London is honestly screwed. I live here it’s got so much worse since covid, every council and road authority seems to use it as a excuse to introduce ‘low traffic neighbourhoods’ and ‘safer spaces’ which is all complete bs. Anyway if you HAVE to drive in London a Mini Electric or BMW i3 is definitely the way to go.
Don't forget road blocks, they want you taking main roads and to be stuck in congestion. Old Street roundabout they completely screwed up, more congestion and emissions as a result than ever, but hey ho, all for cyclists Lane. 🤦♂️ Agree with you about Uber drivers, seen some terrible drivers particularly the ones in Prius's 🤦♂️
@@MikeNunn-LWM Glad to see you have returned to this comment just a few hours ago, and even more glad to hear how much you love your electric MINI. What do you mean by “preconditioning” ? I am a complete newbie to EVs, forgive me.
@@Oetti preconditioning means using the cars app to set the heating to ready for the time you want to leave. This warms the car and clears the ice from the windows automatically and uses power from the house not the battery. It also cools the car in the summer. I have not scraped ice from my windows since getting an electric car.
Another good review Joe ( nice statue by the way of your dad!!! ) The electric mini not sure it was the same spec as Petrolped drove ages ago, he liked it but didn`t buy it as you know. Smart car, and you are right about London, although its many years since I was there. 100 odd miles didn`t seem very good even for a city car, but that may change with the new technology batteries to come later, we will see.
Sounds like you're still evolving on the strong need for mode shift to cycling with slow streets and the critical move off of ICE cars, but I really appreciate that you're coming from an intense love of petrol cars, so it's a journey. Been there, done that. Thank you for sharing this particular car, because it might be the thing that pushes a few would-be converts into choosing a low impact MINI SE. This car's pretty efficient, and the smaller range actually helps to NOT induce more driving which the longer range Tesla class of cars is doing. Also thanks for clarifying that the range is enough for most people. Cheers.
Thanks for the tour and video...what struck me about your city driving was how natural the Mini felt...despite not having a mechanical engine propelling the vehicle it didn’t feel eerie quiet....am a die hard Petrol head....so what does that mean😳😱...having said that....battery range is clearly a high priority issue and one that seems more an immediate concern when it comes to planning your movements which can be affected in relation to weather & how many accessories are drawing current from the batteries....given charging stations are not yet as easily accessible as fuel stations nor the recharge times as friendly as fueling either.....is this really a viable option for the masses or the determined few?....It’s shame London is losing its charm for you...am sure you’re not alone in your experience...but great review
Fun fact, in civilised countries in situations like 14:25 peds crossing at a junction with no lights have priority over traffic turning. Not in the UK though (even though HC does stipulate this in Rule 170).
Great review as always and have been fan of BMW and Mini for 25 years. However in recent years these cars have become stripped back of finishing details and full of too much plastic. Other manufacturers offer better value.
I thought the streets of London were supposed to be lined with gold not expensive cars? Great video. You are obviously a caring, careful, thoughtful driver pointing out all the hazards. I’d add the Amazon drivers who think nothing of reversing down main roads with the castrating sound of their gearboxes being the only warning to poor motorists and pedestrians. :)
I miss the old London, before they made it hell for drivers who, let's remember, paid and continue to pay for the road network through the taxes they are charged.
Is there a sign for the Fire brigade to know that you are in a Petrol car as well... As the tank on a petrol car is statistically 11 x more likely to blow than a battery pack ... Just saying !! Would be nice if you didn't labour on that ! We know battery packs can blow, but so can petrol tanks and I don't see anyone harping on about that on the internet.....
Everyone committing about London being horrible for living and equally horrible for driving should remember that London's streets and neighborhoods were never designed with the automobile in mind because it did not exist at the time.. The 20mph speed limited is for the protection of pedestrians and safety.. They are trying to limited combustion engine cars due to pollution in a very densely populated city.. You can't blame a city that was not designed for the car or for modern traffic.. Los Angeles evolved with the car and its streets have been completely redesigned for the car, however, traffic and pollution is a total nightmare.. Maybe if more people public transportation and ride share the traffic problem would be less severe..
