It's great to see that a white man spent 37 years in prison for a crime he didn't commit. That's what happens to black men all the time. We can't even call this even yet.
I hope hes at least living a luxurious life on government money and never has any worries for the rest of his life. I cant imagine spending that long behind bars, let alone falsely
I believe there was a similar case with a black man, that ended in the man getting about $2000 dollars?? In consolation for his false imprisonment. However; he was so overjoyed to finally have his freedom that he didn't ask for any more money, or any money in the first place
Besides the actual crime they committed,it's so horrible these killers got to go on and live a life,having stolen someone elses life and worse yet if they die before being caught,denying the families justice.
I can't imagine how horrific it must have been for Carolina to find her parents murdered like that that's something you would really struggle to get over
And how strange that it's a random, female drug addict. Who, apparently, has not revealed that they had a partner -- although her boyfriend around that time would have stood to reason.
I think most people would rather commit suicide rather than be executed by the state or live the rest of their life in prison. It seems strange to say "You aren't allowed to kill yourself. You have to let us do it!"
We have a cold case in my hometown. 13 year old boy shot and killed on two daysafter Valentines day 1986 by person(s) unknown. Happened during the early evening hours between 7 and 9. No one heard the shot or saw anything unusual. Even i didn't hear it despite only living around the corner from the parking lot where it happened. It angers me to know that we will likely never know who did it because he and his sister were good friends of mine. RIP Chuck Edit: feb 17 1986.
@@tablescissors he had gone to the store for candy, he ALWAYS had candy and always made sure he had enough for anyone that asked. I dont know the range of the bullet. Its one of those details that was never mentioned. It really wasn't uncommon back then to be out at dusk since that neighborhood was very safe until thst night.
Im so sorry about the loss of your friend! He was so young, wow. What about writing to the Vidoc society that they talk about? Maybe they will take it on and solve it.
It’s amazing how far DNA technology has come, for 30-40 year old cases to be solved. But it’s tough to think about all the times they convicted the wrong person. Just imagine all of the people in prison now for crimes they didn’t commit, or some may have been sentenced to death wrongfully
Luckily, they did forsee the future, and took the samples, even in that time it was impossible to indentify by. It's a huge reliefe for the family just to know what happened and by whome
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Whenever I watch videos like these, it always amazes me how very little evidence they need in order to convict you in some courts throughout the US; and then you find out the person was innocent and lost years of their lives. Really makes you wonder just how many cases are truly still unsolved because they caught the wrong person
I’m intrigued by this one. Typically cold cases don’t ever get solved due to lack of evidences and/or probable suspect(s). Crime cases, in general, are not always given some form of justice to. Families of the victims end up searching for answers for years and years on end until they come to their own end.
I worked briefly as a technical consultant on a bite mark research project at the nearby University, I believed in it. After seeing the data, it is complete nonsense. Hopefully this is the consensus now!? You see what you want to see, it is useless. As mentioned here, you can’t even tell if it is definitely a bite mark let alone identify someone 🙄
So is gun residue and everything else. Unfortunately the way they deal with dna they are going to have a lot of exonerations from that as well because it can be from anywhere and it can be intentionally added as well
I love that spooky background sound track. One of my other favorite channels, Top Mysteries, used it a lot in earlier videos and I haven't heard it since until now. Good work. Nice video!
In my town several men within the span of one year would wind up naked in abandoned lot or field dead of natural causes so they say. I think there were like three or four of them
the death penalty then 37 years for a crime he didn't commit??? Wow! That's utterly terrible I hope this guy got compensation, not that you can put a price on a life spent in prison for a crime you didn't commit!
if you told me in 2010 that a psychic would help solve a murder case i would've took that as a troll comment but the fact the investigators actually got one is crazy
listening to this on the tiny Millersville University Campus right now and gotta say I was not at all expecting to hear it included in a True Crime video
@@yourlocalsnakewithahat1639 having done some traveling and being recent immigrants, I can assure that it is far from "terrible" (including recent European and Canadian trends of locking male rapists & murderers in with female inmates).
So the reason it’s called a crime or fit of passion is due to the method of murder. Stabbing someone to death is a very personal crime. You have to mean it and with every thrust. Especially when they are already dead, to continue stabbing. It’s a very personal method of murder.
A lot of innocent people were sent to prison and death row over dental id's and pour patterns. Both have been proven to be junk science, yet, many of them remain in prison. The price we as a society pay for advancements is forensic science is steep.
Why are all these murderers dripping blood at the crime scene? Were they scratched by the person they killed? It seems like they should have been able to kill defenseless people without dripping blood themselves.
