Genex - Failed Cards, Archetypes, and Sometimes Mechanics in Yu-Gi-Oh
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ต.ค. 2023
- So many archetypes have gotten excessive support, only to be nothing more than flat-out garbage. Ninjas, Red-Eyes, and Archfiends are some Yu-Gi-Oh archetypes that looked like they were going somewhere, only to end up on piles of bulk eventually. There was another archetype before them that would go through the same strife, and that was Genex. Genex was an archetype with a unique premise, backed up by some interesting cards involving 3 stages of Genex support: The original Genex, R-Genex, and finally, the head-scratching Genex Ally. So what caused their downfall and made them terrible? In today’s video, we’ll examine Genex and what made them another lackluster group of cards and mechanics.
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Congrats, you have just spoken Genex support into existence
The monkey paw finger curls
Konami said: “Yo this man is talking shit”
And it's quite good too, the only restriction is synchro monster must be summoned using genex monster as material...... Genex Dragon Trishula and Baronne is on the floor
@@hoshi314I don't think that much issues consider that Genex when they get going they kinda in loop. Link 1 add consistent make deck particular hard to brick in deck.
And then suddenly, all of that search power became infinite field presence with just a single card...
Thats why i usted Ultimate Offerings on My first genex deck i build
Came here after finding out that a Genex is getting a link monster. It's called Repaired Genex Controller.
I read that link monster and nearly screamed. Since nearly every R-Genex Monster has an effect to search on normal summon. This card effectively says “Go +8, you deserve it.”
Literally the only draw back is that there physically aren’t enough monster card zones for the sheer amount of searching you’re doing.
Also, THEY GAVE A HANDTRAP QUICK SYNCHRO TO A DECK WITH A WALKING PERMANENT CHANGE OF HEART?!
I mean yeah, you do deserve to go +8. You're playing Genex
The Deck looks really cool...that, and it is a Duel Terminal Deck 😂
...To think, that Rata almost had to hotglue an ultra rare Blue-Eyes because of Genex.
And it would’ve happened too were it not for the 100 LP gain from the Destruct Potion on that black salvo that kept the Meklords alive.
@@voltingmaster5458tbf, there should have been a second Bo3 since Genex was in the winners bracket and Meklords were in the losers bracket.
Technically he should have still done it. He said that he would if Genex won anything. Genex won almost everything.
It's crazy funny to me that Konami actually gave Genex new support in 2023 just 3 days after this video had came out.
and even that support was lackluster. Genex spells would have made that much more of a difference. Only course for them now is unexpected dai and double summon.
Missed the timing! Genex JUST got new support announced for them in the Terminal World pack and it is absolutely wild!
Holy shit link 1 that normal summon on add and synchro accesscode but negate and destroy instead of just destroy. This shit is dope af
The Ninja strayshot is wild
Bruh
I mean, there's a lot of useless ninja cards, the one difference is that the archetype had a small place within some rogue decks and the package would be different depending on the times
Hanzo, upstart, ninja art of transformation was probably the one that saw play the longest but there's also the super transformation one, that used the dragon ninjas saw a lot of rogue play
Ninjas on their own only saw some play after the pends were out and even then it kinda felt worse than when you played a ninja core
All in all ninjas are kinda like red eyes, they never really got down to a unified style, the ninja arts are the only thing that identifies their play style through most of the eras but it is better than red eyes in the sense that you could at least splash it, even if you where playing only 3 different cards out of 6 different cards that were worth playing out of the 200k different cards that composed the ninja support
@@matiaspereyra9392 the thing about ninjas, at least, they have a decently effective game plan that let's them be at least rogue tier.
I would say "aged like milk", but milk lasts more than 3 days after being opened.
So this aged worse than milk, but in the best possible way because I like Genex.
Ah, Genex. They reached their peak during the War of the Worthless, but in the end they were unable to claim their destiny...
I love how that one duelist managed to make it the most viable looking archetype on the roster while also fun to watch unfold, alas their loss is something outside their control, such is the course of YGO nature...
