The Real Reason The US Wants To Ban TikTok
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The "have you ever been a member of the communist party" question was disturbingly familiar. Half a century on and the US is still scared of reds under their beds.
That's because the people in charge of this country were early in their political careers or listening to the anti-communist propaganda in school during peak McCarthyism.
We literally had mosques get raided by cops because someone inside praying "might be a member of the Communist Party", in a manner not too dissimilar to al-Aqsa. Yeah, South Africa in 1984 was somewhat ...Orwellian.
It literally took Communist guerillas/militants offering to guard mosques while armed with PKMs, Dragunovs and Vektor/Galil rifles to get cops to actually back off for good.
this is why i will always believe the soviets won the cold war outright. the US are still so frightened of anything even remotely resembling communism that they’ll make their own quality of life worse.
Don't think the US is scared of red, because they know China is not red anymore. What they want is money and control, fearmongering is simply a method help them achieving their goal.
Eh, the reds do exist but they come of all stripes just like most other ideology. Fascists are capitalists who succeed in the division of their populace and employ violence to subdue dissent. I have a strong belief that we are a fascist country but they put on airs, very ineffectually at the present. The youth know and this has the gerontocracy worried. Sorry elders, sometimes your kids disappoint and they would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for us meddling kids.😂
It is absolutely wild that the obviously non-genocidal position on Palestine is so divisive for advertisers (commenting on intro).
This does happen, but it doesn’t explain everything. Other channels have the same positions on Palestine.
It is a normal capitalistic position.
@@Spiral.Dynamics this is true! It's definitely part of it though, maybe he thought it was the most prominent factor because he's had the same talking points for a while and this is perhaps the only thing that changed between having sponsors and not
Communism is jewish
Stalin, Lenin were jewish
"the US Regime..." that's a phrase not heard very often... I love this guy
Should add fascist
@fhf3223 Well... did he lie tho?
I use the term Biden Regime or US Regime often. Just not on fb anymore, or they suspend me.
LoL 😂
@erenyeagerist7681 Excuse me but what US regime achieved making them qualified as fascists?
😂 I'm not American but travel a lot and I can assure you that it's a normal term out in the world.
Last month I cancelled my subscription to Sam Harris and others supposedly free thinkers that are pro-genocide. I'm joining Second Thought patreon now.
Glad you cancelled your subscription to Sam Harris. He's not a "thinker". He's actually pretty dumb.
I was fond of Sam for a very long time, it's disappointing to see him go down this path.
Me too! Sam Harris has lost the plot
Gross about Sam Harris.
Nice. Harris is a genocide supporter. He also minimized the civilians killed in Iraq war as well. And very calm about 100s of 1000s of civilians killed. Yeah...he is a very biased propagandist..at best. A genocide supporting fascist at worst
At this point, I feel like American politics really is just that Family Guy episode where Lois is running for mayor and just starts saying 9/11 over and over, but now its just "CHINA!"
That’s how it goes in America, it was the Soviet Union, Al Qaeda, ISIS, Russia and now China. All they have to do is scream those things over and over again and the gullible masses will go crazy. Meanwhile all the real problems in the country goes unaddressed.
China or Russia... or Iran. They just pull out that boggy man, they think fits there mood the best for that day.
@@mrnice4434 or the devil, that usually works too
100%
@@mrnice4434And they say that China Russia and Iran are an 'Axis'.
If a country is capable of ending tens of thousands of kids' lives in broad daylight while the world watches, imagine what it's capable of doing behind closed doors or behind the scenes. Much respect to ANY public figure speaking against it, because it takes courage.
You should hear what an Israeli doctor in one of their prison camps was just reported on saying today. They admitted to committing crimes here in the prison including restraints being left on so tight that leg amputations were common
Check out brave Cornel West, Presidential candidate, who pulls no punches on issues of war crimes and US imperialism!
Check out Zeitgeist: Requiem by Peter Joseph (trailer online now, full film out soon)
Check out One Small Town Contributionism. Because we are either going to come together as community members in mutual aid to survive and thrive past capitalism, or capitalism will destroy us.
@@ColumnPsend link please
The founding fathers were evil, genocidal, racist, slave owners. America is built on hate by the ruling class.
@@SerPapusThe story starts @5:10 th-cam.com/video/u_lBc6yLDlU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=LiyoczOe6iYiTYHT
We are so stuck on doing the same old thing: work. Home. Repeat. The mindset to be proactive or responsible has been lost on most Americans. Attaching oneself to a local community is best. Fighting for the “greater cause” is, often, too abstract to feel emotional invested in.
not even abstract atp because we all know what it’s supporting. Banks, corporations, genocide,white supremacy, shareholders etc.
it’s not benefitting us and we forgot that community is the main way we can help each other somewhere along the lines when consumerism propaganda took over
They want you to get busy with work, so you have no time to confront them about their doings
I'm lowkey glad TH-cam, despite most probably being demonitised, is allowing these
except videos like these will almost never be recommended by the algorithm to non subscribers or people that most need to see it
To be honest, my guess is that they allow it to get names for a list and feed info to bots. At this point, about half of my comments are deleted minutes after writing them, regardless of the subject.
Scary. This was in my "recommended" feed today! Maybe they allow it to help them build a list of targets to send the attack drones after once they declare marshall law. Tip: the drones cannot get a thermal read on a person if you are wrapped in one of those shiny "space blankets" they hand out at the finish line for marathons (it traps the heat). Here's hoping that never comes in handy 😂.
@@jesusojeda7850I saw your comment after I posted a similar response. Hahaha! Scary times. I need to read "1984" again.
@@jesusojeda7850Almost all comments of mine on the issue of Pls,tn are removed. Never been subjected to this lvl of cnsrshp before
The fact that that ban bill took 4 days is insane, this is probably the fastest government actions from Whitehouse I have seen
its probably because they've all got shares in the company they want tiktok to sell the shares to.
Also see vaping laws
@@Warsie Would you mind summarizing it from your perspective?
@@intrin3t_3ncrypt3d They didnt restrict vaping because of concern for the youth, they wanted to just virtue signal and kneecap a rival industry. Going after Juul was just worthless given the cheaper vapes, yes cheaper stuff like pod mods which arent as expensive and dont have proprietary bullshit in them.
