I had broken wheelbolts once on a saturday evening at the Ring, left the car in front Raeder Motorsport and they helped my Sunday morning right away for a very reasonable price!!
Tim/Shmee said that he felt his BMW Supra was nervous on the autobahn, so his car probably needs to be checked as well. Bloody good/important content Misha. Much kudos :)
Bought a 2023 3.0 in Canada brand new and the right rear toe adjuster was loose and out of wack. After a performance alignment it was very nice to drive
This totally makes sense in terms of running the rear bearing housings without slack. i would think that given the cornering loads these bearing housings experience around the track you would definitely want to do that. It would be interesting experiment after installing a new bearing/bearing hub housing to measure the bearing runout new, and then over time as things wear to measure the runout as this definitely affects the alignment.
Great tech reveal of your Supra's stock setup and the adjustments. This needs forwarded to Supra owners so they can be safe. Brutal that it was feeling unsafe on the high speed autobahn run out of the box. :-S
What's interesting to me is what they were saying on release: "our test driver this, our test driver that" , "no front strut bar cause he said the steering feels better without it" And now everybody is doing the opposite, changing suspension/alignment/adding strut braces. Isn't this car supposed to be more fine tuned suspension wise for the road and occasional track than lets say an M4?
For a well sort driver the 0 toe add to the drive, likely because it's going to be a rental ring car they have made it safer for less experienced drivers.
U keep teasing me misha. 3 years i been asking and no castle VLOGGGG ahhhh. LMAO. Thank u for all the great content, we missed u these past few weeks that u havent been Posting. Maybe one day my Castle vlog i been asking for will come true if i wish to the stars . 🌠 Hope all is good. And misha shhhh give us a lap with u in driver seat of supra on track.
Oh, thats a very nice and interesting clip! Very useful for Supra owners! Looks like this car is the tuner car of the year! Yep, and one question: Supra is lighter than M2 and M4???
My a90 stock rear toe was 1mm toe out and -1.9 camber on the left. 2 mm toe out and -1.7 camber on the right. I too feel like my rear end is very ‘lively’
My 2020 Supra is needing new rear tyres very soon. I have always found the back end twitches a lot when putting down the throttle to the point on some bends it’s like I’m drifting. I’ll get the alignments done to these specs when the tyres are replaced. Thanks 😊
I am surprised that the Supra was released to the public with the alignment like that. I wonder how many people are going to get into accidents because of it.
Jim Cole true, but as far as I’ve seen 90% of the owners are modding the crap out of their cars so I don’t think anyone is going to get killed by this issue. Ps still, it’s no excuse for the issue.
Some say it's an advertorial, some say it's an indepth view into team Manthey, all we know: it's called a Misha vlog :D (Pun intended, well worth the money to have your car aligned properly, not by Kwikfit students, but by a pro!)
My brand new Toyota Supra 2020 pulls hard to the right when I straighten the steering wheel. Even when I set cruise control and auto lane correction and it keeps pulling to the right when I release the wheel to freely move on its own. The Toyota service manager denies this multiple times and swears on it. I am at a total loss on what to do now and refuse to spend money to have a 60k car drive straight and meet the fundamentals of a car period. Please, any advice?
Pretty sure Honda, Toyota and most of the big manufacturers always tweak suspensions so you’ll have to return to the dealer with complaint. That way they can tell you it’s your fault or bumpy roads. Then maybe point out a few more things that your new car needs. Nobody really gets their money’s worth.
Can you tell anything about the subject “wintertyres” during the fact that a lot of people say you can have insurance issues during winterconditions.. referring to the rentalcars of the apex fleet.. ✌🏻
More importantly though is the steering issue. I provided both you and Robert with links to the European Auto Group videos about the potentially catastrophic steering failure. I’m surprised you’ve ignored it completely.
1/10 food vlog 10/10 safety information about Supra's would recommend you dont publish your exact alignment though, and get MR/Raeder to do a kinematics setup like your BMW race car. let's get some onboard of that Supra racing your GT2.. could make for some very entertaining video series of your top drivers taking on the Nurgburg Ring in some mighty cars.
