[EDIT] 6 months later, Sony decided to nuke the intro music by blocking this video globally, so I had to mute the audio. I despise the TH-cam copyright system with extreme intensity. Previous videos of mine that used anime music were simply monetized by the rights holders, and people could still watch them. They weren't nuked. Yeah, "just don't use copyrighted music," but that's the point for my intros/edits. Sony sucks, god forbid they don't get the $130 this video would have earned them.
i dont know what this means yet, maybe its some kind of joke later in the video. out of the contex that i assume i should have, this is a very menacing statement.
I use it but on server with crits turned off, i die easily to semi competent players, the speed penalty becomes noticible when you can't 1 shot classes everynow and then
How does Zesty manage to be muscular, gangly, flabby, handsome, soyjack, and sophisticated all at the same time?! Beyond that, how can he be the the voice of reason, unreasonable, scientific, bubba, abrasive, and charismatic all at once as well? Dude is like, 5 different personalities and persons within 30 minutes.
The Bleach Intro was a FUCKING MASTERPIECE Edit: as a longtime demoknight main (literally the only reason i play the game still) the eyelander slander is 100% warranted, justified, and correct. The Zatoichi is the balanced version of the eyelander imo and is underrated as a hybrid threat.
This felt like I was watching a movie and a scientific documentary had the biggest smile on my face watching I could watch this for another 10 years and always have a grate time every rewatch Thank you for your amazing attention to detail and attention for quality perfection
"the common stance taken on the pain train" Saying that implies most people even have a stance towards the pain train. It's Demoman's solemn vow; you get it to complete your collection of 131 functionally unique weapons, then mentally train yourself to forget it ever existed.
Solemn vow is great. Reading the balance of power in team fights with total accuracy, easily determining ideal degree of forward or backward positioning, identifying low health targets for free crossbow finishes, knowing what unfortunate 1v1 situations are winnable with needles, tracking Uber, calling target order accurately for a pocket... It goes on. Vs ubersaw that is useless outside of farming trash players to turn easy wins into even easier blowouts or rare fluke plays. Solemn vow is great. Best medic melee unless farming sub 100 hour players is the only goal.
@catbasedied5972 Ubersaw becomes very useful if you're tryharding, since one random hit on someone who isn't focusing at their maximum is 25% more uber, which means you get your push before the enemy.
Honestly the most based thing about Zesty is that at the end of it all, he's got fun in mind. Balance is good but what does it matter if it's hyper sanitized to the point where 75% of the in game items are functionally not worth using?
I don't think the point of balance is to hyper sanitize things to the point of unsuitability. Balance is making sure that each weapon has its place. A use. Each weapon is supposed to have the situations where it excels and the areas where it falls short. You are trying to get it so that no weapon is significantly stronger than their contemporaries and so that no weapon is overshadowed by every other option available. Everthing should have its place, but nothing should have its place in the dumpster or up on a pedestal. But yeah. If you aren't having fun, what's the point. I don't want every weapon to be like the stock shotgun and the family business. +1 stat -1 stat is very boring. Things should be like the loose cannon. Really shake things up.
@@redstonewarrior0152 One small caveat I will add. A weapon CAN be in the dumpster if it is deliberately made to be funnybad. The hothand comes to mind with this idea, it is genuinely awful but it tracks "Slap kills" and makes a funny thwack noise when using it so it being weak adds to the joke given it a sort of "use" in that way.
It wouldn't be a zesty video without: 1. Depicting all other opinions as soyjack redditors 2. Making a sponsor segment mentioning how he doesn't use sponsors 3. Making subtle (but deserved) jabs at other tf2 TH-camrs 4. YTP But for real, great video. I think I will use that sword that makes you charge farther more often (also pls make another ytp)
18:42 I mean, I can't really blame comp players for the caber getting nerfed into oblivion that much when all they asked was for the caber to not be able to one shot medics. Reducing the caber's explosion damage to like 135 instead of the current 75 would have been more than enough, since it would be low enough to not be able to one shot medics, but still high enough so you could terrorize snipers on the 2fort battlements, which was what the caber was always about lol
I feel like the comp community just jokingly said "ye nerf caber, it one shots medic lol" and then Valve went "Hey that's easy to do, let's do that one and call it a day!"
@@fcnth except comp players generally don't like having weapons banned, and the caber is a situation where it would've been piss easy to avoid doing that while still having the weapon be fun. But Valve shat the bed, so now we have that piece of shit
Hell, comp players get insulted all the time, but they never complained about the Dead Ringer and it still got nerfed. I don't think it's that hard to make a silly weapon that doesn't break the meta, but Valve seems very partial to hammering problems down.
As much as I agree with the fact that the Eyelander's upsides effectively neuter all other sword choices on Demoknight, there's something so satisfying about the snowball effect. Monke brain is very happy when each kill not only adds to my kill counter but also makes me stronger. Still, appreciate you giving me reasons to try out the other swords (for the most part, maybe someday Valve will at least somewhat uncripple the Caber).