They wanna save American children? B A N - G U N S - N O T - T I K T O K !!!!
"money, corruption, the maintenance of empire"
Why is it when something happens, it's always you three?
They are self serving, empires need money to be maintained, corruption is illegal lobbying, so you know how it works, and we'll mainted empire's make money for those who corrupt, and the cycle repeats
economic and military power are the closest to fundamental social forces as you can get. so if any misdeed is to become stable or repeated, it would be one that serves the attainment or maintenance of this power
@@pallingtontheshrike6374 oh great, may I use this to explain systemic racism and sexism?
@@minestar2247 i mean, both are stemming from wanting control over the target group’s labor power, and in the case of racism depriving them of all military power especially so you can maintain control over their labor power (see: uh, every colonial settler state ever). sexism is most directly about dominating and controlling women’s labor/labor power, though it later on is forced to use more convoluted, less blatant methods of control.
domination of another’s ability to live, via domination of their labor or of critical resources or both, is the core of economic domination and gaining and exerting economic power.
philosophically speaking, the right to live is the most basic and most fundamental right, at least, if you recognize any rights at all.
economic power and military power are the positive and negative enforcements/implementations of this right.
economic power allows you to dictate (decide, will) who lives, military power allows you to dictate who doesn’t.
in this way, a deliberate usage of economic power to deprive another is correctly interpreted as a form of war, or at least feuding.
and of course, military power can be used to forcibly acquire limited economic power.
so the boundary between the two can be very hazy at times.
now that economic power in the form of money and money capital has been allowed to freely exchange itself with almost all other forms of power, of course issues pertaining to rights and life will inevitably lead back to economic power. and due to the haziness of the boundary between e power and military power, as well as continued chaos internationally, of course some of these issues will also lead inevitably to the abuse of military power.
Senator: have you ever eaten Chinese food? Do you own anything made in China?
Lol
Yes, I have just eaten a chasiewbao, and I own a Christmas tree made in China😂
My underwear was made in China.
Have you ever seen a Chinese?
@@Lim-212 . . . and do you decorate that tree with Chinese made ornaments?
When i get sucked back into the conditioning through everyone I interact with, your vids help bring me back to reality, and that's truly priceless. Wish it could be more.
"What's it going to take to get Americans to open their eyes..."
I've been asking this question since 9/11, and the answer has been that they'll support fascism instead of supporting each other. They're angrier at each other than they are at the systems responsible. It's wild.
Every American (including me) has been force fed a constant diet of half-truths, myths and outright lies by the gangster capitalists over their entire lives. It's very difficult to rise above propaganda as intense as that, but it's happening, just very slowly.
We're really that ignorant and the propaganda machine is too powerful.
I think it's because people who've tried pointing the atrocities and faults of our system used to be easier to silence and make disappear. Nowadays it's much harder to do. How many leftist movements or prominent leftist individuals in the U.S. were arrested, assassinated, or silenced since the cold war?
I've been asking this question since Viet Nam
Culture wars have been a great distraction.
Sad that standing up for your morals is not a sustainable way to live in this world anymore🥲🥲
Its Freedom we live under folks...
Yeah, scamming elders is a profitable thing to do
@@minestar2247of course..😅 it's capitalism after all
Freedom of speech is dead in America. They are no different from authoritarian states but disguise as a free country
@@SumeriyaYaxlaka us "freedom" good joke, you schizoes NEVER had freedom 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
When was having principles profitable? I dont think a business offering principles as a product will ever be profitable.
Just came across your content and it really resonates with me. They don't have us outnumbered, they have us out organized.
Ehh i mean really how many communism civilians know how to fight? Or to tactically handle guns? You are against the military and police.
@@iirosiren5120 It's US people vs US gov't.
@SamCrowetheCreativeCrowe Well said. The time to organize is now, we have nothing else to lose except for our chains.
“The media’s the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that’s power. Because they control the minds of the masses. The press is so powerful in its image-making role, it can make the criminal look like he’s a the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. This is the press, an irresponsible press. It will make the criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”
― Malcom X
And AIPAC@@hyc1266
Dude from Singapore who repeated so many times it was horribly embarrassing but yet they kept asking about China. I can relate. The American government is so racist..... No wonder there's so much corruption going on. It's a miracle. It's lasted this long
Becauae the company is owned by China
If Singapore and China would had the freedom of press and of speech that exists in the USA, the corruption of Singapore and of China would be seen as being 10 times worse than what is in the USA. This is not a reply only to you, but also to some other people's comments which were different from yours. Although this might end covering the subject that you are interested in, yet this will also cover other people's different subjects that they have mentioned.
