A part I don't get, is why it's regularly likely to happen that UK and Denmark have 'spare' electricity at different times. And what happens when neither country has enough wind and both are looking to import?
This is excellent! I know that Sweden exports energy to Denmark sometimes, but both have issues exporting to Germany due to a lack of German infrastructure. I wonder if this means Sweden will be able to supply Denmark, whilst Denmark will be able to supply the UK?
- “I know that Sweden exports energy to Denmark sometimes…” Sweden exports electricity to Denmark quite often. Actually Denmark is the second largest recipient of Swedish electricity after Finland. - “...but both have issues exporting to Germany due to a lack of German infrastructure.” According to German electricity import data the country doesn’t seem to have problems importing electricity from Denmark. According to OEC, in 2021 the import was worth $915M. At the same year Sweden, which is the biggest exporter in Europe, exported worth $650M to Denmark, which (as mentioned) is its second largest customer. Anyway, taking into account the fact that from the year 2000 Germany has been almost every year a net exporter of electricity, imports aren’t as critical to it as they are to some other countries. - “I wonder if this means Sweden will be able to supply Denmark, whilst Denmark will be able to supply the UK?” As I already mentioned, Sweden already exports to Denmark a lot, worth $650M in 2021. It’s important to understand that as long as there’s free transfer capacity available, where a country buys electricity from is dictated by price. The UK is currently connected by high voltage lines with Norway, the Netherlands, Belgium, France and Ireland, so the UK has quite a lot of choice. Because in Europe the trade of electricity happens mostly through pan-European power exchanges, the surplus for example in Sweden can end up to UK through intermediary countries. If the price is high in the UK, Netherlands may sell to buyers there, and at the same time buy from Denmark, if the price is lower there. Denmark again may import for example from Sweden. On the other hand, if Norway at the same time generates a lot of electricity, it may sell directly to UK, and the deal between the UK and Netherlands doesn’t happen. The direction of this flow of energy is dictated by price and capacity of transfer, and the situation changes daily, or even many times per day.
The storage answer does exist, the Vanadium Redox Flow Battery standalone seems to be the worlds biggest untold or ignored technologies. It leaves lithium far behind, VRFB do not get hot nor explode and are 100% recyclable, though it's life cycle is indefinite it does need to be serviced after 20 years. China has it, even Australia is getting with the program. It's way past time for Europe to demand it!
@@death_parade still a long way to go with sodium, lower energy absorbtion and high electrode degradation needs to be improved. VRFB's are proven and ready to go!
@@keithtidy186 Agreed. But the biggest turn off for VRFBs right now is the cost of Vanadium. That needs to stabilize and come down. Also Flow batteries in general are more suited to static applications, like grid storage. The companies making VRFB in India are also targeting the grid storage segment. Let us see which direction the market goes though. It is still early days for commercialization of VRFBs. We need to try every single battery tech possible. You never know which option turns out to be the most optimal one.
@@death_parade correct, the VRFB is purely stand alone (static) which is why a mix of tech has its place. Lithium will still supply portable needs as long as ignition problems are addressed. Sodium still has a long way to go but could take place of lithium, maybe. Vanadium appears to be expensive but in the long run it will outlast other tech as the electrolyte does not degrade and the VRFB can be charged even while being discharged and is fully recyclable. Plans are already in place to lease electrolytes and after 20 years it is onsold to steel mills to make high grade steel. As yet there are no means to safely recycle lithium batteries and indeed we now see problems with hard waste fires even in the trucks transporting dead batteries. Sodium may catch up in a few years and hopefully eventually replace lithium but meanwhile Vanadium uptake is making ground, and prices in the long term are already looking better.
@@ascgazz What is the annual Mining supply of Copper, Cobalt and Lithium etc? How much do we need to electrify the World? Once you take your brain out of it's packaging and use it for the first time, you will realise that the Green agenda is total nonsense.
This is one of several projects of its kind currently be constructed, as someone who is currently working on this project I can tell you once all connections are made to other countries it will benefit us greatly, your right there is 24 million house in the UK but our own power grid and power producing infrastructure can cover all 24 million homes easily, which nearly 40% is from green energy, wind doesn't stop, so when you have to much power produced instead of wasting it it nice to pass it on
@@andrewkirk3159 “renewables” are not a a good source of energy.. after 20 years & lots of research it’s clear renewables cannot sustain the energy needs of an entire country Maybe you should read up on thorium!
@@JimPlebeian Perhaps you could answer my question Jim? I couldn’t help but notice you avoided doing so; I wonder why? Rather disappointing but entirely predictable. Get well soon Jim.
