater" to shame him.
I believe it's the reverse. He's the dung eater because of the horrific act of eating souls which FromSoft depicts as coming from your behind. Because of his name they threw dung at him when he was strung up.
The duskborn ending to me is putting things back to their natural cycle, even the frenzied flame is at least putting an end to everything so it can hopefully start anew. Dung eater wants everyone to suffer forever. I’m afraid to condone that even in a video game
but what matters is your reign, and your reign will break the endless cycle of corruption. yes, everyone will become an omen, but the Erdtree will die and everyone can live without the reign of the corrupted gods
I always thought that the Primordial Crucible is something sentient, maybe even an Outer God. Dung Eater is to it what Shabriri is for the Flame of Chaos.
There's also the out-there theory that the Formless Mother that Mohg worships *is* the Crucible, or perhaps the Outer God responsible for it. We know that Omens used to be regarded as sacred back in the age of the Crucible, Omen blood is important to the Formless Mother, and Dung Eater is trying to create as many new Omens as he can, believing it's his great destiny. Maybe this is all the Crucible trying to take control of the Lands Between back from the Greater Will, by both spreading her influence as far as possible, as well as having a new world order, the Mohgwyn Dynasty, ready to replace the Golden Order.
Not sure, the crucible was most likely just the order which proceeded Marikas golden order. Shabriri also seems to be some kind of avatar for the flame of frenzy, while dung eater is just a simple tarnished, even if he is the closest thing to the champion for the crucible there is.
Unrelated, but I listened to this before I fought Godfrey for the first time a few minutes ago. I beat him first try! My heart was beating so fast and hard after I was finished!
One thing i think you shouldve mentioned us that the dung eater also has a line that goes something like "the golden order will get what it deserves one day" after youve given him one or two seedbed curses. I think his lines change based on how much pain hes in. But he has some weird motivations.
Thank you! I sincerely love his content but I agree with you. As beautiful as his new videos are, they tend to dance around the main ideas until finally presenting them.
He’s one of my favorite characters, and I think has one of the best endings, everyone will be cursed. No discrimination on who is “tarnished” and “noble” no more golden order sticking the omen into sewers which are absolutely terrifying. No more discrimination, between misbegotten, just cursed.
@@bigboncho Inflicting the entire world and future generations with a horrible curse sounds pretty evil to me, and let's not forget the murder and defiling of innocents to achieve it
Right it’s like if people with no legs were ridiculed and mistreated I’m still not going to help you amputate the legs of every child ever born from here on out
Surprised you didn't cover the alternate option of turning the dung eater into your loathsome puppet. That's my preference and while it's a hassle to sidetrack Ranni's quest, it's worth it to enslave this rotten character. Doesn't hurt he's a bad ass summon to have on your side.
He is a great summon but it basically just cuts off his storyline altogether so when you're talking about the story of the dung eater it's kind of anti climactic
@@square-table-gaming That's a fair assessment for the purpose of this video but I still thought it was worth a mention. Appreciate the response and fwiw, I've really enjoyed your work with Eldon Ring. Thanks.
Congrats on the final spooky vid! I'll admit this video's Myuu song, "Cursed Stories" was one that took a moment to recall. Good choice, per usual, since Dung Eaters story is all about Seedbed Curses. I'm guessing the usual bgm will be returning next month? The thing that I found interesting is how his final words are very similar in wording to the Hamlet's curse upon the Hunters of Bloodborne. They both curse "...Their children. And their children's children too." "Curse the fiends, their children too. And their children forever true."
So in theory, does that mean that the only way to save the souls trapped in the dung-eater would be to do his ending? Because, since he's a tarnished, if you don't do his ending and kill him he'll just be reborn with the souls still inside of him.
Not necessarily, tarnish that no longer see grace can die and return to the earth tree. Technically the best way to go about ending the dog eaters quest is to just straight up kill him because that would send his soul along with all the ones he has eaten back to the Erdtree
A seedbed so rotten that not even kindred or scarlet want him If all become an omen, the world would become a prison. The best way to keep a prisoner from escaping is to make sure he never knows he's in prison
I cannot bring myself to do his Quest to get His ending because He is so purely Evil. There might have been a more noble thought behind His Plan but for me he is just a Psycho enjoying the Kills and suffering He brings. I kill him with Passion everytime i get to him 🤭
Very nice vid! Hmm yea if the majority consists of Omens the condition may truly be seen as a blessing rather than a curse. But like you mention, my problem is his sadistic nature (he seem to take more joy in pain than saving the Omen)
I wonder if they were playing with the idea that if you get killed by the dung eater that it deletes your game 🤔 it sorta feels like they were hinting that by warning you soo much not to go near him It would make sense as your soul would be cursed and un able to be reawakened
When he's receiving the seedbed curses you can give him Seluvis' potion to curse him into a puppet for eternity and he starts whimpering in sheer terror... a fitting end.
@@Tokahontes You both are correct- it seems.
