This is a Test only! I need Feedback regarding Display/Rankings/readability. It is pretty much 2 Tier lists in one and the E1 rankings had no influence in the E2 rankings and vice versa. I need to know if you spot any big mistakes regarding either rankings let me know. Keep in mind I have to make almost 700 different rankings and it's easy to lose track of some of the rankings and that's why I need your help to ensure there are no major errors once the final version releases.
Shining isn't the same tier as Warfarin she should be lower, Warfarin brings more value, so S tier for Warfarin. Typhon should be OP Tier, her skill 2 hits harder than Thorns' skill 3 and has good crowd control. Typhon's skill 3 tracks the boss up to the 2nd phase, she will wait until the invulnerability is gone, it's currently one of (if not) the hardest hitting sniper skills in the game. Myrtle should be the same Tier as Elysium, she's cheaper to deploy, can print DP faster than the other two and has Vanguard healing passive. I do get that Elysium and Saileach prints more DP than Myrtle in the long run, but most of the time you will retreat Vanguards after enough DP is printed in favor of other units.
For better distinctions you should do earlygame (e1), lategame/challenge, and IS/roguelike. Because IS has the greatist distinction from the rest and its important for new players who are the ones generally getting the most from these list to see exactly why they are valued so highly and know what units to build first.
also yato alter in my opinion is S+ while texas stays OP. I’ve got both maxed and while they are both very useful i don’t consider yato ~as~ broken as texas.
@@rimurutempest4886 Which is why I think he’s S tier along with his invis reveal. While it can be useful, 10% redeployment is rarely noticed. Maybe once he gets his module he’ll be a nice S+ candidate.
I assume the E1 vs Max lvl distinction means the tier list is for newer doctors with less resources? I think a general vs IS distinction would be cool to see.
There are two types of Dokutahs... 1. who uses most OP chars to achieve victory that reflects pre-amnesia dokutah 2. who uses whatever operators they like regardless of power that reflects post amnesia dokutah. :3
Quercus should be way higher than B for max, she is actually an excellent healer with masteries and on CN with her module her sanctuary is one of the best in the game.
Doesn't matter, He ranked her thier from hes experience "I respect that" For the original topic i agree, She is M6'ed 3 months a ago, Since i have seen her module i rushed her mastrys XD I give her " A" pre-module " S " post-module Fact:Quercus is the 1# reason that made me decide to build Silence The Paradigmatic, And she is worth it100%
My feedback. From a perspective IF I'm new into the game. I feel it is much harder to cypher your intent with the tier list. 1. I think you should mention why it is based on each sub class or archetype. Where each sub class should has its own tier in regard of usefulness. But tiering the sub class may also making inconsistencies when there is one or two person are super exceptional. Like Ling. Like you can also point to another tier list that is more standard looking like the Gamepress. And what you're doing is different from them. Consider if I'm a newbie, I need to get only a handful strong characters First to have a good starting point. Looking at A, S, or OP tier at many sub classes would make them too many. 2. The meaning between e1+L7 and Max is not clear. Like why should someone think to stop to build a character at e1L7 for example. 2B. What is your definition of Max? e2L90? Relevant skill(s) at m3? Or relevant module at lv3? Maybe also full potential? Exu and Goldenglow are the example where you need to have them at m3, full pot, full module, max level to see their maximum capability. Alone Exu without lv3 module cannot kill the artillery spotter drone. She need to overcome its defense bar first. Around 1K i think. Those who has low attack, high attack speed or many attack multipier. And those who tank (since they could potentially tank from many damage sources) are usually the case.
I would increase Aprils rank or give her a special rank. April is a marksman yes, but her niche is to be a ranged fast redeploy operator which makes her always useful, especially with her camoflague on s2. Its also what seperates her from other marksmans.
I agree, For that reason I gave her a special Sp mark to indicate that she isn't really a normal Marksman. But you would place her even higher than A+? Thanks to you I realized her order is wrong based on her ranking so I fixed it for the next version. Arigatou~
Think it again. Just because the operator is more 'hard' to use, dont put it into lower tier as long as the operator can do their job. Its because few Doctor have their skill issue. I don't want to say which operator is it, but you can think it again.