Now
applying "@yuliusseraph4973" own logic with the same measure since (QUOTE) "US has free speech because the ruling class aren't feel threatened" (END OF QUOTE) then with the same logic our Bulgarian, Romanian, Hungarian and Polish friends that lived under socialist nations ruled indeed by socialists (before the socialist branch
from
the same party that were more 'on fire' for socialism calling themselves 'communists' before them the regular socialists still , they had no free speech allowed, and allowed no freedom, and did not allow the existence or formation of other parties because they were threatened by the only allowed to exist people: threaten by "the working class" that
escaped
their socialist Sovietic genocide - of the homogeneous working and so called "ruling class." although only a quarter of million ruled over tens to hundreds of millions and all were just "working class" and supposed to all be equal yet some were more poor than the ruling socialists or communists, but yet no freedom of speech was allowed without sentence to death or to labor camps slave labor of the worst
possible
kind, until death . Those countries and dozens of other countries also under socialism and later into communism, from the beginning of the Soviet Socialist invasion, ended all having only one class = the working class with no one rich remained, no rich existent, no rich allowed. No other class survived anymore due to the Socialist Sovietic genocide, yet the Socialist Party and later the Communist part of
the same
party, didn't allow freedom of speech and the party socialist party dictatorship as well as the communist part that followed, sentenced to death everyone that spoke against the party, yet all citizens that were allowed to remain alive and survived were the working class, no middle class, no millionaires yet freedom of speech was not allowed since that was a threat to the party, and as soon as
someone
said something not in line with the Party's politics, was arrested and either sentenced to labor camps and fed with just water and a few slices of bread and nothing else per day to work until death in gulag labor camps, or were just executed, killed; (and that is just because disagreeing with that one party's politics). So your guys that is what you want in the USA. We would like you to end being treated with
your own
medicine as soon as possible. Those socialists members of the dictator party that took power surely were threatened else would have allowed the freedom of speech without trying to get rid of any single person that disagreed with them. Right ? And this matches your socialist propaganda talk that : (QUOTE) "US has free speech because the ruling class aren't feel threatened" (END OF QUOTE) BUT
THAT IS
A GOOD THING PROVING THAT UNDER CAPITALISM THE RULING CLASS DOESN'T FEEL THREATEN AND DOES NOT EXECUTE YOU STINKING SOCIALISTS AND COMMUNISTS PROPAGANDISTS which when if power your own "Socialists and communists brothers" did allow no freedom of speech and did execute those that speak against them. Another example was in France after the second world war when the Socialist Party
never
accepted inside communists as members and never got hijacked by communists, but yet during their continuous rule for more than 35 years, they brought the French society and economy toward bankruptcy and their tolerance for the immigrants islamist Palestinians, Moroccans, Algerians all that were Arab muslims of "is slam" (Islam) made things even worse because once they multiply , instead of
being
thankful toward the socialists that allowed and approved their immigration, they were trying to impose and the socialist France the Islamic fascism to subjugate and convert by force all population to Islam. Life got even worse and the country even more bankrupt and the people said: ENOUGH is ENOUGH and the French have never voted again for the Socialist French Party in the last 33 years so far. The
Socialist
Sweden had also the same failure made worst when allowed Palestinian kind of muslims into their country (Sweden which had almost no crimes, . . with the lowest crimes in Europe) and now is the worst number one country in Europe with the highest number of murders all which has started only after the immigration of islamists among which were also some of the Palestinians. Therefore the Swedish
Socialists
lost the elections as well to now have a capitalist oriented Party to deal better with the crimes and put a stop to the pro Palestinian Islamist propaganda that seems to be contaminating this channels with it's deceit. Perhaps you should listen to the TH-cam Christian Prince channel to get informed with the truth about what Islam is and where it will lead you, especially if you didn't know that Islamic people called
"muslims"
made all Atheists extinct in all Muslim Islamic countries. If you didn't know, now you know. Therefore your stinking and deceitful propaganda exposed in your comments in this video, leads no one to any better future but rather to much worse of a future, worse than evidently, you are unable to imagine, and surely worse than you could ever be in the USA's capitalistic system, as bad as it may be, the socialism
is about
twenty times worse and until you live in it, you won't believe. Therefore we suggest for you to get a visa and more in a socialist country like Cuba, Venezuela or any other socialist country that you may be able to discover, or else in a communist country like North Korea, if you prefer communism. And after few years of live in there, you could have a better sense of reality and knowledge of the truth about what
system
is better. And to "@yamidom9134" as a response to his comment Our Bulgarian, Romanian and Polish friends under Socialism and later under communism were twice to three times more racists in the 1980-ties than has been the Americans, Canadians and the British in the last 50 years to present time. You also could experience racism today in Africa made by black men toward white men that are not rich therefore the black men does not need to hide their
racism
in order to earn money from the white rich men as they have to hide when a white rich man goes to Africa. You could imagine that if you go to Africa and have enough money, you will never employ or share any money with a racist black man that would act like a racist against you, therefore as soon as
he knows
that you have money, he will hide his black racism until you are out of money. So don't play the racist card because every country has some racists, even China got racists against black people while there are some black racists against white not only in Africa but even in America. Stop being a hypocrite and repent IF YOU DID NOT DO IT ALREADY BY NOW.
Not really racism...
More of paranoia and bias, They will attack anything that they deem as a threat. Even if it is not.
When it comes to geopolitics, I find it really fascinating how so many policies, rulings, and decisions are made but where the purported reasons behind them aren't the main reasons, which cannot be openly stated. Everyone is tip-toeing around the elephant in the room, and as long as it isn't mentioned it's all fine. If it's mentioned, it's denied, and everyone soon gets back to circling around the elephant.
what is the elephant in the room?
@@glowiedetector I'm talking generally. But it's always different from the public reason. Like Huawei, Tiktok, Israel/Palestine. There are always words and topics that the politicians avoid, even during interviews with journalists where they're explicitly asked about them.
@@Ermude10 Happens with national politics too though. As just one example, Germany is hosting Euro 2024, and they deliberately made it impossible to track the overall cost to the taxpayer, to avoid the inevitable resistance.
Politics is always a game of optics because the politicians have to be palatable to voters. However in a capitalist society where money rules what they also have to do is to make their donors happy, which are usually not the people that will have the power to vote them in. And thus you see them dance their little dances to get elected and reelected while still ensuring the money from their donors keeps flowing.
Who cares that they have to lie, it's all just a play for that sweet, sweet illusion of power and enough money to set themselves above the rabble that has to vote for them.
geopolitics is not for the plebs and serfs. its for the elites. you watch the circus and live your prescribed life.
This is why we can’t have political views different from *Capitalism.* Once the big investors get even a glimpse of someone with slight _Socialist_ leanings, they’ll stop all funding and let the his funds run dry, _economic starvation_ at it’s worse.
Ah, but then we working class, from min wage to low end millionaires, will financial starve first in that game of chicken. Personally, i think the lie flat movement in China has some substance. It isn'twhat the CCP media depicts; the younger generations are not just choosing to be homeless. They are actively refusing to work for barely subsistence/slave wages and still not have a place to even sleep or eat without it being provided by the employer. Better off Chinese are refusing to have children or invest their money in the Chinese market (that is why Chinese based LLCs have gotten into the western residential real estate) and so on.
We should starve the capitalist machine of children and/or our labor and consumption. We dont need 90% of what we buy and the capitalistic machine will just lay you off one way or the other with automation and/or AI.
