Extremely well documented video. You make an excellent point about safety and keeping your eyes on the road, given the location of these tiny but very cool screens. I will now think twice about adding this to my 993.
Alex, you need a Rennline phone holder that mounts behind the clock and holds the phone magnetically. Perfectly positioned for managing navigation, music, etc. without dealing with the PCR mini touch screen.
Very interesting video, I love your car and your enthusiasm and I will add a PCCM to my 911 (993) shortly. I would however say that having this unit in my car paired to my phone will make my life much better when my daughter insists on texting or calling me when I’m out for a drive, a simple hands free response of I’m sorry I’m driving will safe me pulling over all the time.
Great car and cool video. You are one of the few on TH-cam who mastered background music. Especially when you enter the workshop. Nice music, good volume 🙌
I disagree on the maps as with Apple CarPlay you don’t really even need to look at the screen because all you do is listen for the voice prompts “in 400 metres, turn left onto Smith Street”. I think the head unit pros outweigh the cons. I’ve watched your video and still ordered one for my 944 and 968. Great speaker install job.
Great video and good point on the Navi being completely useless! Awesome looking car and kudos for keeping with the original speaker design and trying to stay authentic with the mods. Thank you!
I was considering getting this unit for my '89 Carrera 3.2 to replace its original Blaupunkt radio (no gap in my dash haha). But after watching your video, I don't think it makes much sense. Maybe just better to stick my phone on the windshield if need be to navigate myself, and use the engine as my radio! Great video Alex, and thank you for the brilliant advice and sincerity!
Originality is king. The replacement radio is great but had the original been in the dash, I would have stuck with that. A period correct cassette deck is unbeatable!
I highly recommend the Blaupunkt Bremen SQR 46. It has Bluetooth, USB, AUX, and an SD card reader. Looks like their original Bremen SQR 45 but without a tape deck
That’s a really good bit of advise on fiddling with your audio system when you drive. Never quite thought about it in that way. Though frankly, I too switch off audio and often air conditioner and just enjoy driving these cars.
Great video and sick coco mats. I think one of the biggest plusses of these units is the ability to put on navigation through the speakers. I take mine on road trips and one of the biggest gripes is not being able to have google maps read me directions loud and clear. The music and the car play and the maps, eh could take it or leave it.
Wow! This video is super well done, thanks! The end result is 100% class and the spirit of staying period correct while enjoying some perks of modern tech. Made me laugh with your comment on the map feature. Wish they had a version that provided a screen that came out when turned on and recessed when turned off. I have subscribed your channel. Love it. My '88 930 is in dire need of a new radio. Keep up the good work! P.S. Love your color combo! Gorgeous!
Nice unit, and does fit perfectly on the car, I just installed the same unit today on my Carrera 3.2 Cabriolet from 1987...a car imported to Belgium from San Francisco USA...now I will just drive the car ...to the south of France in june.
The radio install looks good. I just got a 993 with an aftermarket radio installed, but it came with the original. The aftermarket radio's light show on starts up seems pretty out of place. Hopefully the sound is good on your new setup...and love the floor mats :) Cheers
Alex - nice video! Tastefully done as usual - I’m an ROW ‘88 3.2 Carrera owner - recently imported it from Sweden - thinking about a Porsche Classic radio as well - may ask what amplifier you also installed as that finishes the install appropriately
Thank you!! 88 is such a great year for these cars! I run an Alpine MRV-F300 4 channel amp I have discreetly hidden in front of the smugglers box in the frunk. It’s very small, and packs all the power you need to get awesome sound in the cabin!
Hi, I don’t know much about retro cars but I grown really fond of the Porsche 911 1980 turbo s, is it possible to have a separate display for lApple car play installed? Rather than a small display
Good review. The screen is ''useless'', but on the other hand, so long it's got the voice talking to you that's 90% of the job done. I normally have my phone next to me down by the gear lever and if there is a complicated junction ahead or quick series of instructions a 1 second glance is normally enough to understand what's happening (not sure how it is in the States, but in Europe the google lady often goes on -at length- about which turn offs to take and has a habit of giving the full name of whichever road you're supposed to take, even on highways. Sometimes these names are so long, by the time she's finished you're WAY passed, lol). How is the interaction with spotify? Though I guess it's controllable via phone as well and you just hit whichever playlist suits anyways...
@@AlexBeras Haha. In any case it's a very elegant solution, slightly flawed maybe. That said I'm genuinely surprised that practically all single dins follow the same concept, quite busy...no ''classic'' style with modern features.