Shining isn't the same tier as Warfarin she should be lower, Warfarin brings more value, so S tier for Warfarin. Typhon should be OP Tier, her skill 2 hits harder than Thorns' skill 3 and has good crowd control. Typhon's skill 3 tracks the boss up to the 2nd phase, she will wait until the invulnerability is gone, it's currently one of (if not) the hardest hitting sniper skills in the game. Myrtle should be the same Tier as Elysium, she's cheaper to deploy, can print DP faster than the other two and has Vanguard healing passive. I do get that Elysium and Saileach prints more DP than Myrtle in the long run, but most of the time you will retreat Vanguards after enough DP is printed in favor of other units.
Eyjafjalla alter should definitely be in the “OP” tier she’s insanely busted Silverash should not be S+ at most you use him for stealth detection and Uncle stole most of his use cases Golden Glow should be S+ tier she’s really good aswell Myrtle should be OP tier for DP reasons she’s in nearly every team Bagpipe definitely deserves OP tier (if your not comparing the Ops in a vacuum) These takes are assuming E2 M9 Maxed Module(if available) using optimal skill These are my opinions so not objectively correct but just wanted to put them here I’m assuming your comparing ops overall instead of comparing them in a vacuum otherwise everyone would be at least B tier also I’m assuming your including IS as a factor Also assuming that the first rating is at E1 SL7 P0 and the second rating is at E2 M9 P0 with optimal skill (so best skill) Also a little devil on my shoulder is telling me gummy is OP tier (Nice vid though appreciate you making a general tier list)
In the final Version I will try to make it more clear. The Idea is that the E1 Rankings and the E2 Max rankings don't have anything to do with each other. There are 2 Main reasons for for why some Characters have a lower E2 ranking. Reason 1: Some Operators get insane Upgrades for making them E2/m3 and giving them a module, while a few barely get any benefit from E2 Modules or Even M3 sometimes. So if you were to rank them in an E1 Tier list. Their strength is already almost at their max potential compared to other E1. Once you start to level your operator to E2 M3. The once really good operator at E1 Stayed about the same strength while others got some crazy Buffs. Reason 2: The E1 Is mainly for Newer players and I put in consideration what kind of Operators perform better in early game. A shirayuki can be insanly helpfull on many early stages With her being just E1 But once you get to any end game Content She won't be doing much anymore regardless of her being either E1 or E2. That's why I gave her a lower rank. A bit hard to explain but I hope my thought process makes sense. The Tier list was always intended to support newer players and I really have to specify more clear that the E1 Rankings are not made for IS or any other specific game modes.
I think you should change the "E1+SL7 | Max" for 2↓★s to something along the lines of "Pot1 | Pot6/Max Pot" for 1★s and "E0 | E0 30" for 2★s. not like it matters as there's probably almost zero changes and they're very niche but its for the sake of consistency i guess
Nice video Edit wtf why is cutter only in A she is clearly a S++ operator I'm not leaving a comment on this video to show that I do not support this decision
Personally i feel that the presentation of the difference in power between E1 an E2 is really confusing, for example some have a worse grade over their max which doesn't make much sense as you would think that upgrading an operator to max naturally makes them better the same thing can be said as well for comparing the e1's and e2's of other operators like for example an e1+ sl7 click is the same grade as a maxed out minimalist. I would suggest although i don't know how a better seperation of these info to really emphasize that they are graded with different things in mind or the second option i can think of which is not the best is to grade e1's just lower
According to your own grading, 2:30 Quibai should be ahead of Thorns (you put A+/S ahead of S-/S) 5:50 Warfarin should be ahead of Shining (you put A+/S- ahead of S-/S-) 6:35 Suzuran (labeled as Reed Alter) should be ahead of Angelina (you put A/S ahead of S-/S+) Not arguing with the grades you chose, but placement of operators are not in accordance of the grades you assigned.)
Nope, it's good, but I'd prefer put it like this thorns>sa>qiubai, since u have uncle mlynar now, there's no need to bring sa anymore, he's more like utility support now
@@Joo00393 Every body is entitled to his/her own opinions as to which operator is better. I wasn't arguing that. Instead at 2:30 OP was placing A+/S ahead of S-/S (OP's own ranking). Rest were all similar to that.
