I find this absurd. This is like after you tendered your resignation, the company finds a reason to stop you from finding new job and also prevent other job from approach you…
I think you give a wrong example. For this case the company have spent money to train you when you are nobody but after you have learned all the skill you suddenly tendered your resignation and with the hope that your company will kind enough to let you go? Is it fair to the company? What do you feel if you are the boss of the company?
@@cpteoh5001 I understand where you coming from and how BAM would feel. But in the example, as much as the company is unhappy or even feel betrayed, I don’t think is justifiable for the company to preventing me to finding a new job after the resignation have been submitted and accepted. :(
@@chesszz i think some of requests from lzj is unreasonable His asked to have his own coaching team but in fact all best coaches, hendrawan misbun wch are already with him under bam Even he wants lcw to coach him directly, he could ask lcw to work with him at same place. Unless he could get Lin dan as his coach, there is no other better candidates. 2nd point, schedule. Dont see any problems on this as this was bwf fault to have a tight schedule and mandate top ranked players to play all top tier tournaments, can't blame bam to be fair. 3rd point, own sponsors. All about moeny. No one is right or wrong
@@LifeisSmileAlways Yes, his requests could be unreasonable and beyond what BAM is able to control. But I still don’t think this means that BAM can stop him from pursuing his job professionally? It will be like you are at work and requested many things from the boss. Boss said he is unable to meet the request because too unreasonable. So you decided to tender and quit to find a new job. But the boss now has also decided to ban you from finding a new job. I just feel weird. Haha. 😅
感謝hun哥科普,希望這個事件可以獲得更好的解決方案,馬來西亞加油
难怪那么多优秀的大马人到国外谋生了。
我觉得bwf改下规则比较好,vittinghus,antonsen,axelsen甚至astrup都支持lzj,听说有韩国选手之前也是有遇过这样的问题
你认为任何运动协会的决议是单由其任意决定的?拜托!都受底下各会员国协会限制的好吗!世界羽联只是各国协会的统筹及赛事运作和类似第三方的角色,而显然国家体协远比运动员更有实至影响力。今天即便BWF要favour运动员,你认为一个相对较有实力的马羽总更有本钱,还是一名运动员?羽毛球受亚洲出成绩的各国统治,这直接影响该运动的各类赞助丶转播利益,一项运动的制度和导向完全反映出该运动的"强国"是些何"属性"。
我真不会希望他移民,可是如果是为了他成绩,我还是支持他的决定,也祝Hun哥新年快乐
到最后也是回归羽总的😂
新年快乐!
谢谢hun哥 难怪每个人都说可以跳过大马羽协但是你却说不行的原因 谢谢分享
原来不是能说移民离开大马 在那边待12个月就能重新来过…真的很无语 好好一个运动员就这么被这腐败的政治毁了 禁赛两年这是要了他们的命 希望世界羽联能关注一下吧🙂🙃
他没有禁他呀!你得罪羽总,他不要帮你签名而已啊!lzj也是笨,李宗伟早早已经劝他了,你这样处理关系,羽总会禁你哦。。他就是不听。。现在后悔了
@@李小米-f7u 李宗伟曾经有劝阻他吗?如果有的话, lzj就是太冲动了
@@李小米-f7u
最多是一拍两散.
'BAM只有一群廢材.
如果移民呢 代表别的国家打球我也会支持🥺
移民好像要3年才能参赛
虎落平原被犬欺,这是离開大馬吧!🙏🙏🙏
加油,小李
希望LZJ可以看到这篇视频,慎重重新考虑他的未来之路。同一时间,大马羽总得为LZJ的身心健康为前提,部分接受LZJ的诉求。毕竟大马羽总有实在太多的制度需要改变。
Lzj团队肯定有考虑过,毕竟这个决定不是你我他想到就闹翻.
LZJ團隊知道這些吧...
安赛龙:随时欢迎梓嘉加入
安赛龙表示:“随时欢迎梓嘉加入我在迪拜的训练营,我对于他和吴堇微的遭遇感到失望。我希望这个风波能尽快获得解决,因为这不是应该在羽球运动发生的事情,梓嘉是有著世界级水平的球员,他随著都能来到迪拜加入我继续训练。”
“虽然他在羽球运动是我的竞争对手,但他的加入能帮助我和他自己提升水平,我想要看见他重返赛场,继续他的职业生涯,在国际舞台上让羽球运动更精彩。
I find this absurd. This is like after you tendered your resignation, the company finds a reason to stop you from finding new job and also prevent other job from approach you…
When politics come first,it'll destroy anything.
