actually the fighting designs were used in kingdom hearts fight for friends on the switch. these assets later go repurposed into disney dream light valley.
I thought BBS volume 2 would take place after KH3 now that that trio is back together, and we still don't understand a lot about Ventus/Vanitas and even still some things about Terra.
Ooooohhhh!! That in the beginning concept art looks super interesting! Makes me wonder if it was something of a prototype to Ux or perhaps Missing Link. Bit of stretch, but you never know. Hope we actually get a full on KH art book here in the west sometime soon. The ultimanias were fine and all, but a good chunk of the behind the scenes/official artwork took up the last 3rd of the book, if that.
Honestly, a stand-alone Gumi Ship has some serious potential. The story could be something similar to Kari and company looking for Sora. While the gameplay could be a mix of the on rail levels of Kingdom Hearts 2 and open world gameplay of Kingdom Hearts 3. This hypothetical game would have some insane multiplayer potential with players building ships and competing in different game modes.
We all know Tetsuya Nomura! They gave us a teaser in kh3 remind with the wayfinder trio going into the realm of darkness. Birth by sleep volume 2 will happen. I feel it!
I don't think I want the direction to be "all trios exclusively go on missions with their respective trios" I think the cast should be more blended moving forward. Now that everyone's back and they're all familiar, I'd love to see the characters interact with others and be put on missions with others, which is way more realistic. I'd love to see character interactions between Roxas and Riku, or Roxas and Ventus, or even Axel and Ventus.
I'm still pissed that Fragmentary Passage (aka BBS volume 2) was cut down to be a [crusty looking] tech demo and not a full game [and in the original engine] as originally intended
3:08. Worlds that would have been featured in the cancelled Fragmented Keys game included Aladdin, Alice in Wonderland, Peter Pan- already feature in KHI Wreck it Ralph- feature in a different mobile game instead. Frozen and Tangled- feature in KHIII Lilo and Stitch- feature in Birth by Sleep and left forgotten afterwards Star Wars- might be feature in KHIV Tron- featured in KHII and Dream Drop Distance Snow White- feature in Birth by Sleep
Treasure Planet & Atlantis would be the tits. I know people hated Atlantis, but I thought it was ok Treasure Planet might be possible, especially since Treasure Island is public domain & won’t have any roadblocks
I knew it there was definitely a star wars world in kh fragments keys unfinished with the star wars world missing the one Nomura didn't add to the list. And the same thing for Atlantics the lost empire too.
Fragmented keys actually played like a normal kh game and story progression. Similar combat. Except it had a zip mode that you could use grind to different areas in a map
Man I'm still hoping for another kh game where you not play sora and after the ending of kh3 there are so many possibilities like another game where you play Aqua Terra and Ven uncovering more about the lost masters and daybreak town or maybe a game about Kairi and her journey to truly become a great keyblade wielder I also always thought it would be awesome if instead of Donald and Goofy Kairi would travel with Daisy and Minnie or another possibility being a new game about Roxas Lea and Xion but if it's supposed to be something fresh the Kairi idea is my favorite
I would hope for a BBS 2 since we still havent gotten a fleshed out version of Ven and Terra playstyles(I dont count mods).Its story could revolve around whatever the trio was doing in the ROD while searching for Sora/a means to find him.
Super interesting! I especially loved the concept art, and worlds we could have had, for Fragmented Keys. It's a shame we didn't get these, but I think some things worked out for the better. Thank you for researching these topics and spreading the word! ❤️ I would love to see a proper BBS Vol. 2 with the Wayfinder Trio in the future, to see where they're heading. We now know Ventus' backstory, but I've always wanted to know where Terra and Aqua came from, and how they met before BBS, so that would be interesting to explore. Maybe you could theorize on that in a future video, if you haven't already! ☺️
@@ProdigyxCD I'm glad you think so! One of these days, I'll have the guts to come up with my own theory videos, lol. Looking forward to your next video and seeing what you come up with 😊
Even if we don't ever get BBS Vol. 2, the secret episode at the end of BBS and 0.2 were fantastic enough for me to be satisfied lol. Thank you for another fun video! God be with you out there everybody. ✝️ :)
Been saying it for awhile, KH and Versus were going to be combined at some point. So that's why Verum Rex doesn't surprise me. Likely Verum Rex might have been fully greenlit recently too. Can't wait ^^
I honestly don't remember the timeline exactly, but it felt like it took place right before the third game. The gameplay was incredibly smooth and I have never felt a mobile game be so smooth since. They had a grinding function where you could zip grind all over the town mopping the floor with the enemies. I was I had gotten gameplay footage before the game was taken offline.
