Nope, he is not, the job he did was only involving matching patterns, unlike the detinst and others who didi not stick to their job descriptions, like examining dentures but also examining the body. The man knows more than he wants us to know, however, his task was to examine the bullets, and he is sticking with what his role was. So whether you are honest or not, if you only answer what your role was and it does not involve you getting the evidence yourself, it was brought to you, then there is nothing anyone can hold you against, except what you did.
I am impressed about his testimony, he is a real scientist. He is not the 1st one though they are many in this case who has done exceptionally well in assisting the court to reach its verdict.
In this case the real bullet found on the door is not the same that went to be tested. The Senzo murder case was simple but was made complicated by police. If it is alleged that the bullet that shot Senzo came out from the back and stuck in the door panel then that bullet could have gone always for DNA test to ensure it is the right bullet they are keeping as exhibit. But since Gininda became in charge things never happened as normal. To bring confusion he went and take some bullets he shot at shooting range as exhibits. That's why the ballistic experts are claiming the bullets are matching with the gun. So this colonel is trying to cover up for Mangena. The fall of him is fall for Mangena then Gininda.
@AugustineKasivila lol conspiracy theory .The bullet that was stuck in the tiles is the same as the one that was pointed out to the popos by Nthabiseng Mokete in early hours of the 27th on the cupboard the fatal bullet that killed senzo 2.Mncube was described to Mrs Steenkamp to compile a identity kit ,three witnesses that were not in the house described him as a short guy with big eyes ,dreadlocks,gold tooth and beige clothing. Light bulb moment💡 Mncube is arrested he has pictures of himself in his phone album as described above dated 26/10/2014, even wearing clothing described by witnesses.Is that a coincidence?Ms Tefo(Mncube's GF)confirmed that a box of ammunition found on top of the wardrobe and it's cmj type ,same brand as the one found on the scene 🫡 3.Ntanzi was described by people that were not in the house 2.Statements from Mncube's bank collaborates Zungu's tops version. He was with them, mababoshwe .Either way Ntanzi is going to get killed by Ntuli after this he must just stand by his confessions. Just tell the nation the Truth NTANZI.The state's version doesn't change ,but the accused versions changes everyday so ask yourself why .ALLEGEDLY
This cross examination is jst a way for the defence to learn how the science of ballistics works. Nobody is making any attempt to discredit the evidence adduced😭
SEREO CLEARED HIMSELF FROM COOKING IN THIS CASE , AND HE DIDN'T TRY COVER ANYONE HERE, HE SAY HE DON'T KNOW NOTHING ABOUT WHEERE ALL STARTED HE ONLY VERIFIED WHAT HE GIVEN TO VERIFY THATS ALL . HE ALSO EXPLAINED ALL PROTOCOLS TO BEFORRE PERFORM THE EXAMINATION WHICH MANGENA DIDN'T FOLLOWED THEM ,EVEN ADV RAMASUPIL E COMPLETED THE HE ORDERLY CONDACTED HIS WITNESS'S SESSION
Adv Ramosepele got this liers, they test and verify different bullets how so bloody liers. Verification must be done on the same materials and comeback with same or varying results. Ba na le maaka
Now the others agreed but did not review the wek by Mangena. Yha this Baloi😂😂😂 he thinks he is clever. We know the other ones have refused to lie thats why he says they that😂😂 Question is how can u aggree to something u did not wek in?😂😂😂
If an advocate says that this team leader has more knowledge and taught him lots about ballistic. Who are you ?what qualifications do you have?say you didn't understand and ask clever people to explain to you
@thetad1242 I guess it's u who missed Ramza comment. RAMSEPELI comment was about being clear in throwing his colleague under the business in Short nice English showing they lied.
So meaning. the team leader is not aware of what his subordinates are doing nor his he tasking them and to submit progress reports no wonder Mangena could keep a exhibit gun unlawfully in his safe. No protocol 😂😂😂😂😂😂 from the go the defense should argue why he his been called to testify if he know nothing and can’t answer simple questions yeeerie. Period he is lying
Anyone who did not saw when the bullets were placed on a scene of crime, will always believe that they were there and the findings are legit. I don't blame the officer who believes in Baloyi+Kininda cooking pot 🍲
@@mthokozisilanga4497 No, the witness did not exclude the other bullets. He compare all 8 bullets against the exhibit. He just used those two bullets in order to record his findings and make photos. The judge was right to reprimand Rams.
