First Time Stranded At A Tesla Supercharger! Final Leg Of The Model 3 Trip Back From Florida
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Kyle and Alyssa complete their road trip from Titusville, FL back to Fort Collins, CO in this video. A ton of cute baby Walter content provided in this video. If you missed Part 1 the link is attacked below:
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I really miss these road trips on the Model 3. It's why I subscribed and hope you guys can film more of these.
Yeah, me too. I envy these guys. Roadtripping as a job. :D
100% Agree
You have to plan it like an IFR flight plan destination plus alternate. I always do that and that saved me one time already.
You mean people are actually learning to navigate?😁
Considering how many thousands of miles you've driven a Tesla, it's actually kinda impressive that's the first time you experienced a failure. But I agree, they should install a small battery backup for anyone caught out in those few minutes between the grid going offline and the map updating.
The thing is it is not the supercharge at fault. It is main grid.
It was a gird failure, not to mention they were never stranded.
That supercharger being off-line Wasn’t Tesla’s fault. Because the power company up there had an outage so it wouldn’t be their fault
👍I’m a conservative road tripper. When I arrive my state of charge is around 25-30% much like with my old ICE car 1/4 of a tank.✌️😊
@@brianmartin3263 me too.
I try for 20 percent...
In my gas car I get anxious below a quarter of a tank..
Gas gauges are not the most accurate things..
On a different note, I trained my puppy to love elevators by tossing in a few treats into the elevator first. My pup went in and the doors closed while she was looking for the last treat. Worked every time
That's cheating!
Kyle, Consider getting a window shade for your windshield. It is super nice to help reduce A/C load and keep car cool on hot road trips like this one.
UNFAIR!! Didn't close with Walter's introduction to Ellie and Blue.
Pet mode never seemed so important now.
EVENEX needs a REAR vent tube to Animal carriers.
the generators for the pumps are probably a lot smaller then what you would need for a charger.
Superchargers , use ZERO Generators .
they have MEGAPACKS that store 4.5Mw each.
@@markplott4820 Not all of them. Not the one in this video.
@@markplott4820 That's only true if they have gotten around to installing them. I have seen zero mega-packs.
Oh, Walter is outrageously cute!!! Happy you all made it back.
These road trips do help people like me, been following the EV story but have not purchase one yet. Leaning toward a Tesla over the other EVs just because every road trip I viewed, Tesla vs non-tesla, right now tesla has the edge, Another option might be to hold off to see when the other EV company move to NCAS but the question is do I want to wait. Thanks again Keep these trip going. They are fun to see and very informational.
Buy a Tesla.
Im in the same boat, but overall just not convinced. I think for living and working in/around a city EV is fine, esp if you can charge at home. However for someone that travels often like myself, EV's just not there yet. Having to stop for 30-45 mins every 80-125 miles is just a bit absurd and thats assuming chargers work properly and there's a spot (something I see becoming more and more of an issue as more EVs on road). In contrast my current car can go 400+ miles on a tank and can refill tank in
Love these road trip videos, keep em coming! The dogs are a welcome addition too!
can confirm, trip planner still does randomly show way out of control arrival percentages that are impossible to achieve (120 miles on 11%? never). also the "charge at 70% up to 100% to make it to your destination with 28%" even though there are plenty of other chargers along the way is annoying. it used to be set the destination and forget it but now you HAVE to manage your own charging stops if you do not want to waste time charging for 45 minutes at each stop. still fun to me though.
I hear you there. Road trips I rely on consumption data from previous trips and now do my own math. to decide when to unplug.
To be fair, it takes a lot less power to pump gas than it does to charge cars. An entirely different amount of generation. Always enjoy these road trip videos, I learn a lot.
Stranded!? You just drove to the next supercharger and no mention of grid failure in the clickbait title.
Walter waddle is adorable.
Sonic burgers and shakes are usually awesome. Sorry to hear the chicken fingers sucked.