Economic blacklisting is even worse. Imagine not being able to open a bank account, clear a background check for a job or insure your car/home because of your political views.
Yep! It happened to Lee Camp, Abby Martin, Peter Joseph and Michael Tellinger. If you see any of their works it'll be very clear why this is.
In the same way they strangled all socialist countries with sanctions and trade blockades. And then they were like: "communism doesn't work, don't you see? We banned commodity and technology exchange from this country, and now it's a shithole, say thanks to the local commies!"
isms are a low-resolution mode of thinking
Became a patreon, this channel cannot be sabotaged this easily.
are u stupid????? it isn a risk of sabotage, this dude has an income of around 50000 dollars a month lmfao, he just wants this channel to make him money omg you guys are so gullible. He already had like 18,000 patreons across all his accounts which isl like over a $100,000 a month
Arghhhh you’re so good at pinpointing and explaining these things 🥹 I genuinely feel like this channel is changing the world for the better
Tiktok has radicalized my little sister. (24 years old) She was completely uninterested in worlds events before tiktok. Last week the family had dinner. Israel came up and she said. "You can't get in and you cant get out. It's apartheid." This is a woman who's main concerns in life used to be the cast of Love is blind. I am absolutly stunned how quickly tiktok is bringing people up to speed.
Not sure if “up to speed” would be accurate.
It's the access of quick information. It goes both ways. Hers just happen to be the old vs young politics
@@APerson-qw8yy Why?
Telling the truth is radicalization to you?
@@Daniel-rp7nb you might want to sit down when you learn about American tech companies then. Did you even watch the video?
Insane how opposing genocide will lose you money
On the first presses of Frank Zappa's album _Absolutely Free_ there was a billboard in the drawing on the back of the jacket that said "War Means Work For Us All." The subsequent presses had it heavily (but not completely) airbrushed out. Prostitution may be the world's oldest profession, but War has always been the world's oldest economic "disruption" that destabilizes social stability so that mass armed robbery can be temporarily legal.
Maybe he would not be losing money if youtube was not controlled by the Us , but that is just my theory.....
Falling for hamas propaganda should lose you money, rightfully so.
@@arushan54 kkkhamas propaganda? Care to eloberate? Or are you a genocide supporter?
Diaper men appear😂@@arushan54
I'm a UK baby-boomer and have been a member of the Green party since 2019. I left Labour that year when Keir Starmer was elected - He too is sponsored by Israeli Pac money and refuses to demand a ceasefire or call out Israel's genocide, much like Joe Biden. Love your morals and your content - So today I 'Patreon-subcribed' you. Thanks for your content SecondThought!
I don't care. China wants to take over the world and supporting hamas isnt good either
I joined DSA and now I'm working in electoral politics to bring local politicians that represent the interests of the people
@coolalexus . . . I'll tell you something from an 80-year old's perspective kid . . . . NO politician represents the interests of the people. Where did you ever get that idea?
"I'm not willing to compromise myself on the Palestine issue"
Me too. Even my fiance thought I was taking it too far. This is a millennia defining moment, whether we succeed or fail.
My history teacher describe the Palestine protests in the US is similar, if not, the same as Vietnam protests... where protestors were targeted during their career and basically where ever they go
Ruining your marriage for Palestine is weird though
@@lucasmurphy740 lol its not ruining it. I'm just not articulating properly. she gets it now
@lucasmurphy740 i disagree, if my fiance didnt agree with me on the matter of genocide, marriage is out of the question
@@lucasmurphy740 Ruining your marriage to defend a genocide is weirder. It's a legit incompatibility regardless.
It is this channel that introduced me to a new world.
I remember when an economist teacher introduced a young me to capitalism;
he said "capitalism is criminal, a scam". I asked why don't authorities prosecute the capitalists. He said they do but they always bribe their way to make the authorities set laws that will favour them at the expense of people they exploit.
Now, I understand everything
😬Even before the criminal stuff, capitalist companies are pretty horrible. Anecdotally, me and some friends and family have had to escape companies that increase expectations constantly, and don't pay enough. (Or rely on hiring new or younger people, then burning most people out.)
It’s like a virus to a cell
I just joined as I agree 100% with what you say. I'm 80, and none of my biological grandkids plan to have children. But I have grandchildren and great-grandchildren, from my adopted children, and I want to leave a better world for them. That isn't going to happen if our government keeps cutting off our personal freedoms.
@drbettyschueler3235 . . . . What personal freedoms is "our government" cutting off Dr. Betty? --- I mean besides the overturn of Roe vs. Wade, you don't need to flog that dead horse -- it wasn't "our government" that did that, it was the evangelistic Christians who are responsible for that.
What a coincidence... I just renewed my dues for my local DSA since they lapsed, and then watched this video telling me to get organized! I've also recently become a member of CPUSA. Where I live in Cincinnati, I am lucky that we have several organizations to become a part of.
Yeah, ain't joining a group that agrees with you great!?
Didn't you know? It's only meddling if it's China or Russia. 😂🤦♂
Yup. It's FREEDUMB giving for Americans even if its not. Who knew that America would be the first to widely adopt Orwellian Doublespeak!
You didn't say the same when china banned all the apps from America? but if America wants its youth to be controlled by Apps made in china its a Big Deal? that too just one pathetic app?
Otherwise it's just sparkling influence 😏
i as a russian and my people know about america and all this. all of this and what is happening there. its crazy to me that americans are just now waking up to this. we have been saying this
the Russia meddling was a false flag
"Fixing Tik Tok = Making sure the US Government can censor the application without other international "third parties" calling out such censorship publicly. Such baloney!
If the Americans want to stop China from "winning" they should start doing good shit instead of trying to pull the wool over the people's eyes.
China just never spies on the us
Making sure that CHINA get info on US Citizens.
@@elihere1242 your information has already been sold 10 times over by US corporations. Tik Tok didn't need shit
maybe allow youtube operating in china?
I'm on a fixed income and can't always afford to give much but I really appreciate what you're trying to do with this channel and the podcast. We're proud of you, comrade.
Imagine being this gullible.