@@Tokahontes Nah, condemning the many because of the indoctrination and atrocities of the few is just as bad as letting the world burn because a fire and a body stealing edgelord told you life wasn't worth living because of flimsy justifications.
@@Tokahontes You blame the king and his advisors, generals and knights, not all of the above and the peasants too my guy.
It's like hating every Russian because their leaders started a war, while ignoring the fact that they can't speak against it because they will be arrested and likely tortured to death. you don't blame everyone when they too are trapped in the system.
@@BeefMeisterSupreme They are the ones who put them there, be it unwitting or not.
@@Tokahontes Alas, indiscriminate suffering is what gave rise to the dung eater to begin with. More indiscriminate suffering won't change anything, except produce someone even worse. Maybe the Three Fingers are right after all.
Possibly the craziest power of the Dung Eater is to bring/summon a friggin chair for each corpse lol
HOW DOES HE DO IT
😂
He has motivation
Maybe he was a chair-smith by trade
I remember in Bloodstained: Ritual of the night the chair summoning is a legit power that can be leveled up.
Whoever voice acted the dung eater did a great job...it's spine chilling scary
Unless he accidentally disturbs the crab and dies to death blight...
For real
He seems to constantly be on the verge of drooling, speaking with a wicked smile. Incredible job indeed!
Yeah i remember hearing him do that omen bairn attack for the first time and he sounds like he’s loving it 😂
I sometimes imagine that he's Alex Jones
The loathsome dungeater?
Nah nah. You're talking about the Crazed CaCa consumer
No, I think you mean the Pernicious Poopie Partaker
The spiteful fecal connoisseur!
The Dastardly DooDoo Devourer!
The shit guy
The Ghastly Guano Gorger
In a world where the Dung Eater exists, you have to wonder what Shabriri could have possibly done to be considered the “most reviled man ever.”
Basically genocide
My headcanon is that the only reason is that Dung Eater is basically a serial killer, carrying out his “work” in secret. He was obviously caught for something and imprisoned, but maybe the Order never had a full grasp on the extent of his crimes and didn’t want to know. Since the Roundtable Hold is basically a projection of the fortified manor in Leyndell, I think it’s also mostly safe to assume that his tidy collection of corpses were at least transported there post-Shattering and he could get away with it. Maybe he was hunting and defiling the citizens of Leyndell and that’s when he was caught. What Roderika tells us disturbed me personally, since it implies that he’s always surrounded by basically a maelstrom of souls crying out in unending agony.
I think it’s because what shabriri did happened before the dung eater arrived in the lands between, but I dunno
Shabbir litterally genocided and damned a group and prisoned them away all on a tale. They also were cursed in some way, due to their nature of having the frenzy flame spells and mabey tried to said they were trying to burn the erdtree. They were reviled hunted killed and put away. Dung eater was a serial killer that was intheory hung and died. However came back to life due to his nature of being a tarnished. So his whole plan wasn't known and wasn't on a level as shibiri yet. However he'd have taken the place if his plan was further in motion.
Easiest comparison is that the Dung Eater is Jeffrey Dahmer and Shabriri is Hitler.
Dungeater actually has unique face settings in his code. When used in the character creator you get this ugly, beady-eyed, pig nosed man which fits well with his personality and lore.
That's the face we used in the video ;)
That's so cool
Don't insult the pigs
I always thought the dung eater was a bald guy with a crooked nose.
Imo, the most interesting part of his appearance is that he isn't an omen himself. At least not physically .
My favorite moment was when the Dung Eater said "Its Dungin' Time" and spread the Omen curse everywhere
He just shat all over the Lands Between
What are we, some kind of Dung Eater Squad?
I just imagine him just shitting everywhere. Like... EVERYWHERE
He spread dung all over the place
Im tired of hearing this dead and unfunny meme
Dung Eater was the only character I wanted to kill in Elden Ring. There are lots of heinous characters in the game, but I always felt a sadness ending them. A cruel necessity to fixing the Lands Between. But when I freed Dung Eater in the sewer, and heard his ramblings of murder, defilement, and how he would kill again, I had a visceral reaction. In a game all about killing, I finally found someone I wanted dead. I fought him, barely surviving, and ended him there and then. It was the only time I felt the murder was just.
I killed him as soon as I opened the door, still don’t regret it.
I know what the Golden Order did to the natives of the Lands Between. Those horn stumps he decorates his armor with were done to Omens children and is almostva garantee death sentence. The Dungster deserved his revenge.
@@dorkanderson4963 strange way to justify cold blooded murder of countless innocents. Those innocents, like the citizens of Leyndell, were as trapped in the system as the omen-kin held underground. Would you face a being like Godfrey or Radagon and tell them that their process is wrong? Would you stand up for the ones defiled by the golden order?
Killing everybody because of the crimes of the few is wrong in any situation. I killed the dung eater after freeing him, too. I couldn’t let him go after hearing how excited he was to go murder and defile the corpses of all men, women, and children.
A truly disgusting being.