Snowball weapons are fine when they have a weakness. The Baby Face's Blaster, while requiring very little input to counter in vanilla, still grants the user an INSANE boost in speed if they fill the meter. The Phlogistinator gives the user an insane burst of power should they charge it up, but only for a few seconds at a time. Hell, even the KGB is a decent example, since its on kill effect is very hard to chain due to how slow Heavy is. I just think that weapons that give you a resource on kill ought to be reworked with more interactive mechanics. Most of said weapons are top-tier, anyway (eg Air Strike, Frontier Justice, Bazaar Bargain). Pardon the long rant. I'm...very passionate about balance.
@@luckyluigi9828 "Prime Demoknight" of Boots, Splendid Screen and Eyelander HAS a weakness; its a melee only, zero instant recharge playstyle in a game filled to the brim with 12v12, sentry guns, heavies, and random crits. Unless you play like a COLOSSAL coward and only go for easy kills on isolated targets, you can get gunned down pretty quickly while waiting for that meter to go back up. And if you play like a coward, you're not gonna be more than the middle of the scoreboard. Thats also not taking into account stuff like accidental trimps, where touching the wrong pixel sends you flying madly off-course, the god awful melee hitreg, and how explosive knockback can forcibly cancel your charge sometimes, randomly screwing you over at no cost to the enemy. Also the Bazaar Bargain exists, can instakill an overhealed heavy, is a snowball on what is already the strongest class in the game, barely even penalizes you cuz 150 base headshots are still a thing, and for some reason less people complain about it than Demoknight.
Dude no. I don't thing you realize some of the problems that would cause. Often times, you need to be shooting the other team while you capture the objective. You can't really do that if you are holding out a stick. Different suggestion. Give it more benefits when it comes to completing the objective. A simple suggestion there would be giving either a slight damage boost or slight damage resistance when standing on one of your points on defense. You could give the player a slight boost to their movement speed while carrying the intelligence or while in proximity to the player carrying the enemy intel. I guess you could also give a slight buff to damage vs players holding your intel. Player destruction could follow something along the lines of the eyelander, causing the player to move faster and faster the more pickups they are carrying. This of course maxes out at four. Also, damage bonus vs the enemy mvp (that's the guy with the most pickups). I don't think that payload defense can work quite like defense on attack defense given how small the area is for the payload cart, so we will extend the effective area to a good area around any cart path objects. If you are within a jarate and a half of the track the payload cart travels, you get the defensive effects. And to indirectly buff the pain train, we will give the rocket jumper and the sticky jumper weapons a -1 capture rate. The jumper weapons already prevent you from scoring in CTF, PD, and PT, so why not apply that to any payload and control point based gamemode. But you are able to circumvent that inability to capture the objective by opting into a 10% bullet vulnerability. Now whatever is done needs to be able to be simplified to something you can slap in a weapon description. Given how massive the description is for the dragon's fury, I think that 20 lines of text is the maximum.
@@redstonewarrior0152 That's interesting, but you have to remember that the core design of the pain train is to make capturing objectives easier at the cost of having to be more vulnerable.
Your description of the Eyelander is incredibly accurate. It's undeniably the easiest way to play Demoknight, and Valve clearly intended this because they literally give new players the Eyelander for completing a few achievements. It's babies first Demoknight sword, and that's ok.
5:53 Loved working for you Zesty ! Im looking for the next time i can contribute to one of yout videos. On the topic of the video, it came out really awesome. It was definitely worth the wait to see this kind of quality which is pretty much unmatched in the tf2 community the edits are gold, the arguments make sense, the humour was top tier. So yeah, loved the video, loved the edit, loved everything. Keep up the great work man !
After 6 months in development, I'd say this was worth the wait. The editing was very entertaining and you managed to make the topic of weapon stats very interesting (yet again), though your tiredness and fatigue did show through in the more information dump-y bits. In some of your earlier videos like the Battalion's Backup one, its clear from the very inflections of your voice that you were satisfied with what you were making and happy with the end result; this one not so much. So if I had to give any serious criticism, don't worry about pleasing the audience so much that you psyche yourself out, go have fun and leave the raging twitter pissbabies to their own devices.
Holy shit this fucking rocked, once again a masterpiece as always. Even if you get salty the reason I love you is because you aren't ashamed for how you think. And you want to preserve the game's lifeblood. Your love for the game is pure. You like Tf2 the way it is (minus the bots) flaws and all and you dont want to tear the core game out by the roots. Keep doing good zesty, you're already approaching top tier animation, that into was on par with something out of a LazyPurple video!
Surprised you didn't mention this but the eyelander can transfer heads! As long if you have the same sword you can switch out primary and secondary weapons with any amount of heads, making grenade/sticky/sword possible with 4 heads
Zesty, i really like your videos, but everytime you say that people are gonna complain in the comments about your opinions it ruins the pace, we already know they will
27:05 “we won’t nerf sniper so we’ll give heavy 500 health” That’s so sad to think about but that was probably the thought process. Like man to be in that mindset when balancing a game must blow.