@@Etherchannel Personally, if I felt people were being mislead I would attempt to make a convincing argument against what they believed to steer people away from things which are not constructive. You know, because I care about others and what happens to them.
I know your comment doesn't come from a place of sincerity but when you're done trolling, I do hope you take time alone to truly consider whether what you are doing is useful or whether taking pointless jabs at strangers on the internet is maybe a waste of your own time.
I'm being sincere. I think you deserve better than that. We all do.
Planning on joining the Patreon as soon as I get paid. This information is too important. Thank you for all your hard work! I’m also making sure to share this with everyone I know.
I canceled my Disney, subscribed to this guy's Patreon. Double win.
Thank you.
Thank you for donating bc I had to stop when I got fired.
Amazing, I was just about to talk to my wife about cancelling Netflix, so I could contribute as well.
On behalf of a lot of us, thank you. Second Thought's videos are so damn good he deserves much more
hero ❤
The reason why the US 'has free speech' is because the ruling class aren't feel threatened. When they are they do not hesitate in squashing it. Simple as.
Thank you for the video, JT!
Nothing is ever truly free, there is always a catch.
The hypocrisy that the US points to China as a country with heavily censored public voices and devoid of free speech, and now they are busy working to buy an entire public comms platform in order to censor it
@MargaretBurmingham As long as there are rules to limit our behavior, we're never free, and and are all caged animals being controlled by the higher ups. We're only given an illusion of freedom. When in reality, our actions, speech, even choices are being determined by what our government, religious authorities or anyone above, deems acceptable.
Full of wisdom. Unfortunately this is very smart of us and that is how they have been able to maintain the status quo at the top and keep most people under the leash
and they overload people with useless info and news, scripted dramas,,,etc to distract them from relevant problems
brother I am inshallah share with ur patrons....and I will tell all my Muslim brothers and sister..to support ur cause. May Allah Bless you!! Love from Bnagladesh
This tik tok ban just proves the point that it doesn't matter who you vote for cause both parties do the exact same thing
They do *almost* the same thing. One of them is substantially less interested in creating a dictatorship though
Wrong. The House of Representatives is controlled by the Trumpists. They passed the ban. The Senate is controlled by Democrats, and they have not, at least so far. Unless you are willing to settle for apathy or violence, you need to work within the system that currently exists. So vote for Democrats, and then pressure them to make changes.
@@qa377but they sure as hell are funding a dictatorship through. Genocide
Hilarious. A dictatorship like how Hillary & Obama, who run the country now?@@qa377
@@qa377both facilitate the dictatorship of capital. One plays the good guys when it comes to optics
I despise ALL social media but I loathe the US government far more.
"its because the US government is not capitalist, its socialist for doing what the people DONT want"
@jeffwhite2511 Like it or not, social media are sometimes the only place where you can find decent discussions and information about current affairs. Systemic newspapers like the WSJ, will always produce bourgeois propaganda.
@@pichitosmalltown3239 wrong, it is capitalist because money trumps EVERYTHING and TikTok cuts into the profits of US companies and they can't stand competition from China
This is the age of INFORMATION. So all the things you may hate about it…information, factual information in every area, is going to supersede anything else because humans are innately curious and want to know more and more and more. Curiosity and critical thinking were killed off for so long…and they want to put those things back to sleep. They hate social media WAY more than anyone else.
Big Business is worse :T
TYSM for your content! I'm subscribing through Patreon!
I tried to send you gratification through TH-cam, but it didn't work due to some country limitations bs.
I'm happy to contribute with your awesome work!
This is legitimately the best video I've seen on this topic. You hit all the points and definitely got my sub!!
Every time the people try to come together powerful entities have a problem with it. Mysterious
Aren't powerfull entities also a form of people coming together?
@@minestar2247 good point
@@minestar2247the difference is in who's coming together. Average folks vs those who already hold control.
@@Kashim_o exactly
The 1% aren't people
*more than half a million homeless starving on the streets for years on end*
"Hey guys, let's ban an app for national security reasons even though we have no evidence of such!"
:c
Like, even more is that America is a participant in two wars currently happening, yet their "democractic" apparatus does nothing, how foolish to trust that a us president like Biden wouldn't be a warmonger
For the record. I found out about the horrors of what's happening to Palestine from Twitch and youtube. Not TikTok. Many of the TT vids are also clips form media like FB, YT, Twitter/X. TYT support went up with their pro stance on Palestine being a victim of genocide.
To be fair, TikTok is genuinely awful for humanity, but that applies to American apps as well.
@@Nemo12417I agree, and I wish the USA would prioritize better. If wishes were fishes.
@Nemo12417 TikTok is no different than the rest of the internet, or anything else humanmade for that matter. It has flaws, and more importantly it has humans, making content that is at times disturbing or degenerate. But amongst it all is the beaten, battered, underappreciated creativity of the human race. Somehow it survives, drowning in what we only see as an ocean of brain-rotting teenagers, and still yet true creativity, true inspiration has managed to thrive here.
So yes, TikTok, like the internet, is overflowing with senseless trash, trash that the app doesn't create, trash that we, as human beings in an equally senseless world, create. Yet despite this it remains one of the last places where you can find living, breathing humans, who are inspired, and who share their creativity with others through their many forms of expression.
TikTok is not awful for humanity, TikTok is showing us what is left of humanity, and what has become of it in the modern age.
Don't shoot the messenger.
I have heard your call to action speeches many times now, but I have to say that this one hit different. Very well said
Possibly the mist well done sevments ive seen by you in a while. This was spot on, and i only wish it were longer. Great job on this!
Red Scare 2 is incoming and somehow there are people want to bring back McCarthyism
Technically this'll be Red Scare 3; the first one was in the 20s.
Actually, this is redscare 3, the first one is what led to Germany going fascist and appeasement
@@devinfaux6987 ahh, history repeating itself, isn't it, so, who do you think will be this century's Italy?
@minestar2247 you mean Italy right now, as it currently stands?😂
Maybe this will be 4
1: Allied intervention in the Russian Civil War
2: Rise of Fascism
3: McCarthyism
4: CHINA
Sad that not supporting genocide is controversial. Just joined Patreon specifically to support this channel. You're doing great work, I recommend the channel all the time.
same, I've literally never been a patreon and I'm not even American but I'm joining because he has integrity and you can cleary see that. It's honestly inspiring. Love from across the pond!