@@raydhen8840 Wisel too big
İ still wonder if he would have actually hot glued that blue eyes if genex won.
About that... 😂😅
For many of us, Genex will be remembered as the archetype that got 2nd place in War of the Worthless because some mad lad decided to take Rata’s suggestion that they were the worst archetype in the game seriously and built just about the most competent deck in the tournament using them 😂
Genex Recycled copying Blastfan then using Machine Duplication to go into Trishula and add 2 cards from deck to hand is such a legendary move - I would honestly love to see Genex get an archetypal card that searches Machine Duplication and potentially sets up Recycled.
(Extrapolating on that thought, something like the following as a conceptual Continuous Spell:
Genex Mass Production
When this card is activated you can send 1 "Genex" monster from your hand or deck to the grave. If this card in your possession is sent to the grave by an opponent's card effect you can add 1 "Genex" non-Tuner monster from your deck or grave to your hand. You can only use 1 of the following effects of "Genex Mass Production" per turn and only once that turn:
>Reveal 1 "Genex" Tuner monster from your hand or field, add 1 "Machine Duplication" from your deck or grave to your hand.
>Reveal 1 "Machine Duplication" from your hand or field, add 1 "Genex" Tuner monster from your deck or grave to your hand.
Probably simultaneously over-tuned and under-tuned, but that just sounds like retroactive archetypal support in Yu-Gi-Oh generally.)
Would've won too if it didnt go against its literal worst matchup in the entire tourney in the last round. That being the anti synchro deck Meklords.
I just wanna say the Nordic player did a tremendous job though too. Dude came so close to winning it all too, but like Genex it had to go up against Mekklords too.
My idea for that was an archetypal Trishula on drugs (Aldo banishes 1 card from top of deck and extra deck, and you get to see the hand and extra deck to choose them, and if the Genex tuner is the original vanilla, you banish up to 3 instead from each place. If sent from field to GY by any means, free Machine Dup from deck or GY)
Genex feels like an anime protagonist's archetype: gimmicky, centered around a mediocre vanilla, has a an extra deck monster of each attribute, gets an upgrade/evolution for the archetypal monsters each season and it has seemingly random, unrelated cards thrown in the deck for no apparent reason.
Yet it IS NOT a deck from 5Ds, but hidden arsenal like Ally of Justice, Ice Barrier, X-Saber and Flamvell. 3.5 of those archetypes are worthless.
This video :*exist
Konami : I took that personally
And then, as if Logs was kind of a future teller, Konami releases Genex support.
Please the next video be of Flamvell.
Do Ursarctic next.
And you know the archetype is bad when the boss monster that gets its own animation is Locomotion R-Genex, a random nobody card.
The only real *Dark Synchro* archetype
definitely pointless, but still a thing. Ironic that they are NOT Dark-Attr
@@CB-L Yeah.
I swear, all that Genex needs is some broken payoff or busted support.
Hey, back in 2012, Birdman + Caius into Locomotion was a real thing you saw every once in a blue moon lol
Bearcti is decent with the new support at least.
Ursartic are meta in Duel Links
I love the duellogs curse
Makes a video that trashtalks an archetype, same archetype gets support within a week (3 days in this case) xD.
Well, time to see what duellogs will say after seeing the new support
Happened with Rata too 😅
@@Hanmacx Columns still are a stupid mechanic, that stupid mechanic just matters more now.
The timing of this video is insane lol. Almost as if you spoke new Genex support into existence
It's kinda funny how this comes out right before Konami announced new supports for Genex lol.
Is TheDuelLogs turning into Rata?
I am surprised of how badly a video can age in just 6 days.
Also, is anyone else excited to see Rank10s support report on genex?😂😂
Poor Genex...
Meanwhile... archetypes nowdays...
- If you control 3+ monsters with different names, draw 2 aditional cards during your draw phase.