@@dorkanderson4963 nah just cause that shot happened don't mean you murder hundreds of men, women, and children and curse them and their future decedent's
@@reelzebub4167 Boc being born of a mother is one of the "cursed". Pretty much anyone who doesn't follow the Golden Order dogma is cursed.
The omen are said to be haunted by some entity in their dreams. I have often thought that entity might be the dung eater. He is probably not responsible for every omen but you could imagine that those reborn from his defilement are traumatised by what created them. I wouldnt be surprised if the memory of him haunts them.
If you don’t buy prawn or crab from Boggart until AFTER you’ve finished Rya and the Dungeater’s questlines, you can save him since he doesn’t appear at the pond until after you do so!
You can also agro him at the capital and he doesn’t get got
We kinda know that the omen affliction can spread as we see omen horns on red albinaurics and Sanguine Nobles. The current dominant theory is that those enemies were infected because they drank or otherwise ingested Mohg blood. If that is the case it kinda shines a new light on why Dung Eater can be summon for Mohg, the Omen and Morgott boss fight. Dung Eater hunts down the omens because he needs their blood to defile the corpses of his victims.
Interestingly enough the horned omens in the Leyndell Catacombs are capable of attacking the player with cursed spirits similarly to one of the Dunk Eaters attacks. It kinda implies that the omens themselves also eat souls of their victims.
Dung eater makes Shabriri sound like a reasonable guy. I'm glad I turned him into a puppet. That's for my Boi Boggart.
Not sure what you're talking about, Boggart is fine, the Dung Eater always dies in the sewer. No. Matter. What.
Ironically by not giving two shakes about Boggart (Rya simp here) I ended up saving him xD I did turn Dung Eater into a puppet too though cause screw that guy.
Shabriri wants to destroy all world ans souls so they do not suffer. Dung Eater wants to make all people omens so discrimination of omens come to an end. Both are crazy, but the Dung Eater doesn't want apocalypse
@@naliadearnise3914 yeah I think I'll take nothing over the world being turned into a shit-swamp.
@@naliadearnise3914brother dungeater wants everyone to suffer and defiled
I think the sunlight medallion on him ties him to solaire, but not by character, but rather by drive. Both dung eater and solaire are men obsessed with their goal, solaire to achieve his sun and the dung eater to his age of defilement. Solaire will go as far as to defile himself to achieve his sun (the sunlight maggots) where dung eater's obsession drives him to defile the entire world. Im sure from soft also wanted to toy with the idea of turning one of the most beloved character's symbol into a grotesque one
Dungeater allows himself to be defiled by our tarnished in order to create his cursed mending rune
Its also interesting to consider that the Sunlight Medallion is of a figure beloved by all, but worn by someone who is utterly devolved away from understanding the beauty of the original concept.
And if we're really going to get conspiracy theorising, well, Chris Chan did this with his Sonichu Medallion, and also ate feces.
@@TOUGHEYES The Dung Eater wears the symbol as a mockery of its meaning.
What the fuck does this have to do with some subhuman waste of life in our world...?
What really
Makes it delicious is Dungie isn’t like these other groups with massive armies or secret agendas or even powerful magic he’s literally just some weird guy who realized under the right conditions a person can be defiled to the point their ghost is fucking boned and the Elden Ring can be made to fuck everyone’s ghost.
or maybe its just a dung face with horns. who knows. i mean, one is obsessed with dung and the other with sun, its likely for them to carry their own specified symbol
Saving Boggart is like saving Solaire in DS1. If you do the steps right, you can save him before Boggart is gutted.
Something about him saying, “Along with their children, and their childrens children for all time to come.” Really reminded me of blood borne. Maybe Dung eater ending leads to Bloodborne and not age of stars like everyone thinks.
I have a false memory about this but I think it would be really cool and more fitting in the end after the narrator says “the fallen leaves tell a story” the dung eater is the one speaking
Bro! This would send chills down my spine
It's shabriri
@@superpikkle3983 I subscribe to this theory
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Tbh this is what they should have done for all mending rune endings.
Fias ending, fia speaking.
Goldmasks ending, Corhyn speaking,
Dungeaters ending, as mentioned above, dung eater speaking.
I wonder how many ppl will realize that the face shown here is D.Eater's actual face under his helm in-game..? Nice touch, happy spooky day!!
Thank you thank you, we try to do that for all of our lore subjects
Yeah I appreciate the video for that! You can position yourself in his gaol cell in a way that you can look through his helmet. He looks kinda leonine.
@@square-table-gaming Cheers Mate! 🍻 Always top notch art and Lore in every ep. of Elden Lore. Prob sounds grandure, but this would make for a great Netflix series.
@@frankiefromky can't heart this comment enough
They knew what they were doing when they gave him such a silly name, it drops your guard for when he's actually encountered
I saw a reaction compilation when the game came out. Streamers had a pretty funny reaction to the Dung Eater in the intro
Ikr 😂 when his name was mentioned in the trailer it caught me off guard
Most loathesome act is that Dungeater killed Boggart. How can he do that to best waifu shrimp bro?
