I listen to this every year on the Feast of St. Stephen, for which this piece was written. Being able to follow along with one of the original manuscripts was also a real treat. Thanks for the upload!
Hello! As a composition student, I would like to know if the recapitulation of the first 2 sections of the piece (Sederunt principes, et adversum me loqubantur: et iniqui persecuti sunt me) is written in the original score or if it's just a modern times interpretation! Thank you very much
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The recapitulation is mandatory by liturgic use, it's not written.
¿Quién canta? He visto alguna versión de Gilles Binchois por youtube un tono por debajo (esta, por ejemplo > th-cam.com/video/qKGuUVMy8pA/w-d-xo.html), pero no consigo encontrar referencia de esta grabación en concreto. Gracias.
a ver si estoy bien.Es polifonía,4 voces, silabica o neumatica, hay una voz que es oblicua con el resto y las otras hacen contrapunto. Diría que es de Ars antiqua pero puede que me equivoque en todo jajajaja
...skilled performance - the only historical performance note I'd add is that the polyphony would have been performed by soloists, while the chant sections would have been done by the whole choir...
...there are lots of studies on the performance of organum, but a good place to start (in my totally biased opinion) is Penelope Turner's discussion here: www.musicandpractice.org/volume-1/notre-dame-organum-duplum-modern-edition/ She makes reference to the major studies that are most available, and compares various editions as well...
...it also is sort of common sense, in that the choir would have been a mix of people who could read the newly devised notation and those who could not - those who could would have most likely been the most accomplished singers, while the standard chant would have been something nearly everyone involved would have grown up with - just my $0.02...
¡Fantástico! Léonin, Perotín, Dufay, Mauchet, Joaquin (y los demás) comensaron el movimiento Frances que afortunadamente separaron las notas musicales de cantos unidos “Gregorian Chants.” Todos éstos “pedasos de oro” son bellos recuerdos de mis estudios de música antigua.
Holà, puedes decir me dondé encontraste el manuscrit original ? Corresponde a un trabajo en esta comparar las diferentes transcripciones con el original Muchos gracias !
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This is a really good recording for being 821 years old.
1. all four voice together 2. discant sections 3. sustained tenor 4. organal style
Thx lol
I listen to this every year on the Feast of St. Stephen, for which this piece was written. Being able to follow along with one of the original manuscripts was also a real treat. Thanks for the upload!
Cette musique nous touche profondément, son grand âge n'a pas altéré sa force bien au contraire.
Brillieant in every way. As fresh today as it was in 1200.
Thank you for the thoughtful video score.
Yo estoy aqui por voluntad propia
Sederunt principes, et adversum me loquebantur:
et iniqui persecunti sunt me.
Adjuva me, Domine Deus meus:
salvum me fac propter misericordiam tuam.
The best interpretation I’ve heard yet!👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
all time favourite Weezer song for sure
Umberto Ecco brought me here.
Me too.
What book of Umberto? I would like read it.
@@gabrielquinones2684 "The name of the rose"
@@JSTurbo1309 Thanks!
same
absolute banger
On adore les cours de musique pendant le confinement :/
Wow, now I see where Steve Reich got his inspiration for _Proverb._
Yeah i certainly hear Perotin's approach in Reich's works, not only in Proverb
Hello! As a composition student, I would like to know if the recapitulation of the first 2 sections of the piece (Sederunt principes, et adversum me loqubantur: et iniqui persecuti sunt me) is written in the original score or if it's just a modern times interpretation! Thank you very much
The recapitulation is mandatory by liturgic use, it's not written.
@ thank you very much!
Minuto 1:36 podría tratarse de Hoquetus??? Aunque esa técnica es posterior...
También ocurre en el 1:49...🤨
Sí, es un hoquetus, la técnica proviene ya de estos tiempos
Excelente video
¿Quién canta? He visto alguna versión de Gilles Binchois por youtube un tono por debajo (esta, por ejemplo > th-cam.com/video/qKGuUVMy8pA/w-d-xo.html), pero no consigo encontrar referencia de esta grabación en concreto. Gracias.
obra maestra
a ver si estoy bien.Es polifonía,4 voces, silabica o neumatica, hay una voz que es oblicua con el resto y las otras hacen contrapunto. Diría que es de Ars antiqua pero puede que me equivoque en todo jajajaja
Thankyou so much
Ja tylko tutaj z powodu historii muzyki
1 like 1 sipa sa halaman ni mama
Beatiffic original notation!
...skilled performance - the only historical performance note I'd add is that the polyphony would have been performed by soloists, while the chant sections would have been done by the whole choir...
Interesting. What sources do you have?
...there are lots of studies on the performance of organum, but a good place to start (in my totally biased opinion) is Penelope Turner's discussion here:
www.musicandpractice.org/volume-1/notre-dame-organum-duplum-modern-edition/
She makes reference to the major studies that are most available, and compares various editions as well...
...it also is sort of common sense, in that the choir would have been a mix of people who could read the newly devised notation and those who could not - those who could would have most likely been the most accomplished singers, while the standard chant would have been something nearly everyone involved would have grown up with - just my $0.02...
This slaps
Excelente
Are there 4 voices?
Yes. This is indicated by the "Organum Quadruplūm", which signifies that 3 voices were added to an initial Monophonic chant.
Se parecem com as harmonias vocais do Brian Wilson
where did you get images of this manuscript?
¿Puede ser que haya uso de órgano? Por momentos me parece escucharlo.
Yo también lo oigo, creo que está apoyando al tenor, lo que es bastante lógico teniendo en cuenta las notas tan largas que lleva
Yo estoi aki por un trabajo de musica :v
A mí también me tocó hacer un trabajo, concretamente de análisis, y en particular de la sección que se inicia en el minuto 3:41.
Seh no eres el único :>
Rt
¡Fantástico!
Léonin, Perotín, Dufay, Mauchet, Joaquin (y los demás) comensaron el movimiento Frances que afortunadamente separaron las notas musicales de cantos unidos “Gregorian Chants.” Todos éstos “pedasos de oro” son bellos recuerdos de mis estudios de música antigua.
Aquí 5 años después yo también
Holà, puedes decir me dondé encontraste el manuscrit original ?
Corresponde a un trabajo en esta comparar las diferentes transcripciones con el original
Muchos gracias !
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@ muchos gracias !!!!
@@katemassein3004 I know it's a bit late but in spanish it's "Muchas gracias" ;)
El enlace lleva al Ars Nova? Buuufffff
hello, do you know whose execution is this?
David Munrow, dall'album music of the gothic era
Que instrumentos tiene?
Es una composición A Capella, por lo tanto todo lo que suena son puras voces humanas.
hä?
Who’s here for gr 10 history?
POV: Ton devoirs de Musique :
Feel your pain
Akira OST
3:42
owns
Казгик рулит
Gucci Gang is better
shut up bach
Tard
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