I'll have you know that's "Energetic Yellow," not green stuff. As you might guess, I like the green stuff all over my Moonwalk Grey MINI Cooper SE. I also like that it makes an electronic low-speed sound unlike any other MINI Cooper to advertise it's electric nature. I despised the fake hood scoop, which has no place on an electric car, so I had a scoopless MINI Cooper hood painted and installed. I don't begrudge people who want to conceal the electric nature of their MINI Cooper SEs by omitting the Energetic Yellow bits. There are people who have installed the non-aerodynamic grille used on thermal MINI Coopers. I've yet to see anyone add fake exhaust pipes, however.
@@insightman I don't want to conceal its nature I just don't really like the colour, that's it. Other than that I'd take an electric mini over the normal one any day.
Hi Joe Great review mate you need to have a chat with Peter ...petrol Ped and try to Persuade him to get the electric mini next as he is looking at at Tesla Y This mini looks a much better car 🚗 all round mate See what you can do 👍👍👍👍👍
Electric cars are only for an exclusive club....... for society to think that everyone driving on our roads will be in an electric car in 20 years is absolutely crazy
@S M Maybe he is actually a car 'enthusiast' like me. And not some uneducated millennial with no past experience to draw on, who just want's some white goods, boring box, to get him to uni & back because he is too lazy to cycle ?
Your BMW i3 has that old Samsung battery. The MINI Cooper SE has the newer CATL battery. I have no trouble exceeding 100 miles in Green Mode (I've never run it chargeless to see how far it will go) and one TH-camr has achieved 177 .65 miles.
Averaging 4.2 mi/kWh here...or 120 miles with ease. Even fun drives in the canyons get around 4 mi/kWh and had a canyon run up to 10k feet at 96 miles and got 5.2 mi/kWh. It’s very easy to get over 100 miles of range.
@@Biocube101 I don’t think electric cars will ‘save’ the environment, it just shifts the pollution to other areas of the production and running process. All the passenger cars in Europe combined are nothing compared to the emissions cruise ships spit out each year!
@@Biocube101 how can disposable cars be good for the environment? we are just being pushed into a tech upgrade cycle by these companies like we have with computers and then phones. there is no old used car market where the majority of people buy cars. ICE cars can be recycled and kept going for 15-20 years a 10 year tesla is worthless because a battery pack is 16,000.
Other Electric Cars do not have big Yellow Badges front and rear to let anyone know they are EV's in case of fire and there is nothing stopping anyone debadging a MINI Cooper S Electric. & really, 15-20 charge cycles and a MINI battery is better than after the first charge?
After test 25 minute test drive I felt nauseous. The regenerative braking is a bit too aggressive for me. It tricked my brain into thinking someone else was stopping the car. Btw my first time in electrical vehicle. Anybody else? Did you get used to it? Otherwise it was a blast to drive.
OK....so the only right conclusion here is that we don't need an electric cars in our lives....these cars are good only for some of Woody Allen's movies, nothing else. That what they've done from an english legendary car is disgusting...you need to charge it more than a half of a day, a range is a joke, and there's no sound, fakery all around the car....what a joke... nice video Joe, thank you, you've just convinced me to not to buy an electric car never in my life
@S M No, i don't mean the german car, i mean exatctly what i've just said...an ENGLISH CAR....and by the way, they are not producing this car in Germany, Mini is produced mostly in ENGLAND, just some of them in the Netherland.....so, you want to say that the Audi is a Slovakian, Indian or Russian car because a factory is in Russia? Or Mercedes is a Mexican car because a factory is in Mexico?
Thank you for another interesting video Joe. The MINI is awful though, too much fakery and tat stuck on, obviously only my personal opinion. The range is terrible, styling is terrible, and you look terrible sat in it (you do look very cool sat in the M2 however!).
It isn't clean. The latest studies comparing EVs with ICE cars show EVs to be far more polluting due to heavy metal production and of course, and incredibly, because they cost more CO2 through life than ICE cars do. If you want a true low CO2 and clean exhaust option convert your car to run on LPG.
London is honestly screwed. I live here it’s got so much worse since covid, every council and road authority seems to use it as a excuse to introduce ‘low traffic neighbourhoods’ and ‘safer spaces’ which is all complete bs. Anyway if you HAVE to drive in London a Mini Electric or BMW i3 is definitely the way to go.