Still doesn’t top what melania did.
I found it hard to ignore Dung Eater's comically-sized Sunlight Covenant medallion. I'm not trying to make some tinfoil stretch to say he's Solaire reborn, but I do think Miyazaki and FS like to play with their own symbology. They've taken great pains to make the Dung Eater the most vile and revolting character in any of their games, but instead of a boss they made him an NPC which the player must take great pains to develop. To me, in a metatextual way the Seedbed Curse mirrors the way players interact with NPCs across these games: reviving them with each playthrough, toying with their fates over and over, summoning them for bosses or to obtain loot and then casting them aside. Feels like Solaire got sick of it and wants to turn off the cooling fan on your Playstation
Melina doesn't like it when you come in contact with Three Fingers, but she doesn't care when you use the Dung Eater rune that will curse all lives to come, or the Fia rune that will warp life itself, I hope it was intentional on the developers' part, so they can better clarify things in possible future DLCs. Also want a Marika, Melina, Ranni boss fight
To me, this is prefectly consistent with what Melina says about life. She says that any path *other* than the one that leads to the Frenzied Flame is one that will sustain life. "Births will continue" she says, as a self-evident good. In Melina's view, the Dung Eater's vision of the future is acceptable because it doesn't halt the process of births or end the existence of life. Even if that life is cursed, it doesn't matter (although if everyone is cursed, then surely no one is? and if the Golden Order is gone, will it even be considered a curse?)
We already have a Marika fight. Radagon. Radagon and Marika are being. It’s the reason Malenia and Miquella are cursed with Rot or Eternal Childhood.
@@ooccttoo being Omen or having Crucible aspects was a Curse for the Golden order, before that It was a blessing
We can create an order in which Is the norm
@@ooccttooShe is clearly biased. The Frenzied Flame will restart the world. She is worried about holding on to her little bit of power in this fucked up twisted world. Considering she is implied to be related to the Golden Order. You know the golden order. The ones who fucked this world up in the first place.
@@ooccttoo The thing is that Melina still wants the status quo, the erdtree, to remain. If you up-end order rather than distorting it, she gets buttmad.
Also there's lore pointing towards birth halting such as those harpy-looking things singing about not being able to have children anymore. The only kind of "birth" is remains being shoveled into a jar.
This makes me hope for a time travel DLC that gives a new “Primordial Crucible” Ending. Where you can use a mending rune to regress the world to an era before the Erdtree
I'd love that.
Isn’t that kind of the blessing of dispair ending? Which has everyone become cursed to not be reborn (omen and misbegotten)
@pedrolopez4910 not really I'm not sure about the misbegotten but the omens exist because the where touched by the crucible
I read an interesting theory recently that the Dung Eater may have been a crusader who returned from the land of shadow, explaining that as his connection to the omen as well as the striking resemblance of his medallion to a furnace visage.
You know, some have suggested the Dung Eater is akin to Kappa, ripping out the souls from the lower regions of the victim
I honestly think though the defilement part is certainly abhorrent, his goal is kind of a noble one.
Discrimination towards the omens is awful in the game's world. The perfumers would try to cut off baby's horns to prevent the curse from affecting them but most babies die from the procedure. And the ones that survive still get affected by the curse anyway. So some perfumers gave up and decided the only way to ease their pain is to just kill them. So they drink potions that take away their emotions and became "omen killers". All that because marika took away death from the elden ring and the omens blessed by the crusible now are haunted by the restless souls that want to be reborn through the erdtree rather than just die and move on like old times. Now they're not just haunted but also hunted and reviled by all those who follow the golden order. If the rebirths stopped and everyone became an omen they'd stop being haunted and having nightmares and the discrimination would stop because everyone is an omen now.
The dung eater has an interesting quote "you are infact, me, and i am the dung eater"
The dung eater isnt a name, its a title. Everyone is a dung eater to some extent. Whether it be for good or for evil, we're all dung eaters for something we believe in.
He is no friend to the omen, his armour purposefully has all the horns cut off and is caked in blood and rust.
My guess is that the omen are the 'blessed cursed' and the majority of his curse is something far more vile and twisted.
Listen just because Halloween is over doesn’t mean you should stop making these - these are the best
Oh we're still going to make elden lore for all kinds of characters. Basically the music will go back to the original bgm unless people want us to experiment more with that.
@@square-table-gaming Most things in this game is creepy anyway. You walk around any castle or dungeon & you will atleast see some Pile of corpses or dried bones. It's the most normal thing. Creepy music fits perfectly.
Here I am on Halloween watching the same video happy Halloween!
the 2.5D image of Dung eater was actually such a cool effect dude
Our artist Pat Gee is the man
Honestly I think the dung eater does care but due to over the years of defiling people most likely abandoned his original goal and focus more satisfying himself then bring a new age to the land between.🤔🐱
That’s my thought as well
But then...you came along. You rekindled his drive to overturn the order. The player is the one who gave him his purpose back, and made him realize he had to be defiled himself to see his goal attained
@@FlamingAomebawould be so interesting seeing more of this type of extremely twisted characters in more stories as antagonists or protagonists
Oh-oh, here he comes
Watch out, boy, he'll chew you up
Oh-oh, here he comes
he's a dung-eater!
