Honestly, I think there’s a general misunderstanding between what a working technique and what an effect are. Because in essence F/S and Dodge and Burn do exactly the same thing as far as what kind of adjustment you are applying on your image is concerned. This Dodge and Burn technique is the same pixel manipulation as a low frequency adjustment of the image. The difference you are pointing out is that it seems that people just use F/S kind of lazily, without taking the time to adjust it selectively to keep a more natural result. There’s a difference between using F/S as a quick and dirty image filter on the skin which will give you the plastic face result, and using the F/S separation technique as a way to retouch the skin. That’s what is sad about how people use the F/S technique because its whole purpose at first was precisely to leave the skin texture as untouched as possible. The differentiating aspect is how much time and precision you are giving to the skin retouching process, not the technique you use in itself. There are no really good or bad techniques in Photoshop, just good or bad ways to use them.
I totally agree, thanks for this valuable comment. This video is an introduction to a different technique than a quick F/S that does nothing but break skin texture. I say that in many of my videos, clearly, there is no right or wrong way to do something, and everyone has a different workflow. If you get the proper result, you really can do whatever you want, and you SHOULD even create the workflow with the techniques that fit you.
Yes. I’m an old dog with Photoshop, started learning it on version 2.5 in the 90s… but I’m still learning new tricks. The thing I’m a little sad about, is that nowadays the younger generation seems to rely too much on one-click solutions : bundled effects, filters, plugins or actions. Don’t get me wrong, I use them as well because I’m not a masochist, but I mainly know where they all come from, how they work and what they do. With PS (or other image retouching software), it’s very important to experiment and do some things the hard way first. Personally, I don’t like using a feature I don’t understand and I generally only add it to my workflow if I am able to tweak it to my needs. It’s the same with AI tools, I have a love/hate relationship with them because one time they do what I want perfectly on the first try and other times it stubbornly refuses to give the result I desire and I end up wasting time trying to tweak it when I could do it much faster the old fashion way.
This works people have fewer blemishes or clean skin !!! But what if we want to remove the blemishes from the skin? Then it required frequency separation!!! Afterward, we can use doge and burn!!
actually, no, you can remove blemishes without using frequency separation. New layer on color mode, brush with the appropriate color to remove the blemishes.
@@johntango9240 hmm that's weird, are you able to access Gumroad's website in general ? Please email me, I'll send you the action directly contact@louimagin.com
But the problem is that all the big accounts on insta with around 50-100 k followers do this plastic kinda look so everyone looks perfekt and it seems that this is what the majority of people expect. Normally you use dodge and burn to increase the darker and the brighter areas to let the picture more pop so I’m confused…
Interesting comment !! I do have another video on my thoughts about Instagram ... As a retoucher who has been working in different studios doing commercial work, I can tell that Instagram is far from having mostly great work ! It's important to know the difference between influencer and great work. That's not because you have 100k followers that you are good (don't get me wrong, there are also incredible artists on Instagram) In the high end retouching world, people really don't expect plastic result, you would be banned 😂 And finally, dodge and burn can be used in many other ways, and you're right, it's also used to get better contrast, it's a technique I use for travel photography ! But when it comes to skin retouching, this is what helps to manipulate the light (so also, brighter and darker areas), and that's how you can retouch without touching the texture but only the lights and shadows on skin.
Depends on your audience - if you want social media worshippers (and hence no commercial work) then plastic skin might work. If you have ambitions to be a commercial photographer/retoucher, then clients will expect something life-like and perfectly imperfect. Magazine-worthy but still showing the human imperfections of what real humans look like. This video is excellent - it shows exactly what is involved in commercial retouching, which is taking your time, and making something perfect yet with natural human flaws. The texture of the skin is paramount in this kind of work, clients will never want the Instagram "That doesn't look real" approach.
But these days you need to be someone on social media in order to get professional jobs in the second approach and with these imperfect fotos of imperfect people (you don’t get superstars and models in front of a camera as an amateur…!) it’s impossible to make yourself a name in the industry
Thank you for this! Great tutorial! I've been struggling with how plastic it looks with frequency separation and not wanting that for my photos. This is the way to go! Saved this video and subscribed right away. :)
It does take more time and attention. Did not say it's less time consuming. However, results will be more natural. So it depends on what is your priority. Quality or time !
As I always say to my customers, quality takes time or money. If you don’t have enough of one you need more of the other. Once in my career I worked for an agency that straight up told me : « We don’t care how much time it takes, take as long as you need, all we want is a quality job. » Never heard that phrase again anywhere else…
you're right this action isn't free anymore. The good news is that you can recreate the action if you watched the video. If you want to gain time, I do ask a small fee by now yes :)
![How to Dodge and Burn in Photoshop [2023 Updated Skin Retouching Tutorial]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/prv_lrrZRr4/mqdefault.jpg)
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Honestly, I think there’s a general misunderstanding between what a working technique and what an effect are. Because in essence F/S and Dodge and Burn do exactly the same thing as far as what kind of adjustment you are applying on your image is concerned. This Dodge and Burn technique is the same pixel manipulation as a low frequency adjustment of the image.
The difference you are pointing out is that it seems that people just use F/S kind of lazily, without taking the time to adjust it selectively to keep a more natural result. There’s a difference between using F/S as a quick and dirty image filter on the skin which will give you the plastic face result, and using the F/S separation technique as a way to retouch the skin. That’s what is sad about how people use the F/S technique because its whole purpose at first was precisely to leave the skin texture as untouched as possible.