@@adrielalonso1026 nope just wanted to see what star wars would've been like for kh, but good point but I hope it makes it on kh4 is the hope, what better story for light, and darkness then lightside, and darkside of the force.
@@Gamefit28 Perhaps they cancelled it because they decided to move it to KH4. People have been wanting Star Wars for a long time, so it would make sense to have it on one of the main games instead of the side ones.
hear me out i would love to pay for a kingdom hearts online like an mmo. have the keyblade generate after a set of questions to and your name stuff like that would be sick as hell!
Also Union X and Dark Road got cancelled in a way, but were kept as story repositories. I feel like BbS pt2 would fall after 4 because after accerating training for Kairi and Lea/Axel, I wonder if merlin amd the good fairies have enough power to do the same to retrain Ven and Terra, I also wonder if Former Master Yen Sid would be their trainer. I have a feeling that Mickey, Donald, and Goofy will join the main trio, so King Mickey would be out of the question to be their (Ven and Terra's) trainer.
The fandom'll lose it if Nomura mentions in KH4 Ultimania how the concept of bridging a Versus XIII aesthetic world with KH was that mystery game. It's hard to fathom how different things could've been if that mystery game was made instead of DDD. But I mean, essentially it could work. Just replace going to Sleeping Worlds for Mark of Mastery Exam with going to "weird realistic world." Neku's comment about Shibuya could've been a remnant of the idea, unbeknownst to any of us 🧐. It's the longest of long shots. But, it'd be hilarious if the cancelation of Versus XIII, inadvertently led to the unearthing of this "...what?" idea for KH, with the added ability to save some Versus XIII ideas and put it all in KH4. Either way, now amped myself up to hear his secrets about coming up with unreality (and the very touchy SE subject of Versus XIII, that he's slowly allowed to say by name again) that we'll probably only hear in the KH4 Ultimania unless he can mention it in interviews leading up to KH4.
Missed a big one. Dissidia started life as a Kingdom Hearts fighting game that was Smash meets Chain of Memories cards. Disney didn’t like their characters fighting in this way, and the project shifted to Final Fantasy.
"not counting final mixes, re:mixes, and movies" and counting Chains of Memories and RE:Chains of Memories as well as Chi, Union Chi and Chi Dark Road as separated
well re chain of memoreis are a total diffrent game, just same story, i mean its redone from scratch to another platform. but he chi, union and dark road should be the same, and isnt melody of memories a DLC to kh3?
@@StrikeDuelist if CoM and ReCoM are different games then 3D Dream Drop Distance and HD Dream Drop Distance should be concluded different games as well, but that's still a remanatered, and since they lost the original KH1 files because bad archiving habits of 2000s, then kingdom Hearts 1.5 re:mix should also be a different game since they remade most if the game from re:verse re:engeering a retail copy of the game
If you look at all the titles minus chain of memory’s and only counting re:chain memories since they both tell same story but re:chain adds new things that all 13 games xehanort is in all 13 games in some shape even he’s previous life or xenanort medals in game or form even melody of memories flashback even fight him seems like our favorite Director wanted to add him in the last game bump him up to that magic 13 number he loves 😏 I wouldn’t say he’d do anymore flashbacks for xehanort or data version cutscene’s maybe they mention he’s name in conversation or data studies future games help process something they looking for. There is the chance he’d show up on recording video studies if KH team wants that but yeah so far now 13 games showed up past life or different forms or young or old or data or memories version of him
Seems to me that BBS 2 was just broken up into Coded, DDD and 0.2. As much as I love 0.2 I’m not sure how you could really expand that much on what we got and I think it works way better as the prologue to KH3 like twilight Town was for KH2. I play it that way despite it being broken off but it lets people who want to just jump right into KH3 on subsequent playthroughs.
