I was at the Jefferson Airplane/Doors concert at the Roundhouse, Chalk Farm in London. An unforgettable experience. Jefferson Airplane had an incredible light-show during their set. I went with my brother. Both of us were into Jefferson Airplane and the Doors long before this concert and we weren't disappointed by the performances. Grace Slick and Jim Morrison were two of the best ever rock vocalists.
Jim was an authentic, great blues singer. Along with Eric Burdon , the best white soul singers. Jagger was a great pop singer. The Stones blues covers are really not that great. Only when they started writing originals did they become " TWGRRB". Mick could never approach Jim's rendition of " Back Door Man". But songs like " LadyJane" or " Ruby Tuesday" have brilliant vocals
It is funny to reflect on how so much of the journalist's sound and fury from the time has become the dust of history and now only the achievements of these bands survives.
In late 90's I borrowed one of those NME rock guides/encyclopedias, 1975 issue, and it illustrates the problems of music journalism and criticism. The entry on The Doors was about 1/3 of a single page (and dismissive of everything they did after the Strange Days album), whilst the entry on the Hawkwind spread well over one page. Now I like both bands, but time has clearly shown which of these two bands has had a more lasting influence.
When John Tobler interviewed Morrison at the Isle of Wight two years later, he still considered the shows at the Roundhouse as one of The Doors' best performances. He liked the Granada documentary as well.
Not that unpredictable and not that wild though. He was actually a fairly quiet introvert when not on stage. It takes more than black leather trousers to be a 'wild man of rock'. Try Arthur Brown if you want a wild man!
Agree completely and golden lights comment below just shows that he hasn't studied who he's criticizing. Without Jim there is no Doors, and not only did Jim have the IT factor, he was also extremely intelligent, which I'm sure made it hard to be known as just a pop star, and was part of what ultimately led to his demise. I was born in 68' and didn't like or understand the Doors until the 1991 movie, and once I understood them I was hooked, and almost exclusively by Jim and his role. I read a few books, "Dark Star" being the best, and to come up with songs like The End in an era of bubblegum bs like "something tells me I'm into something good" is epic, and similar to what Tom Petty brought to the table in the bloated late 70's likes of Foreignor, Boston, Frampton and REO. Jim Morrison IMO deserves every bit of credit that he receives!
@@golden.lights.twinkle2329 Meh. Shallow spectacle for the kids. Not truly wild, insightful or intelligent like Jim Morrison, just mediocre commercial spectacle without even a scintilla of sincerity, insight or real passion. I bet you also think Alice Cooper is real rock rebellion as well, or KISS. You are clueless and have shite taste IMHO! Interestingly your chosen name reflects that all to well. Beautifully ironic!
"The Jeffersons " , lol. George and Wheezie couldn't hear each other sing, or Lionel playing his guitar. Tho, the crowd singing "Movin' on Up" acapella brought a tear to everyone's eye.
Haha. Took me a moment to realize what you were up to here. But it's true, no one called them The Jeffersons. "The Airplane" at times, but never the Jeffersons.
In one of my first jobs after college, I worked with a guy who had gone to high school with Jim Morrison. He recalled Morrison as a "troublemaker" for having, in the eyes of the school administration, and many students, "radical and probably Communist ideas." At issue was an essay Morrison had written. In it, he argued that homosexuals and heterosexuals should be treated the same, since sexuality and love had many variations. The teacher was scandalized. And Morrison was suspended. When he returned, he wrote an essay in favor of racial equality. This was in 1959-60 in Virginia. Morrison was almost kicked out of the school.
@@joemartines3545 I've heard similar, but I've also heard that he'd had a fall and injured himself, I think at a child's birthday party or something, and that would have caused it. But he just did way too many drugs, the worst kinds in large amounts. I'm not sure, either.
@@grokeffer6226 I think he was more of a drinker... I'm just starting to read Constantine's book... I'm very suspicious of Lennon's murder. Chapman may have more to him than meets the eye...
Awesome to see a Doors video on the channel. The Mick Jagger comparisons are interesting, I've never heard that connection before personally, nor had that crossed my mind in all the footage of Morrison I've watched
I enjoyed the presentation about Jefferson Airplane and The Doors. I saw the similarity between the Kinks and their latest single but it has a great beat. Jefferson Airplane has an album that is my favorite, "Surrealistic Pillow".
A friend of Morrison has commented on a Laura Nyro TH-cam track that she was Jim's favourite singer. At Monterey 1967 Nyro performed in between The Byrds and Jefferson Airplane backed by the Wrecking Crew, aged 19.
“An hour and a half is too long for anybody” Mick Jagger. Back in the day sets were pretty short. Laughable now because Jagger and every other rockstar changed their tune, but we’re glad of it.
I saw both groups on this tour. Saw the Doors at the Roundhouse with Jefferson Airplane. Also saw Jefferson Airplane on Hampstead Heath. Loved Both!! ❤️
Wild that The Doors had trouble getting any sort of traction on the charts, yet a cover of their song (done quite differently) was much more successful on that same chart.
I noticed that too! So The Doors couldn't release Light My Fire in the UK because Jose Feliciano of all people had the rights to it? I don't understand 😆
@@nathalieplum2137 The Doors released "Light My Fire" in the UK in 1967 but it didn't mean a thing in the charts. Jose Feliciano covered it a year later and it was a huge hit,
The Doors were magical! Loved them ever since I was a kid. It's fascinating how harsh the critics were back then. Really enjoy these snapshots of rock history!
@@ericcrawford3453 It's mystifying because they had hits in numerous countries during their time and Brit artists would go on to cover some of their songs. I think they were used to standard pop being pumped out at the time and just didn't get bands like the Doors and Jefferson Airplane. I was surprised to learn that The Doors' hit Touch Me didn't even chart in the UK despite going on to be #1 in the US and Canada and top 10 in numerous other nations
Linda Easley I agree with what you said, about Doors not connecting with Britain's young audiences & your right they were being overwhelmed with R&B , rock. It almost seems to this day they haven't completely embraced Jim & Doors.
Jim read that article and he made his next songs vitriolic and staggering - but they're all masterpieces to me. It is funny that 'Hello I Love You' is so similar to 'All Day and All of the Night' - I never noticed that before. They've both stood the test of time and are considered to be quintessential rock.
@@markhunter8554 ...and there's the "Stronger than dirt" line at the end referencing the Sunshine lifting of its opening notes from an Ajax commercial of the time.
@@patrickeffiom97 Thanks for asking, I just Googled it. No need to have a broken heart, read the last sentence. It's still Rock n' Roll to me - and I love both bands and both songs too: "The final ruling? The Doors had to pay royalties to Ray Davies after the lawsuit for the band successfully ripping off his guitar riff. But ripping off riffs is basically the backbone of rock music."