I will say, you’ve seen the size of the generators needed to run those fast chargers lol it might require 50kw to run that gas station. It could be 10X that or more to run all those chargers.
It's just terrible to see how Superchargers are always just basking in the sun (or are in rain) while gas pumps are nicely covered and shaded. Then you overheat and derate charging, bringing down efficiency for the whole station. Cheapening out on the wrong end there.
You would think by now Tesla would cover their superchargers with some kind of roofing/canopy (with solar panels on top)
The overhead covering over gas stations is actually permitted for fire suppression reasons. It would otherwise be against code in most locations. CPO's are now having to work through all of that permitting and applying for other loop holes as they do not have fire suppression routed to flood pumps from above.
Have you been to Quartzsite, AZ?
@20:57 Makes me think of a guy named Dave who's always pushing his car down to single digit charging state on the legs of his trips. You might know him. Maybe you should make sure he watches this video.
Yeah, he kinda looks like Kyle, too. I wonder if they are related or not 🤣
Stuff like this is why I would never let my Tesla get down below 20%. I've only had my Tesla less than two months but I guess this could happen anywhere.
3 years in, and I use 15% as my target arrival rate. But I run with miles, not percent. If I know it's 60 miles to the next charger, I make sure I have, oh, 80 miles in the can. If the system says I have charged enough to get to the next stop, I wait 5 mins JFTHOI. Yes, I wear suspenders and a belt😂!
@@The_DuMont_Network What works, works. I only used 20% because I was new to electric cars.
I think that it is better for the battery not to run it below 20% very often. I have heard to run it between 20% and 80% for best battery life.@@tedmoss
This video just popped up again and it's wild to see how little Walter was a few weeks ago.
Look its a Chrysler aspen hybrid ive been trying to find these for years! Alyssa: why? Hahahhaha i love these guys
The bottom line is there's enough superchargers that if you run into a problem there's usually another set of superchargers close by. Also, you were not stranded...you had 12% left. And it was not Tesla's fault that the grid was offline. Can you imagine how much it would cost if they had a backup for EVERY set of superchargers out there? I travelled extensively across the country in my M3P and NOT ONCE did I encounter a non-functioning supercharger. Nuff said.
Calm down 😅goin too hard we get it , you disagree ✌🏾😌
Another supercharger available if you’re on the interstate system. However, traveling anywhere away from the interstate or a prominent city, you’re pretty much out of luck.
Well there is always the first time. Mega-packs and solar power will eventually make electricity cheaper.
@@CS-gg5hx Well I avoid the Interstate and have no problem, even going across the Indian reservation. (About 175 miles between chargers). I do limit my speed to 75 MPH. But I am driving a Tesla. I recommend them.
When dealing with high heat, would sunshades help with cabin cooling and thus battery cooling?
YES , I use THERMAL sun shades. it also helps IF Supercharger has a SOLAR canopy to Park under while Supercharging.
@@markplott4820 You got a link to a good set of shades?
Have y'all had the coolant valve replaced yet?
I'm so confused......what happened to Anna?!?!
Bag Anna, We want ALYSSA forever!
Running the battery down to 1% frequently seems like a bad battery protection plan anyway, not to mention guaranteed range anxiety.
Not if you know what you're doing.
❤️ Walter 🥰
The blue coconut slush with ice-cream is excellent.
Aww I was hoping that Walter would meet the other doggies in this video. Glad the car is lasting
Kansas City, Grinders pizza (Stonewall) has a destination charger for free. Great place to relax for an hour, eat, watch sports and enjoy a beer...while you get some free miles. 👌🏻 There's an outdoor seating area, and I would think they will allow a dog, but IDK.
I mean... Alyssa wanted a harder experience charging at superchargers didn't she?
No she didn't she said that its annoying that charging a tesla is so easy and that everyone should have the easy experience
What wheels are on the M3? And are they 18's?