I think you give a wrong example. For this case the company have spent money to train you when you are nobody but after you have learned all the skill you suddenly tendered your resignation and with the hope that your company will kind enough to let you go? Is it fair to the company? What do you feel if you are the boss of the company?
@@cpteoh5001 I understand where you coming from and how BAM would feel. But in the example, as much as the company is unhappy or even feel betrayed, I don’t think is justifiable for the company to preventing me to finding a new job after the resignation have been submitted and accepted. :(
@@chesszz i think some of requests from lzj is unreasonable
His asked to have his own coaching team but in fact all best coaches, hendrawan misbun wch are already with him under bam
Even he wants lcw to coach him directly, he could ask lcw to work with him at same place. Unless he could get Lin dan as his coach, there is no other better candidates.
2nd point, schedule. Dont see any problems on this as this was bwf fault to have a tight schedule and mandate top ranked players to play all top tier tournaments, can't blame bam to be fair.
3rd point, own sponsors. All about moeny. No one is right or wrong
@@LifeisSmileAlways Yes, his requests could be unreasonable and beyond what BAM is able to control. But I still don’t think this means that BAM can stop him from pursuing his job professionally? It will be like you are at work and requested many things from the boss. Boss said he is unable to meet the request because too unreasonable. So you decided to tender and quit to find a new job. But the boss now has also decided to ban you from finding a new job. I just feel weird. Haha. 😅
我有在twiter看到astro arena和安塞龙采访的视频,记者问他李梓嘉可不可以去和他训练,安塞龙说欢迎,因为他看到李梓嘉被禁赛他感到很伤心。请问一下各位如果小李真的同意了去迪拜和安塞龙训练需不需要获得羽总的同意
如果不是bam球员了训练不需要他们同意的,问题是李梓嘉参加不了比赛。
sad
去酱远训练来做么都不可以比赛,在国内随便和其他自由人练练下keep fit就好了
@Hun哥 解说得很好哦!
谢谢你!
那jinwei现在怎样呢
专注youtube咯,可能更好赚
玩小型比赛还是可以的,毕竟人家是因为身体状况才选择退休的,所以应该不会那么快就去参加什么大型比赛之类的球赛。
@@justinz.4069 她好像本来要去印度比赛。不是小比赛。
希望你可以分享移民的问题!谢谢
he should just take Singapore citizenship. They will probably fast track his application.
Hun哥我来了🥺
加油!
强扭的瓜不甜🏸继续加油哦!💪💪
lzj去吧,去闯闯看外面的世界好还是原来的地方比较好.
一间公司绝对不能说没有某某员工是不行的,为了避免類似情况发生,辛辛苦苦栽培的人才离开,绝对支持羽总做法,必须要采取强硬的态度,lzj还年少气盛,应该让他在外面多磨练.
用时间去验证吧,看看现在这个年轻的lzj的想法对还是错,路是自己选的,必须自己去承担.
Lzj是工作是打羽球,想在这行业生存久一点,必须突破自己承受更大压力,如果不能夠,还是保持这种打球态度,预计很快被淘汰,这是非常现实的.
可能被身边的人洗脑然后又看到骆健佑在外面都有成绩。
@@cpteoh5001 骆也不是自由人啊,他还是under新加坡羽总
👌 💪 🇲🇾
他现在要去Dubai吗还是没有确定?
只是猜测 还没有确定
马来西亚和阿联酋都是伊斯兰国家,不知道是否更容易适应。不然我更建议他去香港
我个人认为禁赛对李梓嘉并不公平。协会和运动员的关系并不是青少年培养,成年打比赛回报的关系。国际上有很多U13U15U17U19的比赛,运动员即使是在青少年时期也一样会打比赛,而协会会通过运动员的成绩跟政府赞助商议价。事实上协会于此获利甚丰,所以我认为运动员亏欠协会的说法没有道理,以此为由的禁赛就更不合理。我觉得合约里就不应该有禁赛的条款。
不过这只是我的思路,而我不是马来西亚人,大马羽协应该如何运作这件事情还是交给马来西亚人决定吧。如果大部分马来西亚人觉得协会跟运动员签订的合约是合理的,那大马羽协就按这个思路运作下去吧。两种思路孰优孰劣就交给时间和赛场验证好了。
Hun 哥我来了
最终也是回归羽总的 能力不大却要求多多
LZJ在做决定的时候没有想过这种后果吗?还是他觉得大马羽协不会ban他
他以为全英赛冠军及大马的未来希望的身份可以和羽协谈价。
我猜可能他没想到会这么严重吧 可能罚款了事 没想到是禁赛2年😶😶
@@hun3421 不可能不知道,已经有前车之鉴,陈俊翔和杜依蔚都是禁赛2年,而且他还和李宗伟和羽总会长沟通过,人家肯定会告诉他有什么后果
最后的结果应该是lzj回归国家队 双方内部解决
请问可以撤销这个禁赛的吗?