I've always heard that Morrison had his ups and downs when it came to performances and it sounds as if the audiences might not have gotten the best of him this time around. But I can't imagine anyone calling the Doors unoriginal; they sounded like no other band from the start and even their last big album was like nothing else on the radio. Even with whatever similarities it had to "All Day, And All of the Night", "Hello I love you." had a unique sound, especially for 1968, despite them calling it their one sacrificial, radio-friendly, "bubblegum" track. The only times I disliked their music were when Morrison tried to get too bluesy, as in "Road House Blues" and the bridge of "LA Woman". Those were the only tracks on which I considered his singing anything less than perfect.
I was somewhat shocked by the comment that the Doors were unoriginal. I would like to travel back and time and ask the person who made that comment what bands the Doors sounded like. Like you said, they sounded like no other band.
Bizarre how one contributor said the Doors were “unoriginal?” There is literally no band that sounds like the Doors-from the first notes of virtually any of their songs, you know exactly who it is.
Well....if you haven't learned it by now...you will....Critics are USELESS - don't ever waste your time reading their written TRIPE and clueless reviews...
@@ernestintownandjackintheco1024 Popular now? I doubt many kids have heard of them, and any current fame The Doors might have is illusory, and only used by writers of articles who have nothing better to say. Go on, give us a 12-pager on the Blossom Toes. Make them "popular"!
@@Ndlanding They have more than 5 songs over 100 million plays. They are continuously a significant act. You’re blatantly and willfully stubborn if you can’t see that.
This was really interesting. Had no idea this pairing ever existed and it's true it could never happen in America cause those two are BIG headliners. Never saw The Doors live but did dig their early albums. The Airplane I saw many times in their heyday and twice Jack Casady took me in with him at the entrance to the Fillmore East when we poor kids were bumming for spare tickets. The Airplane is a very important group historically. Their first album, Takes Off, with original singer Signe Anderson, is a terrific folk rock LP. Then Grace took over singing and they dropped Surrealistic Pillow. It was a game changer. The album, released one year after Takes Off in September 1967, was a monster hit, peaking at #3 on the Billboard top 200 chart and staying on the chart over a year. It also yielded two top 10 singles. Somebody To Love reached #5 and White Rabbit #8. This marked the first time ever one of the hippie bands had a nationwide hit. And the floodgates were about to open. BTW I wonder how many readers here know what a Jefferson Airplane, in the hippie culture, is.
@@Methilde not little pliers but rather a common match, it's two light cardboard strands separated a bit and then held together holding the joint. Looks like a tiny airplane with the two wings....lol..
Was there for The Doors at The lsle Of Wight 1970. To be honest you couldn’t see much , because as far as l can remember they performed on a barely illuminated stage.. Apparently , they were not keen on giving permission to be filmed, so they had minimal stage lights on.. Perhaps they always performed on a dimly lit stage? Very atmospheric though!
@@Methilde Yeah, as someone has already mentioned , there’s an interview backstage with Jim. Considering this was supposed to be his heavy drinking period, he’s very coherent . I remember reading somewhere that he shared a bottle of whiskey that evening with l think Roger Daltrey( might have been Moon?) before the show. They were both on Saturday evening running into early hours Sunday. Ten Years After and ELP also on that evening in the dark..
What a combo arriving then. Both leaders in music in their own way. I'd not like to say which was the better band. There's a Rizla between them. Jagger? Jealous.
At first I was insulted by the apparent anti American bias of the critics, but then I remembered how viciously Pink Floyd was attacked by probably the same assholes, in another video of this wonderful channel. The just don't like creativity... Lol, the Doors are criticised for having a prepared stage act, then the Airplane (the Jeffersons ) for not.
The British press was harsh and opinionated towards everyone, I never realized the Kinks and Doors debacle,I think the press put too much personal opinion in those articles, I'm sure a lot of the fans didn't feel the same..
Contrast these west coast bands reception in UK to Creams reception at the Fillmore in San Francisco the year before. Cream held everyone in awe, incl the other bands playing there.
@SoftserveSodium Listen to Hendrix experience live versus Cream live there’s no comparison even Hendrix got tired of the experience and went to the Band of Gypsys before he killed himself! Too soon?
I'll bet that cream was great early on,but when I saw them circa Wheels of Fire they could be quite boring. Solos are great if you have something to say/play, but it sounded like had to extend every song with noodling. Of course, I must say that I find the Dead just as guilty at times. Generally I found live jazz more touched by creativity.
What's funny is the kinks sued the doors for ripping off "All Day and All of the Night" when they themselves ripped off Howlin' Wolf's " Smokestack Lightning" Edit: The Kinks used Smokestack for "Last of the Steam Powered Trains"
In his heyday Jim Morrison was by far more charismatic than Mick jagger in my opinion. It's just that Jim Morrison threw it all away and Jagger prevailed as the rock star who outlived all the male sex symbol rock gods. If Morrison had cleaned his act up and gotten himself together him and the doors would have been around a lot longer and be true competitors to the Stones but history showed that was never meant to be. Morrison may have lived an extremely short life but his contributions to contemporary music are immense.The Doors music will always be popular and the legacy of James Douglas Morrison forever lives on.
@@ericdailey8587 Nah Mick is a pretentous fop. An energetic entertainer true but no artist. The artist in that bad was pushed out (Brian Jones). In the End (yes irony alert) the Doors music will out live, if not the Stones legend then their music, as their is iconic and timeless and a huge influence on modern music. The Stones are very dated these days. My sons's generation like about 4 of their songs while the Doors inspired Hip Hop (Snoop and Dr Dre) and New Wave bands like the Stranglers and Death Metal. When the Boomers pass on so will Stones nostalgia. NOT the Doors whose music is timeless. Jagger 'worked the stage' so much that me and my friends left half way through in disgust and boredom. How about just singing well instead and with feeling instead of handing the mic to girls in the audience, stupid shallow and sounded fucking AWFUL!!
As always, interesting to hear the UK side on the music of my American youth. I felt/feel the same about the Doors as those who found Morrison pretentious and pompous, though I liked them okay at the time. But they were so huge here in the US. I'm with David Crosby's take, and we really forgot about them in the U.S. until movie soundtracks and a movie about them revived interest permanently. Never had heard the comparisons to Jagger, or to the Kinks song - and I was a big fan of the early Kinks. I can hear the similarity now, but it didn't seem obvious then. The quote from Morrison about the one show was really sweet. And I was the only big JA fan I knew in 1968 and beyond. They had the 2 hit singles in the US in 1967 and then there were enough of us buying the albums to keep them going, I guess. Never got to see them in person, but from the live recordings I've heard, I can understand those who didn't love them in concert. Though when I saw Hot Tuna a few years later, at least Jack and Jorma contributed to a really professional set.