Wasn't there some bat shit insane rumor that stated that Final Fantasy: Versus XIII was actually supposed to tie into Kingdom Hearts at one point? Because KH having Fabula Nova Crystalis lore would have been insane.
Disney only kh games ar cançelt becaus of Nomura Nonura ist involfed in them AMD ultimatly if He says No disney has to kinda let These Things go. Its a colaboration and anything without square means it cant be kingdom hearts. They even say they dont realy own kh nomura does
Kingdom Hearts Missing Link. It's a mobile gacha game and is meant to explain the missing link between Unionx and Dark Road. It will be 3D and have features similar to pokemon go with exploring through AR. There is no release date for it.
I hope Kingdom hearts 4 doesn't come out until we rid all the lgbtq people from the studio. I'm happy that it doesn't come out for a few more years The last thing we need is a world where Sora is a girl then I'll have to destroy my whole collection
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I saw kingdom hearts 4 trailer love how it shows verum Rex looking down at riku they look so similar to each other
You forgot the Kingdom Hearts fighting game that later became Disiddia.
Actually it was revamped to 358/2 days. The fighting concepts moved to final fantasy instead
actually the fighting designs were used in kingdom hearts fight for friends on the switch. these assets later go repurposed into disney dream light valley.
_AKCHEWALLY!_
@@AdiG1 literally😂😂
theres a disssidia with oh?
"I also told the producer about this recently, and he said, '...what?'"
Good to know the producers are on the same page as the rest of us.
I thought BBS volume 2 would take place after KH3 now that that trio is back together, and we still don't understand a lot about Ventus/Vanitas and even still some things about Terra.
Ooooohhhh!! That in the beginning concept art looks super interesting! Makes me wonder if it was something of a prototype to Ux or perhaps Missing Link. Bit of stretch, but you never know. Hope we actually get a full on KH art book here in the west sometime soon. The ultimanias were fine and all, but a good chunk of the behind the scenes/official artwork took up the last 3rd of the book, if that.
It did feel like they wanted to make an MMO about the keyblade war.
Honestly, a stand-alone Gumi Ship has some serious potential. The story could be something similar to Kari and company looking for Sora. While the gameplay could be a mix of the on rail levels of Kingdom Hearts 2 and open world gameplay of Kingdom Hearts 3. This hypothetical game would have some insane multiplayer potential with players building ships and competing in different game modes.
gummi ship racing game
Fragmented keys actually had a bomb AF gumi ship editing system.
A Gummi ship game where you just fly around in that? Lmao noo fuckin thank you mate. Gummi ship shit was the worst part of kh2
We all know Tetsuya Nomura! They gave us a teaser in kh3 remind with the wayfinder trio going into the realm of darkness. Birth by sleep volume 2 will happen. I feel it!
I actually kinda wondered about that too lol.
God bless! ✝️ :)
I don't think I want the direction to be "all trios exclusively go on missions with their respective trios" I think the cast should be more blended moving forward.
Now that everyone's back and they're all familiar, I'd love to see the characters interact with others and be put on missions with others, which is way more realistic.
I'd love to see character interactions between Roxas and Riku, or Roxas and Ventus, or even Axel and Ventus.
Love hearing about the development behind KH. It’s always a mess and it’s charm is in that.
Can I get a whopper jr with onion rings
Make it a meal so I can get a drink
No I'm not finished that's not everything
Can I please get a double whopper with no cheese
Fuck no
I'm still pissed that Fragmentary Passage (aka BBS volume 2) was cut down to be a [crusty looking] tech demo and not a full game [and in the original engine] as originally intended
3:08. Worlds that would have been featured in the cancelled Fragmented Keys game included
Aladdin, Alice in Wonderland, Peter Pan- already feature in KHI
Wreck it Ralph- feature in a different mobile game instead.