- Return to your deck 3 quick spells from your graveyard, draw 3
- If you opponent breaths, banish them and lock all their zones
its why ive been playing legacy formats , lol..
Modern yugioh feels like "lose turn 1" simulator.
better hope that extra card u drew as player 2 is enough to get through 72937 negates
Yeah, how dare the opponent breath in my general direction! The audacity!
Yes,poor genex
But,without genex,maybe lore archetype won't be as good as nowadays
Truly unsung hero that no one apreciate
Whats the first one? Fur hire? Extea link knightmare?
Yeah poor thing
anyways now they are spitting out synchros way too quickly off a single genex monster in hand
Rata's arch-nemesis
I like how, aesthetically, all the Genex monsters are vaguley similar looking robots with different motifs or jobs.
They remind me of the Robot Masters from Megaman
This is what pains me, I love their art but their effects are whack 😢
The big thing with Genex was that a lot of the card's effects were based on other archetypes, and they were semi designed to work in tandem with the other DT ones they were coming out with.
That and LOOOOOOOORE
I find it hilarious that the best use of Genex was as a Trishula engine more so than anything to do with with Genex synchros. And all because of a weird wording loophole involving Machine Duplication, which allowed any Genex monster whose name got copied by Genex Spare to be mass summoned because it's based on the stats of the card present, not the ones about to be summoned (so have Spare copy any lvl4 Genex monster's name to special summon 2 of said monsters and then synchro into Trishula). For context, Locomotion R Genex can be summoned this way but no one would choose that over freaking Trishula.
The madlad summon the train 😂
This video did not aged well after only 3 days........
Does he know
To be fair, duel terminal support already been announce since last month
@@hafizhaditya2896lol, he probably should have waited before making this vid.
Also remembered how close it got to making Rata hotglue and eat a Blue-Eyes.
3 days before Genex got new support in the new duel terminal packs coming out.
Oof
I like how after this video, they released a genex link1
Legacy of the Worthless Genex is the best video on TH-cam.
YES YOU FOOL, THE GENEX SUPPORT WAS INNEVITABLE
It took 3 days for Konami to try to prove him wrong
Genex feels like one of those archetypes that a character from newer seasons of the anime uses and makes look cool (as long as you don't notice they have won like 3 duels in the whole series)
Please do "Charmers - Failed Cards, Archetypes, and Sometimes Mechanics". I want that archetype to actually be usable.
Also doubles as failed mechanic, since Charmers have the super majority of monsters that summon *themselves* from the main deck.
He talked about that in the Metalmorph video
@@17-MASY Oh. Well he still should do a Charmer video since their structure deck worded the Spiritual Art support in a way that that allowed for new Spiritual Arts.
I feel bad for Genex...
Many Archetypes from the past were also considered 'Bad' or 'Unplayable', but they still got some Decent Support after some time, like the 'Ice Barriers' or 'T.G.s', hopefully someday they get the same treatment.
They need spells and searcher man, like what was Konami thinking?
Yes and Ally of Justice will be a top tier deck, Konami abandoned those card since Genex had good ideas but were mismanaged beyond salvage heck Ice Barriers were more playable then Genex, at least Wet Lands Beat down was fun for Ice Barriers and the Synchros were and still some of the most powerful cards in YuGiOh history even with the prevalence of other cards Thrish is still a card to be feared in any Synchro Deck.
I thought some T.G. Cards had some tops a couple years ago
There is no few set of cards that can salvage Allies of Justice. The only way to do it would be going the vampire route and doing a full archetypal remake giving them an entirely new gimmick
Genex will always be my favorite Archetypes of all time Good or bad. We are In a Hiden Arsenal Renaissance so Hopefully this Archetype gets some well deserved support. Ice Barriers are finally Playable, Genex can do the same.
Its still crazy how every single Duel Terminal archetype, no matter how bad it was, still had at least 2 cards from their deck playable. Even Genex had Undine, Birdman and to a lesser extent, Duradark and Neutron.
that is mostly the first arc of Duel terminal: 90% percent awful cards, 2 or 3 busted cards. It is curious that genex and ally of justice were mostly the main decks ones the OP instead of extra deck like ice barrier or naturia
When are we getting a Mr Logs and Rata crossover?