This is hilarious, the English media hate great things when they aren't English, just because the doors are legendary and Jim Morrison literally like a God. seems like alot of jealousy on the English side, I'm a manc and none of my favourite musicians are English. The English media hate everything that isn't English, I can think of several examples where legendary bands from North America, Australia and Europe are penalised and bullied literally because they are something and they aren't a Brit. how ugly that one of most of my favourite life long idols got such bad treatment when visiting my home country
You can see the Doors performance at the Roundhouse in the film the Doors are Open - listen to the applause and you can tell they went over rather well. One of my favorite shows. Best live version of When the Music‘s over. The comparison with Jagger has always baffled me. The best that can be said is that they are both vaguely dark. But Jagger has nothing to compare with the raw emotional power of Morrison screaming, “Save us, Jesus!“ against that chaotic wall of sound.
One interesting similarity: Both went to college. Jagger, to the prestigious London School of Economics. Jim went to UCLA and GRADUATED! Both him and Ray . Probably the ONLY two rock musicians who can make that claim( Frank Zappa may have also gotten a degree)
Seems like the audience 'got' both groups, but most critics didnt. I never thought I'd hear someone complain about the Doors playing an hour and a half! You can't really compare Morrison and Jagger, Morrison was or thought he was an intellectual. Jagger was much more of an extrovert, definitely 'greasier ' than Jim. Ironic that Jim didn't like the Kinks cover that made the Doors famous!😁
Holy shit...comments from people who were there. I was too one month into being 14 with my 12 year old sister. There were so many police and loads of Americans. We were told not to go out as we would never get back in. Jerry Rubin (Yippie founder) was there with his posse. I was right by the stage and went berserk to the music. It was hilarious seeing a naked conga line. Grace was gorgeous. Check out 'The Doors are Open' on youtube.
I was at the Isle of Wight festival in 1968 I was blown away with J.A. Absolutely brilliant.i. Was a soul and Ska boy but this really turned me on to J.A and other music loved it . I think it cost £1:10 shillings (1:50 now) . Loved it.
Interesting opinions on that tour. Back then I probably listened to the Airplane more than the Doors, but that's totally not true now. Haven't actively listened to the Airplane (/Starship) in a decade but still go on occasional jags of listening to the Doors.
I have had the opposite experience. Major Airplane fan (though admittedly, being a bass guitarist, I obviously prefer Jack Casady to a bass keyboard). I never listen to Starship.
@@markhunter8554 The Starship - Dragonfly album kinda ruined Airplane for me. I received it as a Christmas present and liked it well enough at the time. But, something about it wore me out of the whole Airplane lyrics and sound, which is a shame because I used to really enjoy Airplane.
@@paulcooper8818 At least Jefferson Starship was listenable, though no way on the same level as the Airplane. The Starship (i.e. the post Kantner band) were music corporation stooges who were incapable of an original thought or of producing a good song. A total betrayal of Jefferson Airplane.
Ever since that Oliver Stone film i find The Doors becoming more ridiculed by recent music critics and Morrison seen as a sixth form bad poet etc.Something called Blender had The End as one of the worst songs of all time.I stand by them,especially the first two and last two albums a wonderful blend of bues and psychedelia,topped off with Morrison's crooning baritone.
They were true originals, and much of their work holds up well. While critics in search of a controversial or "fresh" angle on beloved musicians come and go, the Doors' music is still selling well to new generations of fans.
The Doors still remains the most unique band in rock history and one of the greatest musical acts ever known to humanity. The raw truth and theatricality they were displaying (lyrically, musically and on facts) still hit so deeply the people who get to know them, and the ones discrediting are not clowns, they are the entire circus 🤡 , terrified pussies who will never understand the world we live in.
Fantastic vid!. The Doors side has been covered but not the Airplane in most accounts. Loved to read the Brit reaction. Very strange. The footage of those shows depicts THE DOORS at their peak yet the critics were unimpressed. Methinks their is a bit of Brit chauvinism going on here.
Funny to see at 5:17, a shot of Chalk Farm Roundhouse the actual venue followed at 5:23 and mistakenly by a shot of The Royal Albert Hall. A bit sloppy i'nit?
This was really fascinating. I read years ago when Mick Jagger was asked about this "American Mick Jagger" his reply was "boring." As personalities Jagger and Morrison were day and night. Morrison hated being a rock star and destroyed himself. Jagger is pushing 80 and still going strong and seems to be suited to the limelight. Jagger was much better (and still is) in self-preservation.
Jagger was always more of a professional, business type of person and showman as far as music who also enjoyed al the glamour of it. It is not like he did not do drugs but it seems he stayed away from the hard stuff unlike Richards who even though was on heroin in the 70s could nevertheless function well alongside Jagger writing and touring. Meanwhile Morrison was happy in displaying decadence in a "poet maudit" outlook, mixed later on with countercultural agitator, and he seriously lived that role ending up in heroin it seems by 1970. But what you say maybe Morrison did get bored or tired of that by 1970 and so that is when the idea of just writing poetry got to him while he seems was already on hard drugs and so one can see him in the Isle of Wight festival in 1970 very still onstage. In that sense Morrison might have been more Brian Jones than Jagger
It sounds as if there was a wee bit of jingoism flying around in the UK music press at this time, a looking down the nose at anything that wasn't British.
There was probably some of that but, at the same time, they wrote very enthusiastically about plenty of american bands. Take "Forever Changes" by Love, for instance. It went pretty much unnoticed in the States but it got great reviews in the british press and it even managed to get in the Top 30 album charts in the UK. I think the main reason why they weren't impressed with many of the West Coast bands was because they sounded very loose on stage. The psychedelic bands from Britain came from a R&B/mod background and they seemed to be tighter.
@@YesterdaysPapers Yeah maybe I was being a bit harsh and putting over an opinion without looking into it too much. Forever Changes is definitely one ot the greatest albums ever made. Peace & Love 🤟
Music and bands sometimes have to age like a fine wine. I think The Doors probably worked better as a studio band as the music is intimate sounding, and probably would have worked better on a stereo in somebody's living room rather than in a cavernous hall.
The comparison to Mick Jagger was totally ridiculous Morrison was a one of kind performer As much as I love Mick Jagger he couldn't hold Jim's jockstrap The West is the Best 😈
I guess because I am American and feel the Doors never got the respect in the UK they deserve Don't get me wrong Jagger great I put him just behind Morrison 😎
@@YesterdaysPapers IMO Morrison is ultimately a superior frontman. Mick Jagger has been around for so long that his act is just ruined and stale. Morrison had a mystique about him.
All theatre, prefabricated in Laural canyon. Love both bands though, I even like the Mickey Thomas version (up until they dropped the Jefferson anyway) Love all the Doors albums aside from the non Jim ones. I didn't like his later conservative radio work though. Also this channel is so high quality, love it.