It had Apple car play right? And are the apps usable? (apart from being very small). I'm thinking about for example waze (social navigation app). I saw one short video where they didn't focus on the user interface, but they showed a very short clip, and it looked EXTREMELY slow (aka car navigator from 2003 or something), but maybe that was just during some startup? Is that something you have noticed?
Mine is the Gen 1 version. Gen 2 which is the current classic radio for sale now has CarPlay. For what I need mine for, I knew I wouldn’t need CarPlay , but for streaming Bluetooth: in this capacity, it works good enough! 😂
Hi Alex. Thank you for such a great video. I'm considering purchasing this radio for the exact same reasons you did. I really would like to know, how well does it pair with an iPhone? Does it recognize it automatically and all is good? Or is it a chore to get it together? I was thinking I would forgo even having the gps antenna installed as well as the usb ports on the shift tunnel. Thank you again for such a nice video!
It was my pleasure to share. It all comes together quite seamlessly. The more I live with it, the more glad I am that I picked this over any other unit available in the marketplace. Pairs very easily to the iPhone just like any factory system would and should. The USB ports do come in handy for charging. It’s not the most visibly satisfying addition, but it does work well.
Hi Alex, I own a 2005 Boxster S. My car is in the perfect shape and this is the only thing that seems to be missing. Can u suggest on how I can go about finding a new Porsche original infotainment system for my model and how much it would cost me ?
You can actually get a Porsche Classic Radio Double-Din with Apple CarPlay. It’s a factory original part that looks incredible in person! I would try Rennlist first to see if anyone has units for sale, or even on a group buy- or just go the dealership route which isn’t bad either!
I think you are able to on some of the newer classic radios, but since this was the first version without CarPlay, i think the standard orange color remains
The only time I listen to the sound system in my 911, is when I am parked with the motor off, when I am driving, I listen to the sound system of the flat six.
I heard you say there were cracks in your dash, do you have any before and after shots from what they did? My porsche has small dash cracks might look into getting them fixed.
Unfortunately I don’t have any pictures of the cracks from before. It was a quarter length small crack that was addressed with industrial grade filler, and blended in with navy colored airbrushing which makes it undetectable. I was really happy with the results. A better solution would be recovering the entire dash in stitched leather but the crack was small enough to address with a touch up.
They spent a few hours on it, and their shop rate is between 120-150 an hour which is standard in NY. But I added in new speakers, for the doors in the factory locations, and they added in an amplifier to add extra umph and clarity to the sound. I can’t remember what I paid, but it was worth it. All in, with new wiring, it was just north of $1000- which was fair two years ago. Prices change so I’m not sure what it would cost now. I wanted it done right by the right guys who don’t make compromises so I don’t have to do the work twice.
Hey Alex, I have an older Merc with a single DIN stereo, & have been looking for this exact "filler". Does it also support ANDROID AUTO? Am certain this doesn't only fit Porsche, I hope. Thanks
It’s labeled Porsche. And a Porsche prompt comes up when you turn it on. Blaupunkt SQR Bluetooth would be my pick for any retro radio, but I’d look on BeckerAutoSound.com
I didn’t do a sub, (keep weight down) but I did do Alpine R-model component speakers. Alpine 6-channel R series amplifier. Rear speakers/ front components all integrated. Great low range, great mid, and very clear highs. Sounds comparable to a new Burmeister system in a fully loaded Panamera.
Great noticing! So this is the first version of the Classic Radio. When Apple CarPlay become more mainstream, the .2 version was released shortly after- which is the one currently in circulation at dealerships. For my needs, this is a huge upgrade, because what lived in that space before was a neon fixture that didn’t blend into the original Porsche dashboard design.
The new PCCM+ has temporarily being withdrawn by Porsche due to a software issue, that's what my Porsche dealership told me when i tried to order the mk2 version with DAB & Carplay 😦
If you don't use it, i don't see the point of replacing the "real" Blaupunkt. I agree to stay away from the screen when you're driving on twisting roads, though
If the car came with the original radio, I would have left it alone, but having lived with it for over a year, I actually love its capability. I love knowing I have modern conveniences at my fingertips.
@@AlexBeras I have my music on my phone, mp3 player and ipod. iPods and Mp3s are really just devices with sd cards. I would like to be able to use use either an sd card, mp3 or ipod, no success. I can stream from my phone on bluetooth. If you have an sd, mp3 or iPod, can you give it a try. $1300 is a lot of money for a device that deliver all the features that it suppose to have.
