I just bought a RSR G2+ 525. Getting back into the hobby after a 7 year break, and I love these AIOs and kit tanks that come with everything and are designed to have additional accessories without having to modify anything. No more Frankenstein tanks or needing to plan out the plumbing setup.
@arineey4538 it's going very well. The biggest advancements, in my opinion, are roller mats and auto topoff units. They make maintaining the tank SO much easier. They even have a rollermat for the max nano now. I think all G2 models come with an ato unit now.
WWC had a video up last month? 20 gal WB cube that was insane. I like the ease of a 20 gal water change routine. I said it before BRS needs to dedicate a channel to AIO . It will help drive innovation for reefers seeking AIO upgrades & 3D printed products.
I love my red sea max nano. It looks sleek like a beautiful piece of furniture especially if you also get their stand. The lighting is very powerful, i'm only running mine at 60%. I'm not running the skimmer, and i upgraded the Auto top off.
Your not piecing one together for much less. Without light, skimmer and ato its probably a $500 tank/stand combo which puts it in the same price range as all the other aio's
Once I saw it was red sea I was already pricing the tank alone $100-200 higher than waterbox. When he started saying it comes with a stand, light, skimmer etc I knew it was easily going to get around $1000.
Awesome video. I learned a lot. I also subscribed. I have very limited salt water experience, decades of freshwater. Have been wanting to do a reef tank for some time now. This video gives me a little more confidence to try it. Thanks.
Erfahrungsbericht nach 1 Jahr: Das Max Nano hat schwere Konstruktionsfehler. Das Wass läuft innen teilweise über den Rand des Ablaufs anstatt komplett in die Filtersocke zu laufen. Musste selber Stege einkleben zur Erhöhung damit das passt. (Bekanntes Problem) Die Filtersocke ist auch sehr schnell zugesetzt (100 Micron). Dann läuft das Wasser auch über. Ich reinige sie nach Möglichkeit 3 mal am Tag! Der Skimmer ist wahnsinnig laut (bekanntes Problem). Er wurde von mir gegen Tunze 9001 DOC getauscht. Die Förderpumpe ist ebenfalls zu laut (bekanntes Problem). Getauscht gegen Aqua Medic. Mehrkosten von 300€. Die Auslass-Düse sitzt zu weit unten. Guter Ansatz, aber nicht zu Ende gedacht. Der Nachfüller ist unnötig, da zu klein. Jeden 2. Tag auffüllen. Lieber einen Kanister in den Unterschrank mit einer guten ATO. Dann 2 Wochen Ruhe mit Auffüllen. Nochmal 100€ Mehrkosten. Fazit: Mit viel Werbung gepusht und gehypt. Hat viele Fehler. Red Sea hat irgendwie kein Interesse, bekannte Fehler zu verbessern. Zu teuer für die vielen Fehler. Anfänger wie ich kaufen dann eben das Aquarium und ärgern sich. Trotz Mehrausgaben von insgesamt 400€ bin ich noch unzufrieden mit dem Aquarium.
Very thorough explanation of the shortcomings unlike the video that went Gaga over the setup. I figured the components that usually come with the system are almost always crappy and will need an upgrade pretty soon. How is the light? Is it good enough for anemones?
They also made a 'Peninsula' version of this now, afaik. But from what a few buddies who have that tank said, the ATO is shoddy, some third party is a better choice.
My 2 issues with the aquarium. Evaporation rate is crazy high so we put a plexiglass cover. Second, the aquarium gets very loud if you are actually using the water top off. It just sits too low where the float trigger is. All in all - 9/10 tank.
@@BenjiTheStaffy for a beginner? Yes. If you’re serious about the hobby I’d recommend buying a waterbox instead. It gives you way more options so you can upgrade equipment when you’re ready and it’s just better quality.
Listen to Thomas as everything he stated about the tank is correct. I have a 26gal peninsula mixed reef with 27 coral from a clam to sps. Definitely recommend the Nero 3 for this tank. If your budget allows dump the ATO reservoir that comes with it. The main thing with the tank size is always be on top of your water parameters.
It’s too small for practical use. It works though and I was having salinity issues then I changed to an Tunze ATO and 5 gal. container from Innovated Marine. A year later from initial setup I can say I love the tank for what it is regarding the size of a 26gal.
The only issue I have had with the tank is from the return pump ball socket return nozzle seal/adapter. Red Sea sent me out a new one a few months ago and said to use silicon. I tried and failed because of the bleeding of the silicon against the rear sump. Hand tighten only now and it vibrates and have to adjust a couple of times a week which is annoying. Everything else has been solid. The light is cool if you want sps corals. Not the best but it works quite well. Limited to 3 color spectrum. I’m very happy with the tank and highly recommend an automatic ATO for it.
Great Review! My son's and I have had freshwater aquariums since they were basically born. Now at age 15 & 17 we want to try setting up a saltwater aquarium. It seems SO ominous. I, we don't have a clue how to maintain it much less what items to buy for it. Thanks for your feedback on this. It seems to a bit less stressful to try. I keep seeing pictures of Salt Water tanks and quite frankly they look just terrible, aweful. Dark, glass sides full of algae, sand full of algae, waste, etc. I want a tank that is bright, clean white sand, spotless glass and coral that are bight, colorful and well happy. Can this be achieved? My hope with is system it can. Can modification tips will be greatly appreciated.
@@zack10291029 Great starter a small wave maker is all you need nice and cheap and turn the lights down to around 60-70% peak brightness unless your going to put SPS in.
I really wish there was a filter sock for the Redsea max E 170 the same way theres one for the max nano I’m getting tired of rinsing and cleaning the filter sponge on the E 170! Quick question can I just remove the filter sponge on the E 170 what do y’all do? With yours because I seen BRS with max E 170s in a lot of the BRS videos
@@insekured BULLS***!!!! Every tank needs a skimmer! Or you're going to have to do a riduclous amount of work in terms of check nitrate, phosphate, + dead livestock in the morning, etc. Poom + food = toxic overtime.
There is plenty of room for a heater. There is an open space below the protein skimmer. I have a heater and ceramic balls. The area is about 4 x 10 x 3 inches.
Bro i bought a new innovative marine aio 40 gall tank for a couple hundred, added some basic equipment, sink stand from lowes on sale for under a 1k. With some used equipment i have one if the vest reef tanks ive ever had wanting me to have gone bigger
No new reefer should buy anything under a 40 gallon. The parameter swing in a 20g will be much more severe. Only thing this is good for is someone with reefing knowledge wanting something to have a clown/nem tank with probably a gobby shrimp pair
For $150 I can get a fluval or Innovative Marine AIO tanks that are beautiful and rimless with the built-in sump pump and filtration in the back. This is just an overpriced to the extreme and I highly doubt that you spent $1,000 on this on your own, they probably gave it to you for free and paid you to do a video.
The smaller the tank, the harder it is. I would not recommend a nano tank to someone new to the hobby. When I got started, I started with a 80-gallon. I would not start with anything smaller than a 60 if i was new.
It's shocking to see all these clowns stating that a 20gallon doesn't need a skimmer. COuld you imagine giving coral food + feeding the coral a wide range of things + the livestock -- without a damn skimmer? Things would die QUICK!!! ALWAYS HAVE A SKIMER! Even have a skimmer in a 6 gallon prevents dead fish in 2-4 weeks time, period.
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Ive had my Max Nano for 5 years. It was my first reef. If you follow all the basic reefing rules, its not bad for a first timer.
I just bought a RSR G2+ 525. Getting back into the hobby after a 7 year break, and I love these AIOs and kit tanks that come with everything and are designed to have additional accessories without having to modify anything. No more Frankenstein tanks or needing to plan out the plumbing setup.
Mee 2
7 yrs
Just got this tank,
how is it going?? I am literally in the same boat. 7 year break now I want this for my 1 year old (and me)
@arineey4538 it's going very well. The biggest advancements, in my opinion, are roller mats and auto topoff units. They make maintaining the tank SO much easier. They even have a rollermat for the max nano now. I think all G2 models come with an ato unit now.
For anyone wanting to know, there is plenty of room underneath the skimmer to put a heater in.
I put some ceramic balls in mine at the area you’re talking about.
WWC had a video up last month? 20 gal WB cube that was insane. I like the ease of a 20 gal water change routine. I said it before BRS needs to dedicate a channel to AIO . It will help drive innovation for reefers seeking AIO upgrades & 3D printed products.
I love my red sea max nano. It looks sleek like a beautiful piece of furniture especially if you also get their stand. The lighting is very powerful, i'm only running mine at 60%. I'm not running the skimmer, and i upgraded the Auto top off.
what did you do to upgrade the Top off ?
@@pointnozzleaway the original simply did not last long enough, so i put an ATO with a 3 gallon bucket under the stand
1K for a 20gal tank??? F-That
Your not piecing one together for much less.
Without light, skimmer and ato its probably a $500 tank/stand combo which puts it in the same price range as all the other aio's
Its worth it. A decent led light and mount is 500.
Once I saw it was red sea I was already pricing the tank alone $100-200 higher than waterbox. When he started saying it comes with a stand, light, skimmer etc I knew it was easily going to get around $1000.
Add in the alge scrubber at 700 and your almost done 😮
LoL this is how you tell the world you don’t own a reef tank without telling everyone you don’t own a reef tank
This is exactly what i want, i miss my tank and after a 5 year break i want back in!
How good is that skimmer
Looks like a good setup for the more serious Coral & Fish QT
Was in to it big at one time. Looking to get back into it (bedroom) small.
Is there space in the back for the heater or does it have to go in the display?
What the hell? I'm going to get one. Thank you for bringing this aquarium to our attention.
Now was you're chance to say "tank you" and you missed the opportunity
I got one bear bones 400 bucks
Have to buy lights pumps everything
No stand
Awesome video. I learned a lot. I also subscribed. I have very limited salt water experience, decades of freshwater. Have been wanting to do a reef tank for some time now. This video gives me a little more confidence to try it. Thanks.
for the price, I wish it had 45 degree cut glass, a little thing but makes a tank look very nice
Erfahrungsbericht nach 1 Jahr:
Das Max Nano hat schwere Konstruktionsfehler.
Das Wass läuft innen teilweise über den Rand des Ablaufs anstatt komplett in die Filtersocke zu laufen. Musste selber Stege einkleben zur Erhöhung damit das passt. (Bekanntes Problem) Die Filtersocke ist auch sehr schnell zugesetzt (100 Micron). Dann läuft das Wasser auch über. Ich reinige sie nach Möglichkeit 3 mal am Tag!
Der Skimmer ist wahnsinnig laut (bekanntes Problem). Er wurde von mir gegen Tunze 9001 DOC getauscht. Die Förderpumpe ist ebenfalls zu laut (bekanntes Problem). Getauscht gegen Aqua Medic. Mehrkosten von 300€.
Die Auslass-Düse sitzt zu weit unten.
Guter Ansatz, aber nicht zu Ende gedacht.
Der Nachfüller ist unnötig, da zu klein. Jeden 2. Tag auffüllen. Lieber einen Kanister in den Unterschrank mit einer guten ATO. Dann 2 Wochen Ruhe mit Auffüllen. Nochmal 100€ Mehrkosten.
Fazit:
Mit viel Werbung gepusht und gehypt. Hat viele Fehler. Red Sea hat irgendwie kein Interesse, bekannte Fehler zu verbessern. Zu teuer für die vielen Fehler. Anfänger wie ich kaufen dann eben das Aquarium und ärgern sich. Trotz Mehrausgaben von insgesamt 400€ bin ich noch unzufrieden mit dem Aquarium.
Very thorough explanation of the shortcomings unlike the video that went Gaga over the setup. I figured the components that usually come with the system are almost always crappy and will need an upgrade pretty soon.
How is the light? Is it good enough for anemones?
They also made a 'Peninsula' version of this now, afaik. But from what a few buddies who have that tank said, the ATO is shoddy, some third party is a better choice.
I have the peninsula. Definitely ditch the ATO that comes with it.
My 2 issues with the aquarium. Evaporation rate is crazy high so we put a plexiglass cover. Second, the aquarium gets very loud if you are actually using the water top off. It just sits too low where the float trigger is. All in all - 9/10 tank.
For a 22 yr old aquarium beginner, do you think this tank is worth it?
@@BenjiTheStaffy for a beginner? Yes. If you’re serious about the hobby I’d recommend buying a waterbox instead. It gives you way more options so you can upgrade equipment when you’re ready and it’s just better quality.
Thomas always gets a 👍
Listen to Thomas as everything he stated about the tank is correct. I have a 26gal peninsula mixed reef with 27 coral from a clam to sps. Definitely recommend the Nero 3 for this tank. If your budget allows dump the ATO reservoir that comes with it. The main thing with the tank size is always be on top of your water parameters.
Why would you dump the ATO?
It’s too small for practical use. It works though and I was having salinity issues then I changed to an Tunze ATO and 5 gal. container from Innovated Marine. A year later from initial setup I can say I love the tank for what it is regarding the size of a 26gal.
Do you have any concerns about the seals
The only issue I have had with the tank is from the return pump ball socket return nozzle seal/adapter. Red Sea sent me out a new one a few months ago and said to use silicon. I tried and failed because of the bleeding of the silicon against the rear sump. Hand tighten only now and it vibrates and have to adjust a couple of times a week which is annoying. Everything else has been solid. The light is cool if you want sps corals. Not the best but it works quite well. Limited to 3 color spectrum. I’m very happy with the tank and highly recommend an automatic ATO for it.
Great Review! My son's and I have had freshwater aquariums since they were basically born. Now at age 15 & 17 we want to try setting up a saltwater aquarium. It seems SO ominous. I, we don't have a clue how to maintain it much less what items to buy for it. Thanks for your feedback on this. It seems to a bit less stressful to try. I keep seeing pictures of Salt Water tanks and quite frankly they look just terrible, aweful. Dark, glass sides full of algae, sand full of algae, waste, etc. I want a tank that is bright, clean white sand, spotless glass and coral that are bight, colorful and well happy. Can this be achieved? My hope with is system it can. Can modification tips will be greatly appreciated.
but what if i need to add a chiller
Looks good!
Such a great video and very informative I need this asap
Always gets the 👍🏽
Are the footage in this video from the E170?
Guessing that ATO lasts 1-2 days? Wish they incorporated a better system in that regard.
Is this a repost of an earlier video? I swear I saw this one before
gonna pick one up tonight finaly.
I bought this I’m happy but would be happier if there was a sump option.
How many fish could I keep in this tank.
Red Sea just kicking goals at the moment....
Do they do this tank on it's own without a stand?
I bought without stand bear bones 400 bucks
No accessories
Sadly, no longer available ?
No condensation cover...it will create mold in the house
They should bring out a DC version.
Is it possible to ship India?
So all you need is a heater, equipment wise?
Definitely get a wave maker.
@@brian-te4xs ahh true. I got a 300 gallon planted freshwater, I'm wanting to get started into saltwater and thought this would be a good starter
@@zack10291029 Great starter a small wave maker is all you need nice and cheap and turn the lights down to around 60-70% peak brightness unless your going to put SPS in.
I ran the same on the blues at 70% for awhile tell I got some sps and ramped it up to 90% increasing 5% at a time.
I think it is a very good system and looks very nice with stand.
I really wish there was a filter sock for the Redsea max E 170 the same way theres one for the max nano I’m getting tired of rinsing and cleaning the filter sponge on the E 170! Quick question can I just remove the filter sponge on the E 170 what do y’all do? With yours because I seen BRS with max E 170s in a lot of the BRS videos
These guys just love to recommend the most overpriced things they can. Wish they would look into more inexpensive stuff.
Great tank but that price tag…..
I paid 550 bucks for my 90 gallon Aqueon reef ready tank and 30 gallon Eshopps sump for about 150 bucks :/ this is ridiculously expensive.
That would of been a second hand price. Consider that fact this comes with skimmer, light and brand new
@pokastore1760 tank that small probably don't even need a skimmer, livestock should be very minimal.
Well, you are in America. I got a full cycled + 2 fish, coral, feather dusters, light, filter and live rock in an 8 gallon for just 100 USD
@@insekured BULLS***!!!! Every tank needs a skimmer! Or you're going to have to do a riduclous amount of work in terms of check nitrate, phosphate, + dead livestock in the morning, etc. Poom + food = toxic overtime.
I'm not an engineer, but I'm not seeing room for a heater.
There is plenty of room for a heater. There is an open space below the protein skimmer. I have a heater and ceramic balls. The area is about 4 x 10 x 3 inches.
Not a fan of kits but damn, this has everything.
Why is brstv turning into an infomercial for everything now
Bro i bought a new innovative marine aio 40 gall tank for a couple hundred, added some basic equipment, sink stand from lowes on sale for under a 1k. With some used equipment i have one if the vest reef tanks ive ever had wanting me to have gone bigger
Just so u know guys my Red Sea max nano got scraped up pretty bad from those Amazon scrapers so beware use a flipper
Isn't this the one that I have been seeing tank failures all over the internet?
No new reefer should buy anything under a 40 gallon. The parameter swing in a 20g will be much more severe. Only thing this is good for is someone with reefing knowledge wanting something to have a clown/nem tank with probably a gobby shrimp pair
This isnt even the jester of nano tanks 😂
I bet it is king for 1000 dollars and will don’t have a sump or skimmer??
I would already have a Max Nano if Redsea wasn’t smoking meth on the price!!!!
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For $150 I can get a fluval or Innovative Marine AIO tanks that are beautiful and rimless with the built-in sump pump and filtration in the back. This is just an overpriced to the extreme and I highly doubt that you spent $1,000 on this on your own, they probably gave it to you for free and paid you to do a video.
I can buy a house 🤣
Didn't I see this on the other channel a year ago?
$900
Max nano？ mini marco， big small， small big？🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The smaller the tank, the harder it is. I would not recommend a nano tank to someone new to the hobby. When I got started, I started with a 80-gallon. I would not start with anything smaller than a 60 if i was new.
for this price the sand and heater should be included
It's shocking to see all these clowns stating that a 20gallon doesn't need a skimmer. COuld you imagine giving coral food + feeding the coral a wide range of things + the livestock -- without a damn skimmer? Things would die QUICK!!! ALWAYS HAVE A SKIMER! Even have a skimmer in a 6 gallon prevents dead fish in 2-4 weeks time, period.