Sounds like the British music critics of the time had a nasty case of "group think". I can imagine them all getting together after a show clucking on about the two band's shows. The West Coast music wave of that era had it's own vibe, clearly not in sync with British bands of the day. Morrison was as different from Jagger as Jagger was to James Brown... all great in their on way.
I guessing people went to Airplane to see if Grace would "flash" the audience. How could a UK audience get Morrison? They wouldn't know which Jim would show up.
no biatch they waited around or hours supposed to play saturday night but were pushed back until sunday morning , still sounded better than half the bands on woodstock , and they are on the directors cut!
The press in the UK are harsh and opinionated about everyone - they are renowned for the sneering condescension they mete out to all and sundry. Many of them are thoroughly unpleasant gutter dwellers, and the music press were in my experience the worst of the lot. However I think they had a pretty good point in this instance, whatever you think of The Doors music.
With respect.to the stones I'm sorry but I feel the Doors are just flat out better than stones, I'm sorry but Jim Morrison is much deeper and much more interesting than jagger. To quote Elvis mick moves on stage like a chicken on acid!!!! Thanks for another blast from the past.
Im a bit mystified why they are comparing Jim Morrison to Mick Jagger so much. I wasn't ever able to see the Doors live, but I have seen the Stones. Anyway, perhaps its just based on what the music scene was at the time. The Rolling Stones were so big in England at that point that it made sense, I guess, to compare everyone and anything musical to them. In retrospect I think a lot of these Journalists might see it differently.
It seems to me they didn't put the right birthdays of Ray Manzarek and Robby Krieger. Krieger was born in January 8, and they wrote August 1. And Manzarek was born in February 12, and if i see it well, they wrote he's born in December.
I was at the Jefferson Airplane/Doors concert at the Roundhouse, Chalk Farm in London. An unforgettable experience. Jefferson Airplane had an incredible light-show during their set. I went with my brother. Both of us were into Jefferson Airplane and the Doors long before this concert and we weren't disappointed by the performances. Grace Slick and Jim Morrison were two of the best ever rock vocalists.
Very cool!
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wowsy not as bad as sound as they say ?
As was the often overlooked Marty Balin.
Jim was an authentic, great blues singer.
Along with Eric Burdon , the best white soul singers.
Jagger was a great pop singer. The Stones blues covers are really not that great. Only when they started writing originals did they become " TWGRRB".
Mick could never approach Jim's rendition of " Back Door Man".
But songs like " LadyJane" or " Ruby Tuesday" have brilliant vocals
It is funny to reflect on how so much of the journalist's sound and fury from the time has become the dust of history and now only the achievements of these bands survives.
Just shows we can never believe the press😀
In late 90's I borrowed one of those NME rock guides/encyclopedias, 1975 issue, and it illustrates the problems of music journalism and criticism. The entry on The Doors was about 1/3 of a single page (and dismissive of everything they did after the Strange Days album), whilst the entry on the Hawkwind spread well over one page. Now I like both bands, but time has clearly shown which of these two bands has had a more lasting influence.
@@MarkoParabucki Hilarious.
@@MarkoParabucki I don’t even know Hawkwind.
@@SgtPeppersLonelyHeartsClubBand Oh dear.............
Love the Doors, my favorite band when I was a teenager
Love Doors and Airplane the same, a lot.
I saw them live in 1967 at age 14. That experience changed my whole way of thinking at the time! Still a big fan of Robby and John.
@@blue-fj9ky Robby still shows some of his guitar accompaniments recently on youtube. Pretty good.
When John Tobler interviewed Morrison at the Isle of Wight two years later, he still considered the shows at the Roundhouse as one of The Doors' best performances. He liked the Granada documentary as well.
Jim Morrison was truly one of a kind. The unpredictable wild man of rock, but a hell of a performer once he hit that stage.
You got that rite brother.
Not that unpredictable and not that wild though. He was actually a fairly quiet introvert when not on stage. It takes more than black leather trousers to be a 'wild man of rock'. Try Arthur Brown if you want a wild man!
Agree completely and golden lights comment below just shows that he hasn't studied who he's criticizing. Without Jim there is no Doors, and not only did Jim have the IT factor, he was also extremely intelligent, which I'm sure made it hard to be known as just a pop star, and was part of what ultimately led to his demise. I was born in 68' and didn't like or understand the Doors until the 1991 movie, and once I understood them I was hooked, and almost exclusively by Jim and his role. I read a few books, "Dark Star" being the best, and to come up with songs like The End in an era of bubblegum bs like "something tells me I'm into something good" is epic, and similar to what Tom Petty brought to the table in the bloated late 70's likes of Foreignor, Boston, Frampton and REO. Jim Morrison IMO deserves every bit of credit that he receives!
Well said cowboysfan, your spot onn!
@@golden.lights.twinkle2329 Meh. Shallow spectacle for the kids. Not truly wild, insightful or intelligent like Jim Morrison, just mediocre commercial spectacle without even a scintilla of sincerity, insight or real passion. I bet you also think Alice Cooper is real rock rebellion as well, or KISS. You are clueless and have shite taste IMHO! Interestingly your chosen name reflects that all to well. Beautifully ironic!
"The Jeffersons " , lol. George and Wheezie couldn't hear each other sing, or Lionel playing his guitar. Tho, the crowd singing "Movin' on Up" acapella brought a tear to everyone's eye.
Haha. Took me a moment to realize what you were up to here. But it's true, no one called them The Jeffersons. "The Airplane" at times, but never the Jeffersons.
@@syater The same in Paris.
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@@Methilde En effet
In one of my first jobs after college, I worked with a guy who had gone to high school with Jim Morrison. He recalled Morrison as a "troublemaker" for having, in the eyes of the school administration, and many students, "radical and probably Communist ideas." At issue was an essay Morrison had written. In it, he argued that homosexuals and heterosexuals should be treated the same, since sexuality and love had many variations. The teacher was scandalized. And Morrison was suspended. When he returned, he wrote an essay in favor of racial equality. This was in 1959-60 in Virginia. Morrison was almost kicked out of the school.
This channel rocks.
Yep. Watching these vids is like travelling in a time machine.
Amen!
I remember feeling traumatized when Jim Morrison died. American rock stars were dropping like flies for a while there.
Some writers like Alex Constantine think he was murdered... I haven't looked into it enough to form an opinion...
@@joemartines3545 I've heard similar, but I've also heard that he'd had a fall and injured himself, I think at a child's birthday party or something, and that would have caused it. But he just did way too many drugs, the worst kinds in large amounts. I'm not sure, either.
@@grokeffer6226 I think he was more of a drinker... I'm just starting to read Constantine's book... I'm very suspicious of Lennon's murder. Chapman may have more to him than meets the eye...
@@grokeffer6226 overdosed from pams china white heroin
Love the Airplane.. Especially After Bathing at Baxters and Crown. Superb albums.
Love those two albums. "Surrealistic Pillow" and "Volunteers" are my favourites.