1) Vigil is NO WHERE A lmfao, even for welfare only players he sucks ass and his entire class does his job better than him 2) Old operators are still at S+ like SA. They are no longer meta drivers 3) How tf is Yato alter isnt the same tier OP as texas alter? They both are almost same tier on meta standpoint and easily are the best operators in the game This tierlist needs to be freshened up a little as it feels like its made 2 years ago with operators added randomly today.
pretty sure the person making this barely actually tried the ops and is just parroting but changing some things up to try and look unique.... some of those things make no sense lmfao
I was on a 8 month hiatus from January to around august. Since august I have been back making YT Content and Consistent streams about Arknights. I missed a lot in those 8 months and have been playing catch up since then. Various people asked to when I would continue my Tier list. So I choose to give it a try again. At the moment I am not knowledgeable enough to make tier list alone, so I worked on this with my discord, my twitch chat and now with TH-cam Comments to freshen it up, It is very important to me that I can deliver on the quality that people expect from a Tier list, therefor I felt it was necessary to release a Beta Version to the public to get as many opinions as possible. In the end I am the final decider of how certain things are ranked but I will always asked for Feedback to make it as accurate as possible. If there are any Concrete things that need to be fixed than let me know. Also Silverash is now on rank S. As for the other 2 suggestions I will have to get more opinions from the community to make a fair judgment.
@@cesithsfeetpics7753 I completely understand that but Yato and vigil are one of the most widelly agreed operators when it comes to where their tiers are wich is why i mentioned them.
I’m guessing it’s supposed to be ‘ranking at e1s7 when compared to others at e1s7’ instead of comparing with e2+ masteries Otherwise some ops like thorn would probably be lower due to being so dependent on skill 3
i don’t think it’s an error. it’s comparing ops at e1sl7 to other operators at e1sl7. mountain is op compared to everyone else at e1sl7 but he gains less from being fully maxed, so his ranking falls a bit because the other operators caught up slightly,
This is a Test only!
I need Feedback regarding Display/Rankings/readability.
It is pretty much 2 Tier lists in one and the E1 rankings had no influence in the E2 rankings and vice versa.
I need to know if you spot any big mistakes regarding either rankings let me know.
Keep in mind I have to make almost 700 different rankings and it's easy to lose track of some of the rankings and that's why I need your help to ensure there are no major errors once the final version releases.
Shining isn't the same tier as Warfarin she should be lower, Warfarin brings more value, so S tier for Warfarin. Typhon should be OP Tier, her skill 2 hits harder than Thorns' skill 3 and has good crowd control. Typhon's skill 3 tracks the boss up to the 2nd phase, she will wait until the invulnerability is gone, it's currently one of (if not) the hardest hitting sniper skills in the game.
Myrtle should be the same Tier as Elysium, she's cheaper to deploy, can print DP faster than the other two and has Vanguard healing passive. I do get that Elysium and Saileach prints more DP than Myrtle in the long run, but most of the time you will retreat Vanguards after enough DP is printed in favor of other units.
How do 2* and 3* units fall off at max? i noticed a few had lower rankings at "max" than they did at e1 sl7 - which should be the same, right?
6:36 Suzu must be first and named correctly
Check reaper spelling
For better distinctions you should do earlygame (e1), lategame/challenge, and IS/roguelike. Because IS has the greatist distinction from the rest and its important for new players who are the ones generally getting the most from these list to see exactly why they are valued so highly and know what units to build first.
yeah i agree, for example i think Archetto is better than Exusiai in IS, or Mizuki is great in SSS.
Your caption under Suzuran is Reed Alter...
silverash fell off a bit. I’d say a solid S but S+ is pushing it.
also yato alter in my opinion is S+ while texas stays OP. I’ve got both maxed and while they are both very useful i don’t consider yato ~as~ broken as texas.
@@bellart_ramana I mean both a have a specic lane that makes them good and their 2nd skill tie to each other hence both op
@@bellart_ramananah he's a great addition to any squad due to his 10%(+2%) redeploy reduction. Works wonders and also affects summons and traps😅
@@rimurutempest4886 Which is why I think he’s S tier along with his invis reveal. While it can be useful, 10% redeployment is rarely noticed. Maybe once he gets his module he’ll be a nice S+ candidate.
@@bellart_ramanaagree, yato can't match Texas's versatility + Texas can match the damage yato offers anyways.