I stand to be corrected here ,,,,when we are doing tests are we not supposed to use a ratio r percent that for it to match more than 50% of the fired bullets should match according to my own version 6 out of 8 bullets must have matched without any reasonable doubt ,,
@@sylvestermthembu I understand your perspective, and it could be relevant in a different type of test. However, with microscopic forensic ballistics, the focus is on achieving consistency in the same general area of the bullet. Sometimes, similar striation patterns may appear in 3 out of 6 grooves, or 4 out of 6, but these occurrences aren't represented as percentages like 50% or 67% in this case.
This witness has put the defence in their place, who often asks insightful questions but to the wrong person. Despite pressure, this witness remains firm. The situation is likely due to the defence's lack of preparation. I expect they will ask Gininda questions meant for the ballistic analyst.
They always prepare after the fact and pose questions to a wrong candidate. After that exercise they demand that the previous witness be recalled. They are likely going to asked if Roelofste be called.
Wht do u mean in their place,the role of the defence is to root out the cooking of the state and rescue the accused from being prosecuted for something they ddnt do
@cashland-B What I mean is the defence sometimes has far-reaching and effective questions, but ask the wrong witness. So far some wrong witnesses tended to volunteer a speculative response. At times, that would give the defence another bite of the apple. But that is not how they should be conducting their case. This witness refuses to give them a second bite. The sentiment is that they will learn to do their homework in the future and not find themselves in this place.
@ZemkorConsulting-ho4dv Yes, the judge has been lenient on the aspect of recalling witness. The defence now sees it as a right, not a privilege. The defence has threatened to recall about three witnesses thus far. That is how complacent and ungrateful they have become.
Mngomezulus role is to break the door for the whole defense, thats the role he has been playing ever since. Ramasepele will go deeper in his investigation, Mnisi will ask him his role and how he always run his offfice and why was he never involved, Xumalo will ask his position as to what he answered to the first advocates. Mshololo will ask his quality and qualification based on how he suppose to contact himself in this case. She will be the one to rap up the whole examination and bury him alive. Just like how he asked mangena if he was an analyst or an expert. Thank you
The SAPS should have sent it for DNA testing. Now, it may be too late, as proving that DNA was not planted by the SAPS on the bullet at a later stage would be difficult. Consider the O.J. Simpson case, where there were allegations of blood being planted. I suspect the SAPS will take similar precautions in future cases to avoid such accusations.
They do not, if they did this case would long be sealed, the state would have produced the DNA results and the issue of the Revolver would be buried. If you followed the case from the begining you wouod have known that the state claimed that there was no blood on the bullet, it went through very quick. This neans the is no DNA to test.
That's true that bullet was supposed to be tested for DNA but I think it's too late it hs been tempered mind u I saw them on Monday using bare hands that erase a lot ot info
The focus is on microscopic forensic ballistics and expert evidence interpretation. While Rams emphasizes individual bullet comparisons, the judge and Mangena favour the "composite" approach, where multiple comparisons offer clearer, cumulative evidence. In Mangena's first comparison with Rulofse's two test bullets, the result was inconclusive, but with Mangena's own eight test bullets, a definitive pattern emerged. The larger sample size strengthened the case, leading to a positive, conclusive result.
You know nothing about ballistics, you follow the proceedings, and you think using the some jargon here and there makes you an expert, try listening to the evidence holistically, then try by all means to be "objective", with all your analysis of the proceedings, you lack objectivity...you think correct grammar and eloquence makes you smart, no! It only makes you "sound" smart, but you lack intelligence. Anyone who's intelligent can see that the state is taking everyone for a ride; they are blatantly insulting people's intelligence, and many of you are falling on the trap, some because of ignorance and being gullible, and some because they are slow, dumb and stupid.
@@nkosikhangelemzilikazi1637 Try to contribute meaningfully and stay engaged. First, my statement presents an original point that hasn't been addressed in the court proceedings-it's my own observation. Second, I used the word 'composite' in quotation marks because I don’t believe it’s the right term; I was being sarcastic toward the judge. Third, while I’ve repeatedly noted that the state has a significant burden to meet in proving the accused guilty, my focus is more on the interpretation of the law, court procedures, tactics, line of attack, and the performance of the judge (great legal mind, but lacking emotional intelligence), the prosecution (average at best), and the defense (underwhelming). Lastly, it’s a free country-if you don’t like my views, feel free to challenge them or move on!