@@YesterdaysPapers All good albums for sure.
@@YesterdaysPapers Exactly my two favorites as well! Well chosen.
Never ceases to amaze me how so much work goes into your videos, again, amazing footage along with your narration.
Thanks!
I love this channel! Never stop making videos man
Awesome to see a Doors video on the channel. The Mick Jagger comparisons are interesting, I've never heard that connection before personally, nor had that crossed my mind in all the footage of Morrison I've watched
Of course not. How are they alike in any way ?
@@terryenglish7132 Morrison is at least 10000 light years away from mick
who cares moon beam.
@@gforce4063 serious
I enjoyed the presentation about Jefferson Airplane and The Doors. I saw the similarity between the Kinks and their latest single but it has a great beat. Jefferson Airplane has an album that is my favorite, "Surrealistic Pillow".
Good documentary about a not so often talked about event. 😎 Cool mentions of Fever Tree (underrated group) and Love of course.
Fever Tree is so underrated!
A friend of Morrison has commented on a Laura Nyro TH-cam track that she was Jim's favourite singer. At Monterey 1967 Nyro performed in between The Byrds and Jefferson Airplane backed by the Wrecking Crew, aged 19.
Laura Nyro was such a tremendous talent.
“An hour and a half is too long for anybody” Mick Jagger. Back in the day sets were pretty short. Laughable now because Jagger and every other rockstar changed their tune, but we’re glad of it.
What would Mick have said about The Grateful Dead?...lol
@@willieluncheonette5843 Or a four hour Bruce Springsteen concert? 😂
@@boomtownrat5106 wow...had no idea his shows were that long
I think The Who get credited for introducing marathon performances with Tommy
@@boomtownrat5106 I read an interview with Keith Richards where he complained that Bruce Springsteen concerts were too long.
I saw both groups on this tour. Saw the Doors at the Roundhouse with Jefferson Airplane. Also saw Jefferson Airplane on Hampstead Heath. Loved Both!! ❤️
You are truly blessed
Well, what about it?
Wild that The Doors had trouble getting any sort of traction on the charts, yet a cover of their song (done quite differently) was much more successful on that same chart.
I noticed that too! So The Doors couldn't release Light My Fire in the UK because Jose Feliciano of all people had the rights to it? I don't understand 😆
What was the chart position of both versions of LMF ?
@@nathalieplum2137 The Doors released "Light My Fire" in the UK in 1967 but it didn't mean a thing in the charts. Jose Feliciano covered it a year later and it was a huge hit,
The Doors were magical! Loved them ever since I was a kid. It's fascinating how harsh the critics were back then. Really enjoy these snapshots of rock history!
Yes the Doors did not get any respect over there.
@@ericcrawford3453 It's mystifying because they had hits in numerous countries during their time and Brit artists would go on to cover some of their songs.
I think they were used to standard pop being pumped out at the time and just didn't get bands like the Doors and Jefferson Airplane.
I was surprised to learn that The Doors' hit Touch Me didn't even chart in the UK despite going on to be #1 in the US and Canada and top 10 in numerous other nations
Linda Easley I agree with what you said, about Doors not connecting with Britain's young audiences & your right they were being overwhelmed with R&B , rock. It almost seems to this day they haven't completely embraced Jim & Doors.
I honestly think the British music press were scared of them because the Doors were so dark and different
Jim read that article and he made his next songs vitriolic and staggering - but they're all masterpieces to me.
It is funny that 'Hello I Love You' is so similar to 'All Day and All of the Night' - I never noticed that before. They've both stood the test of time and are considered to be quintessential rock.
Densmore stated in his memoir that the beat was copped from Sunshine of Your Love, but people missed that because most people listen to the melody.
@@markhunter8554 That's interesting. I haven't finished watching this video yet.
@@markhunter8554 ...and there's the "Stronger than dirt" line at the end referencing the Sunshine lifting of its opening notes from an Ajax commercial of the time.
Didn't Ray Davies sue the Doors over this tune?(Heart breaking for me because I love both bands.
@@patrickeffiom97 Thanks for asking, I just Googled it. No need to have a broken heart, read the last sentence. It's still Rock n' Roll to me - and I love both bands and both songs too:
"The final ruling? The Doors had to pay royalties to Ray Davies after the lawsuit for the band successfully ripping off his guitar riff. But ripping off riffs is basically the backbone of rock music."
I've always heard that Morrison had his ups and downs when it came to performances and it sounds as if the audiences might not have gotten the best of him this time around. But I can't imagine anyone calling the Doors unoriginal; they sounded like no other band from the start and even their last big album was like nothing else on the radio. Even with whatever similarities it had to "All Day, And All of the Night", "Hello I love you." had a unique sound, especially for 1968, despite them calling it their one sacrificial, radio-friendly, "bubblegum" track. The only times I disliked their music were when Morrison tried to get too bluesy, as in "Road House Blues" and the bridge of "LA Woman". Those were the only tracks on which I considered his singing anything less than perfect.
Very well put.
I was somewhat shocked by the comment that the Doors were unoriginal. I would like to travel back and time and ask the person who made that comment what bands the Doors sounded like. Like you said, they sounded like no other band.
Enjoyed the Doors-ish background music which I'm assuming was all yours.👍😃👍Great video.
Yes, I recorded the Doors-ish background music. Glad you liked it! Cheers!
Bizarre how one contributor said the Doors were “unoriginal?” There is literally no band that sounds like the Doors-from the first notes of virtually any of their songs, you know exactly who it is.
Well....if you haven't learned it by now...you will....Critics are USELESS - don't ever waste your time reading their written TRIPE and clueless reviews...
You can immediately identify it by that horrible organ sound, accompanied by tuneless drivel.
@@Ndlanding Likely why after 50 years they are legends who are more popular now than when Morrison was alive.
@@ernestintownandjackintheco1024 Popular now? I doubt many kids have heard of them, and any current fame The Doors might have is illusory, and only used by writers of articles who have nothing better to say. Go on, give us a 12-pager on the Blossom Toes. Make them "popular"!
@@Ndlanding They have more than 5 songs over 100 million plays. They are continuously a significant act. You’re blatantly and willfully stubborn if you can’t see that.
This is a great commentary on their European tour. Thank you for this insight.
Jim Morrison was also quoted once as saying the Jefferson airplane was the most boring band he'd ever heard. I must say I agree.
That Doors concert at the Roundhouse was AMAZING
This was really interesting. Had no idea this pairing ever existed and it's true it could never happen in America cause those two are BIG headliners. Never saw The Doors live but did dig their early albums. The Airplane I saw many times in their heyday and twice Jack Casady took me in with him at the entrance to the Fillmore East when we poor kids were bumming for spare tickets.