Is the A/C not cooling the interior when it's hot outside a Telsa issue or electric car issue? I live in Houston and proper functioning A/C is a must in the summertime, for any vehicle.
If the gas station has a generator you could use the mobile connector on a power plug to gain a buffer rather sit an hour plugged in than 200 feet from a charger
I carry a 20ft cable.
Idk why you would turn the AC on high 24:40 when you need the cooling for the battery unless you like just sitting at a charger doing nothing
It takes more energy to cool the cabin back down than if you keep the AC on while plugged into the charger. Usually.
Bedankt
It would help to fix your car. I drove my model YLR 1860 miles from Phoenix to Windsor, Co and back with a road work detour and through the Indian reservation with absolutely no problems and it was hotter than where you are at the time. I did limit my speed to 75 MPH.
"I've been trying to find one of these things, Alyssa, for *years*."
"Why?"
"Because they're so cool!"
"..."
We are all still wondering why. 🤣
I would always leave some buffer. Worst case, you can find an RV Park or maybe a business that has a 220 outlet that would let you charge. Especially traveling on rural routes.
why, TESLA has a 10+ mile buffer anyways , TESLA can unlock it.
@@markplott4820 Why would you have to "unlock" it?
Wouldn't a windshield sun shade help lower the load on the a/c?
That happened to my Model 3. It was a $1800 fix. $200 diagnostics They replaced the compressor and coolant first but still had the problem so then they replaced the valve for another $800. I just missed the extended warranty by 6k miles because I drive too much. I would have bought it in a heartbeat.
2.8k for an AC system pump and valve repair.? How many k miles you got on your tesla? Well, tesla is not cheap, to own.
You got robbed.
Tad mellow dramatic… plenty of juice to motor on…gotta love the Tesla charging network.
If the grid went out does that mean that gas pumps weren’t working either?
Who gets chicken tenders at Sonic? The foot-long chili cheese coney dog or the burgers are the stars of the show.
Applaud Sonic for getting on the S/C bandwagon. Too bad their food sucks. Good chili dogs are my faves. Their weiners really are low quality, tasteless, cheese is chemical goo. Cherry Limeade is just Sprite with cherry flavoring. They once were good, but now not so much.
Their food is just so-so but I do really like their ice cream.
Where was your electricity produced? How was the materials for your car? Mind extremely hard on the environment. You are correct in saying the cars are interesting and fascinating to drive but environmentally they are not that good
@MrWessed
Bingo. I noticed that Kyle will ban your comments from being posted unless you are only responding to an existing comment such as yours.
Keep in mind, it takes more power to fast charge a single electric car, than it does to power that whole gas station, including fuel pumps! The generator would not have enough power for any more than level 2 charging for one, maybe two EV's.
Walter is so freaking cute!
I’m sorry I’m new with tesla but winter is coming and I will need some advise can I put same size tires but diferent brand. It’s ok?
What breed is your puppy? He is adorable. Thanks.
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Don't be fooled. Alyssa is the real brains of this operation.
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I've seen some of the other cross-country 'race' videos where they obviously try to min/max their EV charging route planning and routinely pull into chargers with 1-3% charge left. I'm assuming Kyle likes to use the same strategy on casual roadtrips as some sort of game. There should be a huge disclaimer on videos like this that state to EV owners that you should NOT route plan like this. There are just too many variables like inaccurate range estimates, traffic jams, bad weather, etc... that noone should be route-planning charger arrivals to the point you pull in with such low SOC numbers merely to try to shave time off your trip. When they pulled into that dead supercharger station, I think it was sheer luck that they had 12% SOC left to get to the next supercharger. Had Kyle pulled into that dead station with his typical 1-5%, they would have been screwed.
You can charge at any CCS charger or destination charger within range. There’s always something.
It only took 7% to get to the next SuC so they wouldn’t need much.
well, you ended up not being stranded after all. Nice video.
Walter, it looks like you are wearing a tuxedo.
How do you know I'm not.