@@Bhiza-k7f You’ve obviously not been listening to Colonel Mangena. Did you hear him out evidence in record of his involvement at the crime scene? Trajectory? The ballistic findings go through peer review for compliance and quality assurance as per both ballistic experts , Colonels Mangena and Sereo.
@@Gojisi I do not blame u, Gojisi. I know, It is very nice to listen to fabrications like listening to inganekwane. In actual facts, dat ballistic analyzation is supposed to be declared null & void becoz it was conducted on the scene dat was contaminated
@@amukelanindindani2166 Don’t project your ignorance and lack of comprehension of simple concepts. I’ll tell you again, you’re a fantasies and deluded.
Mangena brought a door to court in the Oscar Pistorius case, whats so difficult in doing same here?. They went to measure accused persons instead o demostrating their proof in court 😂😂😂😂
I am seeing so. The defense must insist on taking the exhibit for DNA and link it with Senzo DNA. Gininda introduced a bullet he shot at shooting range.
@@AugustineKasivila 1st members of SAPS are informed how to do their work that according to the Law. Secondly I never saw swaps of DNA being done on a projectile, as well as the cartrages because of the degree of thir ht when they exit the barrel. They have an expert helping them, he will suggested that the projectile be taken for swap. Finger prints not taken of those exhibits. However on Firearms yes they use a glue technic to get finger prints from firearms
When a projectile goes into a human body it collects the DNA sample. In this case the sample exited from the back and landed on a door panel. So it has traces of human blood unless it was cleaned by an expert. That is the only way we can link the alleged exhibit to be the right one. That test can be done in a situation like this to ensure they have the right exhibit. Then to link a projectile with the gun used that will need to test marks and so forth using other samples from the alleged gun.
@@ZemkorConsulting-ho4dv A fired bullet exits the barrel at 300°C to 500°C due to gunpowder combustion and friction. It cools rapidly as it travels and passes through the body, allowing biological material like cells, blood, and DNA to adhere to its surface, making forensic analysis possible.
All accused are guilty There is a need to also charge all those in house so once accused are found guilty NPA should go to those in house they all have a case to answer to
In simple nje the 1st person arrested in this case had a strong alibi and was released Why can't they do the same if they were really not there I can believe if one says they didn't pull the trigger but one has to also believe they were bought to kill senzo and were there when he was killed hence arrest them and go after ones in house ul get truth
U also hear now that there is a possibility of other guns or u cannot rule out that possibility that should tell u something U might have a revolver and also the gun in question at that crime scene
😂😂 i told u Sereo will tell us he did his own job and he cant tok much about Mangenas. Now we are stuck with two different tests. Sereo did not review Mangenas tests but he did his own different findings 😂😂😂. I wonder Ratha fingers will do about this
They want to consult with the Mlungu first so as to poke holes in Seroa's evidence 😂😂, no need to rush otherwise you will miss crucial chance to discredit the witness
there it takes two of us, i also knew this exhibits are not from the scene. They were placed for photo shoot in pretences to be evidence against the accused.
Today witness was too clever for lawyers...... didn't wanna dragged into too much questioning ....admire you
I agree with you. The defence normally try to force the wrong witness to answer questions outside their mandate. This witness refused.
Let's wait fr mnisi n mshololo
@@mphomolefe39 sure
Mangena said Sereo did review/ verify the findings yet Sereo is disputing that !!! Loophole ...
I can tell from his voice Sana he's an honest man hay labanye
Nope, he is not, the job he did was only involving matching patterns, unlike the detinst and others who didi not stick to their job descriptions, like examining dentures but also examining the body.
The man knows more than he wants us to know, however, his task was to examine the bullets, and he is sticking with what his role was.
So whether you are honest or not, if you only answer what your role was and it does not involve you getting the evidence yourself, it was brought to you, then there is nothing anyone can hold you against, except what you did.
Honest but he was cooked
This is the first member of the SAPS' state witness list that was eloquent and articulate in his answers. Intelligent man.