The Airplane is a very important group historically. Their first album, Takes Off, with original singer Signe Anderson, is a terrific folk rock LP. Then Grace took over singing and they dropped Surrealistic Pillow. It was a game changer. The album, released one year after Takes Off in September 1967, was a monster hit, peaking at #3 on the Billboard top 200 chart and staying on the chart over a year. It also yielded two top 10 singles. Somebody To Love reached #5 and White Rabbit #8. This marked the first time ever one of the hippie bands had a nationwide hit. And the floodgates were about to open.
BTW I wonder how many readers here know what a Jefferson Airplane, in the hippie culture, is.
Who cares
That kind of little plier to smoke joint not to burn the fingers????
@@Methilde not little pliers but rather a common match, it's two light cardboard strands separated a bit and then held together holding the joint. Looks like a tiny airplane with the two wings....lol..
@@willieluncheonette5843 Thanks for your explanation. Saw those Littles pliers in London, but yes don't look like an airplane.
@@Methilde It's called a roach clip.
Was there for The Doors at The lsle Of Wight 1970. To be honest you couldn’t see much , because as far as l can remember they performed on a barely illuminated stage.. Apparently , they were not keen on giving permission to be filmed, so they had minimal stage lights on.. Perhaps they always performed on a dimly lit stage? Very atmospheric though!
They were still filmed tho.
@@marguskiis7711 Yes, you can see videos on youtube, the Doors were pretty good and Morisson cool and concentrated.
@@Methilde Yeah, as someone has already mentioned , there’s an interview backstage with Jim. Considering this was supposed to be his heavy drinking period, he’s very coherent . I remember reading somewhere that he shared a bottle of whiskey that evening with l think Roger Daltrey( might have been Moon?) before the show. They were both on Saturday evening running into early hours Sunday. Ten Years After and ELP also on that evening in the dark..
@@lthompson7625 Yep,it was Roger i think,though Pete Townsend said Jim had told him he felt trapped but could not get out of it.Sad really.
What a combo arriving then.
Both leaders in music in their own way.
I'd not like to say which was the better band.
There's a Rizla between them.
Jagger? Jealous.
Hey, just new to your channel, really excited about it. Facts about the bands, no sides taken. Keep the great work. Cheers from Rio, Brazil.
At first I was insulted by the apparent anti American bias of the critics, but then I remembered how viciously Pink Floyd was attacked by probably the same assholes, in another video of this wonderful channel. The just don't like creativity... Lol, the Doors are criticised for having a prepared stage act, then the Airplane (the Jeffersons ) for not.
yeah, that was funny.
!!!Smiling ears!!!
The British press was harsh and opinionated towards everyone, I never realized the Kinks and Doors debacle,I think the press put too much personal opinion in those articles, I'm sure a lot of the fans didn't feel the same..
seems that way. And when punk started, Oh that must have gotten their panties in a bunch.
Jagger said once that a journalist needs to be rough and bad to wrote in English papers.
FN amazing TH-cam channel always brilliantly produced. Excellent rock n’ roll history 🙏
Thanks!
Would have been amazing to 👀 The Airplane ✈️ & The Doors 🚪 on the same bill.
This is a great site... thank you to the people behind it...
Thank you, glad you enjoy the channel.
Finally Jefferson airplane! 😃
Contrast these west coast bands reception in UK to Creams reception at the Fillmore in San Francisco the year before. Cream held everyone in awe, incl the other bands playing there.
They were the best, no group came close 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Cream was a major influence on Jorma and Jack.
@SoftserveSodium Listen to Hendrix experience live versus Cream live there’s no comparison even Hendrix got tired of the experience and went to the Band of Gypsys before he killed himself! Too soon?
'Cream' didn't blow 'The MC5' off the stage in Detroit though...
I'll bet that cream was great early on,but when I saw them circa Wheels of Fire they could be quite boring. Solos are great if you have something to say/play, but it sounded like had to extend every song with noodling. Of course, I must say that I find the Dead just as guilty at times. Generally I found live jazz more touched by creativity.
What's funny is the kinks sued the doors for ripping off "All Day and All of the Night" when they themselves ripped off Howlin' Wolf's " Smokestack Lightning"
Edit: The Kinks used Smokestack for "Last of the Steam Powered Trains"
Beg borrow and steal
Well, what do you expect from the miserly Ray Davies.
He was a cheapskate who wouldn't even pay.his session musicians#!
Just for a second there I thought you had film of Hello I Love You on TOTP! 😯
I wish!
In his heyday Jim Morrison was by far more charismatic than Mick jagger in my opinion. It's just that Jim Morrison threw it all away and Jagger prevailed as the rock star who outlived all the male sex symbol rock gods. If Morrison had cleaned his act up and gotten himself together him and the doors would have been around a lot longer and be true competitors to the Stones but history showed that was never meant to be. Morrison may have lived an extremely short life but his contributions to contemporary music are immense.The Doors music will always be popular and the legacy of James Douglas Morrison forever lives on.
From the live footage I have seen of Morrison, he never worked the stage like Jagger. So, from that perspective, I think Jagger had more charisma.
@@ericdailey8587 Nah Mick is a pretentous fop. An energetic entertainer true but no artist. The artist in that bad was pushed out (Brian Jones). In the End (yes irony alert) the Doors music will out live, if not the Stones legend then their music, as their is iconic and timeless and a huge influence on modern music. The Stones are very dated these days. My sons's generation like about 4 of their songs while the Doors inspired Hip Hop (Snoop and Dr Dre) and New Wave bands like the Stranglers and Death Metal. When the Boomers pass on so will Stones nostalgia. NOT the Doors whose music is timeless. Jagger 'worked the stage' so much that me and my friends left half way through in disgust and boredom. How about just singing well instead and with feeling instead of handing the mic to girls in the audience, stupid shallow and sounded fucking AWFUL!!
As always, interesting to hear the UK side on the music of my American youth. I felt/feel the same about the Doors as those who found Morrison pretentious and pompous, though I liked them okay at the time. But they were so huge here in the US. I'm with David Crosby's take, and we really forgot about them in the U.S. until movie soundtracks and a movie about them revived interest permanently. Never had heard the comparisons to Jagger, or to the Kinks song - and I was a big fan of the early Kinks. I can hear the similarity now, but it didn't seem obvious then. The quote from Morrison about the one show was really sweet.
And I was the only big JA fan I knew in 1968 and beyond. They had the 2 hit singles in the US in 1967 and then there were enough of us buying the albums to keep them going, I guess. Never got to see them in person, but from the live recordings I've heard, I can understand those who didn't love them in concert. Though when I saw Hot Tuna a few years later, at least Jack and Jorma contributed to a really professional set.