8:45 pm to pick up someone for a basketball game? It might happen now, if a school is trying to get tv coverage, but I doubt they were that common at that time. Just seems odd.
What about a little continuity fellas? I mean when a murder case from the 70s has somebody dialing a smartphone just kind of takes the sting off the whole story LOL
So how exactly does the life + number of years prison sentence work? Once the person dies in prison, do they leave the corspe in the cell for the number of years?! Lol...
My opinion is that once they die they should be plotted in an unmarked grave on prison property for the remainder of the sentence before they can be returned to their family
When a man murders another inmate while serving a life sentence with no possibility of parole, what difference does another life sentence make to such a man? What justice is there in that scenario for the dead inmate? Can someone who is against death penalty answer those two questions.
When children are born you can see patterns if you get them help young they might night become monsters shame to these parents shame to those who didn’t step up to get these monsters help
Has anyone asked already why the reenactment clips were not African Americans, like the victims? Seems like it wouldn’t be hard to find relevant, respectful footage. (Second case)
@@kennethclaar922 He showed their picture, so they aren't protected. We know what they look like. Lisa was just referring to the stock photography used when describing the case.
I hate the stories where the killer dies before justice can be served here on earth but they will have to answer for their crimes to the ultimate authority, God.
FWIW, as much as I appreciate your videos, I find the B-roll too distracting. I'd rather just see photos of the people or maps of the areas where they were last seen etc.
Interesting video! Just one note on the pronunciation of Vidocq society. Named after a famous French criminalist, it's pronounced with an "ee" sound, not "ai".
Not even bite marks?! That kid was going to lose his life going by that. & Have you seen how many cases where the coroner got the cause of death wrong and innocent parents (& others) went to prison? It's like you can't trust anything!
the fourth case is so F'd up. how was he walking the streets after a rape and attempted murder of a different young lady at an earlier time?! so stupid. those two young ladies would be alive if he went to prison for life after that first time!!!
@@petyachakarova Not correct. He testified to that effect at the trial, failing to mention the doubts that he had. A quote from Souviron in 2013: _"I changed my mind," Souviron told the Times. "I've had, what, 20 years more experience or 25 years more experience. At that time, I'd done only maybe a dozen cases."_ So he first made the wrong call and only changed his mind years later. Please don't invent claims.
imo if a killer dies before they can be punished theyre body should be thrown in the forest and left to rot (a forest where ppl dont hike plus a sign that explains, dont wanna give random hikers trauma!)
I lived in more up-scale apartment complex for half a year with 2 friends, 6 years ago. Never had any problems with anyone nor heard or even knew my neighbors. And that's the way I liked it.
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Wow... 1st case, that kid was 18 and put in prison... Falsely.. for 35+ years???? That's.... So sad
Years you can’t get back
It's great to see that a white man spent 37 years in prison for a crime he didn't commit. That's what happens to black men all the time. We can't even call this even yet.
I hope hes at least living a luxurious life on government money and never has any worries for the rest of his life. I cant imagine spending that long behind bars, let alone falsely
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I believe there was a similar case with a black man, that ended in the man getting about $2000 dollars?? In consolation for his false imprisonment. However; he was so overjoyed to finally have his freedom that he didn't ask for any more money, or any money in the first place
It bothers me so much when they find the killer after he has lived his entire life.
Same! Either it’s lack of evidence, leads, or just don’t care to look into the case.
It is what it is
It bothers me that an innocent man spends 37 years in prison because the supposed experts got it wrong.
God is the final judge
Anything God does is 10 times worse then what we can do
@@debralorenzen2637 God didn’t help the poor guy in prison for 37 years.
The cops LOST the letter ? That was prime evidence for Lindy 😢
i think they were purposefully negligent
@@bellakierstenlyn9460 me too
Besides the actual crime they committed,it's so horrible these killers got to go on and live a life,having stolen someone elses life and worse yet if they die before being caught,denying the families justice.
I can't imagine how horrific it must have been for Carolina to find her parents murdered like that that's something you would really struggle to get over
And how strange that it's a random, female drug addict. Who, apparently, has not revealed that they had a partner -- although her boyfriend around that time would have stood to reason.
You DON'T "get over it." Omg.
Any loss is a struggle but seeing someone you love murdered... i can't imagine that person ever gettin good mental health again. Horrific and tragic.
imagine getting 37 years of your life taken away after your life was just starting at 18 for shit you didnt do
I so hate when the perpetrator takes the cowards way out by commiting suicide rather than face up to their crimes
I think most people would rather commit suicide rather than be executed by the state or live the rest of their life in prison.