Sniper: Influences an entire game just by EXISTING and forcing ppl to adapt to HIM even tho Sniper was meant to be an off class Sniper apologists: Nah Sniper is balanced u guys!
@@danielsurvivor1372 sniper is op because you have to adapt to him unlike every other class in the game which requires no adaptation to counter. Well said!
@@garm2287 I understand the point youre trying to make, but its a neut one when, in snipers case, EVERYBODY in your team (and even sometimes in their own enemy team) HAS to play around a SINGLE player JUST because of the class they are playing and NOT because of how naturally skilled they are at said class. Every single class BESIDES sniper has a multitude of individual matchups and counter that makes their interactions nuanced, meanwhile Sniper is just *play around his sightline and flank while being scout or spy* or simply *be a sniper yourself* . Tell me what other class in the entire game *requires* to be countered by ITSELF in order for your team to suceed? No but yeah, Sniper is super okay
Zestys creative movie making skills are squandered on us heathens memeing and joking. always love seeing the well made videos you do and hopefully you get scouted for a good editors role somewhere
The amby change will forever be a mystery to me. As for the B.A.S.E. jumper, I'll be honest I'm glad I don't see it often. The other weapons mentioned are in a sad state though.
Actually a note that literally matters not at all: the steak actually has a hidden damage vulnerability when eaten meaning TECHNICALLY it’s a damage vulnerability on a non melee weapon (that forces you to use melee while the vulnerability is active so like actually proves your point further)
I genuinely laughed at "you weren't being very wholesome 420 keanu chungus today" being told by a home invader In all seriousness though, I think another way of thinking about the persian persuader is that it's like the widowmaker but for melee; it greatly reduces your downtime spent "reloading" as long as you keep hitting your shots.
fun fact: the title of the video is a reference to the hit anime series “Jojo’s Bizarre Adventures” and its spinoff video games “Jojo Sword” and “Jojo Shield”
I don't know why people think it's so bad. It's a bit of a boring design sure, but it's got a good upside for a very minor downside on the two classes it's on
Yeah, I love the Eyelander but I wish the others had more than just specialty roles. I feel the health and the speed should be split into two swords, Equalizer style.
maybe if either both aspects are boosted in their individual swords or if it is a leaning thing (250 hp, less speed or 175 hp, more speed) because otherwise it may make demoknight to fragile or slow to approach
Wholesome chungus island blazing it 420 style with the rizzler gyatt demoknight TF2 nation army MrBeast billionaire apocalypse... Spy gaming, perchance.
Wait, Zesty goes outside? That six months where you got stranded on the beach was definitely worth the live-action skit opener, though. Really getting MrBaffaCake vibes, which is great.
I just love using the claid with the loose cannon and tide turner, it's a really dopamin inducing playstyle, because you can double donk, then finish off easily with a charge. It's just so fun, even though it's not viable. You can also use the iron bomber or stock if you want more consistency
Just clearing it up. Sensory overload because something is so overdone and boring is probably referred to as sensory underload, or just annoying. Also, I kinda like this vibe of the guy that does this because he likes doing it, yet hates his audience so deeply because of what they do
the quality of the work done in this video is just off the charts. the first five minutes sold me. also just your accent in your voice made me feel right at home coming from Texas. Time in the oven well spent
I’ve honestly always enjoyed the Pain Train on Hybird Knight! Double Capture rate can be wildly effective when you just need that one last touch to push the cart over the edge or the last point to cap just that Nth faster. The bullet vulnerability is hindering, sure, but if you use the Tide Turner strictly to coward out like me, then it’s a great way to get out of hairy situations with Flanking Scouts or Funny Suprise Heavies. This was a great vid, enjoyed the shit out of it. Can’t wait for the next one.
The Ullapool Caber can still Oneshot light classes, but you have to hug them to do it. Also a interesting tidbit is that the Caber, is the only Melee weapon with Damage fall-off. When hitting a enemy it will register a base 55 damage + the explosive damage. The explosive damage is based on damage fall-off. Meaning that if you a far away, the explosion will do less damage, so you literally have to hug them to do full damage. The Fact the explosive damage has DAMAGE FALL-OFF for a MELEE weapon is extremely stupid. TF2 melee hit registration is also wonky, but sometimes you just trigger the explosion damage. A simple fix would remove the Fall-off damage, from the explosion, but give it a base explosion damage of 75. So 55 from a melee + 75 from explosive. That is 130 damage. Enough to one-shot light classes, but leave the other classes with low health.