This is hilarious, the English media hate great things when they aren't English, just because the doors are legendary and Jim Morrison literally like a God. seems like alot of jealousy on the English side, I'm a manc and none of my favourite musicians are English. The English media hate everything that isn't English, I can think of several examples where legendary bands from North America, Australia and Europe are penalised and bullied literally because they are something and they aren't a Brit. how ugly that one of most of my favourite life long idols got such bad treatment when visiting my home country
RE: The Doors "The band appeared on Top Of The Pops to promote their new single 'All Day And All Of The Night' ".
Bloody critic’s , I think they expected the Doors to play exactly as the album’s 😵💫
Gee, what a great time this was. I still think Jefferson Airplane were the best group to come out of America.
Definitely one of the best. Love them.
Very interesting mini-documentary about Jefferson Airplane and The Doors. 👍
Thanks!
You can see the Doors performance at the Roundhouse in the film the Doors are Open - listen to the applause and you can tell they went over rather well. One of my favorite shows. Best live version of When the Music‘s over. The comparison with Jagger has always baffled me. The best that can be said is that they are both vaguely dark. But Jagger has nothing to compare with the raw emotional power of Morrison screaming, “Save us, Jesus!“ against that chaotic wall of sound.
Well said, Ernest!
One gets the feeling that Mick was never in love with anyone- except himself.
There's no Pamela in his life
The American press compared The Doors to the Stones right from the start.
Before the Brits did.
One interesting similarity:
Both went to college.
Jagger, to the prestigious London School of Economics.
Jim went to UCLA and GRADUATED!
Both him and Ray .
Probably the ONLY two rock musicians who can make that claim( Frank Zappa may have also gotten a degree)
@@brucemarshall3446 Well, there’s Queen’s Brian May the astrophysicist.
@@ernestintownandjackintheco1024 Wow!
In general Brits were better educated than American musicians.
Seems like the audience 'got' both groups, but most critics didnt. I never thought I'd hear someone complain about the Doors playing an hour and a half! You can't really compare Morrison and Jagger, Morrison was or thought he was an intellectual. Jagger was much more of an extrovert, definitely 'greasier ' than Jim. Ironic that Jim didn't like the Kinks cover that made the Doors famous!😁
Great vid we need more Doors
Holy shit...comments from people who were there. I was too one month into being 14 with my 12 year old sister. There were so many police and loads of Americans. We were told not to go out as we would never get back in. Jerry Rubin (Yippie founder) was there with his posse. I was right by the stage and went berserk to the music. It was hilarious seeing a naked conga line. Grace was gorgeous. Check out 'The Doors are Open' on youtube.
excellent
Epic presentation. I did have to check that "Tony Wilson" wasn't the Factory Records guy.
A bit of irony that in their early days British folk rock icons Fairport Convention sounded very similar to Jefferson Airplane. At least they got it.
They were patterned after the Airplane.
Their first album definitely sounded a lot like Jefferson Airplane.
very cool
The 2nd photo near the end is The Albert Hall, not The Roundhouse.
The future postpunk manager Tony Wilson was a big Doors fan, I see.
He had quite an ear for shit.
@@SPINNINGMYWHEELS777 Yeah an Otis shouty shouty all my records sound the same Redding fan.
@@MarkStevens8899 you are crying in the youtube comments again 🍼 mommy will be there to change your diapies soon
I was at the Isle of Wight festival in 1968 I was blown away with J.A. Absolutely brilliant.i. Was a soul and Ska boy but this really turned me on to J.A and other music loved it . I think it cost £1:10 shillings (1:50 now) . Loved it.
Miss Ewe watched this episode 👍😊😎🔥
Miss Ewe is cool 😎
9:09 - " Journalist " Tony Wilson would found 🏭 Records & ✍️ Joy Division ➗️.
Excellent
Awesome
Interesting opinions on that tour.
Back then I probably listened to the Airplane more than the Doors, but that's totally not true now.
Haven't actively listened to the Airplane (/Starship) in a decade but still go on occasional jags of listening to the Doors.
I have had the opposite experience. Major Airplane fan (though admittedly, being a bass guitarist, I obviously prefer Jack Casady to a bass keyboard). I never listen to Starship.
@@markhunter8554 The Starship - Dragonfly album kinda ruined Airplane for me.
I received it as a Christmas present and liked it well enough at the time.
But, something about it wore me out of the whole Airplane lyrics and sound, which is a shame because I used to really enjoy Airplane.
@@paulcooper8818 At least Jefferson Starship was listenable, though no way on the same level as the Airplane. The Starship (i.e. the post Kantner band) were music corporation stooges who were incapable of an original thought or of producing a good song. A total betrayal of Jefferson Airplane.
@@paulcooper8818 haha ,,, 8 platinum and gold jefferson starship albums from 74 to 84 the best of times
@@markhunter8554 3 number ones in 1 and 1/2 year not too bad ....HONKY ps JOURNEY never had a number one ( LOVING TOUCHING SQUIRTING ANOTHER )
The Doors on top of the pops wow that blows my mind.
Wow!
Would love to see THAT#
I never knew they played in the UK, other than the isle of wright fest. Thanks for the video!
Ever since that Oliver Stone film i find The Doors becoming more ridiculed by recent music critics and Morrison seen as a sixth form bad poet etc.Something called Blender had The End as one of the worst songs of all time.I stand by them,especially the first two and last two albums a wonderful blend of bues and psychedelia,topped off with Morrison's crooning baritone.
To this day The Doors have continuously sold well. People support great music, critics just want to look cool, witty and insightful to other critics.
Any current college student in UK for example will play their music. Have posters of Jim.
They were true originals, and much of their work holds up well. While critics in search of a controversial or "fresh" angle on beloved musicians come and go, the Doors' music is still selling well to new generations of fans.
@@christopher9152 spot on.
"The End"? One of the best songs of all time. Worst of all time? "We Built this City" by the Airplane's bastard child Starship!
good show
Tmk the Airplane had another concert that year with Arthur Brown on the Isle of Wight which as far as I know didn't count as an IOW festival.
I love your videos, keep it up
The Doors still remains the most unique band in rock history and one of the greatest musical acts ever known to humanity. The raw truth and theatricality they were displaying (lyrically, musically and on facts) still hit so deeply the people who get to know them, and the ones discrediting are not clowns, they are the entire circus 🤡 , terrified pussies who will never understand the world we live in.
Fantastic vid!.
The Doors side has been covered but not the Airplane in most accounts.
Loved to read the Brit reaction. Very strange. The footage of those shows depicts THE DOORS at their peak yet the critics were unimpressed. Methinks their is a bit of Brit chauvinism going on here.
Do you think ? More than a little. Scratch the surface and there is often a seething jealousy and resentment.
Funny to see at 5:17, a shot of Chalk Farm Roundhouse the actual venue followed at 5:23 and mistakenly by a shot of The Royal Albert Hall. A bit sloppy i'nit?