Thats a beautiful dog
Great video. Can you comment on life w/ the white seats for dog owners? How easy are they to keep clean? Do they really stay white after a few years gave gone by ir are they basically light brown 😮😀
the CREAM Tesla seats are Better.
@@markplott4820 only on S+X though 😕
3 years white seats. Dogs, kids, sometimes boxes. Still white. But no one wears jeans. I hear they will print blue, but it comes off with Mr. Clean sponge.
Come on. Denver gets it's sundown summer thunderstorm on a regular basis.
This is a great example of why BEV sales have tanked in the U.S. They R not practical for those who do not have all day to plan their lives around the needs of their Car.
You are too nice Kyle. Most people would make them turn the damage into their insurance. Jordan, max and dom cost you a bundle. I had i tire come off a truck and dent my leaf door and it cost 3000 just for a small dent and labor and parts. Francie is the best . She drove your rivian 2000 miles and you reported no damage.
Try paintless dent repair.
SpaceX Shuttle? OH MAN
Maybe they need to have Solar and batteries
Lucky dog.
Use the solar panels !!
24:28 those were the fog lights not the headlights that were on.. 🥲
Im not much for sonic.
CCS charger availability is 10 times worse., especially Electrify America. That is why I am getting rid of my VW ID 4 and going hybrid
Don't try to be half pregnant. Pissing away money lugging a gas engine and the rest of the impedimenta makes no sense. Just a little planning and a little bit more conservative thougt and he would not have had the angst. I had a similar situation once but my arrival target is 30-40 miles. I always look one stop ahead. Same as I did driving gassers.
@@The_DuMont_Network for many of us, PHEVs are perfect
565 miles between my two homes. I stop once 10 mins in my Tacoma. Starting from Palm Springs in the summer and driving up through the San Joaquin Valley it's gonna be 100 plus the whole way until I get to the Bay area. How many stops and for how long in an EV? Seem like simple questions, but I've never really gotten a straight answer. I don't need fancy gadgets. I need a car that gets from point A to B without fuss. Actually a truck, to be honest. Only one option, a Cybertruck, because non-Tesla charging is a complete (unfunny) joke. I'm not against the Cybertruck. I don't have to look at it while I'm in it. Finally a release date, but still no specs or prices. Can you see why people are not just jumping on the EV bandwagon? And I'm a real tech guy. In fact, that's probably why I don't own one yet. Tech evolves. I had plasma commercial flat panel displays hooked up to my mac and was streaming crap quality content long before steaming was a thing. The current (ha, ha) EV tech reminds me of that. But I could still watch regular TV too. In contrast (can't stop me), if I buy an EV, I'm kinda all in. So for now, you can drive around in your plasma TVs. I'll wait until OLED at least before I buy one.
Use A Better Route Planner to see how many stops you would need in an EV.
@43:02 Walter the puppy is beautiful!
“That shows where their priorities are” Yes, priorities are with 95% of the traveling public and trucks carrying our daily needs. Such selfish people to put us EV owners to the side. You can power a lot of fuel pumps off one EV charge. It’s stuff like this that only fuels the argument against EV. Another reason to leave charge and not push it to below 15-20%. It never makes sense to run it 2%.
Im sorry but Tesla is not the only auto maker out there. I am proud owner of the FORD MUSTANG MACH E
The guy in this video is a big cry baby oh I'm stranded
🤣😂😁😆🙃😉😊
Great video
You can thank climate change for your weird weather and it'll just get weirder. Lucky you didn't do your 0% arrival as you usually do to the charger that had no power or you'd have been stuck until it came back on, either that or get towed to the next Supercharger. Doubt any trip planner can know about localised conditions when it comes to wind speeds/rain/road conditions just something the driver may need to factor in but doesn't sound like need to drive to the conditions rather than just race at 85mph the entire way.
Darn, got me with clickbait. A grid problem is not even remotely a "failed Tesla Supercharger."