Don't forget road blocks, they want you taking main roads and to be stuck in congestion. Old Street roundabout they completely screwed up, more congestion and emissions as a result than ever, but hey ho, all for cyclists Lane. 🤦♂️
Agree with you about Uber drivers, seen some terrible drivers particularly the ones in Prius's 🤦♂️
LTNs are brilliant, love walking and cycling on quiet, safer roads.
I’m averaging 4.7 miles per kWh giving me a range of 130 miles. Love my Mini electric as it’s such fun to drive.
Hi Mike. How's your Mini still doing? Any issues with reliability? How's your range...any drop off? Cheers!
@@dansburns It went up to 5 miles per kWh in summer and is dropping. I’m around 4.5 at the moment, preconditioning helps no end.
@@MikeNunn-LWM Glad to see you have returned to this comment just a few hours ago, and even more glad to hear how much you love your electric MINI. What do you mean by “preconditioning” ? I am a complete newbie to EVs, forgive me.
@@Oetti preconditioning means using the cars app to set the heating to ready for the time you want to leave. This warms the car and clears the ice from the windows automatically and uses power from the house not the battery. It also cools the car in the summer. I have not scraped ice from my windows since getting an electric car.
@@MikeNunn-LWM fantastic, thank you so much for the reply!
I drove that car on my channel a week ago and loved it! It was a ton of fun. Thanks for the video!
Great video as usual buddy, very much enjoyed the car spotting too.
Great observation about London streets, TFL “every journey matters” 🤣🤣🤣
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Nice video Joe, like the logic of the electric Mini around towns and cities, UK especially.
Just ordered one, can't wait to get it
Another great Video Joe. Thank you once again.
Interesting to see the options available for the car, I drove the Cooper s and Cooper SE back to back and surprised how similar they were
Joe this was brilliant, bloody loved it. keep up the great work.
When Mr Joe reviews you know you getting an honest review. Get Mat to do a review and drag race on your chanel!🥳👊🏾
Another good review Joe ( nice statue by the way of your dad!!! ) The electric mini not sure it was the same spec as Petrolped drove ages ago, he liked it but didn`t buy it as you know. Smart car, and you are right about London, although its many years since I was there. 100 odd miles didn`t seem very good even for a city car, but that may change with the new technology batteries to come later, we will see.
Cheers mate. Enjoyed that.
Great review Joe 👍
Great vid joe superb.
Good detailed reviews
Got all excited for a second! GP3 now please👍😉😂
Love your videos 😍 still your biggest fan
Great review Joe (as always). Hanging out for you to review the new 128 ti BMW when it gets released. Must be patient.😄 (a fan in Australia 🇦🇺)
Good review, you should do more around London interesting to hear your opinions
Where is the list of accessories in the description?
Enjoyable trip into London with you Joe. Nice car, I still prefer the reassurance of my petrol Clubman though. #rangeanxiety
Gotta love the sound of this engi...
Ooops, wrong video !
Loved the Mini E, great video but oh my gosh, i've truly outgrown London! Isn't it a depressing place!
Is the regeneration breaking worth it?
Sounds like you're still evolving on the strong need for mode shift to cycling with slow streets and the critical move off of ICE cars, but I really appreciate that you're coming from an intense love of petrol cars, so it's a journey. Been there, done that. Thank you for sharing this particular car, because it might be the thing that pushes a few would-be converts into choosing a low impact MINI SE. This car's pretty efficient, and the smaller range actually helps to NOT induce more driving which the longer range Tesla class of cars is doing. Also thanks for clarifying that the range is enough for most people. Cheers.
Thanks for the tour and video...what struck me about your city driving was how natural the Mini felt...despite not having a mechanical engine propelling the vehicle it didn’t feel eerie quiet....am a die hard Petrol head....so what does that mean😳😱...having said that....battery range is clearly a high priority issue and one that seems more an immediate concern when it comes to planning your movements which can be affected in relation to weather & how many accessories are drawing current from the batteries....given charging stations are not yet as easily accessible as fuel stations nor the recharge times as friendly as fueling either.....is this really a viable option for the masses or the determined few?....It’s shame London is losing its charm for you...am sure you’re not alone in your experience...but great review
Fun fact, in civilised countries in situations like 14:25 peds crossing at a junction with no lights have priority over traffic turning. Not in the UK though (even though HC does stipulate this in Rule 170).