You have never listened to Brgd Gininda🤞🏽
And that Mtshali police
Awziphe skhathi sazobuya vele gininda
Awziphe skhathi sazobuya vele gininda
I am impressed about his testimony, he is a real scientist. He is not the 1st one though they are many in this case who has done exceptionally well in assisting the court to reach its verdict.
In this case the real bullet found on the door is not the same that went to be tested. The Senzo murder case was simple but was made complicated by police. If it is alleged that the bullet that shot Senzo came out from the back and stuck in the door panel then that bullet could have gone always for DNA test to ensure it is the right bullet they are keeping as exhibit. But since Gininda became in charge things never happened as normal. To bring confusion he went and take some bullets he shot at shooting range as exhibits. That's why the ballistic experts are claiming the bullets are matching with the gun.
So this colonel is trying to cover up for Mangena. The fall of him is fall for Mangena then Gininda.
are you okay if i may ask
@AugustineKasivila lol conspiracy theory .The bullet that was stuck in the tiles is the same as the one that was pointed out to the popos by Nthabiseng Mokete in early hours of the 27th on the cupboard the fatal bullet that killed senzo 2.Mncube was described to Mrs Steenkamp to compile a identity kit ,three witnesses that were not in the house described him as a short guy with big eyes ,dreadlocks,gold tooth and beige clothing. Light bulb moment💡 Mncube is arrested he has pictures of himself in his phone album as described above dated 26/10/2014, even wearing clothing described by witnesses.Is that a coincidence?Ms Tefo(Mncube's GF)confirmed that a box of ammunition found on top of the wardrobe and it's cmj type ,same brand as the one found on the scene 🫡 3.Ntanzi was described by people that were not in the house 2.Statements from Mncube's bank collaborates Zungu's tops version. He was with them, mababoshwe .Either way Ntanzi is going to get killed by Ntuli after this he must just stand by his confessions. Just tell the nation the Truth NTANZI.The state's version doesn't change ,but the accused versions changes everyday so ask yourself why .ALLEGEDLY
@@Chibvunzamnx stupid post ever striving do hard to be relavant
This cross examination is jst a way for the defence to learn how the science of ballistics works. Nobody is making any attempt to discredit the evidence adduced😭
To be fair there was nothing to discredit on his evidence anyways
SEREO CLEARED HIMSELF FROM COOKING IN THIS CASE , AND HE DIDN'T TRY COVER ANYONE HERE, HE SAY HE DON'T KNOW NOTHING ABOUT WHEERE ALL STARTED HE ONLY VERIFIED WHAT HE GIVEN TO VERIFY THATS ALL . HE ALSO EXPLAINED ALL PROTOCOLS TO BEFORRE PERFORM THE EXAMINATION WHICH MANGENA DIDN'T FOLLOWED THEM ,EVEN ADV RAMASUPIL E COMPLETED THE HE ORDERLY CONDACTED HIS WITNESS'S SESSION
Why are you shouting?
Lol judge Ratha ignore Baloi regarding the firearm question objection 😅
Why is he allowed to evade answering questions?
All accused are innocent
Lol they are innocent in Kwanongoma mfo .where ubunkabi is a business
I agree with you 100% the accused are innocent.
😂😂@@Chibvunza
@@Chibvunzapls write this again n again😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂@@Chibvunza😂😂😂😂 yhoo
But why is this witness here as he do not know anything?????
Adv Ramosepele got this liers, they test and verify different bullets how so bloody liers. Verification must be done on the same materials and comeback with same or varying results. Ba na le maaka
Honest man but scared to loose the job so forced to lie.
Now the others agreed but did not review the wek by Mangena. Yha this Baloi😂😂😂 he thinks he is clever. We know the other ones have refused to lie thats why he says they that😂😂 Question is how can u aggree to something u did not wek in?😂😂😂
What a useleeeeess team leader 🚮what was he verifying kante🫨they will keep throwing each other under bus watch the space🤸🏿♀️🎊🥳
You missed it they didn't throw each other under the bus. Ramosepele was impressed with the witness, he even said so.
If an advocate says that this team leader has more knowledge and taught him lots about ballistic. Who are you ?what qualifications do you have?say you didn't understand and ask clever people to explain to you
@thetad1242 I guess it's u who missed Ramza comment. RAMSEPELI comment was about being clear in throwing his colleague under the business in Short nice English showing they lied.