@wilh4339
It is when the fuel pumps were working for customers with ICEs. lol
Kansas is very neglected
Apparently Teslas aren't perfect. Who have thought.
OMG!! Walter is sooo cute! And already a BIG BOY! 😆
Fun as always to watch your road trip videos. Glad you all made it home!
What are you going to do when Walter is 250 Lbs like my father Walter was?😁😁
I am so glad someone else is bringing to light the massive issue with the Tesla route planner. Back in the day this was an absolute game changing staple. It was dead accurate and I would always hit my %. This last trip I did, I had the same issues as you. It said I would have 18% if I left, yet when I arrived at the next charger I was stretching it to arrive with 3%
Has this been addressed or fixed? It’s a serious issue coming into the winter months.
Arrival SoC predictions can vary quite a bit depending on road and weather conditions, and of course your speed. Mine are usually fairly accurate. Off by only a few percent at most from the original prediction and what it actually arrived with.
@@seanplace8192 It had gotten to the point in June where I no longer trusted the percentage estimates, and started using different rules to decide when I was ready to unplug. Somewhat in jest, I told Tesla that the issue had gotten "beyond plaid", a joke that went over the head of the service advisor. I had shared a screenshot from the touch screen, where I was at the supercharger in Primm, NV, at 51% SoC, and the car was estimating that I would get to Mesquite, 120 miles away, with 18%, an estimate that I knew I should not trust. This was in a 2021 standard-range Model 3. Returning home to Minnesota, I was relying on notes from a trip to Colorado in September 2022 for charging decisions.
@@seanplace8192 Same here. 2023 Tesla model YLR.
So far on my Model Y the % indicator is within +/- 1% on long trips. But weather and hills affect it and it recalculates just like a gas gauge does in an ICE car.
As always slow down if if you have a concern.
Either you are click baiting or don’t understand the word stranded. If you can drive to the next super charger you are not “stranded”. Please don’t click bait you should be above that.
Agreed
Click baiting is a scourge and EVERYONE does it. So annoying to spend time to watch a video to only discover the thing in the title that draws you in isn’t part of the video. Shameful! Personally, I withhold the like on any video I’m click baited on. Encourage everyone to do the same. That will get CCs from doing it as it hits them directly in the wallet.
Go cry about it
Imagine being upset about a clickbait title. Plz go touch some grass
Did I catch a continuity error? They arrived at their last charging stop in the rain, then we saw a montage of them leaving, and then instead of being home we were back at the previous charging stop seeing them unplug and depart.
Its a different reality.
Kyle: "I've been trying to find one of these for years!" Alyssa: "Why?" Because some people have a sickness, that's why 😂
My boy Scooby is watching the video with me and he's very interested in Walter 😂 Good thing you didnt arrive at that down station at 1%!
You just plug in your charging cord and wait a while.
Wish you had plugged into the ice machine at the down supercharger station.😄
That yellow spot on your windscreen was driving me crazy I so wanted to clean it off! Cute dog BTW.
To be fair, it takes a trivial amount of power to keep gasoline pumps active compared to EV chargers. I think as time goes by more megapacks will be deployed at charging stations just to take advantage of off peak power rates.
Gsaoine in any form is UNSUSTAINABLE.
@@markplott4820 Sure it is. In WW2 the Japanese aircraft used man-made aviation grade gasoline.
GAS station & pumps are a DYING breed , they are Permanently closing GAS stations.
@@markplott4820 I’ve seen more new gas stations in the last two decades than I’ve seen permanently closed ones
@@cbatiau2528 - perhaps its a CA thing , many States have BANS on NEW gas stations.
Will you film the valve repair? Would be nerdy but interesting!
Totally agreed as a nerd lol
Your new dog is just beyond adorable! Thanks for another great video.
would having shade (maybe in the form of a solar canopy that could also charge a battery) assist with keeping the cars cooling efficiency while charging?
It would
Quite significant difference tbh from my experience in Vegas and central California
I wish all superchargers had solar conapy + battery packs. Maybe someday. They are already very expensive to install chargers only.