Fun fact: if you don't buy any shrimp with Boggart in Liurmia, it won't go to the Altus Plateau, and Dungeeater won't kill it
How dare you call our boi an "it"?
It?....Marika's tits, you must be high
IT?! ight now we gotta scrap🥲
What did you just call my Boi boggart??
I've done a few playthroughs just to test stuff, on one of these playthroughs I didn't do any of Boggart's quest line; he still ended up dead by Dungys' hands.
He’s a puppet servant to my Elden Lord. Hurting nobody unless I command it. Forever trapped in a body he can’t control.
Dung Eater voice actor needs an award
2 things. 1, Poor Blackguard Big Boggart, (one of my favorite npcs) him talking about being frozen with fear as his friend was mutilated and cannibalized was honestly just quite sad, he’s such an endearing character and honestly doesn’t deserve fucked up shit like that. 2. The organ he mentioned in the video is (presumably) the liver. Here in America, the heart is claimed to hold the soul, whereas in Japan, the liver contains the soul
Dear God, you mean he digs way up in there to curse people?! Is that why he dies when you give him the seed bed cures?! God, that is sick and disgusting, in a twisted cool way.
_The shirikodama is a mysterious organ said to reside in the human colon, and kappa love to extract them from unwary swimmers the hard way: by hand. Or claw." Matt tells me that in times of old kappa were often blamed for drownings. It wasn't uncommon for drowned bodies to be found with prolapsed anuses._
The *shirikodama* , according to japanese folklore, is housed within the anus. It might be a hint as to why he is called the "Loathsome Dung Eater."
I believe it's located in the colon not the liver
@@square-table-gaming I’ve heard both, so maybe it’s an interpretation thing? I’m not sure
@@doorknobr The Headless enemy in Sekiro kills you like this, by extracting your "shirikodama" from your colon.
I think he just does the curse as his trademark. I never really thought he had a reason to do what he did except for fun. He really is a creepy character but has such a badass voice.
So basically if the Dung Eater eats your booty like groceries, you’re never returning to the erdtree after death?
Correct! Your soul lives in him until you become part of his mending rune. Then if his rune is used you come back as an omen, broken from the rebirth cycle
@@square-table-gaming makes sense
Lol
This video is definitely the best dung eater video I've seen. I've watched many videos and still didn't fully understand what the curse was, but this video explained it extremely well.
Thank you! We try to make the explanations as easy to follow as possible.
great video as always 😃
This is one character I have no qualms at all giving the puppet potion to.
Vaatividya was the only psychopath to say, "y'know the dung eater kind of had point"
I don't necessarily disagree that the guy has a point, the method is where I draw the line.
I think people keep misunderstanding one thing: none of the endings, except maybe the frenzy one, have you break the Greater Wills holds on the Lands Between. The Erdtree is not what binds the lands to the Greater Will, the Elden Rings itself is and all the ending have you repair the ring in one way or another. All you do is establish a new order that still serves under the Greater Will, even in the Ranni ending you just have Ranni replace Marika as the vassal god.
Again all ending except maybe the Frenzy one, that one I'm not sure of.
All the Endding of mending the Rune establish a new order under the Greater Will except Ranni's one's as she keep all outer worlds influences out of the Land between with her dark moon and Frenzy's one because, well you destroy everything.
@@Sir-Pleiades Outer gods are called outer because they are outside the scope of the current order not because they are from outer space. In Ranni's ending, what you do is set her up as a new vassal god to the Greater Will, basically just replacing Marika. There were other vassal gods before Marika, like the dragon god that Placidusax was the elden lord to, but they still served the Greater Will, since they also used the Elden Ring.
It's kinda hard to explain, but basically, in the original japanese version the Greater Will is talked about as a higher power, like the biblical God, but outer gods are basically lesser gods, like gods of specific aspects of nature. All the outer gods mentioned in the story are outer because they are connected to death in one way or another, and the Golden Order was created when Marika removed the concept of death from the world.
@nightpandas7178 nowhere does it say that you need a flesh body to contain the ring
The dung eater and his ending make my blood boil to the highest point but the means it is unlocked even his screams cannot sooth my anger and hatred for this character
you’re misguided
@@MCDLXXXVIII_ He is but a lamb, a stranger to defilement. Ignorant of his own ignorance
ironacally his ending is probably the best for the land between fromsoft def did that on purpose
@@MCDLXXXVIII_you’re sick. Not misguided, not evil, just sick in the head. You need help.
That hideous brown sky and the withered Erdtree don't look to me like a world worth living in.
I was waiting for this one, thanks for the great content my guy
Thanks for watching!