@@CSOCSO while I would agree with you for the front alignment.. I doubt he did the rear.. you could see in his videos prior to the crash and in speed academies videos the car looks very twitchy
Hi!!! More than power, suspension and tyres make your car safer and faster! By the way Misha the Castle vlog is going to be done in the 30th of February!!! LOL
Het komt vaker voor en bij meer automerken dat de fabrieks uitlijning niet klopt met wat ze zelf voorschrijven, bij een sportauto is dat best wel slordig.
Why do they put 0 degrees toe-in @Toyota, for better mileage? Lol. If you can afford a Supra, most probably you're not looking for tires that last 100000 kms :)
....aQAAAAckk.. enough Supra Supra Supra Supra Supra Supra Supra .. enough... lol.. Actually SEMA just closed and it was ALLL Supra ALL the TIME!!!!.... I hope this model lives up to all the hype... I am tired of looking at it already.... time to make little balls of melted rubber...
Should probably print and handout that wheel alinement warning at SEMA for the 2763 Supra's that are on show there!
Lol
Those dont go much past 30kph in the bends
I had broken wheelbolts once on a saturday evening at the Ring, left the car in front Raeder Motorsport and they helped my Sunday morning right away for a very reasonable price!!
Tim/Shmee said that he felt his BMW Supra was nervous on the autobahn, so his car probably needs to be checked as well. Bloody good/important content Misha. Much kudos :)
it is called Toyota Supra, so it is a Toyota Supra
@@lightconstruct no u
I've been watching Misha's videos for years and still learn something new each time.
you learned that you cannot wait for the next one :)
shmee should have his supra checked as well, maybe the problem will get a bit more attention if he does a video about it.
don't worry he will, but he'll give a shout out to misha ;)
Bought a 2023 3.0 in Canada brand new and the right rear toe adjuster was loose and out of wack. After a performance alignment it was very nice to drive
This totally makes sense in terms of running the rear bearing housings without slack. i would think that given the cornering loads these bearing housings experience around the track you would definitely want to do that. It would be interesting experiment after installing a new bearing/bearing hub housing to measure the bearing runout new, and then over time as things wear to measure the runout as this definitely affects the alignment.
ty misha, took your advice from a previous video and had my wheels aligned. drove better and the road noise was less than half. for just 137 euros. :)
Great tech reveal of your Supra's stock setup and the adjustments.
This needs forwarded to Supra owners so they can be safe. Brutal that it was feeling unsafe on the high speed autobahn run out of the box. :-S
13:09 Misha had an "amazing pair of eggs"
we know it from your onboard videos, Misha!!
Great video, always like seeing the car setup / modification footage. Looking forward to seeing this car develop.
Excellent video .thank you for showing the suspension set up numbers.
Finally a new vlog!!
The 99.98% of new Supra owners haven't even noticed the flaw since they only run in a straight line.
What's interesting to me is what they were saying on release:
"our test driver this, our test driver that"
, "no front strut bar cause he said the steering feels better without it"
And now everybody is doing the opposite, changing suspension/alignment/adding strut braces.
Isn't this car supposed to be more fine tuned suspension wise for the road and occasional track than lets say an M4?
In the end it's designed as an road car, not a track car. The reason it has 0 toe in the rear is probably to save tires for example.
For a well sort driver the 0 toe add to the drive, likely because it's going to be a rental ring car they have made it safer for less experienced drivers.
I paid 35€ for a wheels aligment here in Slovenia at the offical technical inspection office.
U keep teasing me misha. 3 years i been asking and no castle VLOGGGG ahhhh. LMAO. Thank u for all the great content, we missed u these past few weeks that u havent been Posting. Maybe one day my Castle vlog i been asking for will come true if i wish to the stars . 🌠 Hope all is good. And misha shhhh give us a lap with u in driver seat of supra on track.