Yato still good but like s+
Great video! Getting back into the game after 3 years... I don't remember there being this many different sub classes
Tsukinogi:No one can Replace me On this Spot
As a Dokutah who generally use Beanstalk E2 max lvl, she's really useful compared to her E1 max lvl
Susuran is my favorite 6 star incantation medic
Note: When there is a stage where u need Nightingale, nope u cant replace her with Ptilopsis...
Yeah seriously Ninghtingale knows where she'll shine
I guess lin totally change once you max her because of the module, so if you consider max with module, she should be A+ and S Imo
I assume the E1 vs Max lvl distinction means the tier list is for newer doctors with less resources? I think a general vs IS distinction would be cool to see.
There are two types of Dokutahs...
1. who uses most OP chars to achieve victory that reflects pre-amnesia dokutah
2. who uses whatever operators they like regardless of power that reflects post amnesia dokutah. :3
Then me who use popular OP on tutorial youtube for clearing stage 😂
@@TheStormMansafk goes stonks
GG only at S is crazy to me
Ongggg
well, if you compare goldenglow to true op units like mlynar, chen alter, yato alter, texas alter, i think it is fine.
@@xxUrekI mean there is an S+ though
I just realized, i have all the besiegers maxxed out
Sorry I ask you something not quite related to video... what are the songs you use it? I love the second one...
1st: Mortal Eye: th-cam.com/video/ST1BFEpmtrM/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=ArknightsOfficial-Yostar
2nd: A Cold Call: th-cam.com/video/zJn_Ls-a5Ck/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=ArknightsOfficial-Yostar
3rd: Stained: th-cam.com/video/yiLlbMpe4e0/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=KazdelTeam
Might be one of the Arknights ep songs, you can probably just search up the lyrics
April is a lot more useful than any marksman, since she stays relevant thanks to her one-of-a-kind niche
Quercus should be way higher than B for max, she is actually an excellent healer with masteries and on CN with her module her sanctuary is one of the best in the game.
Doesn't matter, He ranked her thier from hes experience "I respect that"
For the original topic i agree, She is M6'ed 3 months a ago, Since i have seen her module i rushed her mastrys XD
I give her
" A" pre-module
" S " post-module
Fact:Quercus is the 1# reason that made me decide to build Silence The Paradigmatic, And she is worth it100%
My feedback. From a perspective IF I'm new into the game.
I feel it is much harder to cypher your intent with the tier list.
1. I think you should mention why it is based on each sub class or archetype. Where each sub class should has its own tier in regard of usefulness. But tiering the sub class may also making inconsistencies when there is one or two person are super exceptional. Like Ling.
Like you can also point to another tier list that is more standard looking like the Gamepress. And what you're doing is different from them.
Consider if I'm a newbie, I need to get only a handful strong characters First to have a good starting point. Looking at A, S, or OP tier at many sub classes would make them too many.
2. The meaning between e1+L7 and Max is not clear. Like why should someone think to stop to build a character at e1L7 for example.
2B. What is your definition of Max?
e2L90?
Relevant skill(s) at m3?
Or relevant module at lv3?
Maybe also full potential?
Exu and Goldenglow are the example where you need to have them at m3, full pot, full module, max level to see their maximum capability.
Alone Exu without lv3 module cannot kill the artillery spotter drone. She need to overcome its defense bar first. Around 1K i think.
Those who has low attack, high attack speed or many attack multipier. And those who tank (since they could potentially tank from many damage sources) are usually the case.
I would increase Aprils rank or give her a special rank. April is a marksman yes, but her niche is to be a ranged fast redeploy operator which makes her always useful, especially with her camoflague on s2. Its also what seperates her from other marksmans.
I agree, For that reason I gave her a special Sp mark to indicate that she isn't really a normal Marksman.
But you would place her even higher than A+?
Thanks to you I realized her order is wrong based on her ranking so I fixed it for the next version.
Arigatou~
@@cesithsfeetpics7753 Oh, i didnt realised the mark until you mentioned it. Then her ranking can stay the same. Its good enough I think.
For E1 SL7, you ranked Adnachiel higher than Yessica!? Is it because of the targeting priority?
Something I did not intentionally do, Jessica should be B+
I fixed it now.
Thanks for pointing it out ^^
i dont get it what E1+sl7 and MAX is meaning why some one could be worse with max stats?
it basically means how good they are for beginners
Clicked this thinking it was an AK Feet Tier List, shame, I misread that.