I mainly like outspeeding scouts so id be fine at 175 health while outspeeding scouts but i will hate the shotgun knockback like always But yeah buffing the eyelander is a hell no
Completely agree with the section discussing the Eyelander. The issue with it, compared to other Snowball weapons, is there's too much to gain for it. Take the Kunai for example; while the health you get is great, your ability to capitalize on it, comes down to the situation you are in, what gun/watch you have, and whether or not you're being pursued. As a result, while it can allow you to do crazy things, it's easily shut down if played properly. Or the Frontier Justice, which requires enemies to run into your sentry, so you can get crits to use, and punish players. Or the Bazaar Bargain, which requires headshots to over you an increased charge, but you're still a Sniper, so you can be countered if an enemy flanks you. Each one of these snowball weapons, offers you a bonus, at the risk of building all that potential into a moment, but the Eyelander, basically takes this into overtime. Since each head gives you movement, Shield Bash damage, and Health; you basically just turn into a tank, that cannot be killed unless you take extreme focus fire. Combine this with the option to go back into respawn to switch loadouts to give you a Grenade Launcher, and you just become stupidly broken. Demoknight maybe hella fun to play, but he sure as f*ck isn't fun to fight when he gets like this "Just go Pyro and airblast him." This only works maybe 50% of the time, as sometimes Demo's melee will just ignore the airblast and decide you get crit anyway; and most of the time, he'll just run away to resupply, since you can't chase him. The only downside the Eyelander has, is starting off weak, but it's not too hard to farm heads off Dead Ringer Spys, or blind players and become invincible unless someone singles you out.
19:02 There are defenders for the Ambassador nerf (among them myself, it's still really strong and a lot of fun but a sniper that has the mobility and awareness of a spy is way too strong). There are no defenders for the Caber nerf.
[EDIT] 6 months later, Sony decided to nuke the intro music by blocking this video globally, so I had to mute the audio. I despise the TH-cam copyright system with extreme intensity. Previous videos of mine that used anime music were simply monetized by the rights holders, and people could still watch them. They weren't nuked. Yeah, "just don't use copyrighted music," but that's the point for my intros/edits. Sony sucks, god forbid they don't get the $130 this video would have earned them.
i dont know what this means yet, maybe its some kind of joke later in the video. out of the contex that i assume i should have, this is a very menacing statement.
Alright, till then I go A-2Forting-K
NOOOOO
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I spent like 12 hours in Hammer and SFM to get that single shot of the floating Heavies at the end
You poor soul
BROOO SPOLEIRS HELL NAh
Wait what? Did you make something for him? Sorry you had to spend 12 hours for that but it was worth it, you did good.
Spoiler alert
35:11 found it, also btw heckin amazing job on it man, I'd screenshot it and make it my background if not for the "AND A HUGE THANKS"
This is your most unhinged work ever and I couldn't be happier
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This turned out amazing. I use the tide turner and skullcutter so it was nice to see some effects of that combo. Proud of you
Hey I recognize you
@@_The_Dumbass_ Who are they?
@@wealthybone2990 twitch streamer
I use it but on server with crits turned off, i die easily to semi competent players, the speed penalty becomes noticible when you can't 1 shot classes everynow and then
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How does Zesty manage to be muscular, gangly, flabby, handsome, soyjack, and sophisticated all at the same time?!
Beyond that, how can he be the the voice of reason, unreasonable, scientific, bubba, abrasive, and charismatic all at once as well?
Dude is like, 5 different personalities and persons within 30 minutes.
geology involves knowing quite a thing or two about fracking
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I mean... He IS Jesus after all.
"Properly Villainous Jag" sounds like a strange tier lmao
The Bleach Intro was a FUCKING MASTERPIECE Edit: as a longtime demoknight main (literally the only reason i play the game still) the eyelander slander is 100% warranted, justified, and correct. The Zatoichi is the balanced version of the eyelander imo and is underrated as a hybrid threat.
L4d pan
The Zatoichi is my personal favorite sword. Mostly because of the duel mechanic.
Agreed, I also like the caber
He had to cut the bleach intro because of a copyright claim fuuuuuuuuck!
This felt like I was watching a movie and a scientific documentary
had the biggest smile on my face watching I could watch this for another 10 years and always have a grate time every rewatch
Thank you for your amazing attention to detail and attention for quality perfection
I swear to god I can never escape for 10 years at least
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"the common stance taken on the pain train"
Saying that implies most people even have a stance towards the pain train. It's Demoman's solemn vow; you get it to complete your collection of 131 functionally unique weapons, then mentally train yourself to forget it ever existed.
Solemn vow is great. Reading the balance of power in team fights with total accuracy, easily determining ideal degree of forward or backward positioning, identifying low health targets for free crossbow finishes, knowing what unfortunate 1v1 situations are winnable with needles, tracking Uber, calling target order accurately for a pocket...
It goes on.
Vs ubersaw that is useless outside of farming trash players to turn easy wins into even easier blowouts or rare fluke plays.
Solemn vow is great. Best medic melee unless farming sub 100 hour players is the only goal.
@@catbasedied5972 yeah, solomn vow is great. Maybe he meant the vitasaw.
I have a vintage pain train
@catbasedied5972 Ubersaw becomes very useful if you're tryharding, since one random hit on someone who isn't focusing at their maximum is 25% more uber, which means you get your push before the enemy.
Solemn Vow is one of the most dopamine level increasing weapons in the game
Holy cow, the introduction segment and island/beach scene had me in stitches. Completely caught me off guard.