@@goodluck6036 他歸隊就撤銷
@@goodluck6036 回去同意条件就没事了
@@goodluck6036 如果梓嘉回去了国家队就可以不被禁赛
他回归的话,这事就当作没发生
羽总肯定不会这么轻易让他去,毕竟这事已让他们在全世界丢尽脸。一时冲动毁了前途,真是蠢!
还是不明白为何他要突然退出国家队. . .
迪拜只是一个城市,阿联酋才是国家
去拿新加坡公民吧,跟骆建佑一起拼汤杯。
哎唷!
全馬只有小李会打羽毛球 吖?
不为$,为蕉吖....
不過,人不为己、天诛地灭.
独钟$$...,什么豬油, 都情有可原.
个人觉得,世界羽联应该不会为了LZJ而更改规定,因为类似的矛盾并不单单发生在大马,别的国家也很有可能发生。所以如果世界羽联为了LZJ而开方便之门,那么未来如果别的国家球员有类似的矛盾时,他们就不好关了这方便之门。这就会打击到世界羽联成员国国家机构的脸面,而引起特定国家的抗议。世界羽联如果想要维持它的权威性,它就必须要获得成员国的支持,因此它不可能会为了个别球员而牺牲成员国的利益。说的难听点,世界羽联和成员国才是在同一个利益圈子,球员就只是球员;即使你能拿到羽球的“大满贯”,你还是一名球员,如何能够跟一个成员国的利益相比?以上只是个人意见。。。。
不是说改就改,必须要羽联旗下成员协会国投票通过
日本中国印尼以及很多亚洲强旅都是国家队体制,改了是全体受影响,大部分不会同意
单看中日印里面就有多少冠军球员,全部学lzj要单飞,这些国家队全部可以解散了
@@LifeisSmileAlways 说的没错,制定规则的永远是上层,首先自然照顾上层的利益;球员就只是球员,就像员工怎么可能反抗的了老板的规则,不管你是多么优秀的员工,只要你的改动侵犯了老板的利益,所有老板们都会抱团排斥你,这是阶级利益圈子的基本原则。。。
@@LifeisSmileAlways 日本不是举国体制吧。。。
@@dsynn1369 日本是国家队加俱乐部体制,球员是公司俱乐部属下员工,但是还是必须进去国家A队才可以报名参加世界羽联的大赛
俱乐部那边只是发薪酬给球员,保障基本利益,要去世界舞台还是要看日本羽协,日本每年选拔国家AB队
Bwf规则不是说改就改,必须要羽联旗下成员协会国投票通过
日本中国印尼以及很多亚洲强旅都是国家队体制,改了是全体受影响,大部分不会同意
单看中日印里面就有多少冠军球员,全部学lzj要单飞,这些国家队全部可以解散了
日本不是,日本是俱乐部模式,桃田都是某公司旗下球员,像足球那样的,只是团体赛比赛时才几个俱乐部强的球员合起来变成是日本国家队。符合你说的是马来西亚印尼中国和韩国这几个老牌羽球国。基本自由人都不可能的。中国基本看不到自由人。中国羽协不要你,你就基本羽球比赛消失了。历年来都是那样。
@@路人甲-j9v 俱乐部体制我知道,但是还是必须进去国家A队才可以报名参加世界羽联的大赛
俱乐部那边只是发薪酬给球员,保障基本利益,要去世界舞台还是要看日本羽协,日本每年选拔国家AB队
要世界羽联改变规则几乎是不可能了... 只能看接下来体育部长能否协商成功
必須大馬羽總簽名 世界羽總在大馬.................李 基本要回歸才能打球了~~~當你認真當運動員 卻被規則玩死死的..........替李 說個字 槓!!!
so many place to go ... why go dubai... but if he go to dubai..... then he will represent middle east country already.
走出去才能跑得更远
其实眼下最好的办法就是双方达成共识,对李梓嘉最好的方案就是继续呆在国家队...
加入新加坡国
很大可能会移民
迅速移民是最好的
離開羽總,末路一條。
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