This was really fascinating. I read years ago when Mick Jagger was asked about this "American Mick Jagger" his reply was "boring." As personalities Jagger and Morrison were day and night. Morrison hated being a rock star and destroyed himself. Jagger is pushing 80 and still going strong and seems to be suited to the limelight. Jagger was much better (and still is) in self-preservation.
Jagger was always more of a professional, business type of person and showman as far as music who also enjoyed al the glamour of it. It is not like he did not do drugs but it seems he stayed away from the hard stuff unlike Richards who even though was on heroin in the 70s could nevertheless function well alongside Jagger writing and touring. Meanwhile Morrison was happy in displaying decadence in a "poet maudit" outlook, mixed later on with countercultural agitator, and he seriously lived that role ending up in heroin it seems by 1970. But what you say maybe Morrison did get bored or tired of that by 1970 and so that is when the idea of just writing poetry got to him while he seems was already on hard drugs and so one can see him in the Isle of Wight festival in 1970 very still onstage. In that sense Morrison might have been more Brian Jones than Jagger
@@EclecticoIconoclasta Interesting
The matter with Morrison is that he was verry unpredictable on stage, some times great, some times out but in studio always perfect.
Mick Jagger owned a large country estate. Jim Morrison spent most of his time at a seedy hotel near the Sunset Strip.
@@marlonelliot8943 who would you rather ? though
there is band that appears in the line-up of that 1st Isle of Whigt festival called The Smile....could be the one that turned out to became Queen?
That Granada tv show is great! Where was Densmore at that Roundhouse ?
It sounds as if there was a wee bit of jingoism flying around in the UK music press at this time, a looking down the nose at anything that wasn't British.
There was probably some of that but, at the same time, they wrote very enthusiastically about plenty of american bands. Take "Forever Changes" by Love, for instance. It went pretty much unnoticed in the States but it got great reviews in the british press and it even managed to get in the Top 30 album charts in the UK. I think the main reason why they weren't impressed with many of the West Coast bands was because they sounded very loose on stage. The psychedelic bands from Britain came from a R&B/mod background and they seemed to be tighter.
@@YesterdaysPapers Yeah maybe I was being a bit harsh and putting over an opinion without looking into it too much. Forever Changes is definitely one ot the greatest albums ever made. Peace & Love 🤟
Music and bands sometimes have to age like a fine wine. I think The Doors probably worked better as a studio band as the music is intimate sounding, and probably would have worked better on a stereo in somebody's living room rather than in a cavernous hall.
Of course, it had to end with Jim passing out on stage
The comparison to Mick Jagger was totally ridiculous Morrison was a one of kind performer As much as I love Mick Jagger he couldn't hold Jim's jockstrap The West is the Best 😈
I feel the opposite way. As much as I love Morrison, I think Jagger was a much better frontman.
Morrison was boring Imo, never got the the hype and his “poetry” is ridiculous.
@@ianstu1940 No its not your just too thick to get it
I guess because I am American and feel the Doors never got the respect in the UK they deserve Don't get me wrong Jagger great I put him just behind Morrison 😎
@@YesterdaysPapers IMO Morrison is ultimately a superior frontman. Mick Jagger has been around for so long that his act is just ruined and stale.
Morrison had a mystique about him.
guy~unusual done~all the best.
Of all the places you most expect Jim Morrison to collapse, it would have to be Amsterdam.
There was alleged to be a tryst between Grace and Jim. This would seem like a time and place when it could have happened.
Ruth Donnelly best review ever. May not agree but damn that was a great write up.
All theatre, prefabricated in Laural canyon. Love both bands though, I even like the Mickey Thomas version (up until they dropped the Jefferson anyway) Love all the Doors albums aside from the non Jim ones. I didn't like his later conservative radio work though. Also this channel is so high quality, love it.
Thanks!
Sounds like the British music critics of the time had a nasty case of "group think". I can imagine them all getting together after a show clucking on about the two band's shows. The West Coast music wave of that era had it's own vibe, clearly not in sync with British bands of the day. Morrison was as different from Jagger as Jagger was to James Brown... all great in their on way.
I guessing people went to Airplane to see if Grace would "flash" the audience. How could a UK audience get Morrison? They wouldn't know which Jim would show up.
No, we went for the music, something you wouldn't understand.
@@chasjohn57 they were nude?
no biatch they waited around or hours supposed to play saturday night but were pushed back until sunday morning , still sounded better than half the bands on woodstock , and they are on the directors cut!
@@chasjohn57 The Airplane do Saturday Afternoon/Won't you try on the Woodstock Film, watch and learn.
The Doors have "paltry lyrics"--? What? Maybe she got it wrong and saw The Dores at some pub ...
The British Press found Morrison "pompous and pretentious". Thats a laugh, coming from England, the originators of foppish pomp and pretentiousness.
So very true
The press in the UK are harsh and opinionated about everyone - they are renowned for the sneering condescension they mete out to all and sundry. Many of them are thoroughly unpleasant gutter dwellers, and the music press were in my experience the worst of the lot. However I think they had a pretty good point in this instance, whatever you think of The Doors music.
"The Jeffersons"? That was a TV show. We would call Grace & Co. "The Airplane".
Who remembers the critics?.....no one............
With respect.to the stones I'm sorry but I feel the Doors are just flat out better than stones, I'm sorry but Jim Morrison is much deeper and much more interesting than jagger. To quote Elvis mick moves on stage like a chicken on acid!!!! Thanks for another blast from the past.
that last reviewer was hilarious! threshing machine! ha! lumbering! genius...
Im a bit mystified why they are comparing Jim Morrison to Mick Jagger so much. I wasn't ever able to see the Doors live, but I have seen the Stones. Anyway, perhaps its just based on what the music scene was at the time. The Rolling Stones were so big in England at that point that it made sense, I guess, to compare everyone and anything musical to them. In retrospect I think a lot of these Journalists might see it differently.
Jim Morrison never compared himself or tried to be like Mick Jagger.
They are night and day in comparison.
Always thought Iggy was a Jagger/Morrison hybrid with a lot of insanity thrown in!
Jagger was one of his idols. Look up what Jerry Garcia said about the Doors.
I agree, f.w. I think Iggy himself has claimed that Jagger and Morrison were his biggest influences as a performeer.
@@ianstu1940 Garcia was a twat at times,like David Crosby,probably jealous of Jim getting all the chicks 🤣🤣
John Peel criticizing The Doors !
6:30
It seems to me they didn't put the right birthdays of Ray Manzarek and Robby Krieger. Krieger was born in January 8, and they wrote August 1. And Manzarek was born in February 12, and if i see it well, they wrote he's born in December.
I agree with Jim, Love Street is better than Hello, I Love You.
TRES Cool
the press was obviously Mick - Jagger - centered back then
Nice one 👍🏻.
They could have also written about Morrisons admiral father and his key role in the escalation of the Vietnam war.
What had that to do with The Doors?
It's a shame about all of the drugs, and the fact that I can't get any of them.