Frozen and Tangled- feature in KHIII
Lilo and Stitch- feature in Birth by Sleep and left forgotten afterwards
Star Wars- might be feature in KHIV
Tron- featured in KHII and Dream Drop Distance
Snow White- feature in Birth by Sleep
That is a very big might
If Tron worked, Star Wars will too.
if Pirates of the Carribbean worked, Star Wars will too.
I think the artwork for kingdom hearts fragmented key is amazing I wish I could play it I wish I could play kingdom hearts 3D too
Speaking of Verizon phone games, Devil May Cry was surprisingly fun.
That has a Phone game???
@@ProdigyxCD Indeed it does! Have you ever played Shadow the Hedgehog? The tiered stage path is similar.
I hope we get wreck-it Ralph, turning red, luca, elemental, the incredibles, treasure planet, atlantis and emperor’s new groove in KH4.
Treasure Planet & Atlantis would be the tits. I know people hated Atlantis, but I thought it was ok
Treasure Planet might be possible, especially since Treasure Island is public domain & won’t have any roadblocks
I knew it there was definitely a star wars world in kh fragments keys unfinished with the star wars world missing the one Nomura didn't add to the list. And the same thing for Atlantics the lost empire too.
you can totally tell the idea for yazora came from Versus 13 and Noctis its very obvious noctis was most likely gonna be in KH3 with a similar plot
Ooooh thats so interesting never even thought about the possibility of a KH game being canceled
Fragmented keys actually played like a normal kh game and story progression. Similar combat. Except it had a zip mode that you could use grind to different areas in a map
Man I'm still hoping for another kh game where you not play sora and after the ending of kh3 there are so many possibilities like another game where you play Aqua Terra and Ven uncovering more about the lost masters and daybreak town or maybe a game about Kairi and her journey to truly become a great keyblade wielder I also always thought it would be awesome if instead of Donald and Goofy Kairi would travel with Daisy and Minnie or another possibility being a new game about Roxas Lea and Xion but if it's supposed to be something fresh the Kairi idea is my favorite
I would hope for a BBS 2 since we still havent gotten a fleshed out version of Ven and Terra playstyles(I dont count mods).Its story could revolve around whatever the trio was doing in the ROD while searching for Sora/a means to find him.
Ngl that mobile game is running smooth asf for a flip phone
Kh fk ran even smoother. It was insane how smooth it ran and on a iPhone 6+ at the time it did amazing
Hey, where did you find that slowed down version of "Valsi di Fantastico" from FFXV that was played in the background throughout the video?
Super interesting! I especially loved the concept art, and worlds we could have had, for Fragmented Keys. It's a shame we didn't get these, but I think some things worked out for the better. Thank you for researching these topics and spreading the word! ❤️
I would love to see a proper BBS Vol. 2 with the Wayfinder Trio in the future, to see where they're heading. We now know Ventus' backstory, but I've always wanted to know where Terra and Aqua came from, and how they met before BBS, so that would be interesting to explore. Maybe you could theorize on that in a future video, if you haven't already! ☺️
That actually sounds like something fun to speculate on!!
@@ProdigyxCD I'm glad you think so! One of these days, I'll have the guts to come up with my own theory videos, lol. Looking forward to your next video and seeing what you come up with 😊
Jungle Book should be in Kh4
Even if we don't ever get BBS Vol. 2, the secret episode at the end of BBS and 0.2 were fantastic enough for me to be satisfied lol. Thank you for another fun video!
God be with you out there everybody. ✝️ :)
Been saying it for awhile, KH and Versus were going to be combined at some point. So that's why Verum Rex doesn't surprise me. Likely Verum Rex might have been fully greenlit recently too. Can't wait ^^
Tetsuya Nomura sounded like he wanted to do that after KH4 so seems likely.