I am actually very surprised that this video is still up as it sums this up quite nicely. Well done and I hope people will find this video in the millions.
One of my CPUSA comrades recomended this video. Amazing stuff JT, keep up the work comrade.
The music industry monopolies simply have taken down the copyrighted music and it already hit hard. This sucks.
Communism is Jewish.
it honestly makes the app much more attractive.
Not for me. The more diversity the better, plus I like many of the artists. And the worst thing is that they don't even own their own music, and have no say in the matter@@puttster7939
It didn't really hit hard, people just used different songs
Oh really? No, I've noticed a significant drop in quantity of music edits. Guess we'll just wait until the other big companies are pressed to remove their songs too. @@PeidosFTW
Oh my god!! I'm so embarrassed to be from this country!! Embarrassed, sad, demoralized...and more. The ignorance is just soul-destroying.
It's up to the youth to make a better USA, dispose of the oligarchy. Bring about democracy for the first time!
Workers rights for once! Prosperity for all!
USA this, USA that... silly pre-programmed nationalist. We need to fight for individual state's rights and stop handing everything over to the overarching BS.
USA this, USA that. Your nationalism is showing. Ferris Beuler would like to have a word about your 'ism's.
Yup.
@@libertyoverbondageI am a member of Gen Z so let me just say right now my generation isn't going to do a damn thing
Leaving a comment to say how much respect I have for your integrity, as you continue to do this work and refuse to sell out. It's a rare thing and I'm sure you know the audience appreciates it.
Your videos were the first exposure to working-class politics I had at a very confusing time in my life. Several years later, I'm happy to say I'm making a difference in my community in a socialist party. It's real, it's happening, and it's gaining momentum. Come be a part of it folks!
I literally cried at the end. I feel so sorry for you, Americans. Last year Poland managed to outvote populist criminals after 8 years of a rapid turn from democracy to authoritarianism. It happened due to a miraculous sum of factors plus record turnout of 74%. But we have many political parties which fight each other or form coalitions all the time, depending on the need, and new political parties enter parliament quite frequently. I wish you all the best!
PO is fighting tooth and nail to make life worse for the Working Poor, unbelievable that they got so much support from the Left when they were originally the ones who capitalized on the Social Democratic Workers Union Party demise in 2005🤮🤮
Thank you
If this new group in power lets in immigrants by the bus load, you picked wrong. Stop being fooled by these people.
come on, Tusk is one of the biggest neoliberal ghouls in Europe. It mean it's improvement but it isn't really something to celebrate...
the 2-party system in the US is possibly the most damaging thing that we have. it needs to be dismantled, but that won't happen without first taking money out of politics altogether. IMO, that is the only path we have to restore the intent of our republic. we need a german-style parliament...
I just discovered your channel. This is the second video I’ve watched. And I have to say… holy s***! Finally someone who’s not afraid to tell the truth. Keep up the good work!
Fantastic episode, as always. I always look forward to your exceptional insight.
The TikTok scaremongering (along with the general fears about children having cell phones) scares the crap out of me as a child abuse survivor. Limiting access to unfiltered information for everyone, especially children, is incredibly harmful. The only reason I survived my childhood is because I had clandestine access to media that my mother couldn't control. Thank you for speaking out on this so clearly and thoughtfully.
@annaphallactic There's also the genuine concern on the flip side of the issue. Children can and have gotten PTSD from access to the internet. It can harm their perception of relationships and sex. There's also the grooming issue along with extremely easy access to drugs and alcohol.
@@paranoiaproductions1221 The easiest access to drugs and alcohol is literally in your own home, thats where I got booze. Pot is now so ubiquitous you can grow it easily as a class project.
ANY media can mess you up. When I was young I saw an afternoon movie where a guy used an axe to kill somebody, they didnt even show the impact, just showed in happening and it still scars me. There were images from early on in the internet from horror movies that weren't even real but they are in my brain permanently.
Evangelicals snuck in kids to basically see a snuff film of their saviour, with blood maximized for visual effect. The WORLD will mess you up as we know from first nations. They literally say "we don't shield our children from the real world with made up fairy stories about fat men in suits or bunny rabbits". We KNOW from tons of studies that basically the stupider you are, the happier you are, but we don't really accept that unhappiness is a bad thing when its the REALITY.
This is why many schools teach media studies even to grade school, particularly in other parts of the world. Its making sure kids are messed up enough that when some stranger contacts them on the internet they dont' think "well why NOT send this stranger pictures of me naked".
@@paranoiaproductions1221 You can get PTSD from literally anything in the right context, though. Blaming the internet as our big bad social ill misses...a lot.
So much this. Every time I hear fully-grown people talk about themselves as some kind of hero for installing parental controls or locking their kids' phones away, I just think "Those poor kids are gonna feel 10x as helpless in life as I did." They don't care about protecting kids, they care about fostering dependence and preventing them from growing up to become self-sufficient.
You're not thinking about the other side of this. There is a lot of scientific evidence to show that smartphones and social media is making teenagers and young people more anxious.
Tom Cotton: "And where in China is Singapore located exactly"?
Tik Tok CEO: ..........."dude"!
People seriously think Cotton won that argument
'Elected official' is code for 'gerrymandered', so his stupidity (or cynicism, to be charitable) shouldn't floor us too much.
These are the people ruling over us
cottonhead
@@erocrush yes, and those people ate paint chips as children too
Love your videos. Keep doing the good work. I will contribute to keep this going.
I'm getting old and more and more I feel like I should have been born later or something. The 'youth' seem to be finally becoming what I was in the 90's and 80's, in far more ways I can express in a short line of text. But I was very alone.
It gives my heart some hope. :)
I've lost all my respect for these sponsors. If I was ever interested in trying one I definitely won't now. Thank you for all the information you shed light on, you're changing this generation too
For the record. I found out about the horrors of what's happening to Palestine from Twitch and youtube. Not TikTok. Many of the TT vids are also clips form media like FB, YT, Twitter/X. TYT support went up with their pro stance on Palestine being a victim of genocide.