Great video! 👍
Honestly the most based thing about Zesty is that at the end of it all, he's got fun in mind. Balance is good but what does it matter if it's hyper sanitized to the point where 75% of the in game items are functionally not worth using?
I don't think the point of balance is to hyper sanitize things to the point of unsuitability. Balance is making sure that each weapon has its place. A use. Each weapon is supposed to have the situations where it excels and the areas where it falls short. You are trying to get it so that no weapon is significantly stronger than their contemporaries and so that no weapon is overshadowed by every other option available. Everthing should have its place, but nothing should have its place in the dumpster or up on a pedestal. But yeah. If you aren't having fun, what's the point. I don't want every weapon to be like the stock shotgun and the family business. +1 stat -1 stat is very boring. Things should be like the loose cannon. Really shake things up.
@@redstonewarrior0152 this guy gets it
@@redstonewarrior0152 Tell me what place the Sun on a Stick has or you'fe full of shit.
@@redstonewarrior0152 One small caveat I will add. A weapon CAN be in the dumpster if it is deliberately made to be funnybad. The hothand comes to mind with this idea, it is genuinely awful but it tracks "Slap kills" and makes a funny thwack noise when using it so it being weak adds to the joke given it a sort of "use" in that way.
well thats not balence
The 6 months in the oven this video took was well worth it. Was glad to be a test dummy for it at least.
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It wouldn't be a zesty video without:
1. Depicting all other opinions as soyjack redditors
2. Making a sponsor segment mentioning how he doesn't use sponsors
3. Making subtle (but deserved) jabs at other tf2 TH-camrs
4. YTP
But for real, great video. I think I will use that sword that makes you charge farther more often
(also pls make another ytp)
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i love the ytp bit the most
On that YTP note, I loved seeing that shot of Super Robotnik "you're getting a prrromotion"
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ya forgot the weeb stuff
I swear I get a feeling of tonal whiplash when his voice just suddenly drops into engineer texas accent for like 2 words every minute or two.
27:04 "We won't nerf sniper so we'll give heavy 500 health instead." Lol. A sad true tale.
18:42 I mean, I can't really blame comp players for the caber getting nerfed into oblivion that much when all they asked was for the caber to not be able to one shot medics.
Reducing the caber's explosion damage to like 135 instead of the current 75 would have been more than enough, since it would be low enough to not be able to one shot medics, but still high enough so you could terrorize snipers on the 2fort battlements, which was what the caber was always about lol
I feel like the comp community just jokingly said "ye nerf caber, it one shots medic lol" and then Valve went "Hey that's easy to do, let's do that one and call it a day!"
Then they coulda just kept it blacklisted like they blacklisted 90% of all weapons lol
@@fcnth except comp players generally don't like having weapons banned, and the caber is a situation where it would've been piss easy to avoid doing that while still having the weapon be fun. But Valve shat the bed, so now we have that piece of shit
Caber wasn't banned in comp, I wonder why players just assume it was nerfed because of comp O_O
Hell, comp players get insulted all the time, but they never complained about the Dead Ringer and it still got nerfed.
I don't think it's that hard to make a silly weapon that doesn't break the meta, but Valve seems very partial to hammering problems down.
Zesty has been gone for so long that he fused with Asmongold to survive
Bruh, I wasn't the only one who though he looked like Asmongold lmao
That dude lowkey sucks ngl
As much as I agree with the fact that the Eyelander's upsides effectively neuter all other sword choices on Demoknight, there's something so satisfying about the snowball effect. Monke brain is very happy when each kill not only adds to my kill counter but also makes me stronger. Still, appreciate you giving me reasons to try out the other swords (for the most part, maybe someday Valve will at least somewhat uncripple the Caber).
Snowball weapons are fine when they have a weakness.
The Baby Face's Blaster, while requiring very little input to counter in vanilla, still grants the user an INSANE boost in speed if they fill the meter.
The Phlogistinator gives the user an insane burst of power should they charge it up, but only for a few seconds at a time.
Hell, even the KGB is a decent example, since its on kill effect is very hard to chain due to how slow Heavy is.
I just think that weapons that give you a resource on kill ought to be reworked with more interactive mechanics. Most of said weapons are top-tier, anyway (eg Air Strike, Frontier Justice, Bazaar Bargain).
Pardon the long rant. I'm...very passionate about balance.
@@luckyluigi9828 I just want my Caber to one shot Sniper man
@@luckyluigi9828 "Prime Demoknight" of Boots, Splendid Screen and Eyelander HAS a weakness; its a melee only, zero instant recharge playstyle in a game filled to the brim with 12v12, sentry guns, heavies, and random crits.
Unless you play like a COLOSSAL coward and only go for easy kills on isolated targets, you can get gunned down pretty quickly while waiting for that meter to go back up. And if you play like a coward, you're not gonna be more than the middle of the scoreboard.
Thats also not taking into account stuff like accidental trimps, where touching the wrong pixel sends you flying madly off-course, the god awful melee hitreg, and how explosive knockback can forcibly cancel your charge sometimes, randomly screwing you over at no cost to the enemy.