After playing the DLC, I wonder if he was an agent or sympathizer of the Hornsent, bringing a revenge against the Golden Order and Marika for the Genocide they endured.
During the intro I laughed my ass off when they mentioned "The loathsome Dung Eater". Such a great twist to have him be the absolute most evil person in the game, dude was a fucking menace.
The Dastardly Poo Poo Consumer
The abhorrent fecal ingester
The Despicable Diarrhea Diner
@@grilledeel6042 The Malicious Muck Muncher
The Mad Manure Muncher
In the current patch (1.08.1), there is a bug with the Dung Eater. It let you get double loot when killing Dung Eater by performinng certain steps:
Kill him in the sewer gaol upon first interaction - dont pick up the loot - teleport back to the nearest site of grace - go back to the gaol - pick up the double loot.
I don't think the Dung Eater should be considered the most evil character in Elden Ring, his goal was at least somewhat noble, since he believes being an omen is a blessing and wants to give it to everybody, even if his methods are cruel. There is Godrick, who is a selfish man who does not care about killing and dismembering people only to become stronger, there is Mogh, whose only motivation is pure hatred and does not care about his followers, only about his dinasty coming to power, as some kind of revenge against those who imprisoned him, but I think the worst would be Shabriri, since his goal is to literally burn down and kill everything, and making the world suffer while everything dies, since the people afflicted by madness do not seem to be having a lot of fun. Although Shabriri also has a justification for what he does, he literally wants to bring the apocalypse purposefully
haha I had no idea there was more to this guy's story. I met him in the keep, found him in the sewers, spoke with him and was like, bro this guy's gotta go. Took him out and read the item descriptions. But it's pretty chilling now knowing the rest of the story!
Correction, marika is pretty flipping evil too... How many of her children became souless demigods, how many destines destroyed, How many people has that one numen thrown under the bus to ultimately create an age of stagnation and eternal suffering. Marika is literally the most evil character in the series and i cant wait to find out what broke her.
what if seedbed is actually testicles. Seed is a synonym for sperm. Seed/sperm is stored in the balls. The sitting position of the corpses, their legs bound to the chair, blood stained cloth position and the seedbed curse model (vaguely looks like conjoined balls) suggests that way too. Probably after defilement he eats the shirikodama to house the defiled soul in his own body. So when the souls are reborn after using his mending rune, they will have cursed balls and the curse will be passed down from generation to generation
Much more likely to be a prostate.
Or he sodomizes the corpse to put a Seedbed curse in.
He gestates the curse and places.
@@trequor i read in a comment somewhere that he grapes his victims first lets it fester and then harvests the seedbed from them
@thelonelystankmuncher8879 yikes if thats the case
Cursed balls lol
was just thinking to myself the other day i didn’t really understand the dung eater or his ending at all so great timing for the vid! also great vid!
"..who is the most evil character we encounter in Elden Ring, there is only one true answer."
Yes. And it is Shabriri.
Dung Eater is a VERY close second though.
Eh Shabriri is pushing for the 3 fingers and the 3 want all life to return to one because it will end suffering.
The 3 ending is essentially a giant reset button breaking all of existence down into one again. This is how everything was in the beggining and there is no reason the Greater Will "the only true god" couldn't make life again. The 3 fingers and the 2 are ying and yang. Order and chaos, both are good and bad and neither can exist without the other.
That's why together they create a complete hand.
@@brandonvallier4214 Yes you are right, but also wrong. Order and Chaos are two sides of the same coin and the delicate balance of the two is what can bring Peace in the lands between. That is what us players know but not the NPCs. One can not live without the other but each will do its damnest to get on the top because each is absoly sure to be in the Right. So, the frenzied flame ending is just Chaos taking over the lands between instead of Order.
I was just thinking about this myself. Lore wise, Shabriri is the most hated, but you never really get to see that. Sure he pops up in a dead body, but there's no real build up to it. When you first hear him, he's plea to spare the maiden's life seems very sound. We don't get to see just how loathsome he actually is.
But with Dung Eater, we actively see it, experience it. We follow his quest line and see the horrors first hand. To us, he would be the most hated of the NPCs purely because we only get to see Shabriri once and he really doesn't do anything. Only by the lore of the world and the cut content do we know how evil he really is.
That's messed up logic considering their end goals.
Seluvis is a good runner-up. Shabriri is a demon following his nature.
“I didn’t just curse ‘em, I rectum!”
-D.E.
The most evil being is named... "Dung Eater..." A masterpiece of a game
"Our most precious stone, cast forth upon the dunghill, being most dear, is made the vilest of vile." - An Alchemical Poem. Take it for what you wish when it comes to the lore.
What an amazing month for this channel IMO I appreciate this spook fest for your deep dive into the lore of Elden Ring and I look forward to more.
I rather let the Frenzied Flame to obliterate all than ever do the Dung Eater ending.
Dung eater creates the dark soul, in essence.
Once the order is broken at the end of time, and the dark soul has all of humanity within it, it becomes a God in its own right.