@@ChibvunzaViolence 😅😅😅
@@thetad1242 did i talk about ramosepele?how do you guys read kante?ha le a ukwa non stop conzradictions le disusu?
Can the judge be changed?
YES ALL THE ACCUSED ARE INNOCENT THERE IS NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO INCRIMINATE THEM
There is a gun that was found in accused 3 which allegedly killed Senzo. They can't be innocent when they can't prove where they were that day
Kodwa Ave ngimthanda Mngomezulu he desc my mam
So meaning. the team leader is not aware of what his subordinates are doing nor his he tasking them and to submit progress reports no wonder Mangena could keep a exhibit gun unlawfully in his safe. No protocol 😂😂😂😂😂😂 from the go the defense should argue why he his been called to testify if he know nothing and can’t answer simple questions yeeerie. Period he is lying
All the accused are innocent
😢😢😢
Udla medication accuse 5 eqine kangaka ke
@@gogolesh medication yani mhlampe?
@@gogoleshyini eqinile, i medication?
Ngazi kuphi ukuthi yeyani ask Baloyi what was it for that delayed them
Advocate Ramosepidi 🎉🎉
This witness is not honest,he is trying to protect mangenas mess,😂😂😂😂
Straight unswers he doesn't want to commit himself, clever this one
😂😂Dlakadla is the best he goes straight to the point
Baloyi open the door for defense now they are inside he lock them in 😂😂😂😂😂
All the lawyers today there in classroom 😅
Anyone who did not saw when the bullets were placed on a scene of crime, will always believe that they were there and the findings are legit. I don't blame the officer who believes in Baloyi+Kininda cooking pot 🍲
There is no semblance of a person in this Ntuli guy....his look...yoh!!
The judge was correct; Rams did suggest that test bullets 4 and 8 are exclusively emphasized or preferred.
That is true, he chose the 2 out of the rest, and that is not wrong, but he excluded others, and he is allowed to, so Rams is not wrong.
@@mthokozisilanga4497 No, the witness did not exclude the other bullets. He compare all 8 bullets against the exhibit. He just used those two bullets in order to record his findings and make photos. The judge was right to reprimand Rams.
I stand to be corrected here ,,,,when we are doing tests are we not supposed to use a ratio r percent that for it to match more than 50% of the fired bullets should match according to my own version 6 out of 8 bullets must have matched without any reasonable doubt ,,
@@sylvestermthembu I understand your perspective, and it could be relevant in a different type of test. However, with microscopic forensic ballistics, the focus is on achieving consistency in the same general area of the bullet. Sometimes, similar striation patterns may appear in 3 out of 6 grooves, or 4 out of 6, but these occurrences aren't represented as percentages like 50% or 67% in this case.
This witness has put the defence in their place, who often asks insightful questions but to the wrong person. Despite pressure, this witness remains firm. The situation is likely due to the defence's lack of preparation. I expect they will ask Gininda questions meant for the ballistic analyst.
They always prepare after the fact and pose questions to a wrong candidate. After that exercise they demand that the previous witness be recalled. They are likely going to asked if Roelofste be called.
Wht do u mean in their place,the role of the defence is to root out the cooking of the state and rescue the accused from being prosecuted for something they ddnt do
@cashland-B What I mean is the defence sometimes has far-reaching and effective questions, but ask the wrong witness. So far some wrong witnesses tended to volunteer a speculative response. At times, that would give the defence another bite of the apple. But that is not how they should be conducting their case. This witness refuses to give them a second bite. The sentiment is that they will learn to do their homework in the future and not find themselves in this place.
@ZemkorConsulting-ho4dv Yes, the judge has been lenient on the aspect of recalling witness. The defence now sees it as a right, not a privilege. The defence has threatened to recall about three witnesses thus far. That is how complacent and ungrateful they have become.
Mngomezulus role is to break the door for the whole defense, thats the role he has been playing ever since. Ramasepele will go deeper in his investigation, Mnisi will ask him his role and how he always run his offfice and why was he never involved, Xumalo will ask his position as to what he answered to the first advocates. Mshololo will ask his quality and qualification based on how he suppose to contact himself in this case. She will be the one to rap up the whole examination and bury him alive. Just like how he asked mangena if he was an analyst or an expert. Thank you
Because others were unknowingly used, hence others were aware of ingredients added in the 🍲 soup
I don't know why Defence are not insisting on testing the exhibit bullet for DNA. They still have Senzo DNA samples.