Extremely well documented video. You make an excellent point about safety and keeping your eyes on the road, given the location of these tiny but very cool screens. I will now think twice about adding this to my 993.
Great point on the SatNav not really being that useful, I hadn't thought about that
Yeah. Sometimes I just turn it off and drive.
love how much that guy vibed with what you wanted and hit it out the park.
I have a 964. Just did an engine rebuild, new clutch, new brakes and discs. This radio would be a welcomed addition. Thanks!
Thanks for posting. I had one installed in my 964 this week.
Congrats!! Such a great system!
Alex, you need a Rennline phone holder that mounts behind the clock and holds the phone magnetically. Perfectly positioned for managing navigation, music, etc. without dealing with the PCR mini touch screen.
I’m going to look into it! Thank you for the suggestion!
@@AlexBeras Please post an updated set up to work with your phone and navigational. thanks.
@@jericofernando2445 yes!! Will do!
That's my plan too,the phone holder is a clever design perfect for my 964 👌
Damn, man you’re living my dream ! A Carrera 3.2 with a nice sound system. That’s what I hoping to achieve someday 🙏🏽
Truly appreciated!! Thank you!
Very interesting video, I love your car and your enthusiasm and I will add a PCCM to my 911 (993) shortly.
I would however say that having this unit in my car paired to my phone will make my life much better when my daughter insists on texting or calling me when I’m out for a drive, a simple hands free response of I’m sorry I’m driving will safe me pulling over all the time.
Great car and cool video. You are one of the few on TH-cam who mastered background music. Especially when you enter the workshop. Nice music, good volume 🙌
Thank you!!! That edit took a while too, I’m glad you noticed it and appreciated it!
I disagree on the maps as with Apple CarPlay you don’t really even need to look at the screen because all you do is listen for the voice prompts “in 400 metres, turn left onto Smith Street”. I think the head unit pros outweigh the cons. I’ve watched your video and still ordered one for my 944 and 968. Great speaker install job.
You’re right about pro’s outweighing the cons! I would order it again without hesitation.
Great video and good point on the Navi being completely useless! Awesome looking car and kudos for keeping with the original speaker design and trying to stay authentic with the mods. Thank you!
I was considering getting this unit for my '89 Carrera 3.2 to replace its original Blaupunkt radio (no gap in my dash haha). But after watching your video, I don't think it makes much sense. Maybe just better to stick my phone on the windshield if need be to navigate myself, and use the engine as my radio! Great video Alex, and thank you for the brilliant advice and sincerity!
Originality is king. The replacement radio is great but had the original been in the dash, I would have stuck with that. A period correct cassette deck is unbeatable!
I highly recommend the Blaupunkt Bremen SQR 46. It has Bluetooth, USB, AUX, and an SD card reader. Looks like their original Bremen SQR 45 but without a tape deck
That’s a really good bit of advise on fiddling with your audio system when you drive. Never quite thought about it in that way. Though frankly, I too switch off audio and often air conditioner and just enjoy driving these cars.
Exactly!! Just enjoy the drive!
Great video and sick coco mats. I think one of the biggest plusses of these units is the ability to put on navigation through the speakers. I take mine on road trips and one of the biggest gripes is not being able to have google maps read me directions loud and clear. The music and the car play and the maps, eh could take it or leave it.
Wow! This video is super well done, thanks! The end result is 100% class and the spirit of staying period correct while enjoying some perks of modern tech. Made me laugh with your comment on the map feature. Wish they had a version that provided a screen that came out when turned on and recessed when turned off. I have subscribed your channel. Love it. My '88 930 is in dire need of a new radio. Keep up the good work! P.S. Love your color combo! Gorgeous!
Thank you!!
You really understood, what Porsche means. Best regards from Germany, Hamburg
Thank you!! Truly appreciated
Nice unit, and does fit perfectly on the car, I just installed the same unit today on my Carrera 3.2 Cabriolet from 1987...a car imported to Belgium from San Francisco USA...now I will just drive the car ...to the south of France in june.
It really does fit perfectly. It is the best solution and when it’s turned off, it looks like it came with the car!
Soo good to see that this beautiful car in a really great shape and great owner love from India ❤️❤️❤️
Thank you! Thank you!