That blob at the front surrounding the reg plate sort of ruin the front a bit.
Joe Achilles driving around ranting about stuff should be a new thing of yours.
😂😂😂👌
Still haven’t seen a Mini Electric with the brand defining bonnet stripes. Is this a conscious decision on Mini’s part?
In the US those bonnet stripes are applied by the dealer, so any MINi owner can have them if they want to pay for them.
I really don't mind the range but only if it is more like a small sports car like a Radical, KTM X-Bow or Smart Roadster
Thanks.
Hey just saw you in mat Watson's carwow video and I subscribed to ur channel....
Matt who?! Lol, joking. 🤣 You've done the right thing 👍
@S M I quite like him, he's funny
Completely agree, 20mph is a joke, too many cycle lanes, Buses are what cause traffic always!
so obviously not a fan of the squashed frog model 3 Joe!? Have you driven?
Completely unrelated to this. Really hoping you get a 128ti to review!
Great review as always and have been fan of BMW and Mini for 25 years. However in recent years these cars have become stripped back of finishing details and full of too much plastic.
Other manufacturers offer better value.
Those wheels and paint job are nice. But I do like the island blue color too. My next car will definitely be an ev. Cheers everyone 🍻
I'm against car finance but for this Mini I'm definitely getting it
Could you get the current one from BMW and do a proper driving review? What you think of it, handling performance etc? Love to see it.
I thought the streets of London were supposed to be lined with gold not expensive cars? Great video. You are obviously a caring, careful, thoughtful driver pointing out all the hazards. I’d add the Amazon drivers who think nothing of reversing down main roads with the castrating sound of their gearboxes being the only warning to poor motorists and pedestrians. :)
Same problem as me, lol. Every time I get a car to review it starts to rain.
How's it is to own a mini cooper
No idea, never owned one
I miss London thanks for the ride
I miss the old London, before they made it hell for drivers who, let's remember, paid and continue to pay for the road network through the taxes they are charged.
Perfect short journey car! Using electricity, whether dirty or not doesn't count towards the emissions out the car.
Badges, badges, we don't need no stinking badges.
?
Badges are for badge wankers 🤣
@@marcus8647 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stinking_badges
Anyone clock the number of parked Minis through the vid?
Did you say Model 3 yuck? Did you mean the aero wheels? Besides that there's nothing yucky about it
Yep anything Tesla is 💩
@@JoeAchilles1 I'd say everything else is 💩 after driving a Tesla 🤔
Is there a sign for the Fire brigade to know that you are in a Petrol car as well... As the tank on a petrol car is statistically 11 x more likely to blow than a battery pack ... Just saying !! Would be nice if you didn't labour on that ! We know battery packs can blow, but so can petrol tanks and I don't see anyone harping on about that on the internet.....
🤣🤣🤣🔥
Why does it need those badges on it
If it's on fire or in a bad accident, the emergency services need to know what kind of vehicle they are dealing with.
Johannes R the taycan joe tested didn’t have badges on it
@Chris Taycan is not clearly electric. If you don’t know about cars especially been a porsche.
Everyone committing about London being horrible for living and equally horrible for driving should remember that London's streets and neighborhoods were never designed with the automobile in mind because it did not exist at the time.. The 20mph speed limited is for the protection of pedestrians and safety..
They are trying to limited combustion engine cars due to pollution in a very densely populated city.. You can't blame a city that was not designed for the car or for modern traffic..
Los Angeles evolved with the car and its streets have been completely redesigned for the car, however, traffic and pollution is a total nightmare.. Maybe if more people public transportation and ride share the traffic problem would be less severe..
moonwalk grey?
Looks much better without the green stuff all over it
I'll have you know that's "Energetic Yellow," not green stuff. As you might guess, I like the green stuff all over my Moonwalk Grey MINI Cooper SE. I also like that it makes an electronic low-speed sound unlike any other MINI Cooper to advertise it's electric nature. I despised the fake hood scoop, which has no place on an electric car, so I had a scoopless MINI Cooper hood painted and installed.
I don't begrudge people who want to conceal the electric nature of their MINI Cooper SEs by omitting the Energetic Yellow bits. There are people who have installed the non-aerodynamic grille used on thermal MINI Coopers. I've yet to see anyone add fake exhaust pipes, however.