Top 10 archetype archives when?
War of the Worthless's runner up and the Archetype to have the weirdest uses in meta contention, just like its brother, Ally of Justice
Welp........ 3 day laters they announced some new genex support and funny enough, they havent announced a spell/trap card for them lol
I always felt Genex was ment to be a support archetypes for other decks and not a deck unto themselves. Mostly because of the whole lore behind the cards from Duelist Terminal.
Similar to Guardragons imo
That might have actually worked if their tuner wasn't utter trash, or their effects actually did *anything* to turbo out their single tuner, since Tuner options were so limited in early Synchro format even Flamvell Magician saw play. Even a passable synchro with generic materials, like Ally of Justice got, would have worked better.
Of course, they couldn't do that because Synchron *already* took the theme of machine monsters that turboed out synchro monsters, and that actually produced a decent number of useful support cards (even if they were never really great as a pure archetype).
Well shit , What unfortunate timing. Still wish they could get a spellcard or two cause unless you are superheavy samurai there is no reason not to.
Crazy how new Genex Support was unveiled 3 days after this video was released!
This aged soooooooo bad, who could have guessed that four days later genex support of all things would have been released and for it to also be good
3 days later, konami announces genex support
Lmao they literally just released new support for Genex. I'd like to see a follow up video for it
Wow! What a weird archetype that existed in that specific era. Kinda wish they got Support ngl. Like an Ultimate Offering on Legs.
They did! Their new Link supports the R-Genex Crusher loop
Did you post this before or after looking at the news?
@@CrnaStrela After.
I was attempting to do this thing called "Comedy"
4 days later, new genex support were annaunced
What a timing for this video man
Please DuelLogs talk about dream mirror in the next video so we get new support 🙏
The more I watch these the more I’m convinced that the people making the cards barely play the meta of their game.
Rrad the MtG article about player types. And remember that some cards are bad on purpose because packs need some filler. .
The purpose is there, it is just not tournament play.
This and different cards appeal to different players. Like alt win cons and big stupid boss monsters like VWXYZ Armed Dragon Catapult Cannon.
Despite being underwhelming, they are my second favorite archetype. The trick is to not run so many of the bad Genex cards and you can make a casual coherent list. Blastfan is a Stratos, as long as you got the Summoner Monk or Summon Storm for it. Divine Wind strats are still great. Hoping to see new support in the Duel Terminal support releasing around the corner. ❤
In my early years in Duel Link I actually used a few of these guys because the synchro and tuner pools were small.
Crystron Genex combos was nightmares
ah genex, a series of cards I mostly know from their appearance in the 5d's ds games as one of the few archetypes available early on. they look super tempting up until you actually start a duel with them only to realise you're functionally stuck playing on half speed and none of the monsters you can keep on the field can stand up to the sheer unbridled power of gene-warped warwolf.
so then you give up and resign yourself to beating the story with a warrior tribal deck and ally of justice catastor. like every other chump.
*Kicks open the nonexistent door* Genex just got new support cards!
Small reminder for folks:
There are no Genex Spell/Traps.
Same with Ally of Justice.
Does that mean we could get AoJ SHS Genex pile (a.k.a. bad machine monster mash)
that would go a long way in fixing their problems
That's actually baffling: how? Like, even from gameplay perspective locking out archetype from two pillars of your games mechanic is totally a thing that would make it worse and the fact they tried to fix them, but never game them any support there is oversight of century.
konami took this video very personally
For a deck that seems to want to use attributes as it's primary gimmick, I can't believe they didn't at least give a field spell that let's you change attributes on the field.
I don't think this would make the deck meta, but at least you could have fun while playing it.
If I told you what I think of genex 1. Birdman is great, and 2. TRAIN
well, its a good thing something won't come to "Restore" Genex Controller to its much needed glory 3 days after this video dropped right? Right?
