Blower vs Fan Style GPU
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What is the difference between Blower style GPUs and Fan style GPUs.
And what type do you need for your next Creative Workstation build.
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Blower style doesn't dump their heat back to the case increasing CPU temps and other components, that's important if you are building in a confined space
So ur saying blowers have an advantage over the fans?
@@DogesMemeFactory Blower style cards keep your other components cooler as none of the heat from the card is recirculating inside your case, all the heat from the GPU will be exhausted out the rear of the card near the HDMI ports. In this regard blower style cards are better as your other components like your CPU will run cooler; although blower cards typically run hotter for the GPU as the cooler on blower cards are generally not as big and don't dissipate the heat as efficiently as a fan-style GPU can.
@@DogesMemeFactoryblower style keep your system cooler, at their own expense. Open air cooling cards run much cooler
@@DogesMemeFactoryOnly in desktop cases, but towers absolutely not.
I learn something new every video. Cool that you are doing these shorter more frequent videos now too, with specific info, as it helps when searching.
Glad you like them!
Thank you very much for the useful video, i have been looking for such simplified explanation of GPU types of airflow.
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I much prefer blower gpus they look the part almost stealth like and get rid of the heat out the back of your case, i used to have a open air gpu and noticed my MB temps even with case fans were always a lot hotter than with a blower card and if your running an over clocked cpu you want it as cool as possible and not tons of hot air being blasted up the sides of it from a open air gpu, those gpus can get pretty hot when under load.
I really appreciate this video thanks
why didn't you run the GPUs so that we could hear the noise? I think that most of viwers were here to hear it, except mr. Brent Schmogbert
I wasn’t here for the noise
@@brentschmogbert srry for my mistake
Because he was busy bridging the gap between entertainment and tech
Nope.. just here for airflow
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I do use the Acer Predator Arc 770 who has both, a Blower and a normal Fan. For my old Lian-Li Cases it is a perfekt solution to stake the cards and get a good Temp.
I like how says there's a larger gap if you use two blower styles but shows that the regular 3 fans has a much larger gap between
Another great video 👍
Mo fans mo better.
Blower is exactly what it sounds like.
Hi Mike, I really missed your videos! and I have a question about the blower-type cards, do you have any idea how much air it produce m³/h)?
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Great video.
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No new videos on this channel for last few months. Was hoping to see review of new Intel Xeon vs AMD Threadrippers. In future (post April) comparison of new M3 Ultra vs RTX 4090 for AI image and video generation also.
It helped a lot to understand how they work! The question is though just how loud blowers are? Loke leaf blower?
yes the blower is loud but not so loud you cant work beside it
Thanks just got a rtx 3070 turbo asus thought something was wrong now I know it’s supposed to be louder compared to my other rig with a fan configuration
wow the turbo GPUs are so hard to find.
If you want a leaf blower in your case buy a blower style. I had cross-fired x1800xts and the noise was beautiful if you like loud leaf blower noises while gaming. I have never bought another blower style card because I personally thought it sounded like crap.
very usefull video thanks
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I love blower style models for its compact nature and decent temps/cooling. Only con - noisy !
Came here to check gigabyte 3090 blower model performance
thanks for watching Odin Hardware, check out some of the other videos, as I use the 3090 for all of the tests
turbos look so cool
Yeah
I think it would have helped to open up the cards properly and show how heat transfer happens within. Do the Fan Style Cards get enough heat off the RAM, that usually has no heal removal, thus the chips will age faster.
Hello! I currently have a macbook pro 2019, and I didnt know from the past that I would end up doing 3D work. Now I need a new laptop thats good for 3D architect visualisation on Cinema 4D. Im often on the move, thats why I need a laptop. Do you have any recommendations?
Im thinking on the razer blade 14, with either 3070 or 3080, but you got any thing else?
As i do not recommend looptop for any kind of 3D work as Desktops are faster, even when the specs as marketed as the same. Laptops are just slower due to thermals and power limitations. But if you are going to get laptop, do your research and check the specs carefully before you buy.