@@JimPlebeian How many commercial large scale,non research/experimental, thorium reactors are there currently in operation Jim? Any predictions on national scale electricity prices from thorium based reactors are guesswork/wishful thinking.Seems like you know even less about economics than you do about renewables. Who’s paying you Jim? Oh and it’s your not you’re.
If Japan had an estuary with the second largest tidal range in the world, they would have built a barrage across it 60 years ago.
..when they could have afforded to.
A part I don't get, is why it's regularly likely to happen that UK and Denmark have 'spare' electricity at different times. And what happens when neither country has enough wind and both are looking to import?
Norway turns on the hydro.
Different time zones so the peaks are staggered
@@danielwood2901 Well, that was called the EEC. But then the politicians invented a replacement that absorbed the members money rather than making it
Then you have elecklink connector and u can import from France...😆
With have 3 connectors to France, 2gw under the channel from Falkstone to callis , 1gw vai the Chanel tunnel. And one gw from Southampton to Normandy.
Denmark has insulated homes. Wow what a concept.
Good news for a change. 🙂
I don't think the tortoise would agree
They should of called it
*Dane Stream One*
That poor tortoise 😢
This is excellent! I know that Sweden exports energy to Denmark sometimes, but both have issues exporting to Germany due to a lack of German infrastructure. I wonder if this means Sweden will be able to supply Denmark, whilst Denmark will be able to supply the UK?
No, eat some eggs.
Clown.
Maybe ^^
It’s almost as if they are creating a giant electrical…what’s the word I’m looking for… circuit?
- “I know that Sweden exports energy to Denmark sometimes…”
Sweden exports electricity to Denmark quite often. Actually Denmark is the second largest recipient of Swedish electricity after Finland.
- “...but both have issues exporting to Germany due to a lack of German infrastructure.”
According to German electricity import data the country doesn’t seem to have problems importing electricity from Denmark. According to OEC, in 2021 the import was worth $915M. At the same year Sweden, which is the biggest exporter in Europe, exported worth $650M to Denmark, which (as mentioned) is its second largest customer. Anyway, taking into account the fact that from the year 2000 Germany has been almost every year a net exporter of electricity, imports aren’t as critical to it as they are to some other countries.
- “I wonder if this means Sweden will be able to supply Denmark, whilst Denmark will be able to supply the UK?”
As I already mentioned, Sweden already exports to Denmark a lot, worth $650M in 2021. It’s important to understand that as long as there’s free transfer capacity available, where a country buys electricity from is dictated by price. The UK is currently connected by high voltage lines with Norway, the Netherlands, Belgium, France and Ireland, so the UK has quite a lot of choice. Because in Europe the trade of electricity happens mostly through pan-European power exchanges, the surplus for example in Sweden can end up to UK through intermediary countries.
If the price is high in the UK, Netherlands may sell to buyers there, and at the same time buy from Denmark, if the price is lower there. Denmark again may import for example from Sweden. On the other hand, if Norway at the same time generates a lot of electricity, it may sell directly to UK, and the deal between the UK and Netherlands doesn’t happen. The direction of this flow of energy is dictated by price and capacity of transfer, and the situation changes daily, or even many times per day.
Just because it's imported power doesn't necessarily mean it comes from green sources
right, and yet that will be their number one public talking point.
Well this is a step in the right direction, it relies on cooperation
The storage answer does exist, the Vanadium Redox Flow Battery standalone seems to be the worlds biggest untold or ignored technologies. It leaves lithium far behind, VRFB do not get hot nor explode and are 100% recyclable, though it's life cycle is indefinite it does need to be serviced after 20 years. China has it, even Australia is getting with the program. It's way past time for Europe to demand it!
Sodium batteries are another promising battery tech.
@@death_parade still a long way to go with sodium, lower energy absorbtion and high electrode degradation needs to be improved. VRFB's are proven and ready to go!
@@keithtidy186 Agreed. But the biggest turn off for VRFBs right now is the cost of Vanadium. That needs to stabilize and come down. Also Flow batteries in general are more suited to static applications, like grid storage.
The companies making VRFB in India are also targeting the grid storage segment. Let us see which direction the market goes though. It is still early days for commercialization of VRFBs.
We need to try every single battery tech possible. You never know which option turns out to be the most optimal one.
@@death_parade correct, the VRFB is purely stand alone (static) which is why a mix of tech has its place. Lithium will still supply portable needs as long as ignition problems are addressed. Sodium still has a long way to go but could take place of lithium, maybe.