It seems strange to say "You aren't allowed to kill yourself. You have to let us do it!"
@@greywolf7577 yeah sure, but it doesn't make it any less cowardly
@@greywolf7577 this is true and it is human nature but nonetheless doesn’t make it any less infuriating for victims and their families
I’d rather not pay to feed them on death row. They do us a favor.
A small comfort: at least they save the tax payer a lot of money.
We have a cold case in my hometown. 13 year old boy shot and killed on two daysafter Valentines day 1986 by person(s) unknown. Happened during the early evening hours between 7 and 9. No one heard the shot or saw anything unusual. Even i didn't hear it despite only living around the corner from the parking lot where it happened. It angers me to know that we will likely never know who did it because he and his sister were good friends of mine. RIP Chuck
Edit: feb 17 1986.
Do you know, was he shot at far or close range? Why was he in the parking lot at that time?
@@tablescissors he had gone to the store for candy, he ALWAYS had candy and always made sure he had enough for anyone that asked. I dont know the range of the bullet. Its one of those details that was never mentioned. It really wasn't uncommon back then to be out at dusk since that neighborhood was very safe until thst night.
Im so sorry about the loss of your friend! He was so young, wow. What about writing to the Vidoc society that they talk about? Maybe they will take it on and solve it.
yeah definitely should get out there online to try to get it solved
I pray you will find the answer. I know you will. 🙏 Believe.
“The DA hired psychics.” Ah! My tax dollars hard at work!
Lol
It’s funny now but that use to be a thing. Probably out of desperation more than anything.
I got to that part and was like what???
It’s amazing how far DNA technology has come, for 30-40 year old cases to be solved. But it’s tough to think about all the times they convicted the wrong person. Just imagine all of the people in prison now for crimes they didn’t commit, or some may have been sentenced to death wrongfully
Luckily, they did forsee the future, and took the samples, even in that time it was impossible to indentify by. It's a huge reliefe for the family just to know what happened and by whome
DNA can also set you free.
that's one of the reasons why the death penalty is a retarded idea
"the letter was written by either a female or male.." thats some good police work, Lou
"the culprit definitely, maybe had opposable thumbs"
Always positive that a cold case gets solved, keep uploading my friend.
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23:23 "They lived in Cleveland Texas" - proceeds to show a picture of Cleveland Ohio
Whenever I watch videos like these, it always amazes me how very little evidence they need in order to convict you in some courts throughout the US; and then you find out the person was innocent and lost years of their lives. Really makes you wonder just how many cases are truly still unsolved because they caught the wrong person
I’m intrigued by this one. Typically cold cases don’t ever get solved due to lack of evidences and/or probable suspect(s). Crime cases, in general, are not always given some form of justice to. Families of the victims end up searching for answers for years and years on end until they come to their own end.
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Nah, when they first happen they have no way to test the evidence. Then years later someone says hey maybe we should check this stuff and boom
Words that I said
May I recommend the ‘Adventures With Purpose’ channel here on TH-cam?
They have solved several cold cases….unique ones.
@@debbieflaherty1975 I was just watching them last night
I worked briefly as a technical consultant on a bite mark research project at the nearby University, I believed in it. After seeing the data, it is complete nonsense. Hopefully this is the consensus now!? You see what you want to see, it is useless. As mentioned here, you can’t even tell if it is definitely a bite mark let alone identify someone 🙄
ikr, 37 years in prison, ouch
It's totally fake
So is gun residue and everything else. Unfortunately the way they deal with dna they are going to have a lot of exonerations from that as well because it can be from anywhere and it can be intentionally added as well
I was browsing TH-cam and found your channel by chance. It's the best thing that happened to me today, because I love your content,
Few muslim guys are troubling me i need help
I love that spooky background sound track. One of my other favorite channels, Top Mysteries, used it a lot in earlier videos and I haven't heard it since until now. Good work. Nice video!
It is wild when you hear of one of these stories that happened in a place you've been to.
I'm always happy to see when you post!
a mass murderer and a serial killer are not the same thing...
These cases are getting more anf more interesting. Please Mr. Mysterious 5 continue with your videos.
Even the killers faces look like they're psychos. Gives me a creepy feeling
Beautiful voice, Thank you for this stories, may the family find peace .God blessings over all 🙏❤🕊🌿🌹
In my town several men within the span of one year would wind up naked in abandoned lot or field dead of natural causes so they say. I think there were like three or four of them
Holy shit!