Eyja Alter max is OP.
Think it again.
Just because the operator is more 'hard' to use, dont put it into lower tier as long as the operator can do their job. Its because few Doctor have their skill issue. I don't want to say which operator is it, but you can think it again.
Shining isn't the same tier as Warfarin she should be lower, Warfarin brings more value, so S tier for Warfarin. Typhon should be OP Tier, her skill 2 hits harder than Thorns' skill 3 and has good crowd control. Typhon's skill 3 tracks the boss up to the 2nd phase, she will wait until the invulnerability is gone, it's currently one of (if not) the hardest hitting sniper skills in the game.
Myrtle should be the same Tier as Elysium, she's cheaper to deploy, can print DP faster than the other two and has Vanguard healing passive. I do get that Elysium and Saileach prints more DP than Myrtle in the long run, but most of the time you will retreat Vanguards after enough DP is printed in favor of other units.
Nah man Totter max is crazy
Eyjafjalla alter should definitely be in the “OP” tier she’s insanely busted
Silverash should not be S+ at most you use him for stealth detection and Uncle stole most of his use cases
Golden Glow should be S+ tier she’s really good aswell
Myrtle should be OP tier for DP reasons she’s in nearly every team
Bagpipe definitely deserves OP tier (if your not comparing the Ops in a vacuum)
These takes are assuming E2 M9 Maxed Module(if available) using optimal skill
These are my opinions so not objectively correct but just wanted to put them here I’m assuming your comparing ops overall instead of comparing them in a vacuum otherwise everyone would be at least B tier
also I’m assuming your including IS as a factor
Also assuming that the first rating is at E1 SL7 P0 and the second rating is at E2 M9 P0 with optimal skill (so best skill)
Also a little devil on my shoulder is telling me gummy is OP tier
(Nice vid though appreciate you making a general tier list)
Bro got durin E1 SL7. Lol
Aahhh yes, Tequila the pusher defender
Summoner one T T
LOL
According to your brain... I felt it, thats why I never use summoner.... lol
6:37 OH NO NOW CUNNYRUN BECOME REED
Finalllyy
Okay thing that i don't get it
Why maxing ops suddendly making their worst?
In the final Version I will try to make it more clear.
The Idea is that the E1 Rankings and the E2 Max rankings don't have anything to do with each other.
There are 2 Main reasons for for why some Characters have a lower E2 ranking.
Reason 1:
Some Operators get insane Upgrades for making them E2/m3 and giving them a module, while a few barely get any benefit from E2 Modules or Even M3 sometimes.
So if you were to rank them in an E1 Tier list. Their strength is already almost at their max potential compared to other E1. Once you start to level your operator to E2 M3. The once really good operator at E1 Stayed about the same strength while others got some crazy Buffs.
Reason 2:
The E1 Is mainly for Newer players and I put in consideration what kind of Operators perform better in early game.
A shirayuki can be insanly helpfull on many early stages With her being just E1 But once you get to any end game Content She won't be doing much anymore regardless of her being either E1 or E2. That's why I gave her a lower rank.
A bit hard to explain but I hope my thought process makes sense.
The Tier list was always intended to support newer players and I really have to specify more clear that the E1 Rankings are not made for IS or any other specific game modes.
I think you should change the "E1+SL7 | Max" for 2↓★s to something along the lines of "Pot1 | Pot6/Max Pot" for 1★s and "E0 | E0 30" for 2★s.
not like it matters as there's probably almost zero changes and they're very niche but its for the sake of consistency i guess
Too much text
I like the song...song name pleasa?😊
It's typhon's theme song. You can find it on arknights' official channel
Nice video
Edit wtf why is cutter only in A she is clearly a S++ operator I'm not leaving a comment on this video to show that I do not support this decision
Ain't no way my man being biased to Tsukinogi because of me 😔
Personally i feel that the presentation of the difference in power between E1 an E2 is really confusing, for example some have a worse grade over their max which doesn't make much sense as you would think that upgrading an operator to max naturally makes them better the same thing can be said as well for comparing the e1's and e2's of other operators like for example an e1+ sl7 click is the same grade as a maxed out minimalist. I would suggest although i don't know how a better seperation of these info to really emphasize that they are graded with different things in mind or the second option i can think of which is not the best is to grade e1's just lower
can i know the first song name
Mortal Eye. It is Typhon's song.
im newbie can i know what is e1+ sl 7
Elite 1 Skill 7
Imma use this as guide build priority, thanks
What is SL7 mean?