As an elder millennial it's easy for me to get pessimistic about the future, but then I see essays like this.
100% So shines a good deed in a weary world...
as the mother of an elder millennial
I feel the same way
Diffuse the ideas of socialism and socialdemocracy as if they were a meme boyzzz
Great vid, as always. Thank you for this hard work 🤗
Very Well put together Upload. Thank you for summing up all the pieces. This not only covered the tik tok situation but How things are operating across the board.
Tolkien nerd here, the palantiri were not actually evil, they were made by the elf craftsman Feanor to facilitate communication betweem the cities of the elves and were gifted to the Numenoreans at the end of the first age and were brought from the fall of Numenor to middle earth by Elendil at the end of the second age. One of the palantiri was captured by Sauron after the fall of Minas Anor at which point it was used to spread disinformation to corrupt Saruman and cast Denethor into despair.
Just wait until Steve Mnuchin gets control of the "palantiri."
Fascinating, that ww1 veteran sure knows how to write
Lmao I like how the tolkien nerds immediately were like "hey wait" about the fictional palantirs. I had the same reaction.
So, yeah the palantiri wasn't evil in its own right, but it was used by an evil entity. The same with technology. The tech isn't evil, it's whoever or whatever is using it.
And Feanor facilitated the First Kinslaying. Just sayin.
Sorry things are a bit rough and I really so appreciate all your content and the community you helped foster in the discord. I just bumped up my tier. I want to continue seeing content from you.
The discord community is really great
Same here, bumped up the tier.
Thanks for that you do. Keep up the great work.
The quality of this video and the way it is presented is top notch 👌
Here is a new subscriber.
JT, I'm increasing my patreon from $5 to $10 a month. I'm retired and it's what I can do to help keep your valuable content "on the air." Also, regarding membership in a socialist organization, I've been a member of the IWW for over 50 years, have taken part in numerous union organizing drives, former editor of the Industrial Worker, and trying to start a general membership branch in my new community. So, yeah, like you, I hope people get out there and join a working class group of some sort, and get active - even small actions can have big outcomes.
Hello, old comrade, a single spark can start a prairie fire.
Just joined the Patreon 🙌
I just wanna thank Second Thought. This is the channel that started my deprogramming and allowed me to truly see how vile capitalism is, and how I was lied to about communism my entire life.
I’ve now been a member of both CPUSA and the IMT/Revolutionary Communist International for about a month now. I’ve attended meetings, and made it to my first actual protest and it feels amazing actually doing something for a change. If anyone else is on the fence about getting organized, I highly recommend it.
Thanks for spreading this message and allowing others to find the truth.
Keep up the great work comrade! 🚩🙏✊
P.S. This video changed my view on Tik Tok.
As a psychologist, and advocate for mental health practices such as meditation, I’ve always been opposed to Tik Tok because I believe it preys on our biology and takes a negative impact on our mental health. I still believe this, but like anything I think that if used in moderation it can be fine.
I’ve never thought about the points brought up in this video, and I now understand why I should be defending it.
Stay informed friends, just keep in mind the addictive nature of the app ❤️
Another amazing video from Second Thought. Fantastic stuff, it's such a problem that there are many more popular than this channel.
Thank you for the links, I’ve been wondering and wanting to know what I can do… though not much I’ll give up a shift to make it to meetings or whatever they do as long as it’s something I can stand behind.
Knowing there are tools makes it much easier to know where to go next.
I'm a member of the CPUSA. Thanks to you, I started working on videos.
About damn time the party makes a huge comeback! If only to give the fake Democrats a real scare and jump to the left where it belongs...
For the record. I found out about the horrors of what's happening to Palestine from Twitch and youtube. Not TikTok. Many of the TT vids are also clips form media like FB, YT, Twitter/X. TYT support went up with their pro stance on Palestine being a victim of genocide.
Shalom. Thank you for your words of support for the Jewish people who stand against Israel and your much needed condemnation of bad actors using Israeli actions as an excuse for antisemitic rhetoric Comrade
Yes, we need more Jewish voices in the fight against Zionism. They have been remarkably effective leaders in curbing settlement expansion and human rights abuses.
I have loved your videos since day one. This was BANGER!
I admire your honesty and insight. We need alternative means of news and viewpoints. We need balance to the force.
A government that fails to provide it's citizens with shelter, healthcare, and drinking water has no right to be doing this.
A system cannot fail those it was never meant to protect
@@Praisethesunson Actually its technically illegal for healthcare companies to refuse to provide services. Likewise, the UN declaration of Human Rights specifically references housing, not only did the US sign it, they mostly WROTE it. Drinking water is most definitely part of "the pursuit of happiness".
You are living in anarchy where the govenrment simply says "we don't obey the laws we make".
@monster_madeline . . . Where in the Declaration of Independence or the US Constitution does it say the government is required to "provide it's citizens with shelter, healthcare, and drinking water"? . . . . Eh, where?
Please cite the statute, law, regulation or Constitutional provision that says that. . . . . . You can't.
@@davidwang4364 Where in the constitution does it say the government has the right to close off access to public communication that people want to use? Remember the time when Thomas Jefferson said that telegraph machines all had to be closed down because 'commies might use them'.
Please cite the statut, law, regulation or constituational provision where it says that.
Any government that actively tries to cut off means of communication for its citizens has transgressed into fascist and what IT deems laws and regulations are no longer valid.
What IS more valid is the fact that besides those things the US not only SIGNED the declaration of human rights, but was one of the main COMPOSERS of it. That not only lists healthcare but HOUSING.
Hell RWANDA now has public healthcare.
@@davidwang4364 you right, it doesn't. But it absolutely should. Food, water, and shelter are all human rights. The US Constitution is backwards and barbaric, in no way should it be looked to as a moral beacon.
I don't have a big income and this is the first time I support anyone on Patreon. But your voice must not be silenced.
I thought the TikTok stuff was a tad odd, but I *never* would have thought to connect those dots. Outstanding work!!!
Wish you the best with funding your current and future projects!