Also the Bazaar Bargain exists, can instakill an overhealed heavy, is a snowball on what is already the strongest class in the game, barely even penalizes you cuz 150 base headshots are still a thing, and for some reason less people complain about it than Demoknight.
How to make caber balanced.
Step 1:Make it one shot light classes
Step 2:Make it unable to be used with shields
Step 3:Remove the holster
@@luckyluigi9828 Since when is the Air Strike top tier?
Timestamp:
0:00 Intro
5:01 Start
6:09 Stock Bottle
7:25 Eyelander
11:54 Persian Prusader
15:54 Half-Zatoichi
17:53 Ullapol Caber
20:40 Scotsman's Skullcutter
24:28 Sponsor or whatever is it
26:01 Claidheamh Mor
29:51 Pain Train
32:31 End
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The pain train is as middle of the road as a weapon can be. Though it would definitely be better if the effects only worked when the weapon is active.
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Dude no.
I don't thing you realize some of the problems that would cause. Often times, you need to be shooting the other team while you capture the objective. You can't really do that if you are holding out a stick.
Different suggestion. Give it more benefits when it comes to completing the objective. A simple suggestion there would be giving either a slight damage boost or slight damage resistance when standing on one of your points on defense. You could give the player a slight boost to their movement speed while carrying the intelligence or while in proximity to the player carrying the enemy intel. I guess you could also give a slight buff to damage vs players holding your intel. Player destruction could follow something along the lines of the eyelander, causing the player to move faster and faster the more pickups they are carrying. This of course maxes out at four. Also, damage bonus vs the enemy mvp (that's the guy with the most pickups). I don't think that payload defense can work quite like defense on attack defense given how small the area is for the payload cart, so we will extend the effective area to a good area around any cart path objects. If you are within a jarate and a half of the track the payload cart travels, you get the defensive effects. And to indirectly buff the pain train, we will give the rocket jumper and the sticky jumper weapons a -1 capture rate. The jumper weapons already prevent you from scoring in CTF, PD, and PT, so why not apply that to any payload and control point based gamemode. But you are able to circumvent that inability to capture the objective by opting into a 10% bullet vulnerability.
Now whatever is done needs to be able to be simplified to something you can slap in a weapon description. Given how massive the description is for the dragon's fury, I think that 20 lines of text is the maximum.
@@redstonewarrior0152 That's interesting, but you have to remember that the core design of the pain train is to make capturing objectives easier at the cost of having to be more vulnerable.
People just dwell on it being worthless in ctf
@@majorghoul9017 fair enough, it definitely is useless on ctf lol
Your description of the Eyelander is incredibly accurate. It's undeniably the easiest way to play Demoknight, and Valve clearly intended this because they literally give new players the Eyelander for completing a few achievements. It's babies first Demoknight sword, and that's ok.
5:53 Loved working for you Zesty ! Im looking for the next time i can contribute to one of yout videos. On the topic of the video, it came out really awesome. It was definitely worth the wait to see this kind of quality which is pretty much unmatched in the tf2 community the edits are gold, the arguments make sense, the humour was top tier. So yeah, loved the video, loved the edit, loved everything. Keep up the great work man !
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What a fucking bomb to come back with.
Glad you're back zesty, we need more casual oriented content creators like you
After 6 months in development, I'd say this was worth the wait. The editing was very entertaining and you managed to make the topic of weapon stats very interesting (yet again), though your tiredness and fatigue did show through in the more information dump-y bits. In some of your earlier videos like the Battalion's Backup one, its clear from the very inflections of your voice that you were satisfied with what you were making and happy with the end result; this one not so much. So if I had to give any serious criticism, don't worry about pleasing the audience so much that you psyche yourself out, go have fun and leave the raging twitter pissbabies to their own devices.
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Thanks, and have fun.
His favorite class is the Demoman.
Holy shit this fucking rocked, once again a masterpiece as always. Even if you get salty the reason I love you is because you aren't ashamed for how you think. And you want to preserve the game's lifeblood. Your love for the game is pure. You like Tf2 the way it is (minus the bots) flaws and all and you dont want to tear the core game out by the roots. Keep doing good zesty, you're already approaching top tier animation, that into was on par with something out of a LazyPurple video!
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Bro I turned away for like a second and now you’re on a desert island, the zestyjesus lore is crazy
So no one’s gonna notice 25:19? Just me? Alrighty then
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makin some retro zesty intros
Surprised you didn't mention this but the eyelander can transfer heads! As long if you have the same sword you can switch out primary and secondary weapons with any amount of heads, making grenade/sticky/sword possible with 4 heads
This was soooo worth the wait, glad to have you back!
Zesty, i really like your videos, but everytime you say that people are gonna complain in the comments about your opinions it ruins the pace, we already know they will
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24:37 Reimu LET'S GOOOO
The Lord of all that is Zesty is back.
*All is right with the world.*
27:05 “we won’t nerf sniper so we’ll give heavy 500 health”
That’s so sad to think about but that was probably the thought process. Like man to be in that mindset when balancing a game must blow.