The differentiating aspect is how much time and precision you are giving to the skin retouching process, not the technique you use in itself. There are no really good or bad techniques in Photoshop, just good or bad ways to use them.
I totally agree, thanks for this valuable comment.
This video is an introduction to a different technique than a quick F/S that does nothing but break skin texture.
I say that in many of my videos, clearly, there is no right or wrong way to do something, and everyone has a different workflow. If you get the proper result, you really can do whatever you want, and you SHOULD even create the workflow with the techniques that fit you.
Yes. I’m an old dog with Photoshop, started learning it on version 2.5 in the 90s… but I’m still learning new tricks.
The thing I’m a little sad about, is that nowadays the younger generation seems to rely too much on one-click solutions : bundled effects, filters, plugins or actions. Don’t get me wrong, I use them as well because I’m not a masochist, but I mainly know where they all come from, how they work and what they do.
With PS (or other image retouching software), it’s very important to experiment and do some things the hard way first. Personally, I don’t like using a feature I don’t understand and I generally only add it to my workflow if I am able to tweak it to my needs.
It’s the same with AI tools, I have a love/hate relationship with them because one time they do what I want perfectly on the first try and other times it stubbornly refuses to give the result I desire and I end up wasting time trying to tweak it when I could do it much faster the old fashion way.
Au passage, je rédige mes commentaires en anglais pour le public anglophone de cette chaîne, mais je suis bien français 😉
Finally!!!!! I’ve been telling photographers that F\S destroys the texture of the skin thus making it look plastic… dodge and burn all the way 🙏🙏
💯💯💯 For skin it's really the best in my opinion
This works people have fewer blemishes or clean skin !!! But what if we want to remove the blemishes from the skin? Then it required frequency separation!!! Afterward, we can use doge and burn!!
actually, no, you can remove blemishes without using frequency separation.
New layer on color mode, brush with the appropriate color to remove the blemishes.
Me pregunto si el pincel puede ser al 51% y al 49% de gris en vez de ser blanco y negro
Approximately how long does it take you to retouch skin on a face using this method?
It is going to depend a lot on the result I want ! Could be from 10min to 40min. And a lot more if this is a full body skin retouch
Thank you.
Always my pleasure 😁 Thanks for watching !!
Link to the action is not working!
Fixed ! Thanks again :)
@@louimagin.learnretouching Thank you for your quick reply but it's giving this note: "Sorry, this item is not available in your location". 🤔
@@johntango9240 hmm that's weird, are you able to access Gumroad's website in general ?
Please email me, I'll send you the action directly contact@louimagin.com
But the problem is that all the big accounts on insta with around 50-100 k followers do this plastic kinda look so everyone looks perfekt and it seems that this is what the majority of people expect. Normally you use dodge and burn to increase the darker and the brighter areas to let the picture more pop so I’m confused…
Interesting comment !!
I do have another video on my thoughts about Instagram ... As a retoucher who has been working in different studios doing commercial work, I can tell that Instagram is far from having mostly great work ! It's important to know the difference between influencer and great work. That's not because you have 100k followers that you are good (don't get me wrong, there are also incredible artists on Instagram)
In the high end retouching world, people really don't expect plastic result, you would be banned 😂
And finally, dodge and burn can be used in many other ways, and you're right, it's also used to get better contrast, it's a technique I use for travel photography ! But when it comes to skin retouching, this is what helps to manipulate the light (so also, brighter and darker areas), and that's how you can retouch without touching the texture but only the lights and shadows on skin.
Depends on your audience - if you want social media worshippers (and hence no commercial work) then plastic skin might work. If you have ambitions to be a commercial photographer/retoucher, then clients will expect something life-like and perfectly imperfect. Magazine-worthy but still showing the human imperfections of what real humans look like.
This video is excellent - it shows exactly what is involved in commercial retouching, which is taking your time, and making something perfect yet with natural human flaws. The texture of the skin is paramount in this kind of work, clients will never want the Instagram "That doesn't look real" approach.
But these days you need to be someone on social media in order to get professional jobs in the second approach and with these imperfect fotos of imperfect people (you don’t get superstars and models in front of a camera as an amateur…!) it’s impossible to make yourself a name in the industry
Thank you for this! Great tutorial! I've been struggling with how plastic it looks with frequency separation and not wanting that for my photos. This is the way to go! Saved this video and subscribed right away. :)
So happy to read that it helps! it asks a bit of practice but once you get it, the results are very satisfying and natural
I think its more complicated!! If im not wrong!! That is way too much!!! Time consuming Mamaa!!!
It does take more time and attention. Did not say it's less time consuming. However, results will be more natural. So it depends on what is your priority. Quality or time !
As I always say to my customers, quality takes time or money. If you don’t have enough of one you need more of the other.
Once in my career I worked for an agency that straight up told me : « We don’t care how much time it takes, take as long as you need, all we want is a quality job. »
Never heard that phrase again anywhere else…
don't tynn'a manipulate peoples, and this free retouching action of yours isn't free actually, asking for atleast $10 to try it
you're right this action isn't free anymore. The good news is that you can recreate the action if you watched the video. If you want to gain time, I do ask a small fee by now yes :)
Waaaay toooooo complicated!!!!