Unless you move around everyday, purchase a small form factor PC as these can still be somewhat mobile if you need to travel. and still offer top performance.
Thank you. By the way 3090 founder edition is it blower type? Because I had both founder edition and Zotac and founder edition is a lot cooler when mining same MH/s
The 3090 Founder card is not really a blower style GPU. as it have the blow through FAN at the back that exhausts heat into the case.
Thanks for watching.
Thanks for the explanation, very helpful. Am I right in thinking that blower style cards don't have 0db modes? We bought two GeForce RTX 3080 Ti turbo cards and they are loud as hell, even in idle (1200rpm).
You are correct. Blower style cards would get very hot at 0% fan speed as they have almost no airflow coming through the horizontal channel.
The whole point of them is moving air through the system as much as possible, rather than dissipating heat into the system. They are great for servers, workstations and tight desktop systems or if you just want the rest of your system to get less hot during load (for example to prevent CPU throttling). They are supposed to be loud in a way, because that means they are doing their job. A single fan obviously needs more speed to do the job of three conventional ones. You are sacrificing quietness for lower internal system temperature.
@@schlafanzyk Thanks for the explanation!
@@schlafanzyk
Thank you. Very helpful explanation!
And the higher gpu temperatures aren’t something to worry about?
@@schlafanzyk so they are not good for gaming?
I like to buy the blower cards, because they're cheaper. Then I replace the fan assembly with an aftermarket Raijintek Morpheus GPU cooler. These actually work, although getting all of the heat sinks seated is a pain, as well as the many thermal pads. Mostly, because the instructions suck.
I'm looking for a solution because i no way can work with this noise but i no way can spend much more money because i dont see the sense in spending the money a 3 fan better gpu would cost ! What can i do ? I'm so frustrated, i need the gpu for working but i'm really intolerant to this really unexpected noise....
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Assuming no air restriction, which style cools more effectively? I assume they are comparable albeit the blower will be louder.
How reliable are the blower style fans vs the multi fan?
I ask because I do a lot of rendering. My 3070 is a 2.5 slot card and my 3060 is a 2 slot card. That essentially leaves a half slot of space between the cards and the top card runs hotter because of it. So, I have been thinking about buying the blower style. But I am worried about it only having 1 fan vs 3 fans. If the 1 fan dies, the card is essentially a paperweight until the fan is replaced.
So I would choose the blower style cards as they push the heat outside of the system. Yes only one fan and it is loud. but it keeps dual GPU cooler is a system case.
@@MediamanStudioServices What about the reliability of just relying on a single fan?
@@BlenderRookie if one of the fan in the three fan style cards, it is still a failure. I would not run a GPU on only two fan, you will fry the card.
@@BlenderRookie Just like fans, you can also buy turbo fans as spare parts.
A blower will generally keep your entire system cooler than an open cooler. The card itself may run a little warmer, however.
what are your thoughts on combining 2 GPUs with different cooling solutins? For example the RTX 3090 FE's hybrid flowthrough cooling combined with a gigabyte rtx 3090 turbo blower style.
just curious how would you position those 2 cards together.
Thanks a great question and I needed to think about this one a little. You can use these cards in the same system. As the Fan style turbo GPU is shorter that the FE card. I would have the FE on top, and the turbo on bottom. The turbo fan points down and sucks air up into the card, and should have enough air flow to keep this card cool. but you will still need to have at the minimum 1 PCIe slot between the turbo and the FE card in order to get air flow into the up draft FE fan.
If you install the cards with the FE on bottom, it would be blowing hot air directly into the turbo card intake.
But you would still have the issue of the VRAM on the back of the turbo card and the hot air from this card getting sucked directly in to the FE intake fans. So use a vented PCIe slot cover between the cards and use some case fans to create positive air pressure to push this turbo Vram heat out the back of the case. This design would also get more cool air to the FR Fan that blows out the back of the GPU.
www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/in0a82/airflow_tip_for_inverted_atx_with_rtx30803090_fe/
Thanks for the good question, I hope I answered correctly.