The radio install looks good. I just got a 993 with an aftermarket radio installed, but it came with the original. The aftermarket radio's light show on starts up seems pretty out of place. Hopefully the sound is good on your new setup...and love the floor mats :) Cheers
Thank you! Yes the sound quality is amazing on the new setup! Congrats on the 993!!
“If I look down once I’m done” 🤣🤣🤣
😂🤣😂
You have great taste in cars, maybe you can do a video on that nice Volvo p1800 that was sitting in the shop.
the navigation haha, but still looking good
The navigation screen is laughable, but yes, it does look pretty good!
Alex - nice video! Tastefully done as usual - I’m an ROW ‘88 3.2 Carrera owner - recently imported it from Sweden - thinking about a Porsche Classic radio as well - may ask what amplifier you also installed as that finishes the install appropriately
Thank you!! 88 is such a great year for these cars! I run an Alpine MRV-F300 4 channel amp I have discreetly hidden in front of the smugglers box in the frunk. It’s very small, and packs all the power you need to get awesome sound in the cabin!
cool radio! i have a replacement on my 993 as well. This is the upgrade I need!
Thanks buddy! This and the new Blaupunkt Bremen SQR look amazing in our cars!
The most expensive gap filler LOL
Was thinking abt this one too but thanks to your vid i think I’ll go with the new Blaupunkt Bremen which is the 3rd of the PCA price. Thanks a lot
You can’t go wrong either way! Both solid units with modern technology!! Best of luck!
Hi, I don’t know much about retro cars but I grown really fond of the Porsche 911 1980 turbo s, is it possible to have a separate display for lApple car play installed? Rather than a small display
The newest version of the classic radio indeed has the Apple CarPlay feature!! It works incredibly well!
Looks Factory do the Nav direction come through the speakers OK 🤔
I'm getting the PCCM+ for my 964 once the software issues are resolved 🙏
They do! I tried it only once, & I hardly have used it since.
great vid. I was on the fence. mind made up. will seek other options. ty
The Blaupunkt SQR 46DAB option is also really good. Factory correct appearance. And it can speak directly to the Certificate of Authenticity!
@@AlexBeras thank you I saw that one. the other that i'm considering is the retrosound grand prix. period correct, BT stream with HF calling. cheers
Love the background music.
Love the 911 and the new radio, miss the RRC.
Thank you! I love the 911! I miss the RRC too. After I shipped off to the next owner, my reaction was: what did I just do?
Good review. The screen is ''useless'', but on the other hand, so long it's got the voice talking to you that's 90% of the job done. I normally have my phone next to me down by the gear lever and if there is a complicated junction ahead or quick series of instructions a 1 second glance is normally enough to understand what's happening (not sure how it is in the States, but in Europe the google lady often goes on -at length- about which turn offs to take and has a habit of giving the full name of whichever road you're supposed to take, even on highways. Sometimes these names are so long, by the time she's finished you're WAY passed, lol).
How is the interaction with spotify? Though I guess it's controllable via phone as well and you just hit whichever playlist suits anyways...
That’s exactly it! You definitely depend on the voice for instructions! 😂
@@AlexBeras Haha. In any case it's a very elegant solution, slightly flawed maybe. That said I'm genuinely surprised that practically all single dins follow the same concept, quite busy...no ''classic'' style with modern features.
I just bought the same thing today for my 85 Carrera.
You’re going to love it!
Far better than the old but still original Blaupunkt Hamburg wich is currently and ever since imstalled.
It had Apple car play right? And are the apps usable? (apart from being very small). I'm thinking about for example waze (social navigation app).
I saw one short video where they didn't focus on the user interface, but they showed a very short clip, and it looked EXTREMELY slow (aka car navigator from 2003 or something), but maybe that was just during some startup? Is that something you have noticed?
Mine is the Gen 1 version. Gen 2 which is the current classic radio for sale now has CarPlay. For what I need mine for, I knew I wouldn’t need CarPlay , but for streaming Bluetooth: in this capacity, it works good enough! 😂
Hi Alex. Thank you for such a great video. I'm considering purchasing this radio for the exact same reasons you did. I really would like to know, how well does it pair with an iPhone? Does it recognize it automatically and all is good? Or is it a chore to get it together? I was thinking I would forgo even having the gps antenna installed as well as the usb ports on the shift tunnel. Thank you again for such a nice video!
It was my pleasure to share. It all comes together quite seamlessly. The more I live with it, the more glad I am that I picked this over any other unit available in the marketplace. Pairs very easily to the iPhone just like any factory system would and should. The USB ports do come in handy for charging. It’s not the most visibly satisfying addition, but it does work well.