The SAPS should have sent it for DNA testing. Now, it may be too late, as proving that DNA was not planted by the SAPS on the bullet at a later stage would be difficult. Consider the O.J. Simpson case, where there were allegations of blood being planted. I suspect the SAPS will take similar precautions in future cases to avoid such accusations.
They don't, the police has those samples and surely they will lie and say they were destroyed somehow.
They do not, if they did this case would long be sealed, the state would have produced the DNA results and the issue of the Revolver would be buried.
If you followed the case from the begining you wouod have known that the state claimed that there was no blood on the bullet, it went through very quick. This neans the is no DNA to test.
That's true that bullet was supposed to be tested for DNA but I think it's too late it hs been tempered mind u I saw them on Monday using bare hands that erase a lot ot info
*ALLEGEDLY: "**42:59** IS THE SO CALLED JUDGE MUMBLES TO HIMSELF OR SOMEONE"?????*
The focus is on microscopic forensic ballistics and expert evidence interpretation. While Rams emphasizes individual bullet comparisons, the judge and Mangena favour the "composite" approach, where multiple comparisons offer clearer, cumulative evidence. In Mangena's first comparison with Rulofse's two test bullets, the result was inconclusive, but with Mangena's own eight test bullets, a definitive pattern emerged. The larger sample size strengthened the case, leading to a positive, conclusive result.
You know nothing about ballistics, you follow the proceedings, and you think using the some jargon here and there makes you an expert, try listening to the evidence holistically, then try by all means to be "objective", with all your analysis of the proceedings, you lack objectivity...you think correct grammar and eloquence makes you smart, no! It only makes you "sound" smart, but you lack intelligence. Anyone who's intelligent can see that the state is taking everyone for a ride; they are blatantly insulting people's intelligence, and many of you are falling on the trap, some because of ignorance and being gullible, and some because they are slow, dumb and stupid.
@@nkosikhangelemzilikazi1637 Try to contribute meaningfully and stay engaged. First, my statement presents an original point that hasn't been addressed in the court proceedings-it's my own observation. Second, I used the word 'composite' in quotation marks because I don’t believe it’s the right term; I was being sarcastic toward the judge. Third, while I’ve repeatedly noted that the state has a significant burden to meet in proving the accused guilty, my focus is more on the interpretation of the law, court procedures, tactics, line of attack, and the performance of the judge (great legal mind, but lacking emotional intelligence), the prosecution (average at best), and the defense (underwhelming). Lastly, it’s a free country-if you don’t like my views, feel free to challenge them or move on!
The nonsense technician must fired bcz there's no audio voices after lunch
He was watching or listening to the questioning of mangena
All accused are innocent the more the whole world views this case the more someone benefits, just like on Tik Tok
Defence met their match today - they were lectured and subdued by the witness.
Expert failing to answer generic questions😮
The case is specific on evidence
@@Gojisi You cannot just jump to ballistic without analyzing the scene. Evidence needs to be verified for correctness
@@Bhiza-k7f You’ve obviously not been listening to Colonel Mangena. Did you hear him out evidence in record of his involvement at the crime scene? Trajectory? The ballistic findings go through peer review for compliance and quality assurance as per both ballistic experts , Colonels Mangena and Sereo.
@@Gojisi I do not blame u, Gojisi. I know, It is very nice to listen to fabrications like listening to inganekwane. In actual facts, dat ballistic analyzation is supposed to be declared null & void becoz it was conducted on the scene dat was contaminated
@@Bhiza-k7f You’re all over the place, map out your arguments. What’s your highest qualification in ballistic science?
Nearly say Gininda
These advocates Defence are Assisted by thier Specialist is that allowed?
Yes dear it is
This is not examination room, it’s a courtroom 😊
You asked as if they are writing estoppel or RRLB😅😅😅
Lelicala laphekwa zinkunzimalanga🤞
Let say everything is collaboration n the gun is real then who shot senzo meyiwa
Baloyi the net is closing on your lies
It must be a virtual net only seen by a few deluded people.