As the cold returns and time starts over again, the world is left in a state of rock, and dragon.
Deep within the roots of the world, the lingering heat of lords keeps a tiny flame burning.
This tiny flame is found by the few wretched entities remaining, and they become lords of the new world.
And all the humanity of the lands between has now become the dark soul, waiting for the pygmy to take it up, and bring humanity back to the cosmos.
And that too, at the end of time, will be sopped up by Gael, and vomited into a new, black and cold world with a hint of flame at its very bottom.
And all the while, the living cosmos tries to escape the universe it has been trapped within, now unable to bear children, by dreaming a new one.
A new dream of hunters, blood, and the infinite curse of beasts and humanity.
Ironically, the only soul to ever escape this, is the one name named "the bearer of the curse."
It makes just a lil bit more sense now, thanks
You neglected to mention what the order had done to the omens killing them and removing the horns of those born from their nobles locking them up in the dungeons.
In my pov the dung eater's motivation is quite understandable, he's forcing members of the system that destroyed him and his kin to conform to his existance to be forever binded to him and his path. It's not even revenge at that point it become a way of life and thr meaning of existance itself after what he has been subjected to.
Another soul wronged by the order.
Knowing the lore and looking back at 1:00 is VERY unsettling......
TLDR; Shabriri is more evil than the Dung Eater.
The twin themes of Elden Ring are the futility of the quest for immortality, and the inevitable consequences when advanced power meddle in the development of less advanced peoples.
Whoever gathered together the motley assembly in the Roundtable Hold (be it Ranni or even Queen Marika herself) wanted no stone unturned, no options off the table. The aim was either to fix the mess that the Great Will (and its vassals) had made of the Lands Between, or sever the connection.
The goals of Ranni, Fia and the Dung Eater are to leave the Greater Will’s machinery powerless over the world's inhabitants. Ranni’s methods are heroic, the Dung Eater’s vile, and Fia’s somewhere in between.
Goldmask’s arrogance is that he can achieve the Greater Will’s aims better than the Greater Will himself, and the default non-quest ending is even less impressive, perpetuating the current, shoddy state.
But I would argue that Shabriri’s is by far the greatest evil of all, since his goal is the unmaking all of creation, permanently killing all who have ever been born, and preventing any more souls from being born.
I'd much rather have no life than a life comprised of nothing but neverending torture.
@@alaron5698
That's YOUR LIFE my life and others may wanna try to right wrongs or have a nice bloodline🤷🏾♂️
@@C_0_N What?
Don't you dare talk about my boy gold mask like that, my guy outsmarted the greater wills just by t-posing, his ending isn't called perfect order for nothing.
I personally found it amusing to do Dungeaters quest in order to curse the world. Too bad the ending wasn't as gruesome as I hoped.
Well, the land was covered with dung and undeath.
In the intro they show a picture of him being hanged and it looks like they're throwing crap at him (literally). I always assumed this is how he got his name. They threw manure at his face and called him the "dungeater" to shame him.
I believe it's the reverse. He's the dung eater because of the horrific act of eating souls which FromSoft depicts as coming from your behind. Because of his name they threw dung at him when he was strung up.
I always thought his armor looked like poop with undigested corn kernels sticking out of it
The duskborn ending to me is putting things back to their natural cycle, even the frenzied flame is at least putting an end to everything so it can hopefully start anew. Dung eater wants everyone to suffer forever. I’m afraid to condone that even in a video game
but what matters is your reign, and your reign will break the endless cycle of corruption. yes, everyone will become an omen, but the Erdtree will die and everyone can live without the reign of the corrupted gods
I always thought that the Primordial Crucible is something sentient, maybe even an Outer God. Dung Eater is to it what Shabriri is for the Flame of Chaos.
There's also the out-there theory that the Formless Mother that Mohg worships *is* the Crucible, or perhaps the Outer God responsible for it. We know that Omens used to be regarded as sacred back in the age of the Crucible, Omen blood is important to the Formless Mother, and Dung Eater is trying to create as many new Omens as he can, believing it's his great destiny. Maybe this is all the Crucible trying to take control of the Lands Between back from the Greater Will, by both spreading her influence as far as possible, as well as having a new world order, the Mohgwyn Dynasty, ready to replace the Golden Order.
Not sure, the crucible was most likely just the order which proceeded Marikas golden order.
Shabriri also seems to be some kind of avatar for the flame of frenzy, while dung eater is just a simple tarnished, even if he is the closest thing to the champion for the crucible there is.
The scourge upon the living is here 😁.. was looking forward to this video
Unrelated, but I listened to this before I fought Godfrey for the first time a few minutes ago. I beat him first try! My heart was beating so fast and hard after I was finished!
We literally have a serial Ass Eater on the loose in the Lands Between!! 😳😳
😮😮 in other words the worst of the worst 😱😱 does anyone agree with him
The fact he wears a sun on his chest pisses me off, also great video!
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In the Dung Eater ending, I love it when the sky turns to lesions. Praise the pox and let us gorge on delectable doo doo.