The only castle vlogs we'll ever get, is Misha checking the weather in the AM.
would be nice if they had the next summit up there
Oh, thats a very nice and interesting clip! Very useful for Supra owners! Looks like this car is the tuner car of the year! Yep, and one question: Supra is lighter than M2 and M4???
Supra: 1531 KG
M2 CS: 1588 KG
M2 C: 1635 KG
M4: 1670 KG
Pls correct me if I'm wrong...
My a90 stock rear toe was 1mm toe out and -1.9 camber on the left. 2 mm toe out and -1.7 camber on the right. I too feel like my rear end is very ‘lively’
Please can you share the alignment setup? Did you use 1.5 toe-in each side - total toe-in 3deg?
My 2020 Supra is needing new rear tyres very soon. I have always found the back end twitches a lot when putting down the throttle to the point on some bends it’s like I’m drifting. I’ll get the alignments done to these specs when the tyres are replaced. Thanks 😊
That beard IS AMAZING!!! It gives him an AWESOME THANOS CHIN.
😂👍 altijd leuk als je over dat kasteel begint !!
Some say Misha left a voucher for free alignment somewhere in the castle...
I am surprised that the Supra was released to the public with the alignment like that. I wonder how many people are going to get into accidents because of it.
Jim Cole true, but as far as I’ve seen 90% of the owners are modding the crap out of their cars so I don’t think anyone is going to get killed by this issue.
Ps still, it’s no excuse for the issue.
there was the first supra crash where the back right tire suddenly lost grip
Hallo Misha, I loved this type of vídeo showing the modifications on the car !
very interesting Misha video
Some say it's an advertorial, some say it's an indepth view into team Manthey, all we know: it's called a Misha vlog :D (Pun intended, well worth the money to have your car aligned properly, not by Kwikfit students, but by a pro!)
Haven't noticed this but will check it out. Thank you
some one explain this to nube. is it for track use or day to day driving and will it wear tires faster? thanks in advance
Is that a supra?!?
Foodshot 03/10
Very interesting subject! Thank you Micha!
Those alignment tools... They need to call John Bean
My brand new Toyota Supra 2020 pulls hard to the right when I straighten the steering wheel. Even when I set cruise control and auto lane correction and it keeps pulling to the right when I release the wheel to freely move on its own. The Toyota service manager denies this multiple times and swears on it. I am at a total loss on what to do now and refuse to spend money to have a 60k car drive straight and meet the fundamentals of a car period. Please, any advice?
did you ever fix this issue and how?
Awesome Misha...and the Beard of the Green Hell!
I have super bad tire wear on the very inside of the back tires. 5k miles and is already worn
Did you get an alignment? I flew thru tires until I got it aligned
Pretty sure Honda, Toyota and most of the big manufacturers always tweak suspensions so you’ll have to return to the dealer with complaint. That way they can tell you it’s your fault or bumpy roads. Then maybe point out a few more things that your new car needs. Nobody really gets their money’s worth.
Can you tell anything about the subject “wintertyres” during the fact that a lot of people say you can have insurance issues during winterconditions.. referring to the rentalcars of the apex fleet.. ✌🏻
Rentals won't go out in sub zero temps
Is the fuel in the tank taken in account for the weight distribution?
It does not matter that much because the conditions always fluctuate
I wonder what 1mm toe in is, when it is converted to minutes and degrees.
Around 0.08 minutes depending on tyre diameter.
@@stavrossimGDB can you please explain the math!?
@@081588101 Go to google and search trackace conversion chart pdf.This pdf has all that you need!Cheers
@@stavrossimGDB ok, thx
Dear Misha I really like to see all your videos which are professional and funny and want to visit you very soon 🏁🏁🏁🏆🏆🏆
More importantly though is the steering issue. I provided both you and Robert with links to the European Auto Group videos about the potentially catastrophic steering failure. I’m surprised you’ve ignored it completely.
Didn't ignore it. All good.
Misha Charoudin Whew! Thanks for letting me know Misha. I was worried for you guys. Don’t want you having an accident.