Sniper: Influences an entire game just by EXISTING and forcing ppl to adapt to HIM even tho Sniper was meant to be an off class
Sniper apologists: Nah Sniper is balanced u guys!
@@danielsurvivor1372 sniper is op because you have to adapt to him unlike every other class in the game which requires no adaptation to counter. Well said!
@@garm2287 I understand the point youre trying to make, but its a neut one when, in snipers case, EVERYBODY in your team (and even sometimes in their own enemy team) HAS to play around a SINGLE player JUST because of the class they are playing and NOT because of how naturally skilled they are at said class. Every single class BESIDES sniper has a multitude of individual matchups and counter that makes their interactions nuanced, meanwhile Sniper is just *play around his sightline and flank while being scout or spy* or simply *be a sniper yourself* . Tell me what other class in the entire game *requires* to be countered by ITSELF in order for your team to suceed? No but yeah, Sniper is super okay
Zestys creative movie making skills are squandered on us heathens memeing and joking.
always love seeing the well made videos you do and hopefully you get scouted for a good editors role somewhere
The amby change will forever be a mystery to me. As for the B.A.S.E. jumper, I'll be honest I'm glad I don't see it often. The other weapons mentioned are in a sad state though.
2:58 what we do is go back-back-back
Actually a note that literally matters not at all: the steak actually has a hidden damage vulnerability when eaten meaning TECHNICALLY it’s a damage vulnerability on a non melee weapon (that forces you to use melee while the vulnerability is active so like actually proves your point further)
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zesty chilling in the middle of nowhere with a spy volleyball is probably the most wholesome he will ever get and i love it
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now THIS is more like it
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ofc the most replayed part of the video is "zestybunny.png"
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This is the first "demoknight tf2" in this comment section. And certainly not the last.
I genuinely laughed at "you weren't being very wholesome 420 keanu chungus today" being told by a home invader
In all seriousness though, I think another way of thinking about the persian persuader is that it's like the widowmaker but for melee; it greatly reduces your downtime spent "reloading" as long as you keep hitting your shots.
9:33 uuuuuuuuuuuuuuh is that what I think it is?! pyrocynical rolling over in his grave rn.
It took him 5 minutes. Just. To. Start.
Bottleknight is truly the best Ghettoknight.
God I love the Persian persuader, those moments where you get a massive chain off is just wonderful
fun fact: the title of the video is a reference to the hit anime series “Jojo’s Bizarre Adventures” and its spinoff video games “Jojo Sword” and “Jojo Shield”
“But worst of all, *trans flag* “
Zesty what messages you trying to convey 💀
I still can't figure out if he's transphobic or not, that would fucking suck
19:49 Good heavens, a Falling Down reference .... NICE!
Your tirade was both hilarious and cringey. Never change Demoknight gaming Jesus
Thank god someone dosent shit on the pain train
I love using it so much and I have made some good pushes with it and the random crits are amazing
I don't know why people think it's so bad. It's a bit of a boring design sure, but it's got a good upside for a very minor downside on the two classes it's on
Hello, I'm here to help push the narrative:
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22:02: "nanomachines, son!"
The redditor bit at the beginning is so fucking funny lmfao
finally, demoknight tf2
I found it. I found the one contrarian motherfucker whose comment hasn't been deleted and it's probably only because he added "finally".
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Finally someone who agrees that most TF2 memes aren't funny.
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Yeah, I love the Eyelander but I wish the others had more than just specialty roles. I feel the health and the speed should be split into two swords, Equalizer style.
maybe if either both aspects are boosted in their individual swords or if it is a leaning thing (250 hp, less speed or 175 hp, more speed) because otherwise it may make demoknight to fragile or slow to approach
I want the Clademor to have 25HP on kill that could give 50HP overheal as a option to make it less of a specialized Shield Demo item.
You just strait look like Jesus on a day 10 of walking in a desert
Wholesome chungus island blazing it 420 style with the rizzler gyatt demoknight TF2 nation army MrBeast billionaire apocalypse... Spy gaming, perchance.
Thank you for the upload Zesty, it was worth the wait. Keep making amazing work dude
Wait, Zesty goes outside? That six months where you got stranded on the beach was definitely worth the live-action skit opener, though. Really getting MrBaffaCake vibes, which is great.
Zesty shits on Reddit for 36 minutes straight, uses 20 000 pictures of smug anime women, and then ascends to God-hood.
I guess he truly was the zesty after alll
I just love using the claid with the loose cannon and tide turner, it's a really dopamin inducing playstyle, because you can double donk, then finish off easily with a charge. It's just so fun, even though it's not viable. You can also use the iron bomber or stock if you want more consistency
The “One Thousand and One Demoknights” Item set features the booties, Splendid Screen, and Persian Persuader
"demoknight tf2" more like demo-nstrate deez nutz
I joined at the very end of the premier, just in time to here "This girl, is a racist" before it ended lol
This is not Zesty Jesus this is Zexy Jesus
i'm glad i'm not the only one who realizes just how good the persuader is with the targe.
also 29:45 i understood that reference.