Serial killer cop/politician or relative.....
That's my best guess and seems to have higher odds of being correct 🤷
Id love more information..sounds like a case id like to speak about on my channel
What's your town?
@@notablynova def cop/politician related. possibly a death cult involved
At least there is some closure for the families.... so very sad.... prayers to the families.... thank you for a very comprehensive video!!!
Im new to the channel, but im alreay hooked.
Always worth the wait to see an upload from this channel
I’m going to school in Huntingdon, it’s a small town so I was quite shocked to hear such a saddening murder occurred here
the death penalty then 37 years for a crime he didn't commit??? Wow! That's utterly terrible I hope this guy got compensation, not that you can put a price on a life spent in prison for a crime you didn't commit!
if you told me in 2010 that a psychic would help solve a murder case i would've took that as a troll comment but the fact the investigators actually got one is crazy
Coffee made and ready to watch!!
Thank goodness, I can tolerate the voice telling the stories thanks.
for real, no squeaky voices, please!! lol
Do you know how fucking mad I would be if the police lost a letter involved in a family member’s case but then hired two psychics?
listening to this on the tiny Millersville University Campus right now and gotta say I was not at all expecting to hear it included in a True Crime video
America's justice system is just terrible
Not compared to a lot of other countries.
But, the beautiful thing is that you can join and be a part of the solution -- instead of just griping.
Not just american
@@yourlocalsnakewithahat1639 having done some traveling and being recent immigrants, I can assure that it is far from "terrible" (including recent European and Canadian trends of locking male rapists & murderers in with female inmates).
@@tablescissors you know, at this point i'm kind of afraid of police...
i hate how many women were killed
Thank you so much for uploading this video. It is helping me get through the pandemic!
Wtf, the pandemic is over with…
It’s ok to go outside now Rog
What pandemic
we have alot of unsolved cases in joplin mo, probably drug related
‘Fit of passion’? Stabbing someone to death isn’t passion. Fit of insanity, crazed murder, fit of pure evil….but not passion.
I think they meant' Crime of passion' which is a sudden strong impulse such as anger rather than as a premeditated crime.
Tell me again how much you don't know what the word passion means Frank
Hats off to those people who work to solve cold cases and bring the family some closure. You are doing gods work.
So the reason it’s called a crime or fit of passion is due to the method of murder. Stabbing someone to death is a very personal crime. You have to mean it and with every thrust. Especially when they are already dead, to continue stabbing. It’s a very personal method of murder.
@@Mikcha212 Frank thinks passion just means fucking
nice work as always mysterious.
I wish they would solve Maura Murray and the Springfield 3
I just wanna say the narrator has a gorgeous voice
Handwriting 'experts' have been debunked in several studies...It's amazing they still exist, and it's as accurate as phrenology.
Wow lindys case is so close to home live right by Lancaster 😭
A lot of innocent people were sent to prison and death row over dental id's and pour patterns. Both have been proven to be junk science, yet, many of them remain in prison.
The price we as a society pay for advancements is forensic science is steep.
The "innocence project" gets so many killers freed from it would be nice to believe they actually get innocent people released !!!
Why are all these murderers dripping blood at the crime scene? Were they scratched by the person they killed? It seems like they should have been able to kill defenseless people without dripping blood themselves.
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8:45 pm to pick up someone for a basketball game? It might happen now, if a school is trying to get tv coverage, but I doubt they were that common at that time. Just seems odd.
for real, people got away with so much in the 80's that it sparked the DNA generation... yea, no way 8:45 was appropriate back then
Hahahah my exact thoughts on that scene 🙈, that was really late for that country
What about a little continuity fellas? I mean when a murder case from the 70s has somebody dialing a smartphone just kind of takes the sting off the whole story LOL
All the 5 cases , we did not get to know why the killers did that 😑
What we do in the darkness will come into the light
Why was the video reuploaded?
better voice now
So how exactly does the life + number of years prison sentence work? Once the person dies in prison, do they leave the corspe in the cell for the number of years?! Lol...
My opinion is that once they die they should be plotted in an unmarked grave on prison property for the remainder of the sentence before they can be returned to their family
Life is only 25 years. So 25 years +15 years after.
You mean life is not till you die ?
When a man murders another inmate while serving a life sentence with no possibility of parole, what difference does another life sentence make to such a man? What justice is there in that scenario for the dead inmate? Can someone who is against death penalty answer those two questions.