To it's glory? Like it's ever viable before?
@@Kiasis It's a pun on the Link's name.
@@RR3DSceptyr ...gosh I feel stupid to not get it, such an obvious one 💀
What Genex needs is a field spell card that would give you an additional normal summon if you normal summoned a Genex monster and allow you to special summon one for free and allow you to change the attributes of all of your Genex monsters on your field and in your graveyard.
Hahahaha the support they got literally combined the first 2 effects into the link 1 and the last effect somewhat into new undine
Well.......new support for this archetype announced.
Fast forward to october 13th 2023 we get new genex support willed into existence. Wish i had your infinity stones, could do with some fortune lady and gravekeeper support
Genex are so, so, so much broken(not in a good way) that they're beyond repair-
...While having 2 extra sub-categories and an once-limited monster.
I can't even imagine them being chosen for, something like next Terminal World pack.
Konami saw your comment, went "oh we're gonna show them" and then dropped 2 of the most insane supports seen
@@themerchant9711 Okay that Repaired Spare Genex was terrifying lol
And today the announced supports for genex😂
Genex Just had new support revealed
a new synchro 10, a link 1 and 2 new main deck effect monsters.
Amazing how they screwed it up when they had a non once per turn burn effect in the form of Genex Solar.
With so much Machine support nowadays, one would've figured a Solar FTK should have caused Konami problems.
YO IS THAT A RANK10YGO REFERENCE?! I so badly want this deck to get support. I know it's unlikely because it's a generic synchro pile that weirdly exist for draft like formats, but still, I believe in the Genex cause!
Genex’s support would be like Watt where it’s super bloated and try to solve all the decks issues in 4 cards
Acting as if I'll have a problem with that
it needs (at least) a field spell for swarming, a better cynet codec, and synchros worth going into
Can you make one about ally of justice now, so they can get some busted support too?
Genex will always be my favorite Archetypes of all time Good or bad. We are In a Hiden Arsenal Renaissance so Hopefully this Archetype gets some well deserved support. Ice Barriers are finally Playable, Genex can do the same.
Hopefully you continue the rest of the Hidden Arsenal decks.
Edit: Genex just got Support from the New Duel Terminal World and it's damn good!!
Genex will always have a special place in my heart
Their theme and multi attribute synchros will always be cool to me. Like junk synchrons younger brother who tries to be cool but fails most of the steps away 🥺
I second doing Ursarctic next. That archetype is so horrible that a card giving +6 in card advantage isn't even worth playing for. That's so insane.
The deck is like, aight in TCG due to their recent support (though of course not viable), and is currently a meta deck in Duel Links
How is it possible that a couple of days after this video gen x support was revealed in the newest box😂
and suddenly genex became PROBABLY tier 1, but at least a tier 2 deck guaranteed
Genex support update today new card synchro name A.O.G and new main monters deck and new link 1 monters
I wonder if Konami did it on purpose.
The Genex effect monsters just add cards from the deck to the hand but with no reason, with no sense, with no flavor. 😬
it goes well with R-Accelerator except Kite for some reason.
@@kappadarwin9476 I'd guess accelerator misses timing, it's an optional when effect
Bro just missed Timing 😂
whose here after the new support
Damn bro just willed genex support into reality
From what I noticed from the Video, most of the Genex monsters (At least the First ones), had some Decent Effects that just weren't properly used due to the fact that they would mostly require your Normal summon, more ways to Special summon could be good, but what if they had more ways to Normal summon as well?
Maybe if they had a card with an effect like 'You can Normal Summon 1 'Genex' monster in addition to your Normal Summon' or something, maybe a Field/Continuous Spell, that could make it the first one of the Archetype, maybe with another card that could search it? I feel like that could help.
The first wave was something , but their entire gameplay shifted with the Genex Ally . They went from doing stuff to Attribute manipulation .