A solar canopy is a great idea, but the power is usable only if the site also has a battery pack.
you would need 7,000 w, to charge a TESLA any meaningful amount.
Watch out for the UK Sun newspaper to grab your video and use the failed supercharge for a story about how terrible EVs are.
Re:Grid down; wife navigator demands big buffers on road trips.
If you look in the dictionary under "galumphing", you'll see a picture of Walter running. 😂
Wish we got to see Walter meet Eli and Blue 🥲
The generator for the gas pumps has nothing to do with prioritizing the pumps over the Superchargers. Gas pumps don't take much power, they can probably power the pumps and the attached KikiEMart with a 20-40KW residential generator. Installed that's $20K. A generator for the Superchargers would have to be 20 times as large, maybe more.
Allot of superchargers are running on solar and storage, with the grid backup that up.
In a disaster it's more likely that you could have such stations still running for extended periods of time autonomously and without any additional effort, compared to a station that may operate on a generator for a day.
@@AllanSustainabilityFanA lot of Superchargers? Sure about that? At least not in the US.
I have only seen one v3 that also has Solar + battery storage at Quartzite. AZ.
@@AllanSustainabilityFan There are not “a lot” of superchargers that run on solar power and battery systems. It takes a massively solar array to charge automobiles during the day while charging the battery for use during inclement weather and during evening use.
@@CS-gg5hx Tesla reported that their superchargers are supported by renewable energy in aggregate, allot of it using their own solar farming setups, others in collaboration with local utilities.
Also, vehicles aren't fully utilizing the network 24/7, so there's plenty of time for them to buffer the load to meet their capacity needs in many locations.
"100% Renewable. With more than 45,000 Superchargers, we own and operate the largest fast charging network in the world." - Tesla impact report
@@AllanSustainabilityFan …“using their own solar farm setups“. Tell me where a solar farm is that Tesla built. I’d like to go see it.
If I damaged a friends car I would certainly pay especially if they trusted it to me.
Kyle, don't knock Sonic. You ate at a poorly run location. Sonic blows away places like McDonalds, BK, Wendy's, etc. Next time, just get a burger and fries and a cherry-lime slush.
If you are a long time viewer you will notice kyle bashes food, hotels towns , cities all the time. He is lucky at his age to have what he has. Most people start out staying at super 8 or motel 6. I agree sonic is great lots of variety
@@markfitzpatrick6692 yeah, I've been watching since before they moved to Fort Collins, but I never really noticed him bashing stuff like that. Most of his videos are a bit looong, so maybe I just wasn't paying close enough attention. I know he has a thing for his particular Starbucks drink, and he does have other peculiarities. But it was kind of weird to hear that a person that has traversed the country as many times as Kyle has, has never eaten at Sonic. I mean, for most of rural America, Sonic drive-ins are a staple of Americana.
Meh, I grew-up very rural; was literally an hour drive to nearest McDonalds/Sonic, etc. I’ll eat the Chili Dog there once every few years but that’s about it. Wendy’s is definitely better quality as far as meals go.
@@markfitzpatrick6692A lot of the rural hotels or places that people don’t really visit for leisure/tourism purposes are absolutely disgusting. They always have some gross smells, worn down, etc. At any price, it’s rare to find places in those areas that are not gross.
There’s nothing wrong with having standards.
Kyle has me all into wanting a Tesla Model 3 now. The problem I am seeing is the need for more chargers in Southern Colorado. There are only a few in and out of New Mexico and almost no other DC charging options. I do see that the Montrose, CO Super Charger is open for non-Tesla cars. I would like to see Kyle's take on charging something over there.
Isn’t 66°C too hot for a battery pack? That’s 150°F. I’d be really worried that kind of temp would severely degrade it while charging. How hot do Teslas with fully functional battery cooling get?
We don't know what the battery temp is, but don't buy his used model 3.