@Elliminatorz. . . . How do you know HE is telling you the truth? You believe him because you WANT to believe him. Same way with Trump supporters. Trump lies every time his mouth moves, but he knows that if he say something long enough and often enough and shows his outrage, some people will believe him. Do YOU believe Trump? Do you believe this guy on the video?
Basically you need to make 2 other versions of this video: One presented by a stocky, earthy guy with a baseball cap, with a background that looks like a garage or a man cave, with an American flag somewhere, some tools and maybe a guitar, or a gun, or both.
Then you need another version presented by somebody in a more formal suit, or a formal dress, with a background that suggests serious business.
Then hopefully more people will look past the filter of "who is telling them" so prevalent in identity politics. Sad, but that's the way it is now.
@@visualthings . . . I agree. Being 80 years old I appreciate the formal environment of the age in which I grew up and being a professional most of my adult life I wore a suit and tie. When I first saw this guy in his wrinkled shirt, my first reaction was, "Who ARE you and what are your credentials . . . Why should I believe you?"
But after hearing him talk and saw the professional way he put the video together that didn't matter any more because I could tell he had substance.
I disdain the manner of dress and speaking of people under 40 today have degenerated to with the 'WTF' comments and the like. Grow up kids . . . or grandpa's gonna come beat yo butt out behind the wood shed.
How is such a huge channel, a "valuable " channel, not able to remain funded, but Mr Beast is a millionaire? What is this world?
Because Mr. Beast avoids political commentary. He is there to keep the masses entertained and distracted.
@@DiamondFlame45 Exactly, always has and always will be.
bruh, that's really and truly obvious. Mr. Beast is easily digestible, easily monetized, and doesn't knock against the status quo. No corporation wants their brand to be associated with someone who openly supports socialism.
Targeting kids with vapid nonsense is more profitable lol why surprise
@@DiamondFlame45well said
Couldn't they just ask Israel to tell the IDF to stop recording and uploading their atrocities to tiktok for everyone to see?
They will have to believe in that kind of stuff being completely normal. Anything breaking the immersion is a threat for continuing the genocide
@@timop6340 Yup. When you are a hammer everyone looks like a Nail.. Or so the Japanese phrase goes...
I hope they keep blatantly and openly uploading their monstrous acts, so proudly that people would understand something is not right about them and their fairy tale of self defense
no because then they’ll be telling the IDF that what they’re doing is something they should be ashamed of
Love the summary at the end, really good video
Power corrupts people who are not very good at moderation. No one is ever safe from centralized services and power.
I've been a socialist since my 14th year, 1980. I live in Oz, same story, 2Psrty System, we are the most compressed capital economy on the planet because it's about 4 Banks's, owned by 4 Insurance Companies, Retail is 4 Chains, but we have a functioning Social Liberal Democracy that provides health care, cheap pharmaceuticals, mainly great services provided by all 3 tiers.
I'm also a Foundational Life Member of the Australian Pirate Party Foundation. A techno-social liberal think tank (Not affiliated with PPI).
I've been following you for a short time but you've got everything at the "just right" level for non-confrontational conversation happenings - forgive an original GenX Hippie, we live a good happening) and just wanted to introduce myself and say MORE POWER TO THE PEOPLE
So maybe it's time to listen to his advice and stop supporting liberal or social liberal organizations and join a socialist (I disagree) or communist one, or even better an anarchist one?
So many terms I know nothing about, politics is really something
@@Jkjoannaki "or even better an anarchist one": No, thanks. Anarchism is even worse than cRapitalism.
@@07Flash11MRC sure sure
First Patreon subscription ever. Thank you for being so steadfast about Palestine. 💕
I really love your content. Bless you ❤
Pointedly perfect, thank you for not beating around the bush. I would recommend connecting with likeminded youtubers, if you can!!
the fact that opposing a genocide ruins sponsorship opportunities should be such a clear indicator of authoritarian regime it’s so infuriating to see
The kids are alright. Thank you for having conviction in this world!
Thank you for this insightful video. A pity that this isn't being seen by more people. Anyway, please keep up the great work!
I’ve been watching your videos since 2022 & now I live in another country bc of you. Thank you bro ❤
my brother just put this on and literally I'm so relieve that someone said what I've been thinking about the past few months so succinctly, im sharing this with all my friends
Social media is the new Printing Press, to share Ideas! Knowledge is Power!!
Gross
And power is freedom
boys twerking and LGBT woke people shouting xenophobia all over the tiktok sure is power
@@LilAbortedJesus why gross? do you like burning books?
@@somnambulist6636 Do you like burning books?
great work, man. greeting from a comrade from Brasil.
dont you love how these politicians interrupt people constantly without letting them provide context??? makes me furious.
Tiktok is a national security threat, but not their nominee who kept classified documents in a bathroom at his Florida resort. Checks out ✔️
Or has 75 undoing lawsuits
😂 excellent point.
I can't stand Trump but tbf Democrats are pushing this policy heavily as well
They have a somewhat reasonable justification that they want to regulate ALL the apps to protect our data but they can't regulate Tik Tok if it's not owned by a US company
Whether that's genuine or not idk
Lmfao
Joe had them in his garage when he had no right to them. Trump DID have a right to have them.
Lose your mind over that instead.
I really am trying to not feel contempt and utter disgust for my own country, but it gets harder and harder every day...
Same.
I’m past trying and am in the rage, fury, and contempt phase…
@@tmpnash Yeah, I have to be real and face the fact that I am, too.
@@rikorobinson it doesn’t feel very good but that’s where I am for now…
Good because I'm tired of giving your country the pass. Hi from a colony and still a colony in practice
I knew this ban was really about the vast majority of young people using it and how they congregate at this online public square. It also seems to be about money, not just influence.
It's about US gov't can't censor content on Tiktok and can't brainwash the new generation like the older generations for the last 75 years. It is "national security" because US gov't is about to lose control on its citizens. It has nothing to do with China. China is used as scapegoat by the US gov't, all the time.
Man, we're a collapsing empire that isn't even trying to save itself. Thanks again for this brilliant explanation.
I would be happy if the US was just a functional peaceful country. To hell with supporting an "Empire."
Thanks!