@@Gojisi😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@GojisiI can tell you have no clue as to what is happening
@@amukelanindindani2166 Don’t project your ignorance and lack of comprehension of simple concepts. I’ll tell you again, you’re a fantasies and deluded.
Mangena brought a door to court in the Oscar Pistorius case, whats so difficult in doing same here?. They went to measure accused persons instead o demostrating their proof in court 😂😂😂😂
Slow down Ramsip
This judge likes name dropping.🤣🤣🤣🤣
WHEN ARE WE GONNA GET A TRUTHFUL WITNESS ON THIS TAVERN COURT
The exhibits that received from the crime scene is not the right trust me before we go further.
I am seeing so. The defense must insist on taking the exhibit for DNA and link it with Senzo DNA. Gininda introduced a bullet he shot at shooting range.
@@AugustineKasivila 1st members of SAPS are informed how to do their work that according to the Law. Secondly I never saw swaps of DNA being done on a projectile, as well as the cartrages because of the degree of thir ht when they exit the barrel. They have an expert helping them, he will suggested that the projectile be taken for swap. Finger prints not taken of those exhibits. However on Firearms yes they use a glue technic to get finger prints from firearms
When a projectile goes into a human body it collects the DNA sample. In this case the sample exited from the back and landed on a door panel. So it has traces of human blood unless it was cleaned by an expert. That is the only way we can link the alleged exhibit to be the right one. That test can be done in a situation like this to ensure they have the right exhibit. Then to link a projectile with the gun used that will need to test marks and so forth using other samples from the alleged gun.
@@ZemkorConsulting-ho4dv A fired bullet exits the barrel at 300°C to 500°C due to gunpowder combustion and friction. It cools rapidly as it travels and passes through the body, allowing biological material like cells, blood, and DNA to adhere to its surface, making forensic analysis possible.
All accused are guilty
There is a need to also charge all those in house so once accused are found guilty NPA should go to those in house they all have a case to answer to
Well said😅
U really are not well in your head 😂😂😂what makes the accused guilty as you saying???
Uyagula wena ....guilty your head 😅😂
In simple nje the 1st person arrested in this case had a strong alibi and was released
Why can't they do the same if they were really not there
I can believe if one says they didn't pull the trigger but one has to also believe they were bought to kill senzo and were there when he was killed hence arrest them and go after ones in house ul get truth
U also hear now that there is a possibility of other guns or u cannot rule out that possibility that should tell u something
U might have a revolver and also the gun in question at that crime scene
😂😂 i told u Sereo will tell us he did his own job and he cant tok much about Mangenas. Now we are stuck with two different tests. Sereo did not review Mangenas tests but he did his own different findings 😂😂😂. I wonder Ratha fingers will do about this
😂😂😂😂uyeza UMnisi and Mshololo
Defense nayo😮 why tomorrow
Mngomezulu yinja engina mazinyo uyathanda ukuthusela
Yakhuluma inja enamazinyo kodwa aUseless
Aike lies bengimu qala yesterday ukt angawa khulume ama hearsay bevutha❤
Mhla wenja Mngomezulu he’s well educated wena tumele madlala nabulala. U senzo lapho endlini Nino Longwe
😂agree with something ,urself didn't verified 😂😂😂
This so judge Ratha is bias shame
You like lit colonel Mangena Mngomezulu
Because he so buyers
The behavior of this judge is something else
Mangena illegally smuggled the gun into the premises of the ballistic centre. This Sereo is just a liar. He never reviewed any wek by Mangena. 😢😢😢
Ratha you are a distrace
This ratha he was s check his big head so witness so that witness he must no to deffence
😂😂😂😂
All accused are guilty
Meaning all these accused they were in the house???????
Msahhh
U must be a judge ..u too are smart
@@RanjiniThukulukanamiam a judge already 😅
Ratha👎👎👎
This judge must be arrested
Why u need to be arrested first and he shall follow u maybe
True,,,wa TENA this judge
😂😂😂😂
These lawyer 😂its still early but no they want to start tomorrow
They want to consult with the Mlungu first so as to poke holes in Seroa's evidence 😂😂, no need to rush otherwise you will miss crucial chance to discredit the witness
The exhibits that received from the crime scene is not the right trust me before we go further.
there it takes two of us, i also knew this exhibits are not from the scene. They were placed for photo shoot in pretences to be evidence against the accused.