Wow I lived in spring manor😳
When it happened
A narrator that says "ecscape" is a bit of a put off
The great 'eggscape'.. 😂😘
We have two cases solved here in lancaster pa . From like 30 years ago .
man they really pulled a seinfeld for that first one
Most of these are so sad. The last one is especially sad considering Carolina had already lost another family member no that long before .
Psychics and handwriting “specialists?” No wonder they can’t find anything 😂
Ty for solving it telling us the killers too bad for women. Ss sorry
I've watched enough of these to know if you're a girl and a "free spirit" you gon' die.
When children are born you can see patterns if you get them help young they might night become monsters shame to these parents shame to those who didn’t step up to get these monsters help
Or take them out at the first signs of red flags.
We have enough monsters in the world.
If I had a brat showing red flags...they probably won't wake up next morning
@@j.khuster2024….wouldn’t that then make you a monster too?
Has anyone asked already why the reenactment clips were not African Americans, like the victims? Seems like it wouldn’t be hard to find relevant, respectful footage.
(Second case)
because they create the most crimes but are protected
@@kennethclaar922 He showed their picture, so they aren't protected. We know what they look like. Lisa was just referring to the stock photography used when describing the case.
I hate the stories where the killer dies before justice can be served here on earth but they will have to answer for their crimes to the ultimate authority, God.
Scary. Men. Who should have never been born the first case scarey. Monsters
FWIW, as much as I appreciate your videos, I find the B-roll too distracting. I'd rather just see photos of the people or maps of the areas where they were last seen etc.
Interesting video! Just one note on the pronunciation of Vidocq society. Named after a famous French criminalist, it's pronounced with an "ee" sound, not "ai".
I deadass thought that was Debbie Gallagher
XD
Saddest part is all victim are women and all killer are men.
Did you not watch the last one?
It's es-cape not excape... and dubwa no daboys.
Not even bite marks?! That kid was going to lose his life going by that. & Have you seen how many cases where the coroner got the cause of death wrong and innocent parents (& others) went to prison? It's like you can't trust anything!
It helps a little to go to 1,25 speed on video, then the annoying voice is slightly easier for the ears
the fourth case is so F'd up. how was he walking the streets after a rape and attempted murder of a different young lady at an earlier time?! so stupid. those two young ladies would be alive if he went to prison for life after that first time!!!
The narrator sounds like the TH-camr MrLboyd
Good lord imagine getting outed by a letter
The constant annoying bombardment of your ads make it DIFFICULT TO ENJOY THEREFORE ITS A HARD HELL NO FOR ME.
I will never understand the police departments that hire psychics as if thats a viable resource.
These stories are just head scratchers! I mean… sounds like weird crap went on. I’m sorry for the family left behind. Bless you all🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽😢😢😢😢🌃
especially, not expecially...
20:01
why are there SO MANY footshots in this
I am a dental tech and our lab does work for Dr. Souviron. He is a very good dentist!
Yet he couldn't recognise that he wasn't looking at a bite mark.
Very good on putting an innocent person in jail you mean.
@@godfreypigott he actually did but they've completely ignored him! The police was absolutely convinced this guy was guilty.
@@petyachakarova Not correct. He testified to that effect at the trial, failing to mention the doubts that he had.
A quote from Souviron in 2013:
_"I changed my mind," Souviron told the Times. "I've had, what, 20 years more experience or 25 years more experience. At that time, I'd done only maybe a dozen cases."_
So he first made the wrong call and only changed his mind years later. Please don't invent claims.
@@godfreypigott he said the guy would be missing a tooth, at least?? lol
Maner Reyna. And they stalk me around. Dollar general and liquid on Carver Rd Modesto CA
Does America have a justice system?
It ain’t worth ish. Only select people and crimes matter.
Sounds like Simcak was a hit man, but hired by whom?! Her husband, a jealous lover, who knows?!
A full day of the same torture for every month they live free before getting caught
14:54
DAs hired psychics?
Really? That's a thing?
imo if a killer dies before they can be punished theyre body should be thrown in the forest and left to rot (a forest where ppl dont hike plus a sign that explains, dont wanna give random hikers trauma!)
20:18
I hate apartments. I would never live in one again. Lived in one in 1978. It was awful. Rude noisy neighbors. Disgusting!
Well to be fair, one experience doesn’t portray all apartment buildings.
I lived in more up-scale apartment complex for half a year with 2 friends, 6 years ago. Never had any problems with anyone nor heard or even knew my neighbors. And that's the way I liked it.
8:51
The black spur Healesville the location..
8:54
Lindy didn’t use a cell phone. Stop phoning it in.