Better option is to aplly water cooling system it slim size, but need more power cosumpion for water pomp.
@@kuzwk I agree but it does add complexity to the system, and this is not for most users.
@@MediamanStudioServices lets say I only have a motherboard (Gigabyte B550 Vision D) with the top pcie x 16 with only 3 slots space and another x16 slot after that. to achive the 1 slot allowance for the dual GPU I thought of the solution of having the dual slot blower card on top and the tripple slot FE card on the bottom. Since the FE card has a feature that turns off the up draft fan (both fans sometimes) when it is not needed, I thought this was an ok solution until I start rendering where every fan in the system would ramp up. Another issue that I just realized while looking at my rig is that the FE card would interfere with the headers and connectors at the bottom of the motherboard which would require me to find 90 degree variants of those cables adding to the requirements.
This mixed card type build was way more complicated that I thought. I was hoping I could retain my motherboard because I have 2 drives in it that is running windows storage spaces in raid0 and I just don't feel comfortable switching boards and run into issues with those drives.
Am I right in saying that most laptops use the blower configuration? Is that why they can be compact but sound like a space shuttle launching?
yes, basically
They are loud because they have tiny fans and made from materials with minimal sound deadening.
My gaming laptop fans are loud
this is a good video but i would love to add some notes, the cards that have multi fan and big shroud and cooling system run really cool and very quietly they don't run hot and they are suited for PC gamers and used for one in a system, the blower style cards run super hot and very loud and they are suited for multi GPU configuration that can be put into a system that isn't sitting next to you on the desk.
Even Nvidia has moved from that blower style design in their Founders cards and opted for more open and airflow centric one.
hi ExoTech DZ, I did not find that the Blower style cards run really hot. They are louder than fan style cards, but "hot". I don't think so.
As for your comment "Even Nvidia has moved from that blower style design in their Founders cards and opted for more open and airflow centric one."
Nvidia has moved away from any Blower style cards and have requested that AIB partners do not make the blower style cards as well.
This is because they do not want anyone to uses these blower style cards in servers or multi GPU workstations. Nvidia is forcing customers to purchase the more expensive RTX Axxx series GPUs for these set up.
It has nothing to do with Hot vs Cooler running design. Its all about money and profits for Nvidia and controlling the market and card design of its GPUs.
@@MediamanStudioServices not really, having a blower style cooler will really push those Vram chips into the their limits, it's not just the GPU, heck even some cards that have dual or triple fan decent coolers struggle to keep the VRAM cool. Nvidia moved from blower style coolers because they can't keep up with the GDDR6X heat output and the overall GPU heat output and this is a proven fact, their GeForce RTX cards aren't highly binned so they end up needing more voltages to run at certain speeds.
@@TechLevelUpOfficial Well then the formfactor on the A5000 and A6000 is not good then? They are blower style GPUs. I know they run as a lower TDP. But I question your facts on the cooling design of GPU and Fan style not being good enough. I an currently building 8 GPU servers and I have a lot of insight to GPU thermal design and the capabilities of how theses devices perform under high workloads. Remember that the GPU fans are not the only factor in keeping a system cool to run at high performance. You need to get the heat out of the case as well. I run my Fan Style RTX3090 at full load everyday and I never run over 85-90 degrees. And this is well within the rated performance specs for this GPU.
Case fans........... are the key
@@TechLevelUpOfficial Blower GPU's have heatsinks on the VRAM chips and the air also passes them to cool them down. Of course the the blower style gpu can cool GDDR6X and if it could not then Asus would not sell the Turbo series anymore.
NVidia and AMD still user blowers for professional cards, because they heat up a workstation's case less.
Personally, I would go for blower. They can actually make your overall system quieter because the CPU will heat up less.