Vanadium appears to be expensive but in the long run it will outlast other tech as the electrolyte does not degrade and the VRFB can be charged even while being discharged and is fully recyclable. Plans are already in place to lease electrolytes and after 20 years it is onsold to steel mills to make high grade steel.
As yet there are no means to safely recycle lithium batteries and indeed we now see problems with hard waste fires even in the trucks transporting dead batteries. Sodium may catch up in a few years and hopefully eventually replace lithium but meanwhile Vanadium uptake is making ground, and prices in the long term are already looking better.
Tell me that poor Tortoise was ok after filming. 👀
What a scam the whole green BS 😅
What scientific sources do you read?
Any?
I think YOU are BS.
I think you’re a bot. And a cheap one at that.
“😅”
@@ascgazz the same ones U do that's how I know it's shite
@@ascgazz
What is the annual Mining supply of Copper, Cobalt and Lithium etc?
How much do we need to electrify the World?
Once you take your brain out of it's packaging and use it for the first time, you will realise that the Green agenda is total nonsense.
Could take a while for the engineer to arrive at your house when you have a power outage if they have to start testing from Denmark first
Danish engineers have been found and they will.l start mining them next year
There are approximately 24 million homes covering the uk ..this will supply just 1.4 million of them .
This is one of several projects of its kind currently be constructed, as someone who is currently working on this project I can tell you once all connections are made to other countries it will benefit us greatly, your right there is 24 million house in the UK but our own power grid and power producing infrastructure can cover all 24 million homes easily, which nearly 40% is from green energy, wind doesn't stop, so when you have to much power produced instead of wasting it it nice to pass it on
Good to see more CHEAP electricity available. What a shame big business trouser the saving.
WEF AGENDA FAIL
What a trophy for Tottenham
We will pay gas electricity prices, somebody gets rich.
Small cable shown
How many homes and at what price ?
Read the headline ffs
No wonder I don't watch the telly
Do the same with day vs. night other sides of the planet
Only another 66.3 million people to go then!
There are approx 23 million homes in the UK ..
Not everyone lives alone..
Average household is four .
@@Leoviliti1 ever heard the phrase "tongue in cheek"?
With Nuclear Power also it can work, without? I doubt.
Not worried about the name, many of us Yorkshire folk have Viking blood. Jorvik, Viking FM, etc. But anyway, why not convert any excess to hydrogen?
Only 70+ million to go ..
If only they used Thorium nuclear reactors instead ..
Renewable energy is now the cheapest form of energy whilst nuclear is the most expensive; which do you want to pay for?
@@andrewkirk3159 “renewables” are not a a good source of energy.. after 20 years & lots of research it’s clear renewables cannot sustain the energy needs of an entire country
Maybe you should read up on thorium!
@@JimPlebeian Perhaps you could answer my question Jim? I couldn’t help but notice you avoided doing so; I wonder why? Rather disappointing but entirely predictable. Get well soon Jim.
@@andrewkirk3159 oh, you’re answer
I’d rather have a sustainable energy source that’s cheaper than renewables in the long term ..Thorium reactors.
@@JimPlebeian
How many commercial large scale,non research/experimental, thorium reactors are there currently in operation Jim? Any predictions on national scale electricity prices from thorium based reactors are guesswork/wishful thinking.Seems like you know even less about economics than you do about renewables. Who’s paying you Jim? Oh and it’s your not you’re.
We are are a malignant Cancer growing on our host, which is the earth. Does anyone realise that?
Humanity is fantastic, you must be one of the loathsome Malthusians.
I'm 60 years old living in the southwest U.S. I always remember 110 degrees in the summer my whole life.
I’m from south England and always revered regular snow filled winters. Luckily neither of us need to rely on our memories, we have data.
@@edc1569 California Sierra Nevada mountains this year record snowfall and cold temps, snow skiing on the 4th of July at Mammoth, and Palisades.
I would not be seen dead with anything green. Give me coal ANYDAY
If you touch an exposed live wire with your wet fingers you will be seen dead with something green.
None of this will make the slightest bit of difference, clowns the lot of you, or arrogant for thinking you can change the weather.
Terraforming is Humanity's future. Right now, on Earth, we are just beginning to learn the ropes.
Cabling Russia can cut. Great. 🤷🏼♂️
That would be an act of war and would provoke a response by NATO under article 5
Get a grip 😅
@@legin3753 I have a firm grip of reality, what are you gripping?
Or shouldn’t I ask? 🤣🤣
U talking bout the US that cut the Nordstream pipeline
@@KD1977 you’re Russian aren’t you. 😂😂😂
Finally some good news