Skill Level 7
@@ediblemussel532 thanks sir
your notation is... original 😆
Ngl it's almost the same as gamepress tier list tho
That's what i said. It's not different enough to need to exist.
"REPEAR" 3:49
According to your own grading,
2:30 Quibai should be ahead of Thorns (you put A+/S ahead of S-/S)
5:50 Warfarin should be ahead of Shining (you put A+/S- ahead of S-/S-)
6:35 Suzuran (labeled as Reed Alter) should be ahead of Angelina (you put A/S ahead of S-/S+)
Not arguing with the grades you chose, but placement of operators are not in accordance of the grades you assigned.)
Nope, it's good, but I'd prefer put it like this thorns>sa>qiubai, since u have uncle mlynar now, there's no need to bring sa anymore, he's more like utility support now
@@Joo00393 Every body is entitled to his/her own opinions as to which operator is better. I wasn't arguing that.
Instead at 2:30 OP was placing A+/S ahead of S-/S (OP's own ranking). Rest were all similar to that.
Gw masih ngakak sama tragedi otak pinjem😂😂
This is just Gamepress' tier list...
1) Vigil is NO WHERE A lmfao, even for welfare only players he sucks ass and his entire class does his job better than him
2) Old operators are still at S+ like SA. They are no longer meta drivers
3) How tf is Yato alter isnt the same tier OP as texas alter? They both are almost same tier on meta standpoint and easily are the best operators in the game
This tierlist needs to be freshened up a little as it feels like its made 2 years ago with operators added randomly today.
pretty sure the person making this barely actually tried the ops and is just parroting but changing some things up to try and look unique.... some of those things make no sense lmfao
@@relolface9756 Eh they made a post saying it was a test but they left arknights a long time ago already. Idk why they are making a tierlist
I was on a 8 month hiatus from January to around august.
Since august I have been back making YT Content and Consistent streams about Arknights.
I missed a lot in those 8 months and have been playing catch up since then.
Various people asked to when I would continue my Tier list. So I choose to give it a try again.
At the moment I am not knowledgeable enough to make tier list alone, so I worked on this with my discord, my twitch chat and now with TH-cam Comments to freshen it up,
It is very important to me that I can deliver on the quality that people expect from a Tier list, therefor I felt it was necessary to release a Beta Version to the public to get as many opinions as possible.
In the end I am the final decider of how certain things are ranked but I will always asked for Feedback to make it as accurate as possible.
If there are any Concrete things that need to be fixed than let me know.
Also Silverash is now on rank S.
As for the other 2 suggestions I will have to get more opinions from the community to make a fair judgment.
@@cesithsfeetpics7753 I completely understand that but Yato and vigil are one of the most widelly agreed operators when it comes to where their tiers are wich is why i mentioned them.
some of these rankings need to be flipped because how can some have a higher rank at e1s7 and a lower rank at max level or am i missing something?
I’m guessing it’s supposed to be ‘ranking at e1s7 when compared to others at e1s7’ instead of comparing with e2+ masteries
Otherwise some ops like thorn would probably be lower due to being so dependent on skill 3
First rating is comparing all operators at E1 skill 7 second rating is comparing all operators at E2 M9 probably? I guess
Lin is my sleeper OP, maxed out she does things my Mlynar could only dream of. Aak can instant charge her too.
Some operators are ranked lower in their maxed version than s7 version, it's an error i suppose, so yeah
i don’t think it’s an error. it’s comparing ops at e1sl7 to other operators at e1sl7. mountain is op compared to everyone else at e1sl7 but he gains less from being fully maxed, so his ranking falls a bit because the other operators caught up slightly,
@@GhjklasGaingyeah this is how I interpreted it too. Operators would have the first box lower in grade a lot if its comparisons across the board.
Saileach S+ really? She's way worse than myrtle.
I hope you think the same when you get Saileah Elite 2
All you are saying here is that you've never cleared a stage without a guide...
I'd put Poncirus at the lowest of the low tier but thats just bias
Z tsukinogi lol