Hi Alex, I own a 2005 Boxster S. My car is in the perfect shape and this is the only thing that seems to be missing. Can u suggest on how I can go about finding a new Porsche original infotainment system for my model and how much it would cost me ?
You can actually get a Porsche Classic Radio Double-Din with Apple CarPlay. It’s a factory original part that looks incredible in person! I would try Rennlist first to see if anyone has units for sale, or even on a group buy- or just go the dealership route which isn’t bad either!
nice video
Does it come with orange light on the buttons because i have seem white as well. Are you able to switch the color?
I think you are able to on some of the newer classic radios, but since this was the first version without CarPlay, i think the standard orange color remains
The only time I listen to the sound system in my 911, is when I am parked with the motor off, when I am driving, I listen to the sound system of the flat six.
You’re right! The motor is a sound system on its own! 😂
Great job what speakers did you put in the back
JBL 4x6 speakers only so it fits below the factory grills. 6x9’s would have been awesome, but I wanted all to be stealth and factory look
I heard you say there were cracks in your dash, do you have any before and after shots from what they did? My porsche has small dash cracks might look into getting them fixed.
Unfortunately I don’t have any pictures of the cracks from before. It was a quarter length small crack that was addressed with industrial grade filler, and blended in with navy colored airbrushing which makes it undetectable. I was really happy with the results. A better solution would be recovering the entire dash in stitched leather but the crack was small enough to address with a touch up.
@@AlexBeras thanks for the info! yeah I've heard taking the dash out is a real pain, at least on my 944 I'm not sure about the 911
Hi Alex, how much does installation go for? Thanks
They spent a few hours on it, and their shop rate is between 120-150 an hour which is standard in NY. But I added in new speakers, for the doors in the factory locations, and they added in an amplifier to add extra umph and clarity to the sound. I can’t remember what I paid, but it was worth it. All in, with new wiring, it was just north of $1000- which was fair two years ago. Prices change so I’m not sure what it would cost now. I wanted it done right by the right guys who don’t make compromises so I don’t have to do the work twice.
Hey Alex, I have an older Merc with a single DIN stereo, & have been looking for this exact "filler". Does it also support ANDROID AUTO? Am certain this doesn't only fit Porsche, I hope. Thanks
It’s labeled Porsche. And a Porsche prompt comes up when you turn it on. Blaupunkt SQR Bluetooth would be my pick for any retro radio, but I’d look on BeckerAutoSound.com
What amp and speakers did you use? Sub?
I didn’t do a sub, (keep weight down) but I did do Alpine R-model component speakers. Alpine 6-channel R series amplifier. Rear speakers/ front components all integrated. Great low range, great mid, and very clear highs. Sounds comparable to a new Burmeister system in a fully loaded Panamera.
Where the apple car play?
Great noticing! So this is the first version of the Classic Radio. When Apple CarPlay become more mainstream, the .2 version was released shortly after- which is the one currently in circulation at dealerships. For my needs, this is a huge upgrade, because what lived in that space before was a neon fixture that didn’t blend into the original Porsche dashboard design.
The new PCCM+ has temporarily being withdrawn by Porsche due to a software issue, that's what my Porsche dealership told me when i tried to order the mk2 version with DAB & Carplay 😦
If you don't use it, i don't see the point of replacing the "real" Blaupunkt.
I agree to stay away from the screen when you're driving on twisting roads, though
If the car came with the original radio, I would have left it alone, but having lived with it for over a year, I actually love its capability. I love knowing I have modern conveniences at my fingertips.
Awesome gap filler 😎👍
😂 thank you! Haha
What year is this car?
1988!
Are you able to play music from a micro sd card?
Great question, I've never tried it!
@@AlexBeras I have my music on my phone, mp3 player and ipod. iPods and Mp3s are really just devices with sd cards. I would like to be able to use use either an sd card, mp3 or ipod, no success. I can stream from my phone on bluetooth. If you have an sd, mp3 or iPod, can you give it a try. $1300 is a lot of money for a device that deliver all the features that it suppose to have.
are you able to dim the pccm?
Great question! That I’m still not sure about! I will do a little research.
@@AlexBeras sounds good. I'm wiring mine up now and the pinout is missing an "illumination" pin, i feel like this is something they may have missed
Unit is too damn expensive
It is. I was lucky to buy it after one of my friends purchased it and then didn’t use it. Despite price, I do love it.