@@Azrayel488
Yeah the Attribute manipulation powers of some of these Genex Ally monsters were so underwhelming! It’s no Wonder why out of the Whole Sub-Archetype! Only 4 cards stood out and only 1 Synchro was even worth playing!
Genex Ally Axel and Birdman (mainly Birdman) are really the best Monsters out of the Entire series, as Axel is a Synchro that has Decent attack stats, can summon and also boost Attack Scores for the Cards he summons! While Birdman is a lesson in Synergistic Card design that Works!
He not only summons himself, but he both boosts his own attack, and changes his own attribute! But overall he just sends a monster back to the hand because he’s ment to reflect the “Mist Valley” clan!
It’s no wonder why this card by itself lasted so long! It just makes so much sense, it hurts!
Which tells me that NONE Of the Other Cards Ever Did this!
Duradark was a great anti-Dark tool!
But none of the others Changed their Type or Attribute in ways that would work with Flamvells, XX Sabers, Ice Barriers, or even their namesake AOJs (Ally of Justice)!
Nor did these cards Give benefits or Drawbacks for “Light” Based decks! I mean what even is the point of these cards if their Don’t trigger off of Attributes that you or your opponent have?!
Honestly, If they had spell and combo starter to summon more of Genex, it would make them way better and I can see the fire ones being decent burn deck option.
This video did NOT age well !
I think Genex could be fixed by adding a field spell which allows one additional normal summon of a Genex monster, a continuous spell to add a Genex monster to the hand whenever a Genex monster is summoned and a continuous trap which gives you life points equal to the Genex monsters used for a synchro summon and return one of the materials to the hand.
A lot of these old abandoned archetypes could be blanket fixed by just giving each one a non-interactable field spell that is guaranteed to go off whenever and gives the archetype all the modern functions they need to at least be rogue, with extremely strict restrictions against generic usage. That 1 card could then be retrained every time power creep gets far enough. Not sure if anyone who doesn't play those archetypes would appreciate that becoming the standard though.
it's a dire situation that I can say that I'm not sure a better cynet codec would be good enough lmao
also they needed a card to change attribute freely as continuous spell/trap or field spell
for the normal summon, maybe they can get something like " Ultimate Offering" exclusively for Genex
I’m saddened by the poor quality of genex cards, they have such cool looking art, i have some of the synchros in secret rare and they look amazing
I think Rata calling them the worst archetype ever (or at the very least the worst Duel Terminal archetype) is warranted
no lmfao, look at their war of the worthless performance
how coincidence that they got the support right after this video
Came here after new Genex support, thank you man for raising awareness or something, I'm sure you did this in some way
Locomotion Genex is a fav of mine and has actually pulled me out of a loss on the very rare occasions I brought it out, but yes, it's costly, but I wouldn't say it's awful. A Friend of mine suggested to me that because Locomotion Genex is my fav monster that I should build a Genex deck, and just now, basically sent him this video.
"Probably being used in masterduel by like 5 players" 😂😂😂I fucking died
Maybe do Dream Mirror next.
Its really sad as that archetype has a really interesting theme, but the way it has to rely on two bad field spells to do anything really hampers it. Not helped by the fact that the effects of its various member, while good, are not good enough for the amount of effort you have to go through to use them.
AGED HORRIBLYYYYY
love the archetypes videos
What did you DO
The last Genex Ally wave actually would make for a decent srategy game with them as units.^^
OH NO! This video aged too badly too quickly!
Lmao perfect timing, that or Konami just f-ing heard you mate and said “bet”
Oi, ninjas got their act together, you take that back.
This aged poorly and it was made a week ago. Darn xD
konami has officially trolled you once again
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DT 1-2 archetype are wild, they make these archetype that relies on other of their member to gain their effect, without any ability for them to swarm the field
Ally of Justice atleast you can bandaid a DNA Transplant and get some stuff going with it. Genex's majority of its cards are unusable given that completely changes playstyle from one support wave to another.
Oops this video didn’t age well 😅 the new support seems good btw