One thing i think you shouldve mentioned us that the dung eater also has a line that goes something like "the golden order will get what it deserves one day" after youve given him one or two seedbed curses. I think his lines change based on how much pain hes in. But he has some weird motivations.
I like this style of video better. It reminds me of the old vaati, while his newer video is more cinematic but less straight to the point.
Thank you! I sincerely love his content but I agree with you. As beautiful as his new videos are, they tend to dance around the main ideas until finally presenting them.
The Loansome Poo Poo Devouer
He’s one of my favorite characters, and I think has one of the best endings, everyone will be cursed. No discrimination on who is “tarnished” and “noble” no more golden order sticking the omen into sewers which are absolutely terrifying. No more discrimination, between misbegotten, just cursed.
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Exactly. I don’t think he’s evil. Misguided, but when one is rebelling against the gods themselves, it’s nearly impossible to remain steadfast
@@bigboncho Inflicting the entire world and future generations with a horrible curse sounds pretty evil to me, and let's not forget the murder and defiling of innocents to achieve it
Right it’s like if people with no legs were ridiculed and mistreated I’m still not going to help you amputate the legs of every child ever born from here on out
The Curse isn't horrible or anything, it pretty implied that it just makes you an omen or a misbegotten.
Surprised you didn't cover the alternate option of turning the dung eater into your loathsome puppet. That's my preference and while it's a hassle to sidetrack Ranni's quest, it's worth it to enslave this rotten character. Doesn't hurt he's a bad ass summon to have on your side.
He is a great summon but it basically just cuts off his storyline altogether so when you're talking about the story of the dung eater it's kind of anti climactic
@@square-table-gaming That's a fair assessment for the purpose of this video but I still thought it was worth a mention. Appreciate the response and fwiw, I've really enjoyed your work with Eldon Ring. Thanks.
This game is the deepest rabbit hole of a game ever made.
Congrats on the final spooky vid! I'll admit this video's Myuu song, "Cursed Stories" was one that took a moment to recall. Good choice, per usual, since Dung Eaters story is all about Seedbed Curses. I'm guessing the usual bgm will be returning next month?
The thing that I found interesting is how his final words are very similar in wording to the Hamlet's curse upon the Hunters of Bloodborne. They both curse "...Their children. And their children's children too."
"Curse the fiends, their children too. And their children forever true."
We are going back to the usual bgm in November unless people want us to keep experimenting with the music!
So in theory, does that mean that the only way to save the souls trapped in the dung-eater would be to do his ending? Because, since he's a tarnished, if you don't do his ending and kill him he'll just be reborn with the souls still inside of him.
Not necessarily, tarnish that no longer see grace can die and return to the earth tree. Technically the best way to go about ending the dog eaters quest is to just straight up kill him because that would send his soul along with all the ones he has eaten back to the Erdtree
@@square-table-gaming I see, but now that I think about it, your theory makes the seluvis ending of his quest even more horrible.
The background music is perfect for the topic of this video
the dung eater has to be one of the best characters in Elden ring.
1:49 so the reason behind the omen curse is the primordail Crucble 😮
That is why the omens were seen as blessing before the age of the Eardtree
A seedbed so rotten that not even kindred or scarlet want him
If all become an omen, the world would become a prison. The best way to keep a prisoner from escaping is to make sure he never knows he's in prison
Turning the Dung Eater into a puppet is the finest form of foiling his plans.
the soul is stored in the BALLS
I cannot bring myself to do his Quest to get His ending because He is so purely Evil. There might have been a more noble thought behind His Plan but for me he is just a Psycho enjoying the Kills and suffering He brings. I kill him with Passion everytime i get to him 🤭
When people ask "What is Elden Ring about?" I'll show them this video.
But omen are really cursed... All those nightmares, horns hurting their own bodies... How can this be a blessing??
Their strength is considered a blessing. Also, I don't believe their horns hurt their own bodies, it's the removal that hurts them
@@square-table-gaming One of Mogh's horns pops his left eye.
@@woffydoggy686 right but if he was born that way that doesn't necessarily mean it hurts him
"I asked you not to disturb me. 😠"
Dungeater's accent is the Birmingham accent.
Great work from Fromsoft.
Can’t kill this dood quick enough in each playthru
Very nice vid! Hmm yea if the majority consists of Omens the condition may truly be seen as a blessing rather than a curse. But like you mention, my problem is his sadistic nature (he seem to take more joy in pain than saving the Omen)
I sbolutely love the dung eater lore. There is something really poetic to his character if you think about it.
is it just me or when the dung eater uses the omen bairn doesn’t it sound a bit like he screams “bless you” at the top of his lungs
I wonder if they were playing with the idea that if you get killed by the dung eater that it deletes your game 🤔 it sorta feels like they were hinting that by warning you soo much not to go near him
It would make sense as your soul would be cursed and un able to be reawakened
With a name like dung eater no wonder he wants to curse everything
The sinister shit snacker
The devious doodoo devourer