At the end of verum rex the secret boss will be sora coming at you with all his keyblade forms
I hope we get wreck it Ralph in kH4
We got it in kh3. What more do you want them to do with it dawg?
@@raigefernau1529 make a world
Where do you think fragmented keys would’ve taken place in the timeline
I honestly don't remember the timeline exactly, but it felt like it took place right before the third game. The gameplay was incredibly smooth and I have never felt a mobile game be so smooth since. They had a grinding function where you could zip grind all over the town mopping the floor with the enemies. I was I had gotten gameplay footage before the game was taken offline.
OMG! literally thought you were going to say that Kingdom Hearts 4 was canceled! I got goosebumps now...😖
The kingdom hearts vcast soundtrack be giving twisted wonderland vibes, and it says a lot considering they're both partially from Disney
The Maleficent's castle music has some 358/2 Neverland vibes
Should have snuck in some canceled game references too like fragmented keys
I love seeing old stuff
Kingdom Hearts:Fragment Keys X.
The first introduction to star wars and it was canceled 😢
Better that way, you really wanted it to be on mobile?
@@adrielalonso1026 nope just wanted to see what star wars would've been like for kh, but good point but I hope it makes it on kh4 is the hope, what better story for light, and darkness then lightside, and darkside of the force.
@@Gamefit28 Perhaps they cancelled it because they decided to move it to KH4. People have been wanting Star Wars for a long time, so it would make sense to have it on one of the main games instead of the side ones.
hear me out i would love to pay for a kingdom hearts online like an mmo. have the keyblade generate after a set of questions to and your name stuff like that would be sick as hell!
Also Union X and Dark Road got cancelled in a way, but were kept as story repositories.
I feel like BbS pt2 would fall after 4 because after accerating training for Kairi and Lea/Axel, I wonder if merlin amd the good fairies have enough power to do the same to retrain Ven and Terra, I also wonder if Former Master Yen Sid would be their trainer. I have a feeling that Mickey, Donald, and Goofy will join the main trio, so King Mickey would be out of the question to be their (Ven and Terra's) trainer.
The fandom'll lose it if Nomura mentions in KH4 Ultimania how the concept of bridging a Versus XIII aesthetic world with KH was that mystery game.
It's hard to fathom how different things could've been if that mystery game was made instead of DDD. But I mean, essentially it could work. Just replace going to Sleeping Worlds for Mark of Mastery Exam with going to "weird realistic world." Neku's comment about Shibuya could've been a remnant of the idea, unbeknownst to any of us 🧐. It's the longest of long shots.
But, it'd be hilarious if the cancelation of Versus XIII, inadvertently led to the unearthing of this "...what?" idea for KH, with the added ability to save some Versus XIII ideas and put it all in KH4. Either way, now amped myself up to hear his secrets about coming up with unreality (and the very touchy SE subject of Versus XIII, that he's slowly allowed to say by name again) that we'll probably only hear in the KH4 Ultimania unless he can mention it in interviews leading up to KH4.
That KH4 Ultimania is going to have some interesting info for sure
Vcast is actually an interesting concept
Missed a big one. Dissidia started life as a Kingdom Hearts fighting game that was Smash meets Chain of Memories cards. Disney didn’t like their characters fighting in this way, and the project shifted to Final Fantasy.
"not counting final mixes, re:mixes, and movies" and counting Chains of Memories and RE:Chains of Memories as well as Chi, Union Chi and Chi Dark Road as separated
well re chain of memoreis are a total diffrent game, just same story, i mean its redone from scratch to another platform. but he chi, union and dark road should be the same, and isnt melody of memories a DLC to kh3?