10:31 Well thank you Zesty. I do love me loose cannon hybrid knight with the eyelander.
Wasn't aware Zesty was this based, the intro gets my sub
I’m still doing it:
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Just clearing it up. Sensory overload because something is so overdone and boring is probably referred to as sensory underload, or just annoying.
Also, I kinda like this vibe of the guy that does this because he likes doing it, yet hates his audience so deeply because of what they do
the quality of the work done in this video is just off the charts. the first five minutes sold me. also just your accent in your voice made me feel right at home coming from Texas. Time in the oven well spent
I’ve honestly always enjoyed the Pain Train on Hybird Knight! Double Capture rate can be wildly effective when you just need that one last touch to push the cart over the edge or the last point to cap just that Nth faster. The bullet vulnerability is hindering, sure, but if you use the Tide Turner strictly to coward out like me, then it’s a great way to get out of hairy situations with Flanking Scouts or Funny Suprise Heavies. This was a great vid, enjoyed the shit out of it. Can’t wait for the next one.
I like the fact zesty used a clip from Falling Down. Great movie to watch.
also pls bring back the 2nd server for us fans from europe zebsty
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-Says he does most of the work himself
-2 minutes of end credits
The Ullapool Caber can still Oneshot light classes, but you have to hug them to do it. Also a interesting tidbit is that the Caber, is the only Melee weapon with Damage fall-off.
When hitting a enemy it will register a base 55 damage + the explosive damage. The explosive damage is based on damage fall-off. Meaning that if you a far away, the explosion will do less damage, so you literally have to hug them to do full damage. The Fact the explosive damage has DAMAGE FALL-OFF for a MELEE weapon is extremely stupid.
TF2 melee hit registration is also wonky, but sometimes you just trigger the explosion damage.
A simple fix would remove the Fall-off damage, from the explosion, but give it a base explosion damage of 75. So 55 from a melee + 75 from explosive. That is 130 damage. Enough to one-shot light classes, but leave the other classes with low health.
28:05 mostly for myself. timestamp for the solarlight comment
Thank you from the future
Reasons to trimp:
#1. Your solarlight
#2. Your in a community server that has a huge map
#3. Funny self death
Honestly I didnt expect UT3 OST as background music
thats why the video took half a year i have my biggest respect
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I mainly like outspeeding scouts so id be fine at 175 health while outspeeding scouts but i will hate the shotgun knockback like always But yeah buffing the eyelander is a hell no
Worth the wait and well done. Good work zest!
persian persuader / scottish resistance / base jumper is the REAL demoman subclass
I don't use Swords, I just use the Caber.
Haha Black Scottish Cyclops go BOOM
Great informative video Zesty! Amazing effects and editing too!
This might be one of my favorite tf2 videos yet. Highly informative and entertaining
Seeing how annoyed people get when you repeat the same joke is funny by itself
They get SO sour as if it actually affects them 😭💀
I feel like that's the main reason why jokes like "Engineer Gaming" are so popular.
zesty is the angriest person i know and thats a very high bar
Completely agree with the section discussing the Eyelander. The issue with it, compared to other Snowball weapons, is there's too much to gain for it. Take the Kunai for example; while the health you get is great, your ability to capitalize on it, comes down to the situation you are in, what gun/watch you have, and whether or not you're being pursued. As a result, while it can allow you to do crazy things, it's easily shut down if played properly. Or the Frontier Justice, which requires enemies to run into your sentry, so you can get crits to use, and punish players. Or the Bazaar Bargain, which requires headshots to over you an increased charge, but you're still a Sniper, so you can be countered if an enemy flanks you.
Each one of these snowball weapons, offers you a bonus, at the risk of building all that potential into a moment, but the Eyelander, basically takes this into overtime. Since each head gives you movement, Shield Bash damage, and Health; you basically just turn into a tank, that cannot be killed unless you take extreme focus fire. Combine this with the option to go back into respawn to switch loadouts to give you a Grenade Launcher, and you just become stupidly broken. Demoknight maybe hella fun to play, but he sure as f*ck isn't fun to fight when he gets like this "Just go Pyro and airblast him." This only works maybe 50% of the time, as sometimes Demo's melee will just ignore the airblast and decide you get crit anyway; and most of the time, he'll just run away to resupply, since you can't chase him. The only downside the Eyelander has, is starting off weak, but it's not too hard to farm heads off Dead Ringer Spys, or blind players and become invincible unless someone singles you out.
TF2 movie cumfirmed??m
19:02 There are defenders for the Ambassador nerf (among them myself, it's still really strong and a lot of fun but a sniper that has the mobility and awareness of a spy is way too strong). There are no defenders for the Caber nerf.
Good video. I learned quite a bit from it, and the editing is superb as always. Bravo zesty, stop eating my liver collection though.
Make sure to search by new in order to see all the funny and fresh demoknight memes
Me a new install: Not learning how to call for medic on principle
ah yes the Fempyro mod. Trully a man after my own heart. Use the highheels model next time tho. its cute.