@@insightman I don't want to conceal its nature I just don't really like the colour, that's it. Other than that I'd take an electric mini over the normal one any day.
@@insightman btw the fake hood scoop is much worse for me than the little like accents
Hi Joe
Great review mate you need to have a chat with Peter ...petrol Ped and try to Persuade him to get the electric mini next as he is looking at at Tesla Y This mini looks a much better car 🚗 all round mate
See what you can do 👍👍👍👍👍
Good for clean air in cities. That's about it. All the extra options a waste of money.
Electric cars are only for an exclusive club....... for society to think that everyone driving on our roads will be in an electric car in 20 years is absolutely crazy
Agree!
S M stupid boy
@S M Maybe he is actually a car 'enthusiast' like me. And not some uneducated millennial with no past experience to draw on, who just want's some white goods, boring box, to get him to uni & back because he is too lazy to cycle ?
I work at BMW and you will have to drive it very slowly to get 100+ miles from a
Full charge. And nobody drives them like that 🚗
Your BMW i3 has that old Samsung battery. The MINI Cooper SE has the newer CATL battery. I have no trouble exceeding 100 miles in Green Mode (I've never run it chargeless to see how far it will go) and one TH-camr has achieved 177 .65 miles.
Averaging 4.2 mi/kWh here...or 120 miles with ease. Even fun drives in the canyons get around 4 mi/kWh and had a canyon run up to 10k feet at 96 miles and got 5.2 mi/kWh. It’s very easy to get over 100 miles of range.
Hahaha how come u dont like Tesla? idk much about them but just interesting
Do another version where you review the car and not London..
I guess 'fire' is not exactly the right word but yeah.
Like & Comment :-)
Is it just me or does everyone else want it to go "Vroom, Vroom"?
I have zero interest in an electric car
Well, thank you for not trying to save our environment.
@@Biocube101 I don’t think electric cars will ‘save’ the environment, it just shifts the pollution to other areas of the production and running process. All the passenger cars in Europe combined are nothing compared to the emissions cruise ships spit out each year!
@@Biocube101 how can disposable cars be good for the environment? we are just being pushed into a tech upgrade cycle by these companies like we have with computers and then phones.
there is no old used car market where the majority of people buy cars. ICE cars can be recycled and kept going for 15-20 years a 10 year tesla is worthless because a battery pack is 16,000.
Other Electric Cars do not have big Yellow Badges front and rear to let anyone know they are EV's in case of fire and there is nothing stopping anyone debadging a MINI Cooper S Electric. & really, 15-20 charge cycles and a MINI battery is better than after the first charge?
Get rid of Sadiq and maybe London might improve! Moved away 8 years ago and thats when you realise its shit!
After test 25 minute test drive I felt nauseous. The regenerative braking is a bit too aggressive for me. It tricked my brain into thinking someone else was stopping the car. Btw my first time in electrical vehicle. Anybody else? Did you get used to it? Otherwise it was a blast to drive.
"Tesla model 3......yuck"! 😄
OK....so the only right conclusion here is that we don't need an electric cars in our lives....these cars are good only for some of Woody Allen's movies, nothing else. That what they've done from an english legendary car is disgusting...you need to charge it more than a half of a day, a range is a joke, and there's no sound, fakery all around the car....what a joke...
nice video Joe, thank you, you've just convinced me to not to buy an electric car never in my life
@S M No, i don't mean the german car, i mean exatctly what i've just said...an ENGLISH CAR....and by the way, they are not producing this car in Germany, Mini is produced mostly in ENGLAND, just some of them in the Netherland.....so, you want to say that the Audi is a Slovakian, Indian or Russian car because a factory is in Russia? Or Mercedes is a Mexican car because a factory is in Mexico?
we should be driving hydrogen powered cars.
Thank you for another interesting video Joe. The MINI is awful though, too much fakery and tat stuck on, obviously only my personal opinion.
The range is terrible, styling is terrible, and you look terrible sat in it (you do look very cool sat in the M2 however!).
It isn't clean. The latest studies comparing EVs with ICE cars show EVs to be far more polluting due to heavy metal production and of course, and incredibly, because they cost more CO2 through life than ICE cars do. If you want a true low CO2 and clean exhaust option convert your car to run on LPG.