@@StrikeDuelist if CoM and ReCoM are different games then 3D Dream Drop Distance and HD Dream Drop Distance should be concluded different games as well, but that's still a remanatered, and since they lost the original KH1 files because bad archiving habits of 2000s, then kingdom Hearts 1.5 re:mix should also be a different game since they remade most if the game from re:verse re:engeering a retail copy of the game
Well.. they are different games
If you look at all the titles minus chain of memory’s and only counting re:chain memories since they both tell same story but re:chain adds new things that all 13 games xehanort is in all 13 games in some shape even he’s previous life or xenanort medals in game or form even melody of memories flashback even fight him seems like our favorite Director wanted to add him in the last game bump him up to that magic 13 number he loves 😏 I wouldn’t say he’d do anymore flashbacks for xehanort or data version cutscene’s maybe they mention he’s name in conversation or data studies future games help process something they looking for. There is the chance he’d show up on recording video studies if KH team wants that but yeah so far now 13 games showed up past life or different forms or young or old or data or memories version of him
Never knew there was so much.
Xion best girl.
Absolutely agree
Seems to me that BBS 2 was just broken up into Coded, DDD and 0.2. As much as I love 0.2 I’m not sure how you could really expand that much on what we got and I think it works way better as the prologue to KH3 like twilight Town was for KH2. I play it that way despite it being broken off but it lets people who want to just jump right into KH3 on subsequent playthroughs.
I think that unknewn game Was dark road. Or a Version of that
Wasn't there some bat shit insane rumor that stated that Final Fantasy: Versus XIII was actually supposed to tie into Kingdom Hearts at one point? Because KH having Fabula Nova Crystalis lore would have been insane.
Hm, how very interesting, i wonder if anything about these projects will see the light of day someday?
they say they're milking ff7, but look at kh😅💀 All the mobile phones should've been console games, and shorter/combined/denser.
Really interesting video!!
W video vro!
My Legendary Childhood
Still waiting for Catdom Cards : Rule of Sleep
I’ve been playing this game for around a decade now. And even now the story can’t have a conclusion, I gave up on this shit.
And I am over here playing 358/2 on my cellphone
Ive been saying kh is the sequal to the ff13 series for a while now.
Disney only kh games ar cançelt becaus of Nomura
Nonura ist involfed in them AMD ultimatly if He says No disney has to kinda let These Things go. Its a colaboration and anything without square means it cant be kingdom hearts. They even say they dont realy own kh nomura does
KH Cloud gaming sucks sadly. Nintendo needs to change that.
We need a Dynasty warriors game style KH game it would be so fun
Wait....they had movies???
Bring them all back ETC !
Lost in the Realm of Darkness? You mean the Sleeping Worlds.
A kingdom hearts mmo would make me lose my shit...
Disney CEO Bob Iger is talking about selling all of Disney to apple. So there might not be any Disney in the new kingdom hearts games
Disney owns Kingdom Hearts so it would go with them
@@KevinTriforce yea your right square Enix is just the developer
@@KevinTriforce apple could always sell the kingdom hearts rights to square Enix or just keep letting them use the characters
what are the other kh new game other then 4
Kingdom Hearts Missing Link. It's a mobile gacha game and is meant to explain the missing link between Unionx and Dark Road. It will be 3D and have features similar to pokemon go with exploring through AR. There is no release date for it.
You missed Kingdom Hearts Coded. So that would be 15. This was the cell phone game released for Docomo phones.
Kingdom Hearts 4 cancelled because of the Name ._.
i thought fragmented keys was a fan game
Fully developed by Disney. It had stupid money and talent dumped into it. It's a shame it didn't get released.
For a hot minute I thought the title was "THEY Canceled Kingdom Hearts Games" and I nearly had a heart attack
The toxic gossip train 🎶
Castle sounds like an ElderScrolls game.
they should have cancelled them all, i didnt play them, they couldve made a better game for me to play instead of this one
No cancelled
Robin Hood too
BBS 0.2 was awful what're you talking about....
First
First
No More Kingdom Hearts 4
I hope Kingdom hearts 4 doesn't come out until we rid all the lgbtq people from the studio. I'm happy that it doesn't come out for a few more years The last thing we need is a world where Sora is a girl then I'll have to destroy my whole collection
@@ovxk1014 I never heard anything like that I saw trailer saying it will be coming out and it shows he's male and verum Rex is going to be in it
Who's castle??? You slurred your speech dude.