1/10 food vlog
10/10 safety information about Supra's
would recommend you dont publish your exact alignment though, and get MR/Raeder to do a kinematics setup like your BMW race car.
let's get some onboard of that Supra racing your GT2.. could make for some very entertaining video series of your top drivers taking on the Nurgburg Ring in some mighty cars.
1.5 toe in at the rear?
Good Morning!
Jackie ding needs to watch this
I am %99 sure Jackie had his alignment dialed in for the tracks. No way he would forget about that.
@@CSOCSO while I would agree with you for the front alignment.. I doubt he did the rear.. you could see in his videos prior to the crash and in speed academies videos the car looks very twitchy
Good comments right there.
Driver mod?
Hi Misha, is Nring closed to TF today? The calendar said it was open today and Sunday and the gates are closed.. Just came from NE Scotland lol
Rallye Köln-Ahrweiler today. TF only 14:30-16:30
@@nik3782 ah ok. Thanks mate👍
Good video
Good comment
Good reply
Good and original comments (not Martin!)
Good comment
Ich hab noch nie einen besseren Audi gefahren, als meinen von Raeder vemessenen damals. Einfach top
You're freaking awesome brother
Hi!!! More than power, suspension and tyres make your car safer and faster! By the way Misha the Castle vlog is going to be done in the 30th of February!!! LOL
Good afternoon Misha, hope your enjoying Sema
Maybe we, as a viewer, should forward this to every Supra owner out there for reference?
Has anyone taken a upgraded supra around the track yet?
Het komt vaker voor en bij meer automerken dat de fabrieks uitlijning niet klopt met wat ze zelf voorschrijven, bij een sportauto is dat best wel slordig.
Nice vid, missed them :)
.
Apex should buy a good amount of Enteiserspray (de-frost spray?).
Hello Misha, Hello Carmrades.
Veery interesting... and I can confirm that having a twitchy car, or driver, on the NS is not an option ^^. Not at all.
Castle VLOGGGG
Top video 👍
Good Day Misha!
Alignment is more like maintenance than a mod
It would be maintenance if it needed to be realigned due to wear, it's a mod when you have to change it due to safety.
@@EtherGaming604 But you do maintenance for safety, ex. putting correct amount of pressure in tyres isn't a "mod" when its important for track safety
@@S3v3n13tt3r5 Unfortunately your example is still a modification....
@@EtherGaming604 If the pressure is oem it is not
Gooooooood morning Misha.
The Supra is heavier than I imagined.
Ehm? It's lighter than a M2 CS!!! If I'm correct...😉
If the tank is full like the alignment sheet says, i really dont think this is that heavy for a modern car...sure i cannot say its a lightweight
I belive they are good, but this is too much for an alignment.
150-200€ for alignment!!!...also using strings not lazer! Geeeezzzzz must be the Nurburg tax!!!
If you don't mind my saying, this supra can evolve into a "baby" gt2 rs mr in the hands of raeder motorsport. Interesting project.
Dear Friends, I Have Your Question To Your Cayman What Color Is Red Or Orange Lava Orange?
Yocahi יוחאי בן דוד red:-)
That car needs a magnaflow exaust
Го с русскими субтитрами???
Not mishas fault but alittle to much supra content out there. The cars are everywhere
Still interesting.
Wonder why Toyota does this....
Anyone knows if the BMW has the same problem?
😅👍✌️
Because of 'very sporty feel'
Hi
Crazy cambers
Why do they put 0 degrees toe-in @Toyota, for better mileage? Lol. If you can afford a Supra, most probably you're not looking for tires that last 100000 kms :)
....aQAAAAckk.. enough Supra Supra Supra Supra Supra Supra Supra .. enough... lol.. Actually SEMA just closed and it was ALLL Supra ALL the TIME!!!!.... I hope this model lives up to all the hype... I am tired of looking at it already.... time to make little balls of melted rubber...
I thought this is about adding a BMW badge on the car, very disapointed. :(
Just Kidding! Nice Video and good information about the wheel alignment.
Nah, just put a tacky wide-body kit on it and call it good.
gg
I’m second 💪🏻
Still a good car to buy?