Hi Mike! I recently managed to score a 3090 turbo Gigabyte but keep seeing vids how many gigabyte card keep cracking. Is it an issue with the blower style card to guys? Should I be worried? Also should I undervolte it?
I have one as well and have been running it for over two years with no crashing.
@@MediamanStudioServices Thanks, good to know.
I have one
Would using risers, like they do on minig rigs, solve the issue with fan style gpus? I think that would create some space for air to move around, although looking ugly. I don't know if it would decrease the performance in viewport and while rendering?
yes, but make sure it is a Gen4 PCIe riser and good quality
I,m going to try and do this for my Rig, two TRX 3060, one vertical and one horizontal mount, i just need to wait for the other graphics card to come in and see how long the riser will be. Right now I am using it vertically with a 20cm riser cable.
@@ExigentFilms Good luck, let me know how this turns out
@@MediamanStudioServices yup, hopefully it fits.
I bought an ASUS Turbo RTX 3080 10GB (LHR)
Are this identical to all the other 3080? Are the cooling system the only difference? Its for gaming
yes the only limit is the HASH rate limiting. but all other processing is the same.
Me too
FE is a good option for rendering, do they get hotter? or or is it better than 3 fans?
FE get hot, especially memory. 3 fan mostly gonna be better, go asus or evga. Zotac and gigabyte are really bad
@@blazinghobby7089 evga would no longer manufacture nvidia gpus unfortunately
Mainly the blower runs hotter and much louder, so they're only idea for very small form factor where you don't mind annoying noise.
They’re also good if you have a hot CPU and are using a large air cooler
turbo will always looks better to me
One doesn't buy GPUs for looks.
@@cezarstefanseghjucan wrong
@@mladenbro8435he’s right
no
is the gtx 1080ti blower good for gaming? or is it too loud and old for 2021?
Hi mahmuod abo khalaf, although the GTX1080ti is an older card, it is still good for games. If yo want to see how many pople are using it, check steam database.
store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/?sort=pct
thanks for watching
I put 2 x Gigabyte RTX 3080 blowers on a x570 with 7 fans, and eventually they still get too hot and throttle. Tried open and closed case. I don't know how people are able to work with this set-up for long term use. Also, I don't get why companies don't sell motherboard models with wider PCIe spacing for those looking to work with multiple GPUs. That's literally a new niche segment they could milk some extra money while providing a practical use. Alternative right now is to resort to risers.
I have been using my blower style RTX3090 for months without any issues of over heating. I have a Lian Li 011 case with 9 fans and a been running a second fan style 3060TI in the same system. Get noctua fans for better air flow. Blower style GPU push more heat directly out of the case if the intake is good.
@@MediamanStudioServices can you test games with the 3090 turbo?
best
thanks for watching
@@MediamanStudioServices ок
i wanna buy ai found and i wanna buy the GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 3080 TURBO 10G but im still not sure about cooling and gaming can u brief me pls ? also my cpu is ryzen 5 2600 and 16gb ram but my power suply is 650w and im currently using a 970 as a gpu and i wanna upgrade it but i wanan buy a powerfull card and then later upgrade the other parts but i dont wanna broke anything so i realy need help
I literally bought the exact card used for 500 bucks yesterday.
Arrive today and it can get loud and a little hotter than other cards but it runs fine.
Benching tomorrow and doing some more research. Will let you know if you have questions and I can answer them.
Oh, and I only have a 550 psu xD
It works fine cause the psu limits the card but I’ll definitely look for a new psu within the next couple of weeks.
Buut I have an older cpu Xeon 1230 v2 3,30 ghz with 32gb ddr3 ram and 8 internal harddrives, 2 ssds one win 7 one with win 10 installed.
@@Lock2002ful i just bought one for 550 aswell, i have undervolted it though to make it run less hot and adjusted te fan curve so it isnt as loud when idle.
@@BawzGames
Oh really? Thank you for the comment!
The card crashed on me two times during test playing Doom Eternal and Cyberpunk in 4K, everything maxed out.
Thought it was the PSU but everything kept running just the screen went black.
But since I only have a 550w PSU might be because the GPU didn’t get enough juice, who knows.
During Furmark for several hours I had no issues.
Also the fan went ballistic in the instances before it “crashed”.
I’m gonna buy the 1000 Watt RM1000x from Corsair after having read a looot about PSUs.
Oh, and guess what, you can call me stupid because I took a look at the GPU, unscrewed everything to see if cables and everything were alright aaaand then I accidentally popped off the PCB from the cooler.
I hastily put it back on buut the thermal pads and paste were obviously broken and while the card still runs idle, trying out Furmark I didn’t even get 1.000 points and Furmark closed itself after 30 seconds and the card went over 85 degrees..
Soo, now I have to repaste and get new thermal pads..
Oh man, you can’t imagine how depressed I was after that. Buut, I hope that I can do it and I hope that the card will then run without issue and that I wasn’t ripped off.. （ ; ; ）
Funny thing is, the fan wasn’t loud at all when idle in my case and also not thaaat loud during Furmark (before I broke the bond..)
It just started to go jet engine in the two game tests.
How does undervolting and adjusting the fan curve affect performance and temperatures btw, do you have any data on that?
Keeping my fingers crossed that I can make the card cool again..
@@Lock2002ful how did it work out?
@@hman6159
Oh my, that was a whole thing.
After googling the whole internet up and down, I found some cooling pads that were supposed to fit, watched videos on how to do it, etc. and sweatingly did repaste and repad.
It’s now running without issues. Phew.
It’s still hitting max temp of 85~88 degrees but hot spot and memory temp is about 10 degrees cooler than when I first got it and tested it out.
I don’t know how long this card will last me and quite frankly I’m disappointed how games that released this year like Dead Space Remake, Forspoken and Hogwarts Legacy basically play better on my PS5 but that’s unoptimized pc ports these days.
Unless you have the fastest cpu and a 2000€ gpu you can kiss 4K 60 fps goodbye.
A two year old card should be able to run current games without issue but perhaps I expected too much.
However since I have a big backlog I can say that I’m happy with mostly all games that came before this year.
Would like to upgrade to a 4080 at some point but prices in Japan are ridiculous, basically 2.000$ for a 4080. xD
Blower looks more clean and professional but you can cook something with that 😂
blower have more time use,ur pc have long life more becuase low temp main vga and mainboard ,no dusty inside so u know why reason they discontiel blower in market ,i have one R9 280x blower still working until this time 12 hour / day
Is it good running games?
@@rodolfotsang4327I have a gigabyte rtx 2080ti turbo blower style and I play games with 4k 144hz without problems. It’s loud but do the job done perfectly. And all the heat goes outside case.
Is it realistic to have a Ryzen 59xx series with two 3 series cards, fan style? Would you need risers then? Or could you use eGPU external? Not sure if that affects license, but at least now I have two Redshift licenses.
Hi Barkingshelite, I would go with the Riser cable. I myself have never used a eGPU but to stay directly on the PCIe bus would be the fastest bandwidth for rendering. You can get the Lian Li 011 evo (2021 model) case and use the first slot for the one GPU and the case comes with a bracket to relocate the a GPU on the front/side of the case.
I am releasing a new video today to test GPUs in a desktop system to see if there is any loss in performance on a PCIe 8x/8x system.
Please stay tuned and watch that video
Thanks for watching
@@MediamanStudioServices Thanks Mediaman. I subsequently watched your video on the external PCI cases, that might be an option as well. But also saw your video on the Lenovo thread ripper. That would be a little more expensive than the Ryzen box, but I'm now considering that as well. Great channel, thanks for what you are doing!
@@barkingsheltie thanks for the kind words.
I made a mistake buying a blower GPU because i was expecting louder noise but when i eventually heard It... I wasnt believing how can It be so really awfully loud, it's just unbeareble to stay in the same room and work for hours with that noise, and to me this IS a real problem, i dont know what to do, i probably wont easily sell the gpu and on the other hand it's delivering a good service when It comes to performance... It would be stupid to spend money on some alternative disipation cause thsts the same money a different GPU could cost... I'm really frustrated with this issue, does anybody know about some cheap but reliable solution to cool GPU and VRAM with bigger and quieter fans ?
What gpu do you have? I once owned a blower RTX 2060 GPU and yes it was
really loud, but since I’m not sensitive to the fan noise I was OK with it.
These are what QUADROS use. A2000 12GB, A4000, RTX 5000. It's all a different type!
Thinking to buy Asus 3080 Turbo blower style for mining ? Do you recommend that I get them or get the more expensive fan style ?
hi Jabber, get whatever is available. Its is very hard to find blower style on the market anymore.
Thanks for watching.
Thank you ! What is your suggestions on VRAM temperature?
@@MrJabibravo not sure what you are asking? keep them low......
@@MediamanStudioServices tying to figure out a safe Vram temperature for mining. E.g 95C won't harm the GPU in a long run ?
@@MrJabibravo what damages the ram the most is repeated expanding and contracting, so if you can keep a constant temperature and keep it under 95C then it should not hurt the Vram. But lower is always better. just keep it constant.
Blower always look professional and clean but the temp and noise are shit 😂
From my experience the turbo fan version is just better for your pc.
Can you explain why?
@@joshking5039 you problem
@@Crazynin1 gpu isnt expelling heat inside the case allowing every component to remain cooler
Not if your pc is properly ventilated.
@@joshking5039 The fan spins because it's cooling the card. When it kicks on and off it's because the fan curve is set wrong (which they usually are by default) and you need to set it to stay on at a low speed instead of turning off and letting the temperature creep up until it just blasts the fan.
(Or it could be just broken because it's gigabyte but check your settings first)
Still making blower Nvidia cards. 4070 low pro is one.
RTX 5000 ???
A5000, not rtx
The cooler on the 3060ti is absolutely unnecessary. Half of that would be enough for that puny little piece of silicone.
There IS something they call... Overclock !!!
@@funkiEst exactly how much of an overclock we are talking about here? Because I had one of those and the highest power it managed to pull was 210W. How much heatsink do you think you need for that?
Gigabyte turbo runs way to hot stay away from that card.
@All-In Wonder
That’s something I’m concerned about as well.
Got one used, can test it for two days and then decide.
I think about keeping it. Need some more testing but tbh these cards run fine in itx builds as is with their blowers. If they don’t break I’m inclined to believe that the higher temperatures don’t matter that much?
What do you think?
@All-In Wonder
Thank you so much for your input and sorry for the late reply.
That really gives me some piece of mind.
Thing is I’ve had the 1060 for years and I don’t even remember what I had before that and what the thermals were.
Now that you mention it I think I faintly remember that about 15 years ago I had an AMD card which would run hot like 90~100 degrees and that was fine but it’s been so long and I’m so uninformed these days. 😬
@All-In Wonder Yeah most cards are rated to 110 but it hits 85° and that’s considered “very hot” nowadays. Hell I’d push my card harder if it was only 85
You making me feel bad
I have Gigabyte turbo
Let me make it simple, blower sucks big hot hot
Regular fan style, noisy but cooler and more reliable.
I have a blower fan 2070 super and it's now started crashing on me over time, and i have literally just used it regularly and not forced it to go harder than it can.
Whilst writing this my pc did crash, i had to rewrite.
It's actually the opposite.
@@2011blueman No it isn't.
Blower style on overclocked gaming cards is most likely the problem here. For example, the RTX 4090 goes up to 450W, whereas the RTX6000 is set at 300W.
@@mjnxyz ain even overclocked 💀still hittin like 90 